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L P
01-26-2008, 21:56
.......I will be seeking Political Asylum in a foreign country.

Much like the draft dodgers of years past I may have to make a run for Canada if she takes office. Can anyone recommend other friendly countries that would take me in? I didn't want to limit myself to Canada but so far it's at the top of my list.

I speak a little German and Spanish. I can also understand most insults spoken in Tagalog. My only request is that I be allowed to bring my favorite spatula with me.

k959
01-26-2008, 22:32
sell everything u have and go to mexico u can get about 10x the amound of stuff down thier

Crimson Shadow
01-27-2008, 09:58
She already ran the Presidency once when Bill was President....might as well do it again.

Really..its between her and Obama for the Democratic nomination and I would much rather have her win than him.

Guy77
01-27-2008, 12:37
The way the economy has been i'm pretty sure a democrat is going to win in the next election, so your exactly right, we are down to obama, and clinton

And i don't like either of them :( so i'm screwed

BB
01-27-2008, 12:41
fuel prices were alot lower when clinton was in office before. She basically rant hings when her hubby was in office. you really thing **** nose could run things lol

but I do believe it will be a toss between obama and her. Either way it goes it will mark a first..

Missionary
01-27-2008, 18:40
fuel prices were alot lower when clinton was in office before. She basically rant hings when her hubby was in office. you really thing **** nose could run things lol

but I do believe it will be a toss between obama and her. Either way it goes it will mark a first..

will be alot higher when the arab countries decided to sell there oil in euro's instead of dollars haha.

L P
01-27-2008, 19:31
The way the economy has been i'm pretty sure a democrat is going to win in the next election, so your exactly right, we are down to Obama, and Clinton

And i don't like either of them :( so i'm screwed

Perhaps you should join me in seeking political asylum?

Seriously, Hillary is EVIL! I feel sad for those that can't see that. If she fools enough people to get elected we could be looking at the apocalypse. Mexico would need to build a fence to keep all the Americans out.

I can deal with any of the other idiots just not her.

ooga booga
01-27-2008, 21:19
Perhaps you should join me in seeking political asylum?

Seriously, Hillary is EVIL! I feel sad for those that can't see that. If she fools enough people to get elected we could be looking at the apocalypse. Mexico would need to build a fence to keep all the Americans out.

I can deal with any of the other idiots just not her.

I'm with you all the way on this one, lol. I can't stand Hillary. The Devil right there. Canada would be at the top of my list too. As for the economy I think it's right where it should be, and the last thing democrats are good for is economics. My university is very liberal but even all my economic professors can't stand democrats... mostly because they kill the economy. :p

Tnova
01-28-2008, 01:02
The real danger is not so much if Hillary gets elected. If any democrat is elected for the presidency they can really push their big government agenda with a Democrat friendly house and senate.

If a democrat is elected president you will lose some of the checks and balances that come along when you have different parties controlling the executive and legislative branches. When you got two parties with a respectable amount of power they keep each other in check, and even though i generally don't agree with the democratic ideas, i do know they are an important part of our political success.

L P
01-28-2008, 01:57
Yes, thats all true but the point is Hillary may appear human but she is in fact not human.

We need to find evidence to prove that she is a space alien and/or a demon of some sorts. If I could prove she has no soul that might take her down in the polls a few percentage points. Personally I believe the rise of Hillary is a precursor to an alien invasion or perhaps a sign of the apocalypse.

ranger2112
01-28-2008, 10:18
i agree with LP. Hillary is a scary choice for the white house.

Guy77
01-28-2008, 10:21
as much as i would love to see a republican president, i think we need a democratic one just for the simple fact that they will ( hopefully) get our econemy back into some order, we went from the biggest suprlus of money, to the biggest deficit, however i don't know if hillary or obama are the right ones for the job :(

L P
01-28-2008, 12:48
This is the worst group of candidates I've seen in a long time.

ooga booga
01-28-2008, 14:14
as much as i would love to see a republican president, i think we need a democratic one just for the simple fact that they will ( hopefully) get our econemy back into some order, we went from the biggest suprlus of money, to the biggest deficit, however i don't know if hillary or obama are the right ones for the job :(

What did I tell you about democrats and the economy? :P Democrats = crappy economy in the long run. You think Clinton was so great... it was a fluke in the economy where the stock market should have never been that high at that time in the first place. The economy right now isn't bad. Unemployment rate is still fairly decent, lol. My dad is a Financial Planner and works with the market constantly, and I talk to a lot of his colleagues and the media makes it out to be a lot worse than it really is. Which isn't surprising since the media is all liberal. :glare:

Dogma
01-30-2008, 01:49
The economy of the 90's was not the presidents doing anyway, except for the relieving some of the accounting laws, which is the reason for Enron, tyco and the other major players that went belly up. Most opf that economy was built on the .com boom of the 90's. A lot of money was made very fast and when the market flooded, it tanked with only the big boys left in the mix. It wouldn't have mattered if Mickey Mouse was in office at the time, it would have happened anyway. But, the Hildebest must not win.

@LP, I think they would allow your spatula in Borneo. I hear thier Spatula tolerance is very "liberal" :P

L P
01-30-2008, 02:45
@LP, I think they would allow your spatula in Borneo. I hear thier Spatula tolerance is very "liberal" :P

Borneo, eh? I'll look up their embassy and see if they have an opening for a refugee like myself.

Thanks for the tip!

Guy77
01-31-2008, 10:25
right now if we don't fix the short term there won't be a long term lol

wether or not the president was responsible for the econemy, he definitly didn't hurt it, i didn't agree w/ the military cuts clinton made, and when bush mobilized he pretty much just screwed us over by spending all our moneyz lol

is really the only problem that USA as a whole has

as for personal econemy your right oogs, unemployment is low, but alot more people have minimum wage jobs and are lower-middle class, which is the worst LOL that is what i am, and while going to school everything is good cause the government pays for everything, but i see alot of families in my neighborhood struggle, just an observation though

Mwahahahaha
02-08-2008, 22:41
Whatever you choose, it's not going to make much of matter anyway. Greenspan with his low interest rates has made sure that the economy is ****ed anyway. He can throw as many speeches as he wants, but no central bank has ever left situation in a worse situation than he has ever.

The simple conclusion is that american consumers has spent more than they'll ever be able to pay back thanks to among other things the housing bubble which is a direct consequences of the liquidity boom caused by greenspan's low interest rates.

You can blame that on the democrats or republicans all you want, but things are going to run it's course anyway. They don't run the economy, the central bank does. Bernanke does his best with what's been thrown at him, bit he doesn't have much of a choice. and he's trying to do it's best even tough he's got little choice except playing the part as a dog. Greenspan has ****ed it for him, and is cheeky enough to make statements about it trying to be a smart ***.

L P
02-10-2008, 18:25
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/ArtAndPhoto-Fronts/COVER/080210/g-080210-cvr-clinton-doyle-1p.grid-4x2.jpg

Enough Said!

L P
02-10-2008, 19:55
How can anyone vote for this?
http://65.214.37.88/ts?t=15705035950631586225

Crimson Shadow
02-10-2008, 20:45
rofl those get rep

L P
02-10-2008, 22:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHTjbdZqi84&eurl=http://newsbusters.org/

L P
02-17-2008, 17:20
http://www.charmaineyoest.com/2006/01/hillary_gets_the_crossed_finge.php


Honestly speaking, Hillary would screw up the military worse than Bill did. Just another reason I will not be re-enlisting if she get elected. 15 years down the toilet. In an effort to avoid the chaos I will be seeking refuge just as "Draft Dodgers" do.

I guess in this case I will be avoiding the proliferation of inadequate funding for equipment, ships, aircraft, cleaning supplies and training..:P Our military would be in such a disarray that Trinidad and Tobago could invade us and win.

You can call me a Conscientious Objector in the sense that my beliefs prevent me from serving under Hillary.

Mr President
02-17-2008, 17:31
I really don't think Hillary is going to win. I think you will see McCain and Barack square off, and i think you will see Barack take it..

I'm am very pleased with how active everyone in the US is with this election. Young people are really getting involved and it's showing that they can make a difference.

Now all we need to do is get them paying attention to who they elect into congress. Perhaps then the govt will not have as much control over our everyday lives... And if we are lucky we can remind the Govt that they work
FOR the people!

ooga booga
02-17-2008, 18:13
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L P
02-17-2008, 18:14
I agree. Its so easy for us to complain about the idiots in our government but we often forget who the idiots were that elected them.

Sadly, I am beginning to think the majority of voters are mindless sheep. Some are starting to come around though.

Hillary will get the nomination because she will manipulate the "Super Delegates" even though Obama has the lead.

I heard an analysis the other day that showed Obama was getting votes from educated people, wealthy, blacks and white males. Hillary was leading with the category of uneducated, women and old people. So basically she will be elected by voters too stupid to know any better.

Calvin74
02-17-2008, 23:47
mr pres i gotta disagree
i think it comes down to obama and mccain but i think mccain wins since he is BY FAR the more moderate and will draw the middle crowd. hillary is so left she scares me(granted i am conservative) but obama is even farther left.

personally i think we should all write in bob dole. he would sleep through all 4 years so he can't really do anything bad for us

L P
02-18-2008, 00:15
Indeed, Bob Dole might have been president had he done the Viagra commercials before he ran. Hell, I'd even vote for Elizabeth.

McCain is the best candidate but I am scared he won't be elected for the wrong reasons. Many would say that Obama would win because he would steal the moderates and independents that normally would support McCain. McCain also appears to have put many of the far right on the bench for this election.

Hillary will scam her way into the nomination. Then its just a matter of the republicans exposing her for what she is. If there isn't enough Anti-Hillary votes for McCain then she wins. In other words, some people would only vote for McCain to stop Hillary. If Obama somehow got the nomination then its a close fight just as the last two elections were.

(I think the plan is for Hillary to select Bill as VP and then resign the day after she gets elected so that Bill can be president again.):P

k959
02-19-2008, 01:20
i wouldnt mind bill being back in offices at least he had us on the way out of debt even tho it was mostly our econimy doing it he did have some infulence in it

L P
02-19-2008, 19:15
Hillary Clinton’s campaign intends to lure pledged delegates from Barack Obama if she feels she needs them to win the nomination come convention time in August, The Politico reported Tuesday.


This is what I am talking about. She will do what ever it takes to be president. Someone that hellbent on doing that is dangerous.

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/19/report-clinton-aiming-to-draw-pledged-delegates-from-obama/

Mwahahahaha
03-07-2008, 22:46
Regarding the economy, it doesn't mean much who get's to be the president. The US economy (and hence the world) is in a screwed up face where you'll either be facing a recession, or a period of intolerable inflation. If Bernanke doesn't get it right, you'll be suffering both. The central bank is what matters, and it will nullify any decision made by any president on the economy as a whole. The current stance is low interest rates hoping to increase investments and the resulting weak dollar which will boost the exporters. It's a temporary strategy which could work. If it doesn't, you'd be in a situation where the US will be losing it's economic hegemony over the world, while the low cost asian producers and the oil producing countries will be sitting with the profits and the power. USA used to be able to handle the trade deficits until recently, since the US foreign investments yielded a higher return than the investments made by foreigners in the US. This has tipped over on the other side, and you get regular news these days about Arabs and Asian governments taking sizeable portions of the US banks. Considering US debts are in US dollars, this is not a concern in the short run, but if the situation continues where the US continues to consume more than it produces as the situation is today, it will have drastic effects on the US economy as a whole. A scary situation which will have grave consequences on the world economy as a whole, and all countries wants to avoid this.

I doubt any administration is skilled enough in the matter of economics to make a difference on the current situation, nor on the situation in a normal situation. In theory, they could, but in practice they won't. It's just incompatible with how the political system works in any country. They simply have too many voters and lobbyist to think about even if they knew what the right thing to do was.

The real question as far as the presidential election is concerned is what you want to do with the budget money and who do you want to take it from.

L P
03-08-2008, 00:18
I've been looking into the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands. They are independent, most speak English and I wouldn't have to worry about changing my citizenship.

Nice weather as well.

Will
04-04-2008, 17:21
Personally I hope Obama takes both the nomination and the Presidency. The US needs a major shift to the left.

Blackwater
04-08-2008, 17:54
Personally I hope Obama takes both the nomination and the Presidency. The US needs a major shift to the left.

I'm sorry but I must disagree. Obama is quite talented when it comes to speeches but the man is just talk. He has no experience and hasn't really said what he would do in office, all he says is change. My opinion is that Mccain would be the best for the job. He is the most moderate of the choices and knows when to stick to his guns and when to compromise. It will be interesting to see what happens. The longer the Democrats fight the better for Mccain. Obama and Clinton are hurting their parties chances at the presidential election. :rolleyes:

L P
04-08-2008, 18:06
The more I see of these Democrats the more I feel they are taking advantage of poor/under-educated people. They work off of emotion and manipulation rather than ability and genuine desire to serve.

Crimson Shadow
04-08-2008, 19:36
Finally someone sees the truth!

L P
04-08-2008, 22:22
My issue with him is that he hasn't really made two important points:

1. How he would do that.
2. He is capable of doing that.


The guy is all smoke and mirrors as far as I can tell. Those sword arms come from HGH.

Crimson Shadow
04-08-2008, 23:05
Here is my opinion on Obama


I don't like Obama simply because when he was in the IL senate, he did NOT vote on 189 different issues, because he didn't want to affect his political status. 189 times!!!!!!!!!!

I could see if it happened once or twice but if you are that big of a puss not to vote 189 times so your status isn't hurt then I don't think you are the right person for the presidential office.

L P
04-08-2008, 23:52
I can't make it out. Looks like Richard Nixon with a long nose.

Blackwater
04-09-2008, 01:54
And the point of that picture is?

Firestorm7
04-09-2008, 18:44
..... All I will say is that we need to keep the Clintons out of the White House.... Under Bill, 1/3rd of the U.S.'s active military was on one form or shape of welfare.... And for any candidate that thinks pulling troops out of Iraq will help us any then I want to know what they are smoking!!!! Terrorist are not going to look at each other and say job well done and go home... no, it will be even more killings until they have their own ways there..... Besides I think Hillary is still trying to dodge those Bosnia snipers lol lol lol lol lol lol lol .......

Will
04-09-2008, 23:20
..... All I will say is that we need to keep the Clintons out of the White House.... Under Bill, 1/3rd of the U.S.'s active military was on one form or shape of welfare.... And for any candidate that thinks pulling troops out of Iraq will help us any then I want to know what they are smoking!!!! Terrorist are not going to look at each other and say job well done and go home... no, it will be even more killings until they have their own ways there..... Besides I think Hillary is still trying to dodge those Bosnia snipers lol lol lol lol lol lol lol .......

Iraq is the biggest recruiting ground Al-Qaeda has right now. The US will still be there 50 years from now unless it wants the Iraqi govt to collapse.

Xavior
04-09-2008, 23:41
The US cannot get out of Iraq without Iraq collapsing into chaos. Both Obama and Clinton say they will withdraw within how many weeks, but i doubt this will happen if either of them win. They will just make an excuse saying oh, the situation has changed, etc, etc.

The US made a decision to invade Iraq. At that moment, they decided they would stay for years and years to come. I do not see how people could have been and are still so short sighted. Lets go in, kill Sadam, install a puppet leader and move out again?

Look at where they are now: Stay in Iraq, resentment will continue to build against US in Iraq and other Arab countries, seeing them as occupiers of a Muslim country. Leave Iraq, and Iraq will be engulfed in Civil War, and who knows who will come out of it? Another Sadam?

Zeonic
04-10-2008, 00:22
Because we entered the war without a plan to get out. It was thanks to Powell that, in Desert Storm, we didn't pursue the ousting of Hussein and the destabilization of the region. He knew to stick to the plan. To do otherwise would be to get ourselves in a situation incredibly hard to get out of. Cheney even commented on that in 1992,

I would guess if we had gone in there, I would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.

And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties, and while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war. And the question in my mind is, how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is, not that ****ed many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the President made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq.

Of course, Powell went out with the second Bush and no one was around to question the group when they suggested invading Iraq. Just surrounded by yes-men. We enter Iraq with no plan on exiting and what happens? The region gets destabilized, a new government gets put in by the U.S., the U.S. remains because the government is barely even being held together.


In any case, I don't like most of the candidates. Clinton I just don't like and she relies on Bill too much. Obama is inexperienced and plays the race card too much. McCain wasn't too bad, but he seems to be swaying too much from his "Maverick" status, which is the only reason I liked him in the first place (he did what he wanted to do, not what others told him he should do).

L P
05-02-2008, 00:42
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/ArtAndPhoto-Fronts/COVER/080210/g-080210-cvr-clinton-doyle-1p.grid-4x2.jpg

Enough Said!

I just saw a tabloid article that said these two where having a lesbian relationship.

Cape
05-02-2008, 11:42
Getting out of Iraq is the best thing the US can do. It was an artificially created nation, by the imperial European powers, that didn't take into account the diverse populations of the region. Hundreds of thousands of US troops aren't doing anything except holding back the inevitable. This area has hundreds of years of ethnic conflict and you aren't going to solve it by rushing in and declaring democracy. The best solution is to divide Irag into the three main ethnic regions, Shia/Sunni/Kurd. You may have to shift some population but I don't see any long turn solution other then separation.

As for the election, electing McCain is just adding 4 more years to the bush presidency, so picking either Hilary or Obama wouldn't matter so long as all shreds of the current administration is wiped out of government. Why America keeps electing these scumbags is a mystery to me.

ranger2112
05-02-2008, 12:18
electing Billary Clinton is a travesty. They will continue their short-sighted breakdown of our military infrastructure. I mean hell, there are pirates on the open seas again..why? because we no longer have the navy to prevent that. we had four carrier groups plus one at home at all times..someone radioed i am under attack from a pirate, swoop from the skies and poof no more pirate. Obama may not be too bad, however he lacks the experience to enter the white house under these global situations...maybe in a calmer world environment he might be able to do well. i think he would be just overwhelmed. McCain...well he is just the lesser of three evils..at least he has years of experience in govt and military expertise.

Will
05-02-2008, 12:21
Even the US navy can't cover every single square mile of sea.

ranger2112
05-02-2008, 12:22
agreed. however, that was not a problem when we were in full strength..at least not to this level

Will
05-02-2008, 12:25
Piracy can never be entirely stamped out.

L P
06-07-2008, 16:10
Well, it looks as if Hillary won't be president.

Now I only have to fear the prospects of her becoming Vice President.

I've heard they are working on a deal where Obama will promise to publicly offer her the job so long as she promises to turn it down.

It appears he doesn't want her as VP but is obligated to make it appear as if they are united as to not lose her supporters. Of course many stupid people will fall for that.

Obama is an unqualified idiot that will be elected by radical idiots.

So in other words, unless McCain is elected, I'm still gona have to find a country that will grant me asylum.:glare:

Crimson Shadow
06-07-2008, 16:42
You and me as well.

"I'm black, so vote for me" -- How many times do you think he will play the race card before November?

L P
06-07-2008, 16:52
He doesn't play the race card himself.

Others do in an effort to make people feel guilty for not supporting him.



Like when he says he never served in the military but his grandpa did so that means he understands everything.

Crimson Shadow
06-07-2008, 17:37
very true lol

KLL
06-07-2008, 17:53
what is everyones problem with hilary?
is there any deep reason for it?

imo all three candidates are kinda morons, the good news is tho they're morons with little power to change anything

L P
06-07-2008, 18:34
Yes, the problem with Hillary is that she is Evil.

The other two may have their hang ups but Hillary is EVIL.

KLL
06-07-2008, 18:49
Yes, the problem with Hillary is that she is Evil.

The other two may have their hang ups but Hillary is EVIL.

you're gonna have to elaborate that

L P
06-07-2008, 19:13
EVIL: (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evil)

–adjective
1. morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.
2. harmful; injurious: evil laws.
3. characterized or accompanied by misfortune or suffering; unfortunate; disastrous: to be fallen on evil days.
4. due to actual or imputed bad conduct or character: an evil reputation.
5. marked by anger, irritability, irascibility, etc.: He is known for his evil disposition.
–noun
6. that which is evil; evil quality, intention, or conduct: to choose the lesser of two evils.
7. the force in nature that governs and gives rise to wickedness and sin.
8. the wicked or immoral part of someone or something: The evil in his nature has destroyed the good.
9. harm; mischief; misfortune: to wish one evil.
10. anything causing injury or harm: Tobacco is considered by some to be an evil.
11. a harmful aspect, effect, or consequence: the evils of alcohol.
12. a disease, as king's evil.
–adverb
13. in an evil manner; badly; ill: It went evil with him.
—Idiom
14. the evil one, the devil; Satan.

To learn more about evil visit Britannica.com

KLL
06-07-2008, 19:31
yea and how does that apply to hilary, especialy more to hilary than to obama, bush or the steve martin clone?

L P
06-07-2008, 19:58
Hillary = Evil

The other two, not so much.

Obama = Inexperienced, unpatriotic & incompetent.

McCain = Old, senile & mentally unstable.


In my opinion it's best not to place evil in a position of leadership.

KLL
06-07-2008, 20:05
you stil ldidn't explain.

but i think i'll put your opiniopn in the "irrational hatred" box

L P
06-07-2008, 21:04
Evil Laugh (http://www.youdecide2008.com/2007/09/25/video-hillary-clintons-evil-laughter/)

Her record (http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm)

47-clinton-linked-deaths/ (http://commanderinthief.wordpress.com/47-clinton-linked-deaths/)

Look, I could sit here and explain it to you but sometimes you just have to figure it out on your own. Evil is deceptive and so is she. Form your own opinion about her. All I know is that she scares me.

She is a senator from New York. The only reason she even lives in New York is so she could easily be elected to that office. Why didn't she run in Illinois or Arkansas? She wants power just a little too badly for my taste. I think she has her own agenda. To accomplish that she is manipulating her supporters. I don't know how much more I'd need to type to explain it so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

Crimson Shadow
06-07-2008, 21:45
what is everyones problem with hilary?
is there any deep reason for it?

imo all three candidates are kinda morons, the good news is tho they're morons with little power to change anything

I actually prefer hillary over obama....however that doesnt help me now

KLL
06-08-2008, 06:08
Evil Laughcan't see anything evil about that.


Her recordanyone in politics has a non-linear voting records. you call that politics. if a politician stayed on the same position throughout all his career, it'd be a short career.


47-clinton-linked-deaths/i actually went and researched that. the lsits is based on a "documentary" and an through investigation gave that pretty much the entire list is BS.


Look, I could sit here and explain it to you but sometimes you just have to figure it out on your own. Evil is deceptive and so is she. Form your own opinion about her. All I know is that she scares me.deceptive is the definition of a politician. so by that measure all politicians are evil... hm.. i'd actually just go and agree on that with you.


She is a senator from New York. The only reason she even lives in New York is so she could easily be elected to that office. Why didn't she run in Illinois or Arkansas? She wants power just a little too badly for my taste.thats what politicians do. someone who doesn'T want power, doesn't get elected into office. onlyy people who want the power do. its a wierd reasoning, like saying "only people who want to make a career are CEOs of large companies".
i bet, if you would only pay politicians a high school teachers salary and would not allow them any money on the side, you'D be starting to have a real shortage of politicians.


I think she has her own agenda. To accomplish that she is manipulating her supporters.again, thats a politician. its what they do.


I actually prefer hillary over obama....however that doesnt help me now
all three candidates combined wouldn't even manage to produce a viable and logical economic agenda, so it doesn't really matter who wins as long as they have a realistic foreign policy.

Will
06-08-2008, 18:31
can't see anything evil about that.

anyone in politics has a non-linear voting records. you call that politics. if a politician stayed on the same position throughout all his career, it'd be a short career.

i actually went and researched that. the lsits is based on a "documentary" and an through investigation gave that pretty much the entire list is BS.

deceptive is the definition of a politician. so by that measure all politicians are evil... hm.. i'd actually just go and agree on that with you.

thats what politicians do. someone who doesn'T want power, doesn't get elected into office. onlyy people who want the power do. its a wierd reasoning, like saying "only people who want to make a career are CEOs of large companies".
i bet, if you would only pay politicians a high school teachers salary and would not allow them any money on the side, you'D be starting to have a real shortage of politicians.

again, thats a politician. its what they do.


all three candidates combined wouldn't even manage to produce a viable and logical economic agenda, so it doesn't really matter who wins as long as they have a realistic foreign policy.

Obama has the better foreign policy but he'll be a disaster at home.

L P
06-08-2008, 19:02
I always thought it was the other way around?

KLL
06-08-2008, 19:04
Obama has the better foreign policy but he'll be a disaster at home.

foreign policy is overrated. unless you don't screw up, like invading some middle eastern country, you can pretty much do whatever you want and still get re-elected and be somewhat popular on the world stage