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Max Logan

10-07-2009, 14:17

But:

AA GoingForTop(#98) Mayor Fluffer(#59)[SLOB] Defeat / $353.938 18:38:50-2009/10/06
AA GoingForTop(#98) Mayor Fluffer(#59)[SLOB] Defeat / $329.359 18:38:47-2009/10/06

And then we remember last set...Kanny...10 and Z

And who grabbed Sky after the AA`s... lol

I`m just saying lol

pron

10-07-2009, 15:39

I must be missing something. What do you mean?

Mhaphew

10-07-2009, 16:28

doppy

10-07-2009, 17:08

what happened to #11 from last set, the ever so famous suicider that managed to live for half of the set??

Max Logan

10-07-2009, 18:20

Read back...

CommunistCapitalism

10-07-2009, 18:45

max logan you continue to amuse me with your terrible posts.
keep up the fail :thumbup:.
maybe if you get your head out of LoR's place where the sun dont shine you would have a better view on the going ons of nation-wars.
#98 was clearly a LoR setup to clear the way for an unfair retal meant purely to ruin a fair players chances at winning the set.

Once again.
http://twistedsifter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/shipment-of-fail.jpg
courtesy of the moronic Max Logan
keep up the good work

pron

10-07-2009, 20:18

max logan you continue to amuse me with your terrible posts.
keep up the fail :thumbup:.
maybe if you get your head out of LoR's place where the sun dont shine you would have a better view on the going ons of nation-wars.
#98 was clearly a LoR setup to clear the way for an unfair retal meant purely to ruin a fair players chances at winning the set.

Once again.
courtesy of the moronic Max Logan
keep up the good work

LOR took it's retal before #98 AA'ed, so that doesn't make much sense. We also had our retal policy posted long before #13 doubled in top 3--not unfair to say no doubles in top 3.

L P

10-07-2009, 20:39

SA GoingForTop(#98) The Madness(#29)[LoR] Defeat / $7.205.469 20:58:16-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) The Madness(#29)[LoR] 1.435.158 Military Units 20:57:31-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) The Madness(#29)[LoR] 1.497.624 Military Units 20:57:02-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) The Madness(#29)[LoR] 1.562.809 Military Units 20:56:43-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) The Madness(#29)[LoR] 1.630.831 Military Units 20:56:21-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) The Madness(#29)[LoR] Defeat / 20:56:09-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) The Madness(#29)[LoR] 1.701.814 Military Units 20:55:01-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) Dollhouse(#57)[SLOB] Defeat / $267.911 20:54:27-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) h2vitaja(#13)[Sky] Defeat / $3.598.366 20:52:52-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) h2vitaja(#13)[Sky] Defeat / $535.822 20:52:43-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) Osama Binladen(#20)[TTG] Defeat / $2.792.174 20:51:44-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) Pron(#74)[LoR] Defeat / $535.822 20:50:56-2009/10/07
AA GoingForTop(#98) AzN Dynasty(#39)[LoR] Defeat / $328.621 20:50:05-2009/10/07

CommunistCapitalism

10-07-2009, 20:44

you gave Z a reprieve, but not the guy in the top spot. its quite clear of your motives, so dont try to sugar coat them

L P

10-07-2009, 20:45

Huh?

pron

10-07-2009, 22:07

you gave Z a reprieve, but not the guy in the top spot. its quite clear of your motives, so dont try to sugar coat them

I wasn't working FA with Z. However, it's up to each nation to enforce their retal policy, and their choice if they don't want to. There are many reasons to not enforce a retal policy :) , and I think it's funny how you're trying to link us not retal'ing Z to us suiciding Vassu.

CommunistCapitalism

10-07-2009, 22:21

im not saying you suicided him. it was a really cheap shot, and you guys just can't admit it that you chose to use your retal to push your members into the top spot even though vusuu probably didndt even read your retal thread.
you're a true idiot to not give people even one chance, but hey, whatever.

kanman

10-07-2009, 22:32

We posted a reasonable retal policy at the beginning of the round. I don't know how you can fault us for enforcing it. In other cases we were more lenient but that is entirely up to us.

When vussu doubled pron as he was trying to run away was exactly why we have that part of the retal policy in the first place. We follow our own policy so when me or pron jumped, we did not double tap top 3 states so I think it is entirely fair what we did.

CommunistCapitalism

10-07-2009, 22:35

well, i dont want to pick a fight with LoR, so i'll drop it at that, you guys can handle your own affairs but meh, i still think people aren't embracing the "new rules" and thats why i'm upset

doppy

10-07-2009, 23:01

well, i dont want to pick a fight with LoR, so i'll drop it at that, you guys can handle your own affairs but meh, i still think people aren't embracing the "new rules" and thats why i'm upset

I don't think you're upset people not following "new rules." Whatever this new rule might be...AA and SA? Which is exactly what #98 did?

I think you're just bitter that even after #98 hit #13 and a TTG even took advantage of the situation, he still can't reach top spot, and you're blaming everything on LOR just because we inheritted the #1 and #2 spot.

Let's be fair here, there's a reason why some players in top 10 is spared and some are not. You don't just build pure inf armies and wish no one (new or old) will attack you. #13 got caught off guard, and so did one of our own members L P earlier today. We're working on dealing with the situation at the moment. And this is not a staged scenario. We don't sacrifiece one of our own member's enjoyment to satisfy another's. That's not how we operate here in this game.

Max Logan

10-08-2009, 00:27

you gave Z a reprieve, but not the guy in the top spot. its quite clear of your motives, so dont try to sugar coat them

eh...you`re an idiot and clearly have no idea what I`m talking about. and if you didn`t read back a few posts as I said, I have nothing to say to you!

but as you`re a FAIL, I`ll explain...
BOTH times, acctually 3, after being AAed the suicided state was grabbed by Z...

Now I FAIL to see me mentioning LoR there, but OK, you`re the Man Fail here

CommunistCapitalism

10-08-2009, 06:21

pron

10-08-2009, 12:10

Just FYI, you're the kid that made the idiotic I apologize thread in wars and relations, how can you call someone a failure :o.
and doppy, i am upset you aren't following the new rules. Because Sky should have remained in the top spot because according to the new rules, which got rid of the unspoken ones, you guys wouldn't be justified to make a retal in that situation. But hey, what do i know?

It wasn't an unspoken rule that we would AR down 2x the land that someone grabbed if they doubled our top 3...we posted it in the forums...

It's also funny that you think #13 would lose the set because of that. He still had way more land than Kanny and I, and would still have pulled away.

CommunistCapitalism

10-08-2009, 15:48

thats not at all what i said.
pres announced it would be a new game where war attacks and triples would be allowed.
yet nations still continue to enforce these policies

Xavior

10-08-2009, 16:27

thats not at all what i said.
pres announced it would be a new game where war attacks and triples would be allowed.
yet nations still continue to enforce these policies

As much as we love Mr. P, he does not make the rules of the game. It does not say in the TOS that you aren't allowed to enforce your own retal policy.

What we did was to start with a blank slate. There is no more universally accepted 2x out of top 10, 1x in top 10, no war attacks outside of war. Instead, we are to play the game we want to play while choosing to enforce our retal policies or to let them slide. If my nation allows 3x in top 10 and yours doesn't, which nation will have the balls to enforce their policy? Thats the way Mr. P wants the game to be played, not just everyone sticking with the old rules anymore.

We've already seen this happen. TTG goes around AAing people before they SA because its they way they want to play. LoR doesn't allow 2x in top 3. These aren't the old rules, these are entirely new and we'll see how they will be accepted.

but don't get me wrong, :walmp:

Devil

10-08-2009, 16:29

thats not at all what i said.
pres announced it would be a new game where war attacks and triples would be allowed.
yet nations still continue to enforce these policies

they do it to protect their members. I mean wouldnt you be upset if someone started ar'ing you because you SA'ed them and they coulndt break you? Or aa'ed you and then grabbed you?

Would you really accept that as normal play? You could keep aa'ing eachother and grabbing eachothe back for so long until you realize its futile and just war eachother to stop one of the other.

LoR put out a policy that was similar to old unwritten rules but not exact.

Plus whats the point of the other attacks out of war? You gain nothing from ar'ing ga'ing unless you intend and do kill that state.

doppy

10-08-2009, 16:30

That's what nations are for, right? To protect common interest? No one in the top 10 likes to be double/triple tapped. Thus, a nation make up it's own retal policies to ensure their benefits are respected by others out there. IRL, you don't see terrorists groups carry out attacks against innocent people without consequences, right?

I think it's reasonable that retal policies be stated and actions be carried out. If any nation doesn't like the retal policies, feel free to attack and be considered an act of war. Afterall, this game is called "nation" wars for a reason. And there's UN to help keep things in check once in a while.

Some people might argue that LOR is so big right now no one want to war for their own interest. This happened with SLOB as well last set. Honestly I don't mind setting the maximum number of players in each nation to 10~15 and enhance ally features between nations in this game. I think that diversifies the dynamics of the game. I think it'd be interesting to see how the game turns out.