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Dogma
05-12-2008, 12:13
Just a reminder, Land dropping is an effective war attack, however, just because you are at war and land dropping your target, that does not give your nation member the right to land drop anyone else that he feels is a ripe target. Ali, your land dropper committed acts of war against at least 5 nations, I don't see LOR surviving long or even being on the scores list by the end of the set. If you are going to run a war nation, you may want to let your nation members know that they are not to make war attacks on 5 nations at a time when you are being attacked.

Dumb Move :confused:

pron
05-12-2008, 12:22
Just saw that Dogma.

It's his first war--we used him as land dropper, and I guess person explaining land dropping to him forgot to mention to be careful when landgrabbing afterwards.

Sent a message to him.

jeff_capes
05-12-2008, 12:48
It's his first war--we used him as land dropper, and I guess person explaining land dropping to him forgot to mention to be careful when landgrabbing afterwards.

Looks a bit more to me. You say it he should go careful after landdropping but this is more than that. There are AA's here then SA's and from 3 states I can see. Now unless this was a 'jumper' or you typed the wrong state no. this was a little naughty. That is a lot of attacks and Not a couple of grabs after!

AA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 1.743.378 Military Units 15:33:32-2008/05/12
AA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 1.826.645 Military Units 15:32:42-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 1.912.791 Military Units 15:22:56-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.004.097 Military Units 15:22:42-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.098.314 Military Units 14:40:29-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.195.119 Military Units 14:08:12-2008/05/12
AA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.297.819 Military Units 13:36:13-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.407.178 Military Units 13:34:30-2008/05/12
SA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 1.285 Land, 7 Science, $425.435, 3.801 Food 13:34:24-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.528.491 Military Units 13:34:08-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.648.896 Military Units 13:33:47-2008/05/12
SA OnlyJet(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 1.584 Land, 8 Science, $438.593, 3.839 Food 13:33:12-2008/05/12
SA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 3.440 Land, 8 Science, $452.158, 3.878 Food 13:32:06-2008/05/12
AA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.792.200 Military Units 13:32:00-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 2.925.469 Military Units 13:31:23-2008/05/12
AA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 3.084.934 Military Units 13:31:06-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 3.232.599 Military Units 13:30:57-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 3.387.333 Military Units 13:30:32-2008/05/12
AA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 3.549.473 Military Units 13:30:08-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 3.719.374 Military Units 13:29:45-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 3.897.407 Military Units 13:29:17-2008/05/12
AA Death City(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 4.083.963 Military Units 13:28:17-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 4.279.448 Military Units 13:28:00-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 4.484.290 Military Units 13:27:29-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 4.698.938 Military Units 13:26:37-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 4.923.860 Military Units 13:26:17-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 5.159.548 Military Units 13:25:50-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 5.406.518 Military Units 13:25:25-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 5.665.309 Military Units 13:24:39-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 5.936.488 Military Units 13:24:04-2008/05/12
AA Die Hard(#)[LoR] Knight Rider(#)[USA] 6.220.647 Military Units 13:23:30-2008/05/12

Dogma
05-12-2008, 12:53
First, were you guys at war with USA? I haven't seen a declaration. And the AA's on a USA state make it even worse. DUH If you weren't you are now.

So now LoR is up to suiciding top states? as this was nothing but a suicide attack ion USA, unless you just forgot to Declare war first.

But I was talking about your land dropper look at the GE again, I didn't state any state names and your FA sees them and realizes that there was a major screw up on LoR's part for making war attacks on more than one nation.

It would be best that you investigate your facts more carefully before you post next time.

Missionary
05-12-2008, 13:05
went they the states that were in the HIV tag for most the set?

Darkness
05-12-2008, 14:02
Kill the LOR states that did it, yes i am in LOR and i think they are a bunch of morons, like get a grip, we are warring EE not everyone you think might be a target.
I hate it when people dont listen in WarChats and just go on to do whatever they want to. Just want to get up and strangle them :mad:

Hey X i think i need some cookies:mellow:

MAGGIO
05-12-2008, 14:03
just a speculation with no evidence, but it could be an insurgent in LOR trying to get the USA to declare so that EE is not killed off? I wouldnt put it past .EE?

Dogma
05-12-2008, 14:06
What about the war attacks on the other 3 nations? I see illegal land drops on TNG, Doom and deli. What abou their members? Should those nations not retaliate for the stupidity of others? This seems like a failure in leadership of the nation. Am waiting to see what comes from those attacks.

Guy77
05-12-2008, 14:21
I can't wait to land drop dogmas state for the next three sets

That is what i going to come from these attacks

We know how to run a war, and we have some new players, i am sure it will be dealt with, stop your whining dogma, it was not like every member of lor was attacks those nations, it was a few players who are a. new or b. being killed by you w/ the permission from our leaders

I think you just like to start trouble, and i don't like it

Mr President
05-12-2008, 14:26
I can't wait to land drop dogmas state for the next three sets

That is what i going to come from these attacks

We know how to run a war, and we have some new players, i am sure it will be dealt with, stop your whining dogma, it was not like every member of lor was attacks those nations, it was a few players who are a. new or b. being killed by you w/ the permission from our leaders

I think you just like to start trouble, and i don't like it

The way you are talking in this post, you are making it sound like Dogma is part of USA this set.. He isn't.. remember, ooga is now Sec of State.. just wanted to clear that up.. :p

And regardless of permission from your leaders or not, those states were going to die. You don't just go in and ruin a top state and get away with it.
But LoR leadership contacted me quickly and assure me that they had nothing to do with these attacks. Which i thank them for that..

Guy77
05-12-2008, 14:31
I realise he is not a part of the USA

as he was addressing ALL of the nations that were hit =P But he was still concerned w/ the hits on USA

That dosn't mean i'm not going to land drop in in the next three sets :-P

And i agree that you can't ruin someones top 10 state and get away w/ it, but isn't it you who is always promoting talking to leaders to work out retals? ( Even if that retal is killing the state)

If i had a nation, and you declared and killed someone w/o permission, i'd probably suicide, or war you, imho that is how it should go down

Mr President
05-12-2008, 14:41
Of course i encourage talking with nation leaders about illegal attacks prior to just going in and killing them. I was just saying, that if leaders of LoR refused to legally allow USA to kill them, we would have come in after them anyway..

But the leaders of LoR contacted me quickly and didn't even ask what i wanted to do. They 100% agreed that it was wrong and offered them up no questions asked...

I have no problems with how LoR handled this situation..

and of course, no disrespect guy77 :P

Guy77
05-12-2008, 14:54
=P the G is capitol ;)

And of course LoR leaders handled it correctly, LoR is teh sh1t =)

i'm just sayin he is starting trouble lol

Dogma
05-12-2008, 14:58
Hey, I don't have a Dog in this hunt, I wasn't hit and Guy if you want to get me, go right ahead. If you can find me :P

I was merely pointing out how Lor screwed up big time this set. Before asking a new person to do something, maybe it would be a good idea to explain how and what to do, before you set him off.

Plus I was not addressing USA states, Mr P is quite capable of taking care of his own business. The only reason I said anything about USA states, notice your nation members post to me immediately prior to my post. My main point in this is that maybe before you put someone in to do a job, tell him what the job is. So, therefore I see it as LoR's leadership tht failed, not a new player who didn't know what he was doing to start with.

ooga booga
05-12-2008, 16:53
=P the G is capitol ;)

And of course LoR leaders handled it correctly, LoR is teh sh1t =)

i'm just sayin he is starting trouble lol

LoR is the sh!t??? HA! I have so much I want to say about LoR and their leadership but I will refrain myself. Mr. P can praise your leadership and you can think they are great, but you will definitely hear no such things from my posts. :thumbdown: The fact that you think your nation is so amazing though really amuses me. So amazing you let in a bunch of viet suiciders. Bah, I won't even get into it.

Max Logan
05-12-2008, 17:20
Those HIV states were viets, so don`t wonder. And I bet Ali knew, as they didn`t bother to hide the flags, atleast at the begining.

Nice move from LOR guys again to get rid of competition! But I guess it backfired as Kanny ain`t finishing up there for another set! lol

Dogma
05-12-2008, 19:44
I can't wait to land drop dogmas state for the next three sets

That is what i going to come from these attacks

We know how to run a war, and we have some new players, i am sure it will be dealt with, stop your whining dogma, it was not like every member of lor was attacks those nations, it was a few players who are a. new or b. being killed by you w/ the permission from our leaders

I think you just like to start trouble, and i don't like it


But, I can promise you this, I wouldn't care if you were in the arms of Christ Himself, if you do find me and try that, your state will die, often.

Now, if you are looking to make a new enemy, that can be arranged for you. I have no problem killing you every set. And Guy, I think you know me well enough that asking for mercy gets you nothing from me.

So, consider what you are wishing for. My state dying makes no difference, I can kill you with restarts, as you saw in the old game. You are not "all that and a bag if chips". Your state is expendable. A preemptive strike against a threat is not outside my realm of things I believe in, and I know where you are.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. :w00t:

pron
05-12-2008, 20:31
@ Capes--60 and 62 weren't land droppers. They were suiciders in our nation that weren't in our warchats or directed by us. USA and LOR leadership has come to an agreement, and Prez is no longer as mad and LOR is happy we didn't find another nation to war since we got one twice our size.

@ Dogma--We talked about this in MSN. WTF are you running your mouth in the forums about this? That's really disrespectful to me, especially in light of the fact that you're seeing this as a failure in LOR leadership. And the fact that you seem to be running your mouth about how bad this is for LOR. I've contacted the leaders of the other nations, so it's time for you to shut your mouth on this topic. Especially since you weren't one of the states hit. Bad marks to you.

Dogma
05-12-2008, 22:31
Be Careful how you go that route. This could really backfire on you. I have only been commenting on ppl commenting on me. And you know, maybe I will change my game play, so you guys can get a good dose of your own medicine.

If you are telling me that a member of your nation didn't know how to do what your leadership wanted of him, whose fault is that? Mine?I don't think so. Was it his fault? You already said it wasn't. So, who is to blame? Me?

Maybe I can give you something to blame me for. I'll see what I can come up with.

@Pron you need to get your people to watch who they threaten or it could cost Lor more than they bargained for. I was responding to your member making threats as he think LoR is "teh sh1t" when it clearly screwed up. I will respond to threats and I don't care if you like it. :P

Xavior
05-12-2008, 22:36
****, i can't be stuck behind Pron and Guy. Make me first! :D

Max Logan
05-12-2008, 22:46
****, i can't be stuck behind Pron and Guy. Make me first! :D

you`re in! :)

And Pron, relax baby! You`re making trouble only for yourself here

Hoebawt
05-12-2008, 23:58
His trouble ant only his....

Max Logan
05-13-2008, 04:39
the bad boy is here! I`m gonna call my dad! :o

lmao, that **** ain`t working hoey

Guy77
05-13-2008, 10:38
Be Careful how you go that route. This could really backfire on you. I have only been commenting on ppl commenting on me. And you know, maybe I will change my game play, so you guys can get a good dose of your own medicine.

If you are telling me that a member of your nation didn't know how to do what your leadership wanted of him, whose fault is that? Mine?I don't think so. Was it his fault? You already said it wasn't. So, who is to blame? Me?

Maybe I can give you something to blame me for. I'll see what I can come up with.

@Pron you need to get your people to watch who they threaten or it could cost Lor more than they bargained for. I was responding to your member making threats as he think LoR is "teh sh1t" when it clearly screwed up. I will respond to threats and I don't care if you like it. :P


I threatened you, LoR did not, i believe there is a big difference there. And LoR is Teh Sh1t and i will continue to believe so until you prove otherwise.

I threatened you because you complain and run your mouther about peoples leadership on the forums and i don't like it. Go ahead, hunt me down, i won't be alone. I will come straight for you, and if i can't find you, i'll find someone else to take it out on for not being able to find you. (And i know you'll have some silly comment about this, and i don't care. People will die because Dogma is a coward ;) )

pron
05-13-2008, 11:36
Be Careful how you go that route. This could really backfire on you. I have only been commenting on ppl commenting on me. And you know, maybe I will change my game play, so you guys can get a good dose of your own medicine.

If you are telling me that a member of your nation didn't know how to do what your leadership wanted of him, whose fault is that? Mine?I don't think so. Was it his fault? You already said it wasn't. So, who is to blame? Me?

Maybe I can give you something to blame me for. I'll see what I can come up with.

@Pron you need to get your people to watch who they threaten or it could cost Lor more than they bargained for. I was responding to your member making threats as he think LoR is "teh sh1t" when it clearly screwed up. I will respond to threats and I don't care if you like it. :P

Here's the thing Dogma--I do respect you. But you come on the forums, after talking to me on MSN about this, and start talking crap about LOR leadership. Seems like you're going behind my back on this one and trying to make me look bad when you know that I'm working to correct it. Am I to respect you for "Defending yourself" when you clearly attacked LOR leadership in your third post--and LOR leadership wasn't even being attacked before it in a post? That's not defending yourself--that's throwing accusing statements.

I hope you defend yourself on the forums when you attack someone--that's why my only reply in my 2nd post was that you stop talking about LOR leadership. You asked "What about the war attacks on the other 3 nations? I see illegal land drops on TNG, Doom and deli. What abou their members? Should those nations not retaliate for the stupidity of others?" What's really funny is that I ALREADY HAD GIVEN YOU AN ANSWER TO THAT IN MSN. But you still come on the forums and ask the same question. Are you not believing what I had to say? Do you not trust what I say Dogma? Or are you trying to stir the pot by asking these in the forums??? That's where we differ on what you've done in this thread.

Dogma
05-13-2008, 11:43
If you think it is you that I am undercover from then ok, iflate your own ego, that is ok with me. I understand that some ppl have to do that in order to feel good. Is it working? I certainly hope so.

hahaha, this is so funny, little man, as you are doing exactly as I hoped someone would do. These forums were getting a little boring so I thought I would add some excitement, Thank from all that have enjoyed you little rants. At least you are entertaining. :P :P

This whole threaad started out as just a reminder to let ppl know that those attacks aren't legal and ya'll took it and ran with it.

If ppl die, ppl die. It is a war game, but just remember, as so elequently exibited by your own nation this set, ppl remember from set to set, so you wanna start taking out states, be my guest. I have a feeling it won't be just me that has a bone to pick with you in the future.

Max Logan
05-13-2008, 13:41
I threatened you, LoR did not, i believe there is a big difference there. And LoR is Teh Sh1t and i will continue to believe so until you prove otherwise.

I threatened you because you complain and run your mouther about peoples leadership on the forums and i don't like it. Go ahead, hunt me down, i won't be alone. I will come straight for you, and if i can't find you, i'll find someone else to take it out on for not being able to find you. (And i know you'll have some silly comment about this, and i don't care. People will die because Dogma is a coward ;) )

I wanna see this one ;)

Guy77
05-13-2008, 13:58
You'll see it =P Don't worry

Obviously not this set as my hands are full with the war on EE

but in sets to come, people will pay

Dogma
05-13-2008, 14:11
I got $$$

Guy77
05-13-2008, 14:14
Dogma i do accept personal checks ya know

;)

Dogma
05-13-2008, 15:08
How bout nickles?

Guy77
05-13-2008, 17:15
I mean if you really want to pay me in all nickels that is fine, but is more than 4 lbs. of change is used there is an addition 55$ surcharge for handling purpouses =)

Dogma
05-13-2008, 17:22
Ok, then rubles, or pesos, Hoebawt can help you with those.

Morph
05-13-2008, 20:00
If you think it is you that I am undercover from then ok, iflate your own ego, that is ok with me. I understand that some ppl have to do that in order to feel good. Is it working? I certainly hope so.



liar...youre hiding for me :P

Dogma
05-13-2008, 20:01
No, I am hiding FROM you

Xavior
05-14-2008, 01:44
No, I am hiding FROM you

It was a real crap job of hiding, considering I knew even before the set started where you were... :blink:

Dogma
05-14-2008, 01:49
1755 Pake Ave.
Mobile Alabama, 36605

Guy77
05-14-2008, 08:00
*sends dogma spam mail*

LOL

DBozMen
05-14-2008, 17:44
Killing landdroppers:

You have killed ImperialRed(#43)

You destroyed a total of 26 land.
You lost 138 Jets.
Your Nation lost 69 Jets.
Your enemy lost 4.098 Jets and 2 AGM.


The first time i just missed him by seconds, the second time i had him.

Guy77
05-14-2008, 23:42
Nice Job DBOZ

pron
07-22-2008, 12:31
Just a reminder, Land dropping is an effective war attack, however, just because you are at war and land dropping your target, that does not give your nation member the right to land drop anyone else that he feels is a ripe target. Ali, your land dropper committed acts of war against at least 5 nations, I don't see LOR surviving long or even being on the scores list by the end of the set. If you are going to run a war nation, you may want to let your nation members know that they are not to make war attacks on 5 nations at a time when you are being attacked.

Dumb Move :confused:

SA Moradon(#)[EoS] Mysterons(#)[FW] 4.073 Land, $173.120.925, 112.576 Food 07:03:54-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Emmaus II(#)[HORDE] 1.061 Land, $10.330.616, 1.835 Food 14:46:44-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Malafir(#)[UFS] 516 Land, $691.932, 12.471 Food 14:53:07-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Emmaus II(#)[HORDE] 953 Land, $9.854.295, 1.139 Food 14:52:28-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Malafir(#)[UFS] 1.040 Land, $713.332, 12.597 Food 14:47:57-2008/07/22

Moradon goes and grabs after he gets AR'ed down, and then Viali goes and grabs after landdropping me again. Odd how I don't hear anything out of Dogma on this issue when he's on their side of this war...

You guys planning on letting these nations retal these war attacks?

Mahdi
07-22-2008, 12:33
from inside... HORDE is at war already so they are a viable target...

UFS and FW idk bout

pron
07-22-2008, 12:39
Last time I checked, Horde wasn't at war with Dak...

How does it make it ok?

Divine Intervention
07-22-2008, 12:55
*wonders whether to bring up all the land drops LoR did on other nations this set*
*obviously since all of LoR are dead now, i can't go back more than 72 hours to copy and paste them in this thread*

Dogma
07-22-2008, 13:18
Nevermind the fact that we were not at war 2 months ago when I started this thread, but can you dig any deeper and find another thread in the grave to dig up and ***** about?

pron
07-22-2008, 13:23
Oh Dogma, this isn't Bs'ing. These are states that are warring and are grabbing outside of the states they are at war with after landdropping/getting AR'ed.

I believe that was your original contention (as the landdropping that you were talking about in this thread was indeed when we were at war with EE).

Good cop out though. I suppose it's not that big of a deal 2 months after the fact, and also when you're on the side that's doing the landdropping :P

Dogma
07-22-2008, 13:45
Jesus Christ, I guess next you'll ***** about the sunshine? **** man, get a life.

pron
07-22-2008, 13:47
I do like a rainy day.

It's just funny how quickly things change in 2 sets.

Dogma
07-22-2008, 13:53
I do like a rainy day.

It's just funny how quickly things change in 2 sets.

Things haven't changed in 2 sets, its just that I wasn't the one landdropped in your post. If it had be ME, I would have said something, but it wasn't so who gives a ****. Let them ***** for themselves.

pron
07-22-2008, 13:55
Were you the one landdropped 2 sets ago?

Dogma
07-22-2008, 14:03
yes i was

KLL
07-22-2008, 14:13
Oh Dogma, this isn't Bs'ing. These are states that are warring and are grabbing outside of the states they are at war with after landdropping/getting AR'ed.

I believe that was your original contention (as the landdropping that you were talking about in this thread was indeed when we were at war with EE).

Good cop out though. I suppose it's not that big of a deal 2 months after the fact, and also when you're on the side that's doing the landdropping :P
who was Viali gonna grab after you all decided to drop dead?
also grabbing after gettign ARed is an act of survival. not punishable in my book.

Dogma
07-22-2008, 14:15
who was Viali gonna grab after you all decided to drop dead?
also grabbing after gettign ARed is an act of survival. not punishable in my book.

Which is why when I started this thread 2 MONTHS ago, all I did was to remind that person that it wasn't legal, yes he was trying to survive and I understood what he was doing. I have no clue why Pron thougth it necessary to ***** about it now.

pron
07-22-2008, 14:16
Odd how the thread develops into a "Lor is gonna get it for landdropping 5 nations" and now you're telling me not to bring it up cause I wasn't the one landdropping. Unless you're running multi's in 5 nations 2 sets ago, I'm seeing a double standard here.

@ KLL--that's the price of war. If you get AR'ed down, you don't make some other nation suffer so you can get your state back on track. If all the enemy is dead and your state is hurting, you expand/build. Not grab some other nation.

nosejam
07-22-2008, 14:17
Yeah grabbing after being Ar'd I can live with, it would mighty piss me off, obviously I would prefer for them to grab people they are at war with(I was praying none of those guys in the top ten grabbed me) but I could live with it. Wouldn't be the same if they were landdroppers and wanted to get land back.

But saying that, Dak did try to get FW to join the war by pointing out a LoR member grabbing one of us claiming he was a landdropper, whe all he had been was Ar'd and hadn't gone attacks for two days prior to the grab.

KLL
07-22-2008, 14:24
Odd how the thread develops into a "Lor is gonna get it for landdropping 5 nations" and now you're telling me not to bring it up cause I wasn't the one landdropping. Unless you're running multi's in 5 nations 2 sets ago, I'm seeing a double standard here.

it didn'T really turn into that kinda thread as that was the original point of the thread was it not? and As you can see DOOM is not involved in this is it not? How can it be that Dogma is havign double standards then?


@ KLL--that's the price of war. If you get AR'ed down, you don't make some other nation suffer so you can get your state back on track. If all the enemy is dead and your state is hurting, you expand/build. Not grab some other nation.in the 4 years i palyed this game, i've never seen someone get killed for that. And mind you I have always grabbed after getting ARed, which wasn'T that seldom.

Oh btw, remember how LoR landdropped a EoS state before they were at war? And I'm pretty sure I can remember antoher LoR state grabing a THIK state after landdropping. Whos got double standards now? You'Re just lucky THIK isn't a real warrig nnation, otherweise you'D have more ARing your arses

pron
07-22-2008, 14:31
Yea, you're right. I suppose I shouldn't bring it up cause LOR did it. Oh wait, you guys brought it up then too didn't ya?

And my original post was that I was waiting for Dogma to bring it up how if EOS and Dak keep this up then there will be hell to pay in future sets etc etc

KLL
07-22-2008, 14:34
Yea, you're right. I suppose I shouldn't bring it up cause LOR did it. Oh wait, you guys brought it up then too didn't ya?

And my original post was that I was waiting for Dogma to bring it up how if EOS and Dak keep this up then there will be hell to pay in future sets etc etc

I really REALLY can't see why Dogma should care what EoS or DAK states are doing unless it involves killing LoR.

pron
07-22-2008, 14:42
What about the war attacks on the other 3 nations? I see illegal land drops on TNG, Doom and deli. What abou their members? Should those nations not retaliate for the stupidity of others? This seems like a failure in leadership of the nation. Am waiting to see what comes from those attacks.

Seems to care here.

Why isn't he asking same thing of EoS and Dak?

KLL
07-22-2008, 14:43
Seems to care here.

Why isn't he asking same thing of EoS and Dak?

Why do you actually are or are you jsut beeign a **** for the sake of it?
Seriuosly.. wtf

pron
07-22-2008, 14:47
Run out of good arguments KLL?

KLL
07-22-2008, 15:08
Run out of good arguments KLL?

Uh... arguments about what exactly?
What the **** are you actualy on to?
All i can see is some pissy guy pointing fingers at Dogma for somethign he has nothing to do with for reasons only you can comprehend.

Mahdi
07-22-2008, 15:26
pron is upset cuz his state was pretty much ****ed but didnt die... and wow did you see me *****ing when kll was dieing and he grabbed me for land? no i only complained when he went into vacation mode cuz it was a waste of my land and even then it was jokingly...

Mr President
07-22-2008, 15:43
I guess the easy answer would be, he doesn't like LoR so he is going to point out more against them then someone he does like.

People are allowed to not like other nations.. :D


But of course, this is only my 2 cents and doesn't carry any weight.. I just haven't posted yet today.. :dblthumbup:

Dogma
07-22-2008, 15:58
hell I haven't even posted that much in the war forums, I don't know why he picked me to be a dumbass with. But, whatever, go ahead, show your ***, it makes me no nevermnd.

KelpKris
07-22-2008, 17:35
SA Moradon(#)[EoS] Mysterons(#)[FW] 4.073 Land, $173.120.925, 112.576 Food 07:03:54-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Emmaus II(#)[HORDE] 1.061 Land, $10.330.616, 1.835 Food 14:46:44-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Malafir(#)[UFS] 516 Land, $691.932, 12.471 Food 14:53:07-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Emmaus II(#)[HORDE] 953 Land, $9.854.295, 1.139 Food 14:52:28-2008/07/22

SA Mucho Dinero never forgets(#)[DAK] Malafir(#)[UFS] 1.040 Land, $713.332, 12.597 Food 14:47:57-2008/07/22

Moradon goes and grabs after he gets AR'ed down, and then Viali goes and grabs after landdropping me again. Odd how I don't hear anything out of Dogma on this issue when he's on their side of this war...

You guys planning on letting these nations retal these war attacks?
And how the heck is it called land drop if you guys AR me and I try to save my ***.

Dogma
07-22-2008, 17:37
And how the heck is it called land drop if you guys AR me and I try to save my ***.

Agreed, and I did some thinking on this. When I wrote this thread, 2 months ago, LOR had someone doing land dropping for them and while he was hitting his target, he hit me as well. I posted it and then Pron and I talked it out after the fact. I didn't try and punish him for it till they hit us later in the set. I don't know why he went nuts on this one.

You did the only thing you could do to survive. No one blames you for it.

Max Logan
07-22-2008, 19:35
Pron, you need to seriously look at your values!

SmarT
07-22-2008, 20:05
i figure if your a LD and u hit someone ur not at war with to get your land back... well thats a risk you take... if the nation that gets hit doesnt like, do something about it... if a LD in a war that doesnt evolve dak hits us.. we then we will handle it according to DAK's Policy

KLL
07-22-2008, 20:10
Pron, you need to seriously look at your values!

doubt he'll have much to look at there...

KelpKris
07-22-2008, 21:25
... well thats a risk you take...
Certain death or some pointless risk.
I go for the option 2 :P
I just happened to be stronger and took the right to use my strength for 1 SA, don't see no problems here :)

pron
07-23-2008, 00:23
I guess the easy answer would be, he doesn't like LoR so he is going to point out more against them then someone he does like.

People are allowed to not like other nations.. :D


But of course, this is only my 2 cents and doesn't carry any weight.. I just haven't posted yet today.. :dblthumbup:

Point I was making exactly.

Just playing with the doggy, that's all lol. He was giving me crap 2 sets ago through this thread, so I brought it back up and gave him crap. Funny how the rest of them overreacted lol.

And I'll probably do it again in another 2 sets.

pron
07-23-2008, 00:24
I just happened to be stronger and took the right to use my strength for 1 SA, don't see no problems here :)

Except when LOR does this, 6 nations call us bullies and war us for a set. :blink:

Dogma
07-23-2008, 00:25
Except when LOR does this, 6 nations call us bullies and war us for a set. :blink:


you bully

pron
07-23-2008, 00:33
you bully

You're a prop table.

pron
07-23-2008, 00:35
TBH though--it seems that we're not so different after all. The mistakes of the king of the hill will always be magnified and scrutinized. Resulting in a group of people seeking vengeance for "bullying". Yet, when that group of players takes over, they will make the same mistakes, these mistakes will be magnified, and they'll be seen as the bullies.

It happens.

Tnova
07-23-2008, 00:40
We certainly tried to keep it one on one, how ever lor brought in jag jumpers and AF. So pardon me while i don't offer any sympathy.

What i don't understand is, dogma made the post because it happened to our nation at the time. The perceived offense is just that perceived,something that was judged by the individual as a wronging. Now if dogma was going around doing it then your recent posts in this thread would have some validity.

pron
07-23-2008, 00:54
Have you read this thread from beginning to end? Maybe I misinterpreted it, so let me give you the full story of what I see happening.

Dogma makes this thread because LOR guy attacked him and a couple other nations after landdropping. Dogma then calls upon these nations to not sit idly by while this happens, and expects them to get up in arms about it. I see a Dak guy attack several other nations (not me cause I had no land for him lol), and I say "Hey, you guys shouldn't sit idly by while this happens." And I'd expect them to get up in arms about it. However, when I say it, I get blasted cause LOR did it.

I already know LOR did it. See my responses and the FA I did with the nations afterwards.

Point being--we both did it, but somehow when I bring it up my point isn't valid because I'm LOR?

Double standard.

Dogma
07-23-2008, 01:00
I wen tthru and re read the whole thread and I don't see were I called on anyone to arm against lor, All I see is that I simply stated that it wasn't right. And Pron, we got that straight when it happened, so why is this such an issue now?

pron
07-23-2008, 01:03
doubt he'll have much to look at there...

lol--yea, cause you know me so well.

I guess since I'm in LOR I can't have values lol.

pron
07-23-2008, 01:15
I wen tthru and re read the whole thread and I don't see were I called on anyone to arm against lor, All I see is that I simply stated that it wasn't right. And Pron, we got that straight when it happened, so why is this such an issue now?


I don't see LOR surviving long or even being on the scores list by the end of the set.

Should those nations not retaliate for the stupidity of others?

ppl remember from set to set, so you wanna start taking out states, be my guest. I have a feeling it won't be just me that has a bone to pick with you in the future.

Even these?


Hey, I don't have a Dog in this hunt, I wasn't hit

Didn't you say you were the one hit since I brought this back up?


This whole threaad started out as just a reminder to let ppl know that those attacks aren't legal
But apparently I can't bring it up unless it's LOR doing these attacks.

Dogma
07-23-2008, 01:20
Even these?



Didn't you say you were the one hit since I brought this back up?


But apparently I can't bring it up unless it's LOR doing these attacks.

Yes you are absolutely correct, you can't bring it up unless LoR is doing it

pron
07-23-2008, 01:32
Ok. That was all I needed to hear.

Mod can close thread now lol

viali
07-23-2008, 03:00
pron if u carefully look at the states I farmed tyou will notice both had GB ruined because they were jets heavy and besize that they had only 1 hit on them last 36 h.those targets werent chose randomly.I thought about what I am doing.So I would have got 1k land from them even if I had 4 k land not 600.

Hoebawt
07-23-2008, 03:13
SO u intentionaly Landdropped states that u werent at war wit k coo

viali
07-23-2008, 05:08
:huh:since LoR is the only nation that we are warring what am I supose to do?land drop states under protection or just expand from 200 land to 1 k so u can be satisfied?:wall:

and some people might not understand..so I'll explain again..the states I chose to get my land back would have lost that land anyway.I didnt chose states with 5 k land and 5 hits on them.cuz I would still get 1k land from them.even if they had good GB.made some intels and found those 2.it's not like I took 6 k land from a state in top 10.and next time I'll get my land back I should SA states with 10 k land and good Gb so u can see the difference and the fact that I thought about the damage I will do.tho if those states want to retal I understand.war is over for me anyway since the moment I AAed LoR's top 10 states.

Devil
07-23-2008, 05:22
:huh:since LoR is the only nation that we are warring what am I supose to do?land drop states under protection or just expand from 200 land to 1 k so u can be satisfied?:wall:

all im saying if i was in the top10 and i get hit for 4k land because a stat gets ar'ed down and sa's me when theres going to be a huge problem.

But then again im from an era were the top 10 had a code of ethics

KLL
07-23-2008, 06:57
lol--yea, cause you know me so well.

I guess since I'm in LOR I can't have values lol.

i know for sure that along with the rest of the LoR leaders, you can't read, are quite the whiner and are simply beeing sour over beeign killed after your legendary failed coup to turn the war.


SO u intentionaly Landdropped states that u werent at war wit k coo

you stay out of this, you'Re not playing and now your state is dead. explain that one for starters without appearning as a lier.


all im saying if i was in the top10 and i get hit for 4k land because a stat gets ar'ed down and sa's me when theres going to be a huge problem.

But then again im from an era were the top 10 had a code of ethicswell you guys are beeing warred for your attitudes for a lot of things, so i wouldn't put my money on the chance others might think like you.
and as i already pointed out in the other thread, afaik a FW state double tapped a EoS state in top10 so that should level it out even in your book.

pron
07-23-2008, 12:51
oh KLL, I see how you are now.

KLL
07-23-2008, 12:54
oh KLL, I see how you are now.

and how would that be then?

Missionary
07-23-2008, 14:56
and how would that be then?

naive?

thanks doggyma :)

Dogma
07-23-2008, 15:02
niaeve? (sp)

Naive

::LD::GrimReapr
08-17-2008, 04:02
So how is land dropping veiwed when not at war i seem to be a victim of it and the person that did it is no longer alive?

The Legend
08-17-2008, 04:43
If it is a dying state trying to save itself, I will generally contact the leader and ask that it not happen again this set ("you've ****ed me once and I understand that it was necessary. Please have your states choose a different target in the for the rest of the set."). Hopefully they looked through all the states of the attacking nation first, and found all of them had significant GB.

If it is a land-dropping state that is trying to recover after its actions, I'd decide between killing it (not possible in this case), working out an arrangement with the host nation that will give you back equal land in a single grab, or warring the host nation.

For equal grab, it's best to let the host nation choose the state for themselves, rather than picking which state must drop GB. It's less likely to get your nation involved in the war, and it shows the host nation you are reasonable. Basically they lose 7.5% of a single state's NW (actually less, since they don't need to sell spies/jets/bombers), rather than having to fight the war on another front.

::LD::GrimReapr
08-17-2008, 11:24
The state in question has no AR attacks on it what so ever he land dropped on purpose and there were atleast 3 other states that had it happen to them and it was for a nice chunks of land.


You have killed 6th Inferno 150(#***)[DAK] Yoh Asakura(#***)[LoR] 2.300 Land, 9 Science, $64.102.644, 14.460 Food 06:20:09-2008/08/17
SA You have killed 6th Inferno 150(#***)[DAK] Yoh Asakura(#***)[LoR] 2.857 Land, 9 Science, $66.085.200, 14.606 Food 06:17:09-2008/08/17
SA You have killed 6th Inferno 150(#***)[DAK] pron(#***)[LoR] 1.975 Land, 1.246 Food 06:15:47-2008/08/17
SA You have killed 6th Inferno 150(#***)[DAK] pron(#***)[LoR] 2.454 Land, 1.258 Food 06:15:08-2008/08/17
SA You have killed 6th Inferno 150(#***)[DAK] Pax Romana(#***)[SC] 1.209 Land, 2.855 Food 06:11:25-2008/08/17
SA You have killed 6th Inferno 150(#***)[DAK] Riscen(#***)[SC] 861 Land, $4, 11.740 Food

Max Logan
08-17-2008, 13:10
i landdropped Lor and WLF one set on purpose. the one k*randomnumbers* tried to kill me

k959
08-17-2008, 13:38
and u will die this set... no need to worry about that.