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[Divine Intervention]

nvm

[Foxhound]

Im pretty sure this is against the rules

Language

You may NOT have any offensive or inappropriate words or sentences in your profile and or in game messages, this includes but is not limited to racism and swears/curses.

You may NOT post anything related to illegal or inappropriate stuff like porn, warez, hacking, drugs, viruses etc. (including links)


mods please handle

[Crimson Shadow]

I'm leaving this up to a global mod as you are asking for help.

However I don't think you need to have a poll as it makes it seem like you are trying to encourage drug usage.


@ Foxhound -- Use the ! inside the triangle beside where you give rep, etc. to report posts. That way the are confidential and you don't get flammed for them.

[Crimson Shadow]

Also this is a very serious topic, so as a warning in advance....anything that I find encouraging drug usage in this I will hit with an infraction.

You have been warned ;)

[Crimson Shadow]

I would...but I don't know how. I think only global/admins can.

[Foxhound]

I'm leaving this up to a global mod as you are asking for help.

However I don't think you need to have a poll as it makes it seem like you are trying to encourage drug usage.


@ Foxhound -- Use the ! inside the triangle beside where you give rep, etc. to report posts. That way the are confidential and you don't get flammed for them.

I know about the reporting I wanted him to know the rules

:)

[Divine Intervention]

I know about the reporting I wanted him to know the rules

:)

very nice of you :mellow:

[Xavior]

Foxhound for mod!! :closedeyes:

[Rassputtin]

Well I can speak from experience and the experiences I've had WITH others in order to demonstrate that you have already done too much. I don't know what the classifications are..... but from what your saying I assume you mean drugs that either

1. Aren't legal (like alcohol)
2. Drugs that aren't legal some places (like weed)

So here is my advice to you on all aspects including alcohol & weed.

1. I don't know ONE SINGLE person who I have done drugs of ANY kind with or have known of them doing them in a seperate circle that has NOT messed up thier life in atleast one aspect.

Examples.

Kid I used to hang out with and smoke and drink with, got into X, started small, got bigger, and bigger and bigger. Was taking the stuff 2 or 3 times a day every day. He wouldn't even wait for the first one to wear off, he would just wait for the first one to stop peaking before he dropped another. Long story short, kid got robbed on several occasions, jumped on several more, got arrested on a few other occasions and spend alot more time than you want to in jail and rehab.

Another kid I used to hang out with, started with smoke an drink, escalated to LSD & Opium, hash, shrooms, afterwhich he escalated to coke, oxy's, vic's and eventually heroin. Needless to say his life could be better.

Another kid I used to hang out with, started the same way, drinking smoking, little acid, maybe some special K, was a grade or two below me and my other friends. Eventually he got into coke, heroin & crack, and before being a junky himself he turned all his friends into junkies. He, 3-4 of his friends are all incarcarated on a regular basis and another has long since been buried from an overdose.

Another kid I used to hang out with.. ok for future examples me & my friends all started with smoking and drinking... everything escalated from that point. So... i dont have to keep typing drinking and smoking.

Anyway, this other kid he inherited 30k when his mom died and within 16 months he snorted his bank account to 0, no longer speaks with his father and him and his brother are at odds and dont speak because one wants to sell the house they inhereited together and he doesn't. So his "family life" is non-existant.

Another kid inherited 10k when his father died, his money was gone in less than a year.

Thats not to mention all the smashed cars, wrecked houses, freindship ending fights, and other various arrests.

I'm all for young people having fun. But in almost every case I've ever known, Drug use that is "social" or "occasional" turns into "habitual" and "chronic" abuse faster than you can say "I'm not an addict".

As much fun as I had "partying". I would NOT recommend it to anyone. Because while I was having all that "fun". I could have been preparing to have a much more successful life.

Hell.... maybe I'd have some investment into oil futures. :o

[Grendel Khan]

I was Tour Managing for the opener of the Rolling Rock "Latrobe Town Fair" concert a few years ago. Big show; Stained, Sevendust, Velvet Revolver, etc... so there were a ton of bodies shoved up against the stage, playing in the mud and of course drinking and partying. I was in the VIP section beyond the barricades, watching the crowd and the show from the side when stained was performing. I was taking in the crowd when a girl pushed against the barricade fence and started trying to get someone's attention. I went to see what the problem was and she was screaming about her friend and pointing at a girl who was laying in the mud twitching and jerking a few feet away.

I got some paramedics attention and they went in to get her. First thought was she got slammed of landed on hard. But after watching her writhe for awhile I realized she was "cooking herself". She was still twitching when they got her onto the gurney board, but had stopped by time they got her body onto the four wheeler to take her to an ambulance. Stopped moving completely.

Too much X, too little water, too much heat and she fried her brain. I'm pretty sure she didn't make it home that night. If she was lucky, she died before they got her to the ambulance.

Can't tell you how many "E-tards" I've met, from people just doing too much too often without regard to their mental health of anything in the meantime. You start causing mass serotonin dumps you are going to cause your body to go through severe mood alterations. It takes time to refill those chemicals to "proper balance". Much like the "Cocaine Blues", but on a longer more damaging level. Cocaine Blues is generally just sleep deprivation and The L-dopamine center being emptied. L-dopamine is more closely related to direct "pleasure", where as serotonin is tied to mood and intrinsic happiness.

If you've ever met someone that has chewed their body up so that they are now a depressive - unable to naturally get "happy" you'll steer clear.


BUT the reality is, fear will NOT dissuade you from making "mistakes", at some point you will "buck - up" and join the big leagues, if it is only fear of results that keeps you from doing something.

[Dogma]

Also this is a very serious topic, so as a warning in advance....anything that I find encouraging drug usage in this I will hit with an infraction.

You have been warned ;)

I will back Crimson on this one. Discussing the pitfalls of Drug use is an acceptable topic but the encouraging it's use will result in at the very least a temp ban.

Now My views on the subject. GK touched on this already in a way. I really don't see a real problem with occasional marijuana use by responsible adults. I know that it is already legal in some parts of the world. But, my problem with it is that is lowers the fear factor for moving top other things. I know several ppl who have smoked a little for years with no negative results. But, at the same time I know several ppl that have "graduated" to harder and harder drugs. Having grown up in the 60's and 70's, I grew up in the drug culture. So I have seen LOTS of ppl doing whatever they can do to get a buzz. From huffing gasoline to shooting heroine. I have seen friends die from not knowing when to stop.

I have one friend, well, former friend, that did so much LSD in his life that by the time he was 25 years old, he could no longer take care of himself. He was delusional and believed Ronny Vanzandt was his father and was coming back for him. He was unable to live on his own as his parents died while he was in his early 20's. They found him dead in his home at age 28. Cause of death...you guessed it, accidental overdose.

And yes, I must admit that I myself had had my own experiences with just about every drug imaginable, I am only thankful I realized, before it was to late that it was going to kill me if I continued

The risks are NOT worth the gamble. There are some ppl that can handle an occasional buzz but there are some that can't. you never know which you are till it is too **** late.