SV vs Sky USA TNG MLM (+?)

[Divine Intervention]

no *****ing here, SV was made with little intention to net. makes sense that some decided to FS first (something i expected but was taking some time brining the more inactive players states into shape).

have no idea who invited TNG to the party considering that no one would have voted for you but i guess with 2 bigger nations at your back you have some more balls ;)

should be fun...many of my guys are online...both sides are stacked on turns.

:spam::

[Disorder]

:popcorns: Have fun, I'll be watching from the side line!!!

[Calvin74]

can someone give me a run down on it?
who hit who and what are the numbers on both sides? total members and total nw and avg land:P

[nosejam]

Before the war

1 ... Shock Value[SV]... $116.541.855 ... $5.067.037 ... $0 ... $0 ...0 ...180.947 ...7.867 ... 23
2 ...Skycati armee[Sky] ... $112.772.496 ... $8.674.807... $0 ... $0 ... 0 ... 157.570 ... 12.121 ...13
3 ...America[USA] ...$85.542.694 ... $5.702.846... $0 ... $0 ... 0 ... 100.448 ...6.697 ... 15
9 ... The Next Generation[TNG] ...$23.503.573 ...$2.350.357 ... $0 ... $0 ... 0 ... 53.736 ... 5.374 ... 10

After the FS

1 ...Skycati armee[Sky]... $135.432.251 ... $10.417.865 ... $0 ... $0 ... 0 ...157.922 ... 12.148 ...13
2 ... America[USA] ... $117.349.295 ... $7.823.286... $0 ...$0 ... 0 .... 104.893 ...6.993 ... 15
3 ... Shock Value[SV] ... $90.481.419 ... $4.762.180 ... $0... $0 ...0 ...138.033 ...7.265 ...19
9 ...The Next Generation[TNG] ...$22.643.631 ... $2.264.363 ...$11.853.646 ...$2.963.412 ...4 ...54.269 ... 5.427 ...10

SV in bold just to set them apart

[boostah]

let me state that 3 turns attacks and readiness loss no mather what, sucks

[Devil]

that was the whole fs?

yup 3 turn attacks are a pain.... pretty much makes ga'ing a casher out of the question :P

[Divine Intervention]

can someone give me a run down on it?
who hit who and what are the numbers on both sides? total members and total nw and avg land:P

so lazy

18:05:41-2010/01/10 The Next Generation[TNG] has declared War on Shock Value[SV]
18:04:32-2010/01/10 Skycati armee[Sky] has declared War on Shock Value[SV]
18:03:20-2010/01/10 America[USA] has declared War on Shock Value[SV]
17:05:36-2010/01/10 The Next Generation[TNG] has began building forces along the borders of an enemy nation
17:01:44-2010/01/10 Skycati armee[Sky] has began building forces along the borders of an enemy nation
17:00:57-2010/01/10 America[USA] has began building forces along the borders of an enemy nation

[-Z-]

3 turns per attack (which I have been working with for months now) makes for more fun, and challenge.

This should be a good war.

Z

[Max Logan]

that was the whole fs?

my question exactly... for 30 people...that's kinda low :p

[nosejam]

Sky are now doing their own FS, killed two.

SV are doing their CS also killing two.

[Satan666]

but i wanted to sleep more today. :thumbdown:

[Shabaz K]

but i wanted to sleep more today. :thumbdown:


i feel you bro!

[Mr President]

my question exactly... for 30 people...that's kinda low :p

Well now let's not start judging.. I mean there is more to this then simply having 30 people on striking. (a lot less actually)

First we all had a low turnout of members.
Second um 3 turns for war attacks. (enough said there)

oh and let's not forget that i did one attack before i actually declared. Then soon after that i attacked the wrong state then i forgot to watch my food and red turned.

All i have to say is CRIMSON WHERE ARE YOU? I really missed his help today :-/

SV was planning on warring us this set anyway all we did was speed it up a little bit and put it on our time frame instead of there's. They have a very good amount of warrers this set so they should have no problem.

Oh and Anton i am really sorry i was the reason your pizza burnt.. That ruined everything right there.. I mean you can mess up a mans state and pick on his cloths but you NEVER make a man pizza burn... I'll send you some money for a new one. :)

[Mr President]

I am going to get back to working on the new Missile Attack feature.. So if you all could hold off attacking me now that would be great..

thanks :)

[Divine Intervention]

SV was planning on warring us this set anyway all we did was speed it up a little bit and put it on our time frame instead of there's.

can i just point out that if everyone (or rather majority) had voted for a nation other than USA then we wouldn't have hit you :)

oh and likewise, im writing an essay so dont disturb with ARs etc :p

[ooga booga]

Well now let's not start judging.. I mean there is more to this then simply having 30 people on striking. (a lot less actually)

First we all had a low turnout of members.
Second um 3 turns for war attacks. (enough said there)

oh and let's not forget that i did one attack before i actually declared. Then soon after that i attacked the wrong state then i forgot to watch my food and red turned.

All i have to say is CRIMSON WHERE ARE YOU? I really missed his help today :-/

SV was planning on warring us this set anyway all we did was speed it up a little bit and put it on our time frame instead of there's. They have a very good amount of warrers this set so they should have no problem.

Oh and Anton i am really sorry i was the reason your pizza burnt.. That ruined everything right there.. I mean you can mess up a mans state and pick on his cloths but you NEVER make a man pizza burn... I'll send you some money for a new one. :)

You were a mess today. :P lol If you need Crimson that badly you could have just asked me for help. Not like I ever warred before... IUH:::

haha jk :)

[Mr President]

can i just point out that if everyone (or rather majority) had voted for a nation other than USA then we wouldn't have hit you :)

oh and likewise, im writing an essay so dont disturb with ARs etc :p

From what i was told we were pretty high on your voting list.. I couldn't afford to take chances and wait it out to see if we would die or not. :)

Just being put on the voting board is enough for me to strike first.


You were a mess today. :P lol If you need Crimson that badly you could have just asked me for help. Not like I ever warred before... IUH:::

haha jk :)

whoa easy now.. It wasn't that bad lol.. Let's not forget that it's been YEARS since i have ran a war chat all by myself.. not to mention having 2 other nations in the chat as well..

All in all with the amount of members from all nations and the 3 turn war attacks we didn't do that bad.. Oh and the plain fact that quite a few of the targets came online during the attacks... um yea that sucks! lol

There will be a new change implemented next set. Anytime USA wars the war turns will go to 2 per attack.. When other nations war it will still be 3.


:)

[Mr President]

At one point the game had 38 members logged in at one time. I know to some games out there thats weak.... But for ours that is really nice to see. Shows things are picking up around here. :)

[boostah]

can i just point out that if everyone (or rather majority) had voted for a nation other than USA then we wouldn't have hit you :)

oh and likewise, im writing an essay so dont disturb with ARs etc :p

i have exams and i'm in my master year, so **** off :p (ah and perhaps i'll be studying in england (cranfield uni to be exact) next year)

[Divine Intervention]

i have exams and i'm in my master year, so **** off :p (ah and perhaps i'll be studying in england (cranfield uni to be exact) next year)

yeah but all you have to do is log on use your turns and and log out, less time consuming ^_^

btw why will you be going to Cranfield? ive seen them crop up in several MBA tables or something for their business school - but my view was that if you wanted to get into finance you did: judge/said/lbs/lse/wbs/cass & ICBS (in order of memory). go to WBS and you can study with me :D

@ Mr P - everyone would have gone on the voting board and acted upon as voted. There were only 2 targets i would have been dead set against attacking - SE (because theyre new & returning old players) & a player in one of the bigger nations (didn't want him to quit had we chosen his nation as target)

[boostah]

yeah but all you have to do is log on use your turns and and log out, less time consuming ^_^

btw why will you be going to Cranfield? ive seen them crop up in several MBA tables or something for their business school - but my view was that if you wanted to get into finance you did: judge/said/lbs/lse/wbs/cass & ICBS (in order of memory). go to WBS and you can study with me :D

@ Mr P - everyone would have gone on the voting board and acted upon as voted. There were only 2 targets i would have been dead set against attacking - SE (because theyre new & returning old players) & a player in one of the bigger nations (didn't want him to quit had we chosen his nation as target)

i'm an engineer, and want to follow technical courses, and if i'm not mistaken, cranfield is one of the/the best technical university in England (and specialized, not just like mechanical engineer, cause i will already have the degree by then) + only them and MIT organise the course i want to take (gas turbine technology). And well, MIT is abit over my head if you ask me :p.

[Calvin74]

see this is why i never leave protection
can't be killed if no one can hit you:P

[Divine Intervention]

see this is why i never leave protection
can't be killed if no one can hit you:P

are you sure you're not OOP :tongue::

@ Boostah - fair play. btw you'll only be 1 hour 30 drive away from me <3

[Max Logan]

Well now let's not start judging.. I mean there is more to this then simply having 30 people on striking. (a lot less actually)

First we all had a low turnout of members.
Second um 3 turns for war attacks. (enough said there)

oh and let's not forget that i did one attack before i actually declared. Then soon after that i attacked the wrong state then i forgot to watch my food and red turned.

4 people can kill 1 and little more, so 6 is ok for now! :p

[Mr President]

whew.... relief... for a moment there i thought we had disappointed you.... :)

[Calvin74]

are you sure you're not OOP :tongue::

@ Boostah - fair play. btw you'll only be 1 hour 30 drive away from me <3

well lets see if you can find my state
you can ask mr p for help if you want:P

[Max Logan]

whew.... relief... for a moment there i thought we had disappointed you.... :)

you have...Anton is alive :p

[Calvin74]

you have...Anton is alive :p

mr p isn't satisfied with killing his state. he is sending him a virus:P

[Cemetary]

At one point the game had 38 members logged in at one time. I know to some games out there thats weak.... But for ours that is really nice to see. Shows things are picking up around here. :)

yea i got a call while at work saying i was being aaed so i logged on and refueled but when i was logging on i saw 38 members online.. nearly poo'd myself

[Magalya2]

**Enter the zone with her helmet on and out of breath **

Well now i am not happy ....

I was too buzy taking care of injured and have not been part of the war :(

And i got that bunch of war hits in bank errrrrrrrr

Will be there next time surely

((In fact , i ahve call the ambulance and bring my mom to the hospital 2 days ago and i travel home and hospital a few times a day ...

I am taking care of her since many years now and she was not well .

And i have mixed up the hours :blink:

Will be ready next time hehe ))

[boostah]

yea i got a call while at work saying i was being aaed so i logged on and refueled but when i was logging on i saw 38 members online.. nearly poo'd myself

you do know you have a serious problem/issue if you get called and react for a game?

Hi cem btw :p

[Magalya2]

boostah , it is called addiction ;)

[northbabylon]

you do know you have a serious problem/issue if you get called and react for a game?

Hi cem btw :p

lol when Lor Hit NS a few sets back...i just camped on my computer at work :P

[Devil]

lol when Lor Hit NS a few sets back...i just camped on my computer at work :P

and you still died ;)

[northbabylon]

and you still died ;)

lol after i sw 3 times lol...the 4th time i was just like **** it... i wad down to ~200 land 3 times.

[Shabaz K]

**Enter the zone with her helmet on and out of breath **

Well now i am not happy ....

I was too buzy taking care of injured and have not been part of the war :(

And i got that bunch of war hits in bank errrrrrrrr

Will be there next time surely

((In fact , i ahve call the ambulance and bring my mom to the hospital 2 days ago and i travel home and hospital a few times a day ...

I am taking care of her since many years now and she was not well .

And i have mixed up the hours :blink:

Will be ready next time hehe ))


oh dear, i hope you gets well soon, dont worry about warring thiers always other times

[Magalya2]

I sure count on another time Shabaz hehe ;)

Thank you for the wish , i hope she will recover too :)

Mags ☼

[Max Logan]

mr p isn't satisfied with killing his state. he is sending him a virus:P

Staff abuse! :o



Go Mr P!

[Mr President]

yea i got a call while at work saying i was being aaed so i logged on and refueled but when i was logging on i saw 38 members online.. nearly poo'd myself

lol i know what you mean. I saw that and i was very happy to see that many on at one time.

But i have to say i would have been much happier if you had not logged on and saved your state.. Think i could have those wasted turns back? :)

[Mr President]

**Enter the zone with her helmet on and out of breath **

Well now i am not happy ....

I was too buzy taking care of injured and have not been part of the war :(

And i got that bunch of war hits in bank errrrrrrrr

Will be there next time surely

((In fact , i ahve call the ambulance and bring my mom to the hospital 2 days ago and i travel home and hospital a few times a day ...

I am taking care of her since many years now and she was not well .

And i have mixed up the hours :blink:

Will be ready next time hehe ))

WoW you remind me of the rest of us bums who are hooked on this game. You leave your poor mom in the hospital to rush home to war.. Man you are hooked!

As i said in the ingame message. Real Life always comes first so please spend the time with her. Although i am very happy that you have only been playing this game for one set and you are so dedicated.. You wear the USA colors well.. :)

[Magalya2]

You think i am hook to the game Mr President !!!!

Really :blink:

hmmm .... Maybe yes :p lol

P.S. : you know what they say :

An addicted that admitted his/her addiction is better then an addicted that do not realize his/her addiction and stay addicted without understanding why he/she is addicted :p

Does it makes sense lol

[Mr President]

maybe it's not the game.. maybe it's my charming personality.. Dang i'm just so likable :)

it's a curse....

[Magalya2]

**Takes out her helmet and adjust her beautifull wig ,looks to see if Lord -Z- is around then ... **

You may have hit the nail right were it needed to be hehe

True that you are very charming and like many seems to say in here ...

:walmp:

lol

[Nat22]

...wear the USA colours well :hammer2:

[Mr President]

lol.. thats what it says.. Ghost:::

[Nat22]

looks like it's time to die Mr P...
you just had to go and be smart didn't you lol

[Mr President]

lol

[Max Logan]

Be nice P! lol

[Mr President]

uh uh uh but he started it..

*kicks wall and pouts*

[Divine Intervention]

edit title to say SV vs Sky USA TNG MLM (+?)

[boostah]

...wear the USA colours well :hammer2:

understandable, i think he's more like george bush, so its normal :D

[Lord Burch]

Wow, your enemies list just keeps growing Anton...apparently you pissed off too many people...

[Mr President]

understandable, i think he's more like george bush, so its normal :D

Ouch... Mr. Gore that hurt...

[Divine Intervention]

Wow, your enemies list just keeps growing Anton...apparently you pissed off too many people...

not pissed off - scared is the better word.

jks ;)

USA and Sky did what was anyone would have done when a big nation announces that it has plans to war.

TNG i dont know - dont care really (only nosejam and patriot pino are :thumbup: fellas that i recognize).

[boostah]

Ouch... Mr. Gore that hurt...

hey, it was that or beeing called black!, once you would agree with that cops would come and arrest you (hell its always the black dude)

ps.: disclaimer blablabla :p

[Crimson Shadow]

edit title to say SV vs Sky USA TNG MLM (+?)

Edited upon request!

Enjoy lol

[Divine Intervention]

thanks :)

score atm is 6 dead SV and in retal - 2 dead sky 3 dead usa

[BlitzKrieg]

You couldn't have waited for me to use my turns LoL? How inconsiderate. :D

[Max Logan]

TNG i dont know - dont care really (only nosejam and patriot pino are :thumbup: fellas that i recognize).

WoW! They get recognition!!! :o

[Divine Intervention]

i think you misunderstood me Max. but that's okay, English isn't your first language :)

btw 6-6 :)

[boostah]

oee you killed mags, you dont realize you've just woken a vulcano (actually she has 2 :p)

anyway, why did you kill # 68? (top 1 guy), he wasn't active in war and seems like a waste of turns?

[vussu]

yeah, it was my 3rd time trying to win a set and also 3rd time when i got killed trying this :glare:

[Divine Intervention]

@ boostah - its ridiculous to think that you can war us (let alone participate in a gang bang of this size) and get away with having a top1 state. He wasn't active cos he was busy getting 12mill agm and 5-6 mill ships...

@ vussu - should have sent me a message asking to switch sides...wouldn't have killed u then :-p

[Cemetary]

oee you killed mags, you dont realize you've just woken a vulcano (actually she has 2 :p)

anyway, why did you kill # 68? (top 1 guy), he wasn't active in war and seems like a waste of turns?

yea he went from absolutely no ar defense and a few ships to having 6m ships and 12m agms.. im sure he wouldnt have stayed out of war for too long

[disturbia]

@ vussu - should have sent me a message asking to switch sides...wouldn't have killed u then :-p

lol laughter therapy =)

[Clowntown]

P.S. : you know what they say :

An addicted that admitted his/her addiction is better then an addicted that do not realize his/her addiction and stay addicted without understanding why he/she is addicted :p




actually yes it makes perfect sence 2 me


thoes that are addicted and know it are in a better then thoes that are addiced and dont realize it.


now .. who killed you magalya?

[Magalya2]

**Enter the war zone her helmet on and her beautifull wig looking hmmm bad from warring ;) **

They have wait for my army to rest and then send an assault that have kill me :blink:

I have no idea who have kill me , is there a way to check ??

Well ... i am back on the road and building up my army again :D

Hopefully this time i will be abble to killed a few foes before dieying again lol

Edit : good that it makes sense to you Clown ;)

[nosejam]

**Enter the war zone her helmet on and her beautifull wig looking hmmm bad from warring ;) **

They have wait for my army to rest and then send an assault that have kill me :blink:

I have no idea who have kill me , is there a way to check ??

Well ... i am back on the road and building up my army again :D

Hopefully this time i will be abble to killed a few foes before dieying again lol

Edit : good that it makes sense to you Clown ;)

If you check the Global Events and put in your old # you can see allt he attacks done on you.

[Mrmcjoey15]

Any one else find it pathetic on how SV is winning?

[Divine Intervention]

i wouldn't say were winning...together USA and Sky has a very good set of strong states..however we are performing much better than one would expect of a nation that just got outnumbered nearly 2vs1 and FSed by a coalition which includes 2 multiple set winning nations.

[Mrmcjoey15]

i wouldn't say were winning...together USA and Sky has a very good set of strong states..however we are performing much better than one would expect of a nation that just got outnumbered nearly 2vs1 and FSed by a coalition which includes 2 multiple set winning nations.

Lets not give u a medal here anton i mean our FS concisted of 10 ppl....

and i woudlnt say your performing better than one would expect...

a nation of 19 active experienced (which all your members are) members should be able to get 6 kills.

[Magalya2]

If you check the Global Events and put in your old # you can see allt he attacks done on you.

Went to look at , i do know who they are now ;)

ohhhhh , interesting lol

[Divine Intervention]

Lets not give u a medal here anton i mean our FS concisted of 10 ppl....

and i woudlnt say your performing better than one would expect...

a nation of 19 active experienced (which all your members are) members should be able to get 6 kills.

joey no one cares what you think - you're a ****ty leader. one of your nation mates got killed by MLM and you do nothing except hope to tag along and share some of Sky/USAs spoils this set.

not to mention that between 4 nations im sure you guys can come up with '19 active experienced' members and then some.

[Shabaz K]

joey no one cares what you think - you're a ****ty leader. one of your nation mates got killed by MLM and you do nothing except hope to tag along and share some of Sky/USAs spoils this set.

not to mention that between 4 nations im sure you guys can come up with '19 active experienced' members and then some.

if we wanted to we cuold have killed them but why when we can have them hit you instead. i know Pino was mad i talked to him, and got him to understand, i do care about my nation mates so zip it, for a person can only bring in peoples for a set or two and then run off to other nations.

[Divine Intervention]

if we wanted to we cuold have killed them but why when we can have them hit you instead. i know Pino was mad i talked to him, and got him to understand, i do care about my nation mates so zip it, for a person can only bring in peoples for a set or two and then run off to other nations.

except youll find that the people who play with me are the same set in set out for months. and last year i was running nations non stop..and when i wasnt i was pretty much in the same tag for half a year. so i have no clue what youre talking about. the only thing that doesn't last about my nations is their names - but thats because as i said, i enjoy the creativity :)

oh and "but why when we can have them hit you instead." --> dont you mean:
"but why when we can tag along with 2 other nations and hit you instead?"

honestly i cant rmb last time i was impressed with TNG (except when they had a strong WLF contingent).

fact of matter is: Sky and USA - perfectly legit reasons to attack. heck even Asbestos and WANT wouldnt have been totally out of their place to have done the same thing - they had top states and had something to fear to lose - TNG on the other hand? i have no idea what you guys are doing at this party. id have no problems with u guys hitting us if you had a top3 state or something - but this is clearly a case of you trying to have a share of someone elses glory.

[nosejam]

**** why did no-one tell us the aim of the game was to impress Anton?

There we were just having fun, shame on us :(

[Divine Intervention]

well thats the intention of the set, and so far its going as planned :)

[Shabaz K]

except youll find that the people who play with me are the same set in set out for months. and last year i was running nations non stop..and when i wasnt i was pretty much in the same tag for half a year. so i have no clue what youre talking about. the only thing that doesn't last about my nations is their names - but thats because as i said, i enjoy the creativity :)

oh and "but why when we can have them hit you instead." --> dont you mean:
"but why when we can tag along with 2 other nations and hit you instead?"

honestly i cant rmb last time i was impressed with TNG (except when they had a strong WLF contingent).

i got nothing against your creativity, but most of the people you have dont stick around with you. alot of people i see in thier, i already know how they are, and then yes that do paly with you alot.


like i said they asked us and we joined, nothing had to with joining two other nations. if we wanted to hit you we could have done it ourselfs, even if we lose, but only few players here wanted to hit SV, but seeing as you had the numbers and threaten other nations we had to join the cuase, i dont care what you think of us, we are not here to impress you nor we care about you or ur nation.

we TNG had better netting sets then of those with wlf days, you can only talk of what you now of so thats your opinion which has nothing to do of TNG's history

[Divine Intervention]

k well if its a case of USA asking for help then its a diff matter :) and correction its not a case of most people not sticking around - its a case of me not recruiting them back again :( . i enjoy playing with all of them in the same tag but leading large tags set in set out is very time consuming which is why usually ill have the same group play with me set in set out and then every now and again ill do something bigger with my other friends then go back to being small depending on time. perfectly understandable imo.

regarding TNG & WLF - pfft, WLF was made for warring, and thats what they shall do :P no wonder you didnt have many good netting sets :p

btw - i think youre reading too much into the "impress" comment. i doubt anyone here is trying to impress anyone :)

[Shabaz K]

k well if its a case of USA asking for help then its a diff matter :) and correction its not a case of most people not sticking around - its a case of me not recruiting them back again :( . i enjoy playing with all of them in the same tag but leading large tags set in set out is very time consuming which is why usually ill have the same group play with me set in set out and then every now and again ill do something bigger with my other friends then go back to being small depending on time. perfectly understandable imo.

regarding TNG & WLF - pfft, WLF was made for warring, and thats what they shall do :P no wonder you didnt have many good netting sets :p

btw - i think youre reading too much into the "impress" comment. i doubt anyone here is trying to impress anyone :)

well alot of the players i see are form other nations who commit thier time to that nation adn others who join you if you are netting only, they dont tend to show up for you for every cause.

we had few really good netting sets, and alot medicore sets, but we also warred qiute few sets, but we still are here:D


and no i dont kow what you mean by the "impress" comment

i just commented on what you wrote so:p

and we dont hate, i knwo you have asked to play with but u always come when the sets started, while i had my plans set up the previous set.

[Divine Intervention]

well last time i made a major warring nation - i had lots of members. last time i made nations with intentions of winning set - i had lots of members (Smile, WAL, DaK). those are the 2 causes i have. enough people always turn up for them.

i think you still dont get round the concept that i dont have time to do similar set ups like other nations...when i have desire/time to do something big - i recruit lots of ppl. when i dont - i scale down and ask only ~ 3-4 people (same ppl each time) to join.

[Shabaz K]

well last time i made a major warring nation - i had lots of members. last time i made nations with intentions of winning set - i had lots of members (Smile, WAL, DaK). those are the 2 causes i have. enough people always turn up for them.

i think you still dont get round the concept that i dont have time to do similar set ups like other nations...when i have desire/time to do something big - i recruit lots of ppl. when i dont - i scale down and ask only ~ 3-4 people (same ppl each time) to join.


its not that i dont understadn your concept its just that im not buying it right now.

[boostah]

yea he went from absolutely no ar defense and a few ships to having 6m ships and 12m agms.. im sure he wouldnt have stayed out of war for too long

maybe he didn't want to be a sitting duck. Nah difference of view, i feel that 3turns warattacks makes turns much more important then size or mill, i wouldve let him live and keep killing war active states (while keeping an eye on him that he would start stocking up turns)

But that's just me, i dont care about prestige, only about winning :p

[boostah]

i wouldn't say were winning...together USA and Sky has a very good set of strong states..however we are performing much better than one would expect of a nation that just got outnumbered nearly 2vs1 and FSed by a coalition which includes 2 multiple set winning nations.

It wasn't 2-1, if you keep adding states it'll never be 2-1, please keep that in mind. Yet you do war very good, i'm not going to minimize that

[Devil]

maybe he didn't want to be a sitting duck. Nah difference of view, i feel that 3turns warattacks makes turns much more important then size or mill, i wouldve let him live and keep killing war active states (while keeping an eye on him that he would start stocking up turns)

But that's just me, i dont care about prestige, only about winning :p

what happens when 2 days later he has ran away and then has 20mil agms and 15mil ships and decides to start AA'ing?

Sky entered the war and he was in SKY, therefore he was part of the war, his fault for staying if you ask me.

Plus who doesnt enjoy killing the top1 state?

[Divine Intervention]

its not that i dont understadn your concept its just that im not buying it right now.

whats there to buy? its always been a case of either a massive warring/netting nation (DaK, Smile, EoS, WAL, SV) or a small nation of close friends (High times 7 ppl , Pride & prejudice 5ppl, One Tribe 4ppl ) + a few others im sure that i cant recall atm.

let me ask you this question - why recruit loads of people each set if you dont have any plans for doing anything interesting?

[Cemetary]

its not that i dont understadn your concept its just that im not buying it right now.

Pretty sure if Anton wanted to he could have a 15+ person nation every set of decently experienced players.. hell id probably join him every set if he asked jsut because i know that their wont be a bunch of tards in the nation with me

[nosejam]

Pretty sure if Anton wanted to he could have a 15+ person nation every set of decently experienced players.. hell id probably join him every set if he asked jsut because i know that their wont be a bunch of tards in the nation with me

I bet SLOB wish he would then they'd be the nation that gets warred every set instead of SLOB.

[pron]

i got nothing against your creativity, but most of the people you have dont stick around with you. alot of people i see in thier, i already know how they are, and then yes that do paly with you alot.


like i said they asked us and we joined, nothing had to with joining two other nations. if we wanted to hit you we could have done it ourselfs, even if we lose, but only few players here wanted to hit SV, but seeing as you had the numbers and threaten other nations we had to join the cuase, i dont care what you think of us, we are not here to impress you nor we care about you or ur nation.

we TNG had better netting sets then of those with wlf days, you can only talk of what you now of so thats your opinion which has nothing to do of TNG's history

I'm curious to know why Mr. P is out asking for help. Thought he was more of a fair fight kind of person /shrug SKY and USA were even numbers with SV, that's why we elected to war both those nations. Could have warred USA, then warred Sky. Guess Mr. P likes numbers on his side--can't say I blame him considering how the war is going so far...

[Mr President]

lol this is one of the best parts about wars.. All the smack talk in the forums.

USA did NOT asked for help. All i did was alerted certain nations and told them we were not waiting around to be hit and if they wanted in that was great. If not then that's ok too.

SKY told me they wanted in 1 day before we actually struck so they didn't have time to plan or prepare. Which is why there top state went down so easy.

USA and TNG didn't have the member count showing up at the FS that they hoped for but we still had enough not to call off the strike.. Also USA's main guns are not in USA this set. We have a lot of new people and i figured we spent a couple sets showing them the ropes now let's show them how to war. So i am not expecting anything more then i'm seeing right now from the newer people. I'm just glad they are getting exposure to warring.

Now seeing you all wanna sling mud.. SV has been preparing for war since DAY 1 and all they have is 6 kills? Actually 4 kills cause 2 of the USA states they killed are new to the game and didn't have much at all. But hey war is war and a kill is a kill.

I was kinda hoping this war would be fun. One where we could show new people how to war and also get some action going. So why do you all have to start popping out your chest acting like your all that? If a nation full of vets haven't proven there stuff by now then might just wanna give it up.

SV has some great states and great warrers and they are doing fine. Pretty much as i expected them too do. The war is far from over. Lots of things can happen. USA has been knocked to the ground but several times has come back and won the war. But let me be clear about one thing here, USA is not looking for a win or bragging rights. We are simply showing our members what war is all about. And seeing SV planned to war this set i thought what a great time to show them.

There are lots of other nations who wanted in on the FS. Perhaps we are just the opener? Perhaps we were just sent in to weaken you guys up a little. Perhaps perhaps perhaps.. You guys are not the only clever ones in the group ya know.. This isn't my first rodeo lol..

Anywhooo can we please just have fun and not puff out our chests and at like kings please? Let's just show some of the new members how it is to have fun warring.

:)

[Mr President]

oh and again let me be clear.. We didn't ask for help. We simply spilled the beans that one of our spies in your nation told us about. I alerted the other nations, told them your plans and they felt the same as I did... Better to strike first then be killed waiting..

[Divine Intervention]

oh just want to make clear - not slinging mud - i have nothing against USA or Sky. and our plans were clear from day 1 - we vote.

[Mr President]

yes you vote but USA was going to be hit either first or second.. :)

It's cool that we were a target. I was going to talk to you about warring this set anyway to help train the members. I have no issues with SV and i think you guys are doing a great job.. I just wanted to make sure this all stayed fun and not some big smear feast..

This war will only last a few short days but the names we call each other will last a lifetime..

lmao lmao lmao lmao.. oh come on.... that was funny!

[Max Logan]

You`re both turds...now that will never change :p

[Nat22]

Plus who doesnt enjoy killing the top1 state?

I don't.... no wait... it was quite fun :D

[Mr President]

ya know we would actually get a lot more kills if some of you would just log off.. :)





You`re both turds...now that will never change :p

That hurt max... words cut pretty deep ya know. :(

[Max Logan]

That hurt max... words cut pretty deep ya know. :(

I`m sorry! I`ll make up for it :(
A cookie? :o

[Mr President]

You have to take out 3 SV states in order to be forgiven!

[Mrmcjoey15]

joey no one cares what you think - you're a ****ty leader. one of your nation mates got killed by MLM and you do nothing except hope to tag along and share some of Sky/USAs spoils this set.

not to mention that between 4 nations im sure you guys can come up with '19 active experienced' members and then some.

**** off anton Ik im a ****ty leader hence why im not leading one of our nation mates was killed by MLM and we WERE gonna do something about it. But we didnt have the time nore the turns at the time. So it was join or die when were done with SV. They choese Join.

Sofar a good play seeing as though TNG has ripped you for 6 members.

Just cause you got an ego bigger than anything ive ever seen dosent make u better than the rest of us. NW was a better place when u "retired"

[Max Logan]

You have to take out 3 SV states in order to be forgiven!

Jus t3? Pffft! :p

[pron]

**** off anton Ik im a ****ty leader hence why im not leading one of our nation mates was killed by MLM and we WERE gonna do something about it. But we didnt have the time nore the turns at the time. So it was join or die when were done with SV. They choese Join.

Sofar a good play seeing as though TNG has ripped you for 6 members.

Just cause you got an ego bigger than anything ive ever seen dosent make u better than the rest of us. NW was a better place when u "retired"

This guy missed the memo Mr. P

And I wasn't puffing my chest--just saying that 38-23 doesn't seem like a fair fight that I know you're usually up for--even if we were planning to war you.

[Cape]

Dang, the three stooges tried to kill me twice today :(


They epic fail at it but it's the effort that counts ;)

[boostah]

Dang, the three stooges tried to kill me twice today :(


They epic fail at it but it's the effort that counts ;)

told them to hit a euro target :p

[Mrmcjoey15]

Dang, the three stooges tried to kill me twice today :(


They epic fail at it but it's the effort that counts ;)

3rd times the charm?

[Mr President]

Dang, the three stooges tried to kill me twice today :(


They epic fail at it but it's the effort that counts ;)

looks like people can text and you can log in before we can kill.. lol

don't worry we will get ya soon :)

Nice save though.. least we got ya a little smaller :)

[Jag]

Dang guys you almost had me. Logged on just at the right time. I know I'll go down sooner or later but I took over 300 of your turns than 3,417 from the last 2 states to attack. So much for forward progress!!!!!::oops:

[Mr President]

lol.. there were some SV states that went down today. Sadly none by USA :(

yesterday when hitting none of our states were there ones who got that final attack in.. the *caugh* kill stealing TNG crew got them all.. lmao jk

When more then one nation wars the same these things happen. But again i think it's time for me to retire from leading. I just don't have the stuff it takes to make clean solid strikes anymore i guess :( My role around here has changed i guess. Need to leave all the planning up to the younger crew and just sit back and attack when needed :) less stress lol.

[Jag]

lol.. there were some SV states that went down today. Sadly none by USA :(

yesterday when hitting none of our states were there ones who got that final attack in.. the *caugh* kill stealing TNG crew got them all.. lmao jk

When more then one nation wars the same these things happen. But again i think it's time for me to retire from leading. I just don't have the stuff it takes to make clean solid strikes anymore i guess :( My role around here has changed i guess. Need to leave all the planning up to the younger crew and just sit back and attack when needed :) less stress lol.


Join the club that's what I've been doing for about 3 or is it 4 years now!! :thumbup:

[Magalya2]

**Upon hearing Mr President , Lady Mags ponder **

Ahhh Mr President , i am still very new and learning but i sure think you are a good leader ;)

Strange question in a war thread but is there War Commanders usually?? other then the Leader of the clan ??

Like you have the Leader that supervise and give the final decision on teh choice of targets

The War Commander who select targets and prepare the clan

Those who can get IO to help choose targets in war etc ...

I am not in the leading decision but i am a bit curious hehe

Ohh and Mr President , is'nt it of men nature to knock their chests like a Gorilla to show their superiority :rolleyes:

Some use more discretion then others but it is part of the game ;)

awwww , is it grenades i see thrown my way :blink:

I better run for life lol

[northbabylon]

**Upon hearing Mr President , Lady Mags ponder **

Ahhh Mr President , i am still very new and learning but i sure think you are a good leader ;)

Strange question in a war thread but is there War Commanders usually?? other then the Leader of the clan ??

Like you have the Leader that supervise and give the final decision on teh choice of targets

The War Commander who select targets and prepare the clan

Those who can get IO to help choose targets in war etc ...

I am not in the leading decision but i am a bit curious hehe

Ohh and Mr President , is'nt it of men nature to knock their chests like a Gorilla to show their superiority :rolleyes:

Some use more discretion then others but it is part of the game ;)

awwww , is it grenades i see thrown my way :blink:

I better run for life lol


When the game was bigger, USA did have war leaders...Mainly brett and ooga as for as i remember...Dogma and Tnova helped out a bit later on if i am correct.

[Magalya2]

ohh thank you northbabylon for the answer :)

At first i thought it was a grenade coming my way , i apologise for the mistake :p

lol

Edit : You must be one who ahve more discretion ;) lol

[Mr President]

**Upon hearing Mr President , Lady Mags ponder **

Ahhh Mr President , i am still very new and learning but i sure think you are a good leader ;)

Strange question in a war thread but is there War Commanders usually?? other then the Leader of the clan ??

Like you have the Leader that supervise and give the final decision on teh choice of targets

The War Commander who select targets and prepare the clan

Those who can get IO to help choose targets in war etc ...

I am not in the leading decision but i am a bit curious hehe

Ohh and Mr President , is'nt it of men nature to knock their chests like a Gorilla to show their superiority :rolleyes:

Some use more discretion then others but it is part of the game ;)

awwww , is it grenades i see thrown my way :blink:

I better run for life lol


Yes Lady Mags.. Back in the day when USA was full blown we had several commanders who each had a job to do. We had a full cabinet from Vice President to Sec of Homeland Security. Each with duties. We had briefings often and our nation was on top of it's game. Very well organized machine if i do say so myself.

But after the original wow game closed down USA has never been the same. It's a lot harder to run now as i have a lot more duties that tie up my time. :)

Perhaps down the road when we have lots of members again we will put it back like it use to be. But right now it just isn't possible. :(

If you would enjoy some reading you can go to out old USA forums. We had our own constitution and presidential elections ect ect.. It was nice.

http://z8.invisionfree.com/Americas_Forum/index.php?showtopic=199

[northbabylon]

ohh thank you northbabylon for the answer :)

At first i thought it was a grenade coming my way , i apologise for the mistake :p

lol

Edit : You must be one who ahve more discretion ;) lol

please, m'lady call me andy
I am not certain why you say i have more discretion...so i am kinda lost....

[Mr President]

oh yes Lady Mags that reminds me.. We have to have a chat about a certain someone who has been courting you (or tying real hard to at least) that has chosen to war against you..

Now if this someone truly cared for you then i see no reason for him to stand on the other side of the battlefield and try to kill you.. I mean really who does this? This is something we would see on Jerry Springer or something.. :)

[Magalya2]

¸**Whisper in andy right ear **

Because i ahve spoke of the Gorilla you know , those who need to express their superiority knocking their chests but it seems you are not one of them andy ;)

**Hearing Mr President .... **

Wich one are you talking about Mr President :blink:

You mean THE One :blink::blink::blink:

hmmmm :think::

Edit : Now lets see if Mags :think:: have the same signification then Dogma the Pure :think::

[northbabylon]

¸**Whisper in andy right ear **

Because i ahve spoke of the Gorilla you know , those who need to express their superiority knocking their chests but it seems you are not one of them andy ;)

**Hearing Mr President .... **

Wich one are you talking about Mr President :blink:

You mean THE One :blink::blink::blink:

hmmmm :think::

ahh i see. why thank you :)

[Magalya2]

ohh and andy , i forgot , do not worry if you get lost reading me sometime cause i get lost my self a lot too lol

[ooga booga]

When the game was bigger, USA did have war leaders...Mainly brett and ooga as for as i remember...Dogma and Tnova helped out a bit later on if i am correct.

Vice versa :) Tnova and dogma were already there in high positions when I switched my allegiance to USA. I got a higher position when they left. :P Brett was there before I was and remained there when several others left on their own. Ranger and BB also remained in high cabinet positions. Don't want to leave them out. :)

[Divine Intervention]

whilst the score seems close at 8-10 atm, me and my co-leaders decided that unless we brought in outside help the war would prob go much south after 2-4 days. as such we decided to use the surrender feature to even up the fight a bit.

[Cemetary]

yea.. sky is too good but we can defeat the jerry's kids in TNG

[ooga booga]

Wtf? A surrender feature? 3 turn attacks? Jeezes what the fluff else did I miss while I left for 8 months. These new things suck, lol. Is all you lose 25% of NA and NB? So basically you got Sky out for free. :P Nice manuever, don't like the new implementations. :thumbdown:

[Cemetary]

Wtf? A surrender feature? 3 turn attacks? Jeezes what the fluff else did I miss while I left for 8 months. These new things suck, lol. Is all you lose 25% of NA and NB? So basically you got Sky out for free. :P Nice manuever, don't like the new implementations. :thumbdown:

if its any consolation we last more than 4m ships and more than 10m jets :/

[disturbia]

cmon.. i have 2 newbs to train.. they alraedy got to know what ar is and didnt make red turns all the time.. hate this surrender thingy and they were waiting to be important enough to get killed.. grrrrrrrrrrr

[Clowntown]

yea i was looking @ the surrender into in the manual...


If your nation is warred you have the option to surrender after 36hrs from the time war was declared. Surrendering will protect your nation from being warred by the same nation for 168hrs and from other nations for 96hrs.



from the sounds of this SV is protected from all war attacks 4 96 hours



sure puts a dent in plans......



now.. can anyone from that info tell me whats missing?

er PM it pls .. we dont want them figureing it out.

[L P]

Hey Cem, Spoken like a true Daker :clap:

[Cemetary]

yea i was looking @ the surrender into in the manual...


If your nation is warred you have the option to surrender after 36hrs from the time war was declared. Surrendering will protect your nation from being warred by the same nation for 168hrs and from other nations for 96hrs.



from the sounds of this SV is protected from all war attacks 4 96 hours



sure puts a dent in plans......



now.. can anyone from that info tell me whats missing?

er PM it pls .. we dont want them figureing it out.


i didnt know that there was a surrender option until like 2 mins before we declared it, and i didnt know it stops any1 else from warring

[Divine Intervention]

i didnt know that there was a surrender option until like 2 mins before we declared it, and i didnt know it stops any1 else from warring

same.

if SV is able to attack USA and TNG but not vica versa ill speak to the leaders of respective nations about it (because would be kinda cheap of us to attack and not be attacked back).

[blaa]

are you (people from SV) all pussies?

it sure looks like it. dont give a flying **** about ur excuses ("ohhhh, i was so busy changing my tampons so i didnt see what it does")

[nosejam]

same.

if SV is able to attack USA and TNG but not vica versa ill speak to the leaders of respective nations about it (because would be kinda cheap of us to attack and not be attacked back).

I think we can still war you, it just stops new nations declaring war on you. I think what Clowntown was referring to is that you can declare on other nations (which I'm sure you wouldn't in this situation) while they can't declare on you.

[ooga booga]

same.

if SV is able to attack USA and TNG but not vica versa ill speak to the leaders of respective nations about it (because would be kinda cheap of us to attack and not be attacked back).

If you send me your jet count I can do a test AR to see if it works. ;) :P

The way I interpret it is that no other new nations can declare on you. It would be kind of silly to surrender to one nation and then all the sudden the other nations warring you can't attack. Yet again I think the whole feature itself is silly... what clowns voted yes to this suggestion anyway? :P

P.S. If it is that nobody can attack each other does this mean the war is over? lol

[boostah]

whilst the score seems close at 8-10 atm, me and my co-leaders decided that unless we brought in outside help the war would prob go much south after 2-4 days. as such we decided to use the surrender feature to even up the fight a bit.

anton, warset, keep going till your all dead, rebuild and repeat. :p

Btw the surrender option is not very logical :s

[Cemetary]

are you (people from SV) all pussies?

it sure looks like it. dont give a flying **** about ur excuses ("ohhhh, i was so busy changing my tampons so i didnt see what it does")

says someone on the other side of a 3 nation v 1 (4 if u count the 2 man nation) .. yea... we are the pussies...

[Soviet Russia]

lol

[ooga booga]

says someone on the other side of a 3 nation v 1 (4 if u count the 2 man nation) .. yea... we are the pussies...

yeah but if you go by active member count it's almost 1 vs 1. ;) We'd have a few more states though.

Btw don't start a pity party when you put 25 experienced warrers in a nation, tell everyone you are going to war, and then get warred. lol

[disturbia]

i agree its silly.. they surrender.. it doesnt mean we have to accept this.. it would make more sense if they fled or something for x days but surrender without even asking us if we let them?

[Cemetary]

yeah but if you go by active member count it's almost 1 vs 1. ;) We'd have a few more states though.

Btw don't start a pity party when you put 25 experienced warrers in a nation, tell everyone you are going to war, and then get warred. lol

25 experienced warrer? one of our guys only had tanks and agms... and we had our share of inactive members as well... and we only had 23 not 25.. im not starting a pity party, im just pointing out facts, dont call us pussies when we make it an even member count fight

[ooga booga]

25 experienced warrer? one of our guys only had tanks and agms... and we had our share of inactive members as well... and we only had 23 not 25.. im not starting a pity party, im just pointing out facts, dont call us pussies when we make it an even member count fight

1.) I didn't call you a pussie blaa did. ;)
2.) You had 23 members + 2 that jumped in (59, and 35). 23+2 = 25. I hate explaining math to people, lol.
3.) 1 state that is a noob, ok I'll give you that. For the most part though I've been seeing full cooperation from just about your entire nation. Which if I were you I would take that as a compliment. It's hard to get 20 states these days that are war active, that's kudos to your leader/recruitment people.
4.) I know we did have some states advantage, I'm not denying it. :) I just don't think it's as bad as you try to make it out to be. :thumbup:
5.) I have no hard feelings against any SV peeps. The surrender there was a good tactic. I don't like that the tactic is available (or at least make it 50% NA). :laugh:

[Cemetary]

oh i would hate the fact that there's a surrender tactic if i was on the other side.. kinda like when PaIn used the vacation trick to not die and pissed alot of people off

but anyways, we had 25, not including inactives, and u guys also had the fs so.. event though we had turns you guys took out what, 6 states?

[boostah]

oh i would hate the fact that there's a surrender tactic if i was on the other side.. kinda like when PaIn used the vacation trick to not die and pissed alot of people off

but anyways, we had 25, not including inactives, and u guys also had the fs so.. event though we had turns you guys took out what, 6 states?

change your ****ing signature, you dont sound like a dakker anymore :blink:

i would rather die then to see the surrender feature used tbh, especially when stating since last set the nation would be doing a warset.

no offense getting sick of excuses, from both sides.

[Cemetary]

no more excuses.. without sky doing all the work for you, we will win, enough said

[pron]

are you (people from SV) all pussies?

it sure looks like it. dont give a flying **** about ur excuses ("ohhhh, i was so busy changing my tampons so i didnt see what it does")

lol--almost as good as declaring with 2-1 states.

@ ooga--at no point was this war ever 1-1. It started off with I think 36-25. And the side with more people got the FS...

This isn't complaining though--we wanted war. This was a move to even the odds. It's still 23-15 in your favor. You should be able to handle it.

As for everyone lamenting the feature, it actually made a lot of sense when it was implemented--and still makes sense. It was meant for smaller nations to not be wiped out by larger nations (see LOR a few sets back). They put in the feature so that the if a nation gets warred by a much larger nation, they could save some of their states if they lasted 36 hours.

If you want to make it so a nation can't surrender to one part of your alliance, maybe you should ask for a change in the feature, or maybe an alliance feature where the 3 nations declare war together and if a nation surrenders to one, they surrender to all.

Cheers to continuing the war!

[Max Logan]

cmon.. i have 2 newbs to train.. they alraedy got to know what ar is and didnt make red turns all the time.. hate this surrender thingy and they were waiting to be important enough to get killed.. grrrrrrrrrrr

Tag Jump

[nosejam]

i agree its silly.. they surrender.. it doesnt mean we have to accept this.. it would make more sense if they fled or something for x days but surrender without even asking us if we let them?

I agree that surrenders should be accepted by the "winner", surrendering should be an addition to FA not something to be used instead of it.

But it's been done now so nothing we can do. But any Sky states that feel aggrieved, feel free to join TNG and strike from here.

[Devil]

Yet again I think the whole feature itself is silly... what clowns voted yes to this suggestion anyway? :P



That would be people like yourself who are all part of the anti-LoR coalition :)

[Divine Intervention]

So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu

without Sky the war becomes much more balanced. you had the initial advantage of numbers and FS now lets have a more fun war where the outcome isnt 80% already pre-decided. now its more like 60% imo.

i am aware that Sky can have players tag jump into the war..

i understand that for some nations this is their best opportunity to grab some glory for themselves (TNG, MLM) so im sure they will accept some tag jumpers....but im hoping that USA who already has had their fair share of glory will understand that this would make things more fun. you guys still have advantage :)

oh and Sky - as i said through out the war, i have no problems with you guys participating in the FS. i would have done the same in your place & wont be keeping a grudge about it after this set. however sending tag jumpers is another matter.

[disturbia]

So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
- Sun Tzu

without Sky the war becomes much more balanced. you had the initial advantage of numbers and FS now lets have a more fun war where the outcome isnt 80% already pre-decided. now its more like 60% imo.

i am aware that Sky can have players tag jump into the war..

i understand that for some nations this is their best opportunity to grab some glory for themselves (TNG, MLM) so im sure they will accept some tag jumpers....but im hoping that USA who already has had their fair share of glory will understand that this would make things more fun. you guys still have advantage :)

oh and Sky - as i said through out the war, i have no problems with you guys participating in the FS. i would have done the same in your place & wont be keeping a grudge about it after this set. however sending tag jumpers is another matter.

lol, we dont have tagjumpers in our nation.. unlike you.. (no offence) =)

[blaa]

This is such bull****.

You are crying that the war is not fair. While everybody knows that you started this war. Sure, we declared first and got some states dead... but YOU ****ING STARTED IT. Don't know the facts, but by the look of it, SV was started as a warring nation and that's it. And now you cry when others war you? Not fair? **** you.

I started this set thinking to do better than last time, and boy, I did better. Now I had to put up with this crap. Thats not fair either, right?

[Divine Intervention]

This is such bull****.

You are crying that the war is not fair. While everybody knows that you started this war. Sure, we declared first and got some states dead... but YOU ****ING STARTED IT. Don't know the facts, but by the look of it, SV was started as a warring nation and that's it. And now you cry when others war you? Not fair? **** you.

I started this set thinking to do better than last time, and boy, I did better. Now I had to put up with this crap. Thats not fair either, right?

simply put:

we are a war nation. not a suicide nation. yes we planned to war. but not against such odds. feel free to jump over if you feel the need to continue this.

[blaa]

what? How does a suicide nation differ from a warring nation? So you could get some fame and get to the hall of fame board? Nah, suiciders got there too.

I actually like this surrender thing, but that coming from an actual aggressor this time makes it look a bit off.

[ooga booga]

That would be people like yourself who are all part of the anti-LoR coalition :)

I wasn't here when the suggestion was discussed and implemented. I left the game for about 8-9 months. :) Just because I don't like LoR doesn't mean I'd want this feature. ;)

However, Pron brought up some good points defending it. Looks like it has some pro's and con's to it. We got caught on the Con side lol

[Mr President]

yea i was looking @ the surrender into in the manual...


If your nation is warred you have the option to surrender after 36hrs from the time war was declared. Surrendering will protect your nation from being warred by the same nation for 168hrs and from other nations for 96hrs.



from the sounds of this SV is protected from all war attacks 4 96 hours



sure puts a dent in plans......



now.. can anyone from that info tell me whats missing?

er PM it pls .. we dont want them figureing it out.

SV is protected from any other nation declaring on it for 96hrs. Nations who are already at war with them are not effected by this surrender. But after 168hrs SKY can declare back on them. so they only bought themselves a little time.



If you send me your jet count I can do a test AR to see if it works. ;) :P

The way I interpret it is that no other new nations can declare on you. It would be kind of silly to surrender to one nation and then all the sudden the other nations warring you can't attack. Yet again I think the whole feature itself is silly... what clowns voted yes to this suggestion anyway? :P

P.S. If it is that nobody can attack each other does this mean the war is over? lol

It seems silly to you now cause your on this side of the fence. When it was smaller nations getting eaten alive with no chance, it's not so silly. This feature was made to help the smaller nations have a chance. Or those nations who just don't want to war..


no more excuses.. without sky doing all the work for you, we will win, enough said

whoa hold on there.. I wouldn't go that far. USA has pretty much just setting up some kills. We haven't locked on yet. :) Don't make me call in Tnova to plan the strikes out.. :) Be happy you have this old fool who can't keep up.. lol


lol--almost as good as declaring with 2-1 states.

This isn't complaining though--we wanted war. This was a move to even the odds. It's still 23-15 in your favor. You should be able to handle it.

As for everyone lamenting the feature, it actually made a lot of sense when it was implemented--and still makes sense. It was meant for smaller nations to not be wiped out by larger nations (see LOR a few sets back). They put in the feature so that the if a nation gets warred by a much larger nation, they could save some of their states if they lasted 36 hours.

If you want to make it so a nation can't surrender to one part of your alliance, maybe you should ask for a change in the feature, or maybe an alliance feature where the 3 nations declare war together and if a nation surrenders to one, they surrender to all.

Cheers to continuing the war!

Well said!


This is such bull****.

You are crying that the war is not fair. While everybody knows that you started this war. Sure, we declared first and got some states dead... but YOU ****ING STARTED IT. Don't know the facts, but by the look of it, SV was started as a warring nation and that's it. And now you cry when others war you? Not fair? **** you.

I started this set thinking to do better than last time, and boy, I did better. Now I had to put up with this crap. Thats not fair either, right?

lol Blaa you need to settle down a little bit. Your going to stroke out. It's just a game :) But i love the passion :)

SV pulled a fast one on us. They found a feature and they used it. The nice thing about the surrender feature is now that it's been used nobody will remember who won who lost who lived who died.. they will only remember that SV surrendered! :)

This has been a good war though. Lots of action and for the most part pretty clean. Not too many hateful things being said lol

Honestly i think this was great strategy for SV. They have no idea how many other nations were planning hitting them this set. Now they are protected for a few more days. Unless of course members of these other nations join existing war nations. USA has had it's glory days. I still intend to have more of these days in the future too. So for now i will say that if there is any SKY states that want to tag jump they should go to TNG if they still want to fight. This does not include restarts as we will accept them in and also the several USA members we have hiding throughout the game. Our intention was to pull them as needed right from the start. You had to know that was going to happen.

Nice move SV! Well done! :)

[Divine Intervention]

what? How does a suicide nation differ from a warring nation? So you could get some fame and get to the hall of fame board? Nah, suiciders got there too.

I actually like this surrender thing, but that coming from an actual aggressor this time makes it look a bit off.

suicide nation because continuing the war on their prior levels would have most likely ended in certain defeat. this balances things out and makes it a more even and fun war. as i said - feel free to tag jump, i know Unreal Killer would love to take you :).

aggressor? until we declare on someone, we are not the aggressor. in this case - you guys are the aggressors. however, we are not crying victim. we admit that it was your best option and commend you on it. our best option is to surrender and continue what we set out to do - have fun. you are deeply mistaken if you think im doing this for glory. im doing this for a chance to do something new. im surprised more people are not complimenting my decision to break from the mould - have a fun set with lots of LoR players - with an aim to fight against even odds and not bull**** anyone about it :)

[ooga booga]

It seems silly to you now cause your on this side of the fence. When it was smaller nations getting eaten alive with no chance, it's not so silly. This feature was made to help the smaller nations have a chance. Or those nations who just don't want to war..



This feature helps smaller nations, correct. I like features that help smaller nations. However what about 3 turn attacks? Does that not hurt smaller nations? 3 turn attacks means it takes more turns to get a kill, and smaller nations have less turns, making it even harder for war time. Yes it's harder for the larger nations too but if a smaller nation can only take out 1 target at a time wouldn't that benefit the larger nation more? Which can take out multiple targets of the smaller nation at the same time. :) Just food for thought. :D :think::

And I bring this up because you make one feature that helps smaller nations, and bring another feature (which I feel) hurts smaller nations. Seems contradictory. :) (Don't you love it when i give you a hard time lol)

[nosejam]

suicide nation because continuing the war on their prior levels would have most likely ended in certain defeat. this balances things out and makes it a more even and fun war. as i said - feel free to tag jump, i know Unreal Killer would love to take you :).

aggressor? until we declare on someone, we are not the aggressor. in this case - you guys are the aggressors. however, we are not crying victim. we admit that it was your best option and commend you on it. our best option is to surrender and continue what we set out to do - have fun. you are deeply mistaken if you think im doing this for glory. im doing this for a chance to do something new. im surprised more people are not complimenting my decision to break from the mould - have a fun set with lots of LoR players - with an aim to fight against even odds and not bull**** anyone about it :)

Break from the mould? You've basically just remade LoR, not something many people would compliment you for, and it would appear for once the community wasn't going to take the normal gangbang handed out by their superior numbers.

From what I've gathered of your posts and of your other members you would have voted on one nation, destroy it then choose another ad nauseam or until you had no-one left alive. If anything not bull****ting about it placed you in the very position you found yourself in.

[Divine Intervention]

lol, we dont have tagjumpers in our nation.. unlike you.. (no offence) =)

no offence taken, because:

as i said - my aim wasnt glory, its having fun :) i didnt plan for whole set long war trying to get maximum number of kills. i didnt put spies in any nations. i didnt put tag jumpers in any nations. the people who joined us were:

1) someone who wanted to net the whole set but then decided to volunteer his help (1 day before he joined) - for which i am very grateful

2) someone who volunteered his help several hours before he joined.

[Mr President]

This feature helps smaller nations, correct. I like features that help smaller nations. However what about 3 turn attacks? Does that not hurt smaller nations? 3 turn attacks means it takes more turns to get a kill, and smaller nations have less turns, making it even harder for war time. Yes it's harder for the larger nations too but if a smaller nation can only take out 1 target at a time wouldn't that benefit the larger nation more? Which can take out multiple targets of the smaller nation at the same time. :) Just food for thought. :D :think::

And I bring this up because you make one feature that helps smaller nations, and bring another feature (which I feel) hurts smaller nations. Seems contradictory. :) (Don't you love it when i give you a hard time lol)

The 3 turn attacks work both ways. :) And yes feel free to give me a hard time. I'm use to it.. Man no respect from the youngens anymore.. lmao


Break from the mould? You've basically just remade LoR, not something many people would compiment you for, and it would appear for once the community wasn't going to take the normal gangbang handed out by their superior numbers.

From what I've gathered of your posts and of your other members you would have voted on one nation, destroy it then choose another ad nauseam or until you had no-one left alive. If anything not bull****ting about it placed you in the very position you found yourself in.

What everyone has seen this set is nations are tired of being victims. They are tired of sitting around wondering day after day if they will be hit or not. So this set they just said the heck with it we will take care of the threat on our terms. This is what needed to happen when people didn't like what LoR was doing. So it's nice to see... SV this would have happened to LoR this set if they were here. You just filled that spot as all. :)

[pron]

Break from the mould? You've basically just remade LoR, not something many people would compiment you for, and it would appear for once the community wasn't going to take the normal gangbang handed out by their superior numbers.

From what I've gathered of your posts and of your other members you would have voted on one nation, destroy it then choose another ad nauseam or until you had no-one left alive. If anything not bull****ting about it placed you in the very position you found yourself in.

Not true--we were looking for a fair fight, and all the votes were for Sky and USA to be declared on at the same time. The numbers would have been 23-25 at the time of declaration in favor of SKY/USA.

As for remaking LOR, that's not true. LOR would have warred 4 days into the set, not 15 lol. We also wouldn't have voted on it in the nation forums. This nation is big like LOR, but that's where the similarities end.

[disturbia]

no offence taken, because:

as i said - my aim wasnt glory, its having fun :) i didnt plan for whole set long war trying to get maximum number of kills. i didnt put spies in any nations. i didnt put tag jumpers in any nations. the people who joined us were:

1) someone who wanted to net the whole set but then decided to volunteer his help (1 day before he joined) - for which i am very grateful

2) someone who volunteered his help several hours before he joined.

i have nothing against those tagjumpers.. u seemed to need a little help anyway =)
but please stop mentioning that we can tagjump. cos its not an option for us =)

[Divine Intervention]

Break from the mould? You've basically just remade LoR, not something many people would compiment you for, and it would appear for once the community wasn't going to take the normal gangbang handed out by their superior numbers.

From what I've gathered of your posts and of your other members you would have voted on one nation, destroy it then choose another ad nauseam or until you had no-one left alive. If anything not bull****ting about it placed you in the very position you found yourself in.

thats because you are not fully aware of the situation and neither are they. i asked them which 1 nation they wanted to war however i would have taken top 2 results (which i admit would most likely have been Sky and USA - hence i have no problems with them hitting us). at no point would i have agreed to simply over power by numbers and i can provide message history logs with my co-leaders to prove this.

IF YOU ARE THAT DESPERATE.

none of the LoR members who i have in my nation have a bad image. Pron, Satan, Nat22, Will, etc - all respected members of the community. why are you making it sound so bad? would you have preferred it if i had bugged my netting friends out of retirement instead and have them join? would that have changed anything?

[pron]

The 3 turn attacks work both ways. :) And yes feel free to give me a hard time. I'm use to it.. Man no respect from the youngens anymore.. lmao

I don't think the 3 turn attacks were meant to give smaller nations a shot. It was more of the fact that the FS was deciding the entire war, and there was discussion about that. If we moved war attacks to 3 turns, it gave nations a chance to fight back (as you're seeing with SV). If we had 2 turn attacks, we would have lost probably 8 guys the first day, and another 6 the next, effectively ending the war before it began.

[ooga booga]

I don't think the 3 turn attacks were meant to give smaller nations a shot. It was more of the fact that the FS was deciding the entire war, and there was discussion about that. If we moved war attacks to 3 turns, it gave nations a chance to fight back (as you're seeing with SV). If we had 2 turn attacks, we would have lost probably 8 guys the first day, and another 6 the next, effectively ending the war before it began.

Hmmm, that's the 2nd good point you've had in the last hour or so. Stop doing that you're killing my arguments, lol. :laugh:

[pron]

lol--sorry, still <3 you

[Divine Intervention]

Not true--we were looking for a fair fight, and all the votes were for Sky and USA to be declared on at the same time. The numbers would have been 23-25 at the time of declaration in favor of SKY/USA.

As for remaking LOR, that's not true. LOR would have warred 4 days into the set, not 15 lol. We also wouldn't have voted on it in the nation forums. This nation is big like LOR, but that's where the similarities end.

thank you for pointing that out. i dont know how LoR functions so wouldnt have been able to do the same :)

to the ppl making us out to be big bad guys. i repeat - our intention was never to over power anyone through sheer force of numbers. if anyones interested, PM me and ill consider telling you how we would have done things if it was our way and id be very surprised if any one would have had some thing negative to say about it (other than the general dislike of being warred when you want to net).


now hers a question to you - what would you guys do if there was a set where there was no LoR, WLF or my tag...and Mr P made a thread saying that next set USA will war and it gained 20 members? cos if anything SV is run more like USA than LoR :) (and obviously uses less dirty tactics than both ;) ...spies...hidden USA members over the place eh :p ;) ;) jks)

[nosejam]

thats because you are not fully aware of the situation and neither are they. i asked them which 1 nation they wanted to war however i would have taken top 2 results (which i admit would most likely have been Sky and USA - hence i have no problems with them hitting us). at no point would i have agreed to simply over power by numbers and i can provide message history logs with my co-leaders to prove this.

IF YOU ARE THAT DESPERATE.

none of the LoR members who i have in my nation have a bad image. Pron, Satan, Nat22, Will, etc - all respected members of the community. why are you making it sound so bad? would you have preferred it if i had bugged my netting friends out of retirement instead and have them join? would that have changed anything?

Capitals don't make it true.

You shouldn't have a problem with anyone hitting you, every nation was on the possible target list. It's good that you didn't intend to overpower by numbers that's just how it came across. I'm making it sound bad because even with that 25 v 25 war you guys would have probably run out quite comfortable winners if you had the FS and you're on the other side to me, it's like my job to make the community be on my side :)

[Divine Intervention]

Capitals don't make it true.

You shouldn't have a problem with anyone hitting you, every nation was on the possible target list. It's good that you didn't intend to overpower by numbers that's just how it came across. I'm making it sound bad because even with that 25 v 25 war you guys would have probably run out quite comfortable winners if you had the FS and you're on the other side to me, it's like my job to make the community be on my side :)


If anything not bull****ting about it placed you in the very position you found yourself in.

i have no problem with being hit. it was fun war. but for us it would be more fun to fight an even war . secondly 23 vs 25 and thirdly if you honestly want to, i can tell you on MSN what my plan for this set was. you wouldnt be able to make me out to be a bad guy :)

oh and regarding the capitals - i wasnt capitalizing the fact that i have the msn history logs to prove it (im pretty sure), rather the fact that you seem so desperate to try and make me out to be a bad guy :)

[nosejam]

firstly 23 vs 25 and secondly if you honestly want to, i can tell you on MSN what my plan for this set was. you wouldnt be able to make me out to be a bad guy :)

oh and regarding the capitals - i wasnt capitalizing the fact that i have the msn history logs to prove it (im pretty sure), rather the fact that you seem so desperate to try and make me out to be a bad guy :)

Which is exactly what I was referring to, I'm not desperate at all. But you seem so desperate to make everyone to see you as a good guy I thought I'd even it up.

[Divine Intervention]

Which is exactly what I was referring to, I'm not desperate at all. But you seem so desperate to make everyone to see you as a good guy I thought I'd even it up.

ah, well great misunderstanding between then, so lets stop the argument cos: you cant expect to seem like a good guy when you want to war, in a game where everyone wants to net. rather - that im a fair guy. and im not desperate - im not posting anything on the forums nor will i be telling the plans to everyone who asks about them. if someone asks me and i consider them worth telling ill them.
:spam::

[Mr President]

So if SKY and USA were on the list to war why did you surrender to SKY and not TNG?

Your plans included both USA and SKY so why wouldn't you surrender to TNG?
So basically your saying you can't beat SKY but you can beat USA and TNG? I find that insulting. :) And here we have been taking it pretty easy on your too.. huh.

lol Anton i don't think your the bad guy. You made your intentions very clear. We all saw them and we all figured our nation would be hit by you at one point or another.. So what were we all suppose to do? Hide in the corner and hope you don't see us? 1 vs 1 you would have beaten all of us. You have a dang good amount of warrers in your nation this set. Take a look through USA and tell me how many regular USA members do you see? Not many. That is cause we have been training new members. And now they were ready to be trained for war.. Against some of the best no less lol..

I took all of this to mind when figuring out the numbers. Yes we have more numbers but you can't really count it. You remember how it is to train new people on warring.. now take that and my old age into consideration and USA is a very small threat lol.

Now give me all the regular USA members and i will put USA up against any nation :)

But i have one other question.. Why USA? Why would you plan to attack a training nation? We have made it clear that we are training and we have stayed out of everything the past few sets.. So why would you just go off and war us? You say your not in it for the glory so what other reason do you have? I did plan on contacting you this set anyway and asking if we could take the last week of the set and have a small war so i could get the new ppl exp in warring, but USA was on your list long before that.. :(

Why don't you go pick on people your own age.. lmao! jk

[Divine Intervention]

So if SKY and USA were on the list to war why did you surrender to SKY and not TNG?

Your plans included both USA and SKY so why wouldn't you surrender to TNG?
So basically your saying you can't beat SKY but you can beat USA and TNG? I find that insulting. :) And here we have been taking it pretty easy on your too.. huh.

lol Anton i don't think your the bad guy. You made your intentions very clear. We all saw them and we all figured our nation would be hit by you at one point or another.. So what were we all suppose to do? Hide in the corner and hope you don't see us? 1 vs 1 you would have beaten all of us. You have a dang good amount of warrers in your nation this set. Take a look through USA and tell me how many regular USA members do you see? Not many. That is cause we have been training new members. And now they were ready to be trained for war.. Against some of the best no less lol..

I took all of this to mind when figuring out the numbers. Yes we have more numbers but you can't really count it. You remember how it is to train new people on warring.. now take that and my old age into consideration and USA is a very small threat lol.

Now give me all the regular USA members and i will put USA up against any nation :)

But i have one other question.. Why USA? Why would you plan to attack a training nation? We have made it clear that we are training and we have stayed out of everything the past few sets.. So why would you just go off and war us? You say your not in it for the glory so what other reason do you have? I did plan on contacting you this set anyway and asking if we could take the last week of the set and have a small war so i could get the new ppl exp in warring, but USA was on your list long before that.. :(

Why don't you go pick on people your own age.. lmao! jk

most of those questions have already been answered or can be answered by me on MSN if you want (regarding why Sky, why not TNG, why USA, regarding numbers and most other questions) - i am perfectly happy to answer them to you, but dont feel the need to explain it to everyone who reads this forum :)

and im sure your spy told you that i didnt expect you to sit in a corner. infact i was offering large credit bonuses to my players (1b, 600mill, 400mill) and other such similar prizes because i was aware that other nations were preparing much faster than us. and one thing about n00bs thats better than expereinced players is that they are much more willing to listen to commands about how to run their states. i always advise my players on how to run their states better but at the end of the day some make their own choices (e.g. getting more infantry than needed really, not having jets or agm. or spies.. etc)...as i said its about fun i wont be forcing them to do things they dont want ;)

[Missionary]

i agree its silly.. they surrender.. it doesnt mean we have to accept this.. it would make more sense if they fled or something for x days but surrender without even asking us if we let them?

there should be something in place when the winning nation has to accept the surrender of the other.

[Mrmcjoey15]

most of those questions have already been answered or can be answered by me on MSN if you want (regarding why Sky, why not TNG, why USA, regarding numbers and most other questions) - i am perfectly happy to answer them to you, but dont feel the need to explain it to everyone who reads this forum :)

and im sure your spy told you that i didnt expect you to sit in a corner. infact i was offering large credit bonuses to my players (1b, 600mill, 400mill) and other such similar prizes because i was aware that other nations were preparing much faster than us. and one thing about n00bs thats better than expereinced players is that they are much more willing to listen to commands about how to run their states. i always advise my players on how to run their states better but at the end of the day some make their own choices (e.g. getting more infantry than needed really, not having jets or agm. or spies.. etc)...as i said its about fun i wont be forcing them to do things they dont want ;)

dont listen to him. he looks at TNG sees the 5 members under 1mil NW and says hey look easy kills that will make it look as though were winning.

though i dont blame him. Farmer warring is quite stupid in my mind.

[nosejam]

dont listen to him. he looks at TNG sees the 5 members under 1mil NW and says hey look easy kills that will make it look as though were winning.

though i dont blame him. Farmer warring is quite stupid in my mind.

It's not bad if your stuff actually sells. We're lucky food is selling as well as it is this set.

Keep buying food people.

[Mrmcjoey15]

It's not bad if your stuff actually sells. We're lucky food is selling as well as it is this set.

Keep buying food people.

Ehh Cahser/indy farmer still is better. though there i have to watch my food sooooo maybe not

[Divine Intervention]

dont listen to him. he looks at TNG sees the 5 members under 1mil NW and says hey look easy kills that will make it look as though were winning.

though i dont blame him. Farmer warring is quite stupid in my mind.

erm no. today was the first day I even bothered looking at TNG. we had only 2 players available and both had full turns but low time availability so we decided to kill an active stocker.

[pron]

So if SKY and USA were on the list to war why did you surrender to SKY and not TNG?

Your plans included both USA and SKY so why wouldn't you surrender to TNG?
So basically your saying you can't beat SKY but you can beat USA and TNG? I find that insulting. :) And here we have been taking it pretty easy on your too.. huh.

Numbers game--
2 Skycati armee[Sky] $122.118.649 $9.393.742 $34.023.990 $8.505.998 4 100.571 7.736 13
3 America[USA] $105.804.895 $7.053.660 $0 $0 0 89.711 5.981 15
9 The Next Generation[TNG] $37.999.630 $4.749.954 $19.348.639 $3.224.773 6 48.220 6.028 8

1 Shock Value[SV] $138.117.309 $9.207.821 $59.742.217 $6.638.024 9 106.197 7.080 15
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If we surrendered to TNG, it would still be 2x the members and networth than us. If we surrender to SKY--networth is about the same, and you have an 8 player advantage. It was about finding that fair fight...

As for warring USA when you're a training nation, I'd say it's difficult to call you a training nation when you have the 2nd largest population and you were contending for 1st place in nation scores. And just because you have new warrers doesn't mean that they don't contribute. In the numbers game, they probably function at 75% of a veteran--you tell them to build all jets, and they make a few mistakes, but they still land 75% of their AR's if not more. Hell--maybe even more AR's than you land when you SA instead of AR prez :P

We're just looking for that fair fight--we think we've got it now. Seems like you think so too as you don't want tag jumpers in USA. If we were looking to really move things in our favor, we could have surrendered to both SKY and TNG, and then just took on USA.

[Max Logan]

what is USA`s pass?

[Divine Intervention]

what is USA`s pass?

i fully endorse this. i didnt realize people would get so upset over this. plus im sure Max wants to AR me :P (my state is so **** because ive had so many red turns in a row :((( )

[pron]

It's not a lot of people--just some sky people who died in fighting and want us wiped off the map for it.

[disturbia]

It's not a lot of people--just some sky people who died in fighting and want us wiped off the map for it.

u take our top1..so basically we have nothing to net for :) we have nothing to lose.. and my n00bs are hungry for warring :) 7 days is not that long =) just hope there is someone still alive in SV...

[Max Logan]

u take our top1..so basically we have nothing to net for :) we have nothing to lose.. and my n00bs are hungry for warring :) 7 days is not that long =) just hope there is someone still alive in SV...

wasn`t it 4 days?

[Divine Intervention]

u take our top1..so basically we have nothing to net for :) we have nothing to lose.. and my n00bs are hungry for warring :) 7 days is not that long =) just hope there is someone still alive in SV...

thats fair enough. i do admit i do feel bad about hitting Blaa (cos his state wasnt geared for war but i wasnt sure what his intentions are)...but im sure some of your players do want to net (i know some havent made any attacks) - try to put them away to another tag so we dont hit them by mistake when you guys do redeclare.

@ Max - no other nation can declare on us for 3 days. Sky cant declare for 1 week. i think the action should be renamed "Truce" and then have something like this:

1) use it - if opponent accepts - you lose 25% NA and 1 week protection from opponent + 3 days from others
2) use it - if opponent rejects - you lose 50% NA and (either same as above - or altered. depends how strong the voice of those pissed of with using this tactic are ;)).

[Max Logan]

There should be a great loss for surrender. Just surrender and protection sounds...well

A large nation, like LoR used to be, around 50 people, could easily avoid being warred by a coalition, if the surrender is just for the sake of no attacks and some small lose of stuff

[Divine Intervention]

i think it depends how you use it. if we had felt that we could take on Sky, USA & TNG at the same time in a fair fight we wouldn't have used it. if sky reenters in 1 week as i said i have no problems with that...id fancy our odds better then because the numbers would have been more even for longer.

[disturbia]

try to put them away to another tag so we dont hit them by mistake when you guys do redeclare.

how many times i have to say, we dont have tagjumpers. all for one and one for all. simple as that. :D but its nice that u cant declare on us. atleast one good thing about this surrender thingy



1) use it - if opponent accepts - you lose 25% NA and 1 week protection from opponent + 3 days from others
2) use it - if opponent rejects - you lose 50% NA and (either same as above - or altered. depends how strong the voice of those pissed of with using this tactic are ;)).

alot better

[Mr President]

dudes go to bed... do you not have a life? Do you not need to sleep? lmao

nice blocks.. least we didn't waste to many turns this time :)

[boostah]

dudes go to bed... do you not have a life? Do you not need to sleep? lmao

nice blocks.. least we didn't waste to many turns this time :)

agreed, its ok to try and safe your state, but tbfh, your all beeing abit freakasly about it (ok, it works i'm not going to say anything else, but i wonder how big the glasses and zits on the faces of people who do that are)

just joking :p

[pron]

Well, we wanted to war and war well, so that means active states and good communication :)

Also, I'm just listening to my prof talk, so what else am I supposed to do?

[Cemetary]

yea and im just playing modern warfare 2

and this was the worst week for you guys to hit me.. i have today and tomorrow off, then the owners of the restaurant im a manager at are going out of town so i can get on whenever needed at work.. but o well

i did wanna comment on this though:



2) use it - if opponent rejects - you lose 50% NA and (either same as above - or altered. depends how strong the voice of those pissed of with using this tactic are ;)).


that idea would need better tweaking.. I would reject everytime.. either way i can't war them for a week but if i reject they lose 25% more na..

EDIT:
I did also like this

9 Mayor Fluffer(#42) [SLOB] 20.179 $20.964.347 -
10 The White House(#2) [USA] 7.860 $19.394.264 *
11 Eriador(#18) [WANT] 15.370 $18.811.580 -
12 EscapeVelocity(#55) [ABT] 17.812 $18.545.975 -
13 SnowWworld(#75) [Sky] 15.669 $18.399.342 -
14 Corellia(#50) [SE] 15.475 $18.395.498 *
15 ThE CeMeTaRy(#13) [SV] 8.765 $17.860.042 *

I wonder which states are currently warring.. our land is FTW pres

[boostah]

Well, we wanted to war and war well, so that means active states and good communication :)

Also, I'm just listening to my prof talk, so what else am I supposed to do?

ah k, that understandable, i'm talking more about hte euro's that come online at this hour. If someone should wake me because my state at nation-wars was beeing killed, well i would be pissed too, but only at the person that woke me

[boostah]

that idea would need better tweaking.. I would reject everytime.. either way i can't war them for a week but if i reject they lose 25% more na..

true that, make it no war for rest of set, 50% NA loss

why only NA btw, if a nation surrenders to one other nation like SV did this set, states should be hit too. (its like real life to be honest), not by too much (else surrender would be a dumb idea)

also i would like to state that USA did finally get a kill, off course when a dakker was helping (only one though, you freaks :p)

[Divine Intervention]

ah k, that understandable, i'm talking more about hte euro's that come online at this hour. If someone should wake me because my state at nation-wars was beeing killed, well i would be pissed too, but only at the person that woke me

what are you doing at this hour?

atm im with 3 friends smoking, watching 24 and staying up all night doing my essay due in for Thursday (2 of them also have essays due in)...no complaining from the SV people too so its all good ;)

im 38 hour vigilance for next 44 hours ;)

im connected to internet at all locations at all times this week so pick your timings wisely ;)

[Cemetary]

what are you doing at this hour?

atm im with 3 friends smoking, watching 24 and staying up all night doing my essay due in for Thursday (2 of them also have essays due in)...no complaining from the SV people too so its all good ;)

im 38 hour vigilance for next 44 hours ;)

im connected to internet at all locations at all times this week so pick your timings wisely ;)

me and anton are actually one person

[boostah]

what are you doing at this hour?


lol good question, i have exams, so my biorithm is completly ****ed, studying at night some times, other times just days and so on :p

cem: shizofrenic is still 1 persons, that's against the rules i'll get mr p to delete both your states :p (**** that would be a big help :p)

[Divine Intervention]

lol good question, i have exams, so my biorithm is completly ****ed, studying at night some times, other times just days and so on :p

cem: shizofrenic is still 1 persons, that's against the rules i'll get mr p to delete both your states :p (**** that would be a big help :p)

haha i know what you mean. the worst for me is when the boredam and the need for work makes you sleep crazy schedules fuelled by caffeine in various forms of intake. only a good night of alcohol puts the rhythm in order for me...like yesterday (thanks for not killing me that night btw ;) had no internet access for 12 hours :D).

[boostah]

haha i know what you mean. the worst for me is when the boredam and the need for work makes you sleep crazy schedules fuelled by caffeine in various forms of intake. only a good night of alcohol puts the rhythm in order for me...like yesterday (thanks for not killing me that night btw ;) had no internet access for 12 hours :D).

aaah alcohol, thats for after the exams (+ it my birthday during exams, so afterwards i will need to get double wasted, that will be fun :d)

[pron]

Drinking is of the Devil. Right Devil???

[Mrmcjoey15]

Tonite Anton and his crew tried desperately to defeat the mighty Hymen (##) but alas the equipment they brought to penetrate the very lips of my being were all to small to pop..the cherry.

LOL i had to if its to inapropriate ill edit but i had to it was to funny.

[northbabylon]

Tonite Anton and his crew tried desperately to defeat the mighty Hymen (##) but alas the equipment they brought to penetrate the very lips of my being were all to small to pop..the cherry.

LOL i had to if its to inapropriate ill edit but i had to it was to funny.

i think it would be easier to say that antons weewee was too small to break the hymen

[nosejam]

haha i know what you mean. the worst for me is when the boredam and the need for work makes you sleep crazy schedules fuelled by caffeine in various forms of intake. only a good night of alcohol puts the rhythm in order for me...like yesterday (thanks for not killing me that night btw ;) had no internet access for 12 hours :D).

I turned my computer off all last night in the hope you guys would kill me, I'd like to get down to some revision with a normal sleeping pattern, sigh.

[Max Logan]

me and anton are actually one person

I knew it!
It`s was odd when Cem tried to hit on me...

[Divine Intervention]

I turned my computer off all last night in the hope you guys would kill me, I'd like to get down to some revision with a normal sleeping pattern, sigh.

im always willing to help a fellow Brit out mate. PM your army - once it sells TNG will get the tax + we will kill you and you can revise. otherwise we will leave you till last, making sure we cant kill you but that you have no one to support your strikes and that you will always be distracted from revision :P the choice is yours ;)

[Mrmcjoey15]

i think it would be easier to say that antons weewee was too small to break the hymen

wasnt as poetic...

[Soviet Russia]

good game good war:thumbup:

[huntington91]

fun stuff.:thumbup:

[Cemetary]

as WANT's numbers dwindle to the onslaught of SV's jets the battl....

wait, we aren't warring WANT... oh, sike, they are all in USA now

[Divine Intervention]

Cem its cool :)

the bar keeps getting raised a bit higher but its all good.

[boostah]

as WANT's numbers dwindle to the onslaught of SV's jets the battl....

wait, we aren't warring WANT... oh, sike, they are all in USA now

idd, funny **** (didn't know either :p)

[Mr President]

So for now i will say that if there is any SKY states that want to tag jump they should go to TNG if they still want to fight. This does not include restarts as we will accept them in and also the several USA members we have hiding throughout the game. Our intention was to pull them as needed right from the start. You had to know that was going to happen.

Nice move SV! Well done! :)

i clearly announced that this was going to happen.. Crimson started in USA but left.. Why put all our eggs in the same basket? Let's not pretend that this is a new trick :)

[BeeNo]

considering they took on tag jumpers as well who cares? not to mention when i total'd alive states the numbers were in SV's favor and still are.

[Mr President]

considering they took on tag jumpers as well who cares? not to mention when i total'd alive states the numbers were in SV's favor and still are.

hmm that is true.. they got a nice NW and turn boost from #59...

shame on you for being hypocritical.. :)

[Cemetary]

considering they took on tag jumpers as well who cares? not to mention when i total'd alive states the numbers were in SV's favor and still are.

yea we took on two tag jumpers when war started, after we were outnumbered and hit first, not when we were afraid of losing... and how did you tally up the live states?

SV - 13 members


USA - 16 members
TNG - 9 members
MLM - 3 members

and lets not forget, in 5 days sky will be able to hit us again..

Sky - 13 members

So, as of today i see the count 13 states to 28 states
In a week, 13 states to 41, unless we are able to do some massive handiwork while our states are slowly killed off

[BeeNo]

in those numbers cemetery your counting all the restarts/really late starts of TNG and USA.

i count:

10 USA in top 100
4 TNG in top 100
2 MLM in top 100

and

12 SV states in top 100

when i checked last night numbers were in SV's favor

[Cemetary]

i forgot.. usa and tng play with 2 active players

by the way.. i just did the calculations... 8 of our players have missed out on 400+ turns a few of those r barely over 1000... but you are right, we all are 100% active and have used every turn given us..

EDIT:
Lets also take a look at these rankings shall we...

6 Eriador(#18) [USA] 15.944 $23.700.860 -
7 Modern Warfare 2(#56) [USA] 10.604 $21.865.090 *
8 The White House(#2) [USA] 7.571 $21.501.275 *
9 Riverside(#83) [TNG] 9.886 $21.410.271 -
10 so watch out(#80) [MLM] 15.117 $21.216.662 -
14 ThE CeMeTaRy(#13) [SV] 8.765 $19.777.901 *
17 Razorlite(#97) [USA] 14.627 $18.130.387 -

These are the current top 20 states involved in the war (not including the dead USA and Sky states)

I see... 1 sv member... 6 players who are warring SV

[Mrmcjoey15]

take inventory at the beggining of a war not at the end..

[boostah]

I see the whining continues, making excuses when you didn't even loose, really what's the point in that?

Explain it please i'm really lost on this one.

jadijadijada we were outnumbered, well try and win (and you were doing good at that tbfh, although most breakers were down since yesterday), if not die trying not whining. That's how you gain respect, not by whining (and this goes out to both before one thinks i'm aiming for them)

[Divine Intervention]

im not whining

it was enjoyable war.

@ BeeNo - one was without a tag ;) and one was in a 1 man tag. neither were in SVs plans at start of set :)

[nosejam]

im not whining :)

it was fun war.

As far as I'm concerned I still expect a strike from you while we still have war declared on you, I wasn't online last night for any talks, but accepting peace from you without declaring it back is asking for trouble imo.

[Divine Intervention]

nah i told Mr P i wont be attacking you guys. im a man of my word :)

[disturbia]

take inventory at the beggining of a war not at the end..

Cem just wants to prove that SV sucks.. if i was the leader of sv i would kick him for such things lol

@ Cem: Show some respect to your nation!! its not that pathetic as u are trying to make it look ;)

[Divine Intervention]

Cemetary has always been a valuable member and has helped me lead plenty of times. i would never kick him just because you have some disagreements on forums.

[boostah]

have to admit, respect to sky for running such a tight pack, killing someone with 5 turn attacks, crazy ****s :think::

dont know if they violated a cease fire or something like that (if yes well then that throws of what i said before :p)

[ooga booga]

have to admit, respect to sky for running such a tight pack, killing someone with 5 turn attacks, crazy ****s :think::

dont know if they violated a cease fire or something like that (if yes well then that throws of what i said before :p)

Yeah Sky killed 2 states with 5 turn attacks that's crazy, lol.

I would guess they weren't even aware of the USA/TNG Ceasefire since we all figured Sky couldn't attack and nobody probably told them. Either that or they just felt like warring anyway, haha. Either way they have been pretty impressive this set. They are usually known for high inf netting and not so much warring, but I must say they really did well this set. :)

[Soviet Russia]

Stop *****ing. What SV did needs great courage. They could war 1v1 for each nation but instead and for fun, they decided to fight them all.

It was not about winning, it was for fun. Unfortunately, I died before striking :thumbup:

[BeeNo]

sky can war when they want to, i remember a super awesome nation FS'ing them awhile back and them battling back and winning the war ;)

[Divine Intervention]

have to admit, respect to sky for running such a tight pack, killing someone with 5 turn attacks, crazy ****s :think::

dont know if they violated a cease fire or something like that (if yes well then that throws of what i said before :p)

not really. after i spoke with Mr P yesterday night, i didnt bother checking GE till today when i logged in to find that i was dead. Credit for killing players with 5 turns attacks but something to keep in mind - one of SVs greatest strenghts - my willingness to dedicate myself fully to the war & the survival of each and every state had at that point ended. maybe thats what Sky were waiting for :P good plan ;) otherwise they would have just wasted loads of turns :D we set out what we wanted to do and we did it succesfully.

everyone here is *****ing and crying but at the end of the day it boils down to this:

SV was made as a war nation and didnt hide this. We could have. I could have said that im making a nation to win set, wouldnt have told any of my members the warring plans then made some bull**** excuse to hit whoever we wanted one by one without warning.

that however is lame and not fun.

my vision for the set was for Shock Value to go down in flames because at no point did i intend to fight a battle where we were going to be sure winners. if at some point the fight would have seemed to be obviously going to our favour - we would have expanded the war to make it more fair. there wasnt a 'must win & finish top at all costs' mentality, strategy and tactics that people have come to so dearly associate with me :p

now, just because SV was made as a war nation and has lots of very experienced warrers in its ranks doesnt mean its the pinnicale of warring ability. we have our limits. We planned to take on numbers/odds which were obviously bigger than us. However the opposite happened. We stood our ground as much as we could and took out as many states as we could.

Just because we wanted to war doesnt mean we automatically are fine with loosing/accelerating our demise - hence us making strategic surrender to Sky. We knew would continue fighting to the end - so why not make it harder for them?

Since i have no interest in committing myself to an all set war (never was intention in first place ) & coupled with the fact that the offer was made at a time when i wanted to commit myself to something else, me and Mr P agreed to peace.

I have no problems with the nations FSing us, nor the outcome of the war. i think both sides did well. i think this is the biggest war with the least amount of mud slinging/**** swining by its participants (except ill admit my earlier spat with TNG and w/e Cem is arguing with other ppl about) plus i dont think anyone can truly feel upset about it.

Regarding to Sky posters arguments with Cem - again ill reiterate - Cem is expressing his views on the war, not SVs as a whole or even all its leadership im not really sure what you guys are arguing about tbh...skipped all of it - all i can say is that on the outside looking in, things are never as they seem :)


At the end of the day without SV this set we would have most likely been looking at much much much lower player activity & another set of Sky infantry whoring to top1 :P. Im glad to see EX/nball/SE/Asbestos filling up the top. it makes for a nice change :)

i think i covered eveything :)?

[Missionary]

would give you rep for that but it wont let me lol.

have to say i like this new attitude anton lol. n dammit.......they managed to kill you? we tried so many times before unsuccessfully lol.

p.s. have read like 5 posts in this whole thread. to much random rubbish.......wheres the mods now a days. never happened in my day :D hehe

[Divine Intervention]

would give you rep for that but it wont let me lol.

have to say i like this new attitude anton lol. n dammit.......they managed to kill you? we tried so many times before unsuccessfully lol.

p.s. have read like 5 posts in this whole thread. to much random rubbish.......wheres the mods now a days. never happened in my day :D hehe

dont feel bad. you can't kill that which has no life ::oops:

oh and i was asked on msn: why war this set if i couldnt commit all set? simple answer: 1/3 of the set i didnt have Uni & was hoping that wouldnt have too much work 2/3 of it (WRONG) and assumed there would be peace 3/3 of it :). That 1/3 at start of set is about as good as it gets for the next couple of months for me :(

[nosejam]

I don't care what Anton says, his entire set was a failure as I wasn't killed. (If you kill me because of this post it doesn't count)

[Divine Intervention]

thats cause you're always the biggest fish in the TNG pond :p This time you had a few sharks swimming next to you which needed taking care of first :D

[ooga booga]

would give you rep for that but it wont let me lol.

have to say i like this new attitude anton lol. n dammit.......they managed to kill you? we tried so many times before unsuccessfully lol.

p.s. have read like 5 posts in this whole thread. to much random rubbish.......wheres the mods now a days. never happened in my day :D hehe

Says the guy that always invades other people's warring threads and talks rubbish constantly. :P

And nicely said Anton. Surprised it even went to 24 pages considering there wasn't too much arguing going on. :) I hope we were able to bring the fun set you were looking for. I think it was a good challenge for both sides and I think it was pretty even throughout even at the conclusion of the war. You guys stonewalled well and did a commendable job. I like these kind of wars better than wars full of anger and arguing.

[Shabaz K]

thier is still the matter with MLM.

[Divine Intervention]

guess Sky isnt the only nation that can kill states using 5 turn attacks :P was uber hard. great admiration for those who went the extra mile to secure this kill ;). boy, does it take a lot of turns though :(

[Mrmcjoey15]

guess Sky isnt the only nation that can kill states using 5 turn attacks :P was uber hard. great admiration for those who went the extra mile to secure this kill ;). boy, does it take a lot of turns though :(

anything sky can do anton can do better
anything sky can anton trys to.

no one likes a copy cat.

[northbabylon]

not really. after i spoke with Mr P yesterday night, i didnt bother checking GE till today when i logged in to find that i was dead. Credit for killing players with 5 turns attacks but something to keep in mind - one of SVs greatest strenghts - my willingness to dedicate myself fully to the war & the survival of each and every state had at that point ended. maybe thats what Sky were waiting for :P good plan ;) otherwise they would have just wasted loads of turns :D we set out what we wanted to do and we did it succesfully.

everyone here is *****ing and crying but at the end of the day it boils down to this:

SV was made as a war nation and didnt hide this. We could have. I could have said that im making a nation to win set, wouldnt have told any of my members the warring plans then made some bull**** excuse to hit whoever we wanted one by one without warning.

that however is lame and not fun.

my vision for the set was for Shock Value to go down in flames because at no point did i intend to fight a battle where we were going to be sure winners. if at some point the fight would have seemed to be obviously going to our favour - we would have expanded the war to make it more fair. there wasnt a 'must win & finish top at all costs' mentality, strategy and tactics that people have come to so dearly associate with me :p

now, just because SV was made as a war nation and has lots of very experienced warrers in its ranks doesnt mean its the pinnicale of warring ability. we have our limits. We planned to take on numbers/odds which were obviously bigger than us. However the opposite happened. We stood our ground as much as we could and took out as many states as we could.

Just because we wanted to war doesnt mean we automatically are fine with loosing/accelerating our demise - hence us making strategic surrender to Sky. We knew would continue fighting to the end - so why not make it harder for them?

Since i have no interest in committing myself to an all set war (never was intention in first place ) & coupled with the fact that the offer was made at a time when i wanted to commit myself to something else, me and Mr P agreed to peace.

I have no problems with the nations FSing us, nor the outcome of the war. i think both sides did well. i think this is the biggest war with the least amount of mud slinging/**** swining by its participants (except ill admit my earlier spat with TNG and w/e Cem is arguing with other ppl about) plus i dont think anyone can truly feel upset about it.

Regarding to Sky posters arguments with Cem - again ill reiterate - Cem is expressing his views on the war, not SVs as a whole or even all its leadership im not really sure what you guys are arguing about tbh...skipped all of it - all i can say is that on the outside looking in, things are never as they seem :)


At the end of the day without SV this set we would have most likely been looking at much much much lower player activity & another set of Sky infantry whoring to top1 :P. Im glad to see EX/nball/SE/Asbestos filling up the top. it makes for a nice change :)

i think i covered eveything :)?

i love how i am my own nation :P

[Satan666]

would give you rep for that but it wont let me lol.

have to say i like this new attitude anton lol. n dammit.......they managed to kill you? we tried so many times before unsuccessfully lol.

p.s. have read like 5 posts in this whole thread. to much random rubbish.......wheres the mods now a days. never happened in my day :D hehe

I know the feeling... well except i never got to mod anything that anyone caused any problems with.

[Divine Intervention]

i love how i am my own nation :P

thats cos the rest of your nation is in USA :tongue:::laugh:#
jks

[nosejam]

Says the guy that always invades other people's warring threads and talks rubbish constantly. :P

And nicely said Anton. Surprised it even went to 24 pages considering there wasn't too much arguing going on. :) I hope we were able to bring the fun set you were looking for. I think it was a good challenge for both sides and I think it was pretty even throughout even at the conclusion of the war. You guys stonewalled well and did a commendable job. I like these kind of wars better than wars full of anger and arguing.

People just love talking about TNG :thumbup:

[Missionary]

i love how i am my own nation :P

your the only 1 in WANT.......arnt you? :S

[Soviet Russia]

Mods are sleeping. I report #2 in every set, nothing happens

[ooga booga]

Mods are sleeping. I report #2 in every set, nothing happens

I just send #2 threatening messages every set that I'm going to kill his state but he just ignores me. :( Oh sure, his U.S. intelligence can tell Anton's nation will hit us, but the old bloke just calls my bluff every set. One of these days... one of these days. :P lol

[northbabylon]

your the only 1 in WANT.......arnt you? :S

I have ranger, bretts recruit and fade2black in my nation. I only have 1 state that jumped to USA. And that was Crimson.

[MAGGIO]

so who won? Looks like SV did pretty good considering. Even though it looks like them throwing in the towel they put on a pretty good show.

[pron]

Don't know if there was a clear cut winner. Kills were pretty even when peace was finally declared.

Sky is apparently still wanting to be idiots. They FS us, we surrender, and they are still warring us lol. Bad form if you ask me.

[Mr President]

There are no winners or losers.. All nations are calling this a "Military Exercise".

:)

[Disorder]

There are no winners or losers.. All nations are calling this a "Military Exercise".

:)

I like the sound of that.. good one!

[disturbia]

Don't know if there was a clear cut winner. Kills were pretty even when peace was finally declared.

Sky is apparently still wanting to be idiots. They FS us, we surrender, and they are still warring us lol. Bad form if you ask me.


we never accepted this surrender.

[Lord Burch]

Don't know if there was a clear cut winner. Kills were pretty even when peace was finally declared.

Sky is apparently still wanting to be idiots. They FS us, we surrender, and they are still warring us lol. Bad form if you ask me.

Dude, to me, that's the sane choice. Let me make this clear. For THE REST OF THE ROUND MLM will ruin you guys!

[Soviet Russia]

we never accepted this surrender.

Thats why it is not a peace :( You blood thirsty Estonians :P

[blaa]

We tried to net this set, now when you initated this encounter we have nothing else to do than war you.

I love the SV statements btw, keep em' coming.

[pron]

Dude, to me, that's the sane choice. Let me make this clear. For THE REST OF THE ROUND MLM will ruin you guys!

Nation: MLM Networth Killed: $10.533

You keep ruining us lol