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Minimus
07-21-2008, 20:03
I would like honest opinions from all you white people.

Disorder
07-21-2008, 20:39
I would like honest opinions from all you white people.

Your statement above is a racist request.

Minimus
07-21-2008, 20:57
Funny how everyone keeps questioning why I call everything racist, yet that option is winning?

Disorder
07-21-2008, 21:01
Racism in my opion is a fact of life..

Its also one's opinion that should mean absolutly nothing in another person eye's or in a court of law.

You are who you are, live with it.

Bram Gotink
07-22-2008, 04:29
Racism in my opion is a fact of life..

Its also one's opinion that should mean absolutly nothing in another person eye's or in a court of law.

You are who you are, live with it.

That is so ... ... ... ... true

jeff_capes
07-22-2008, 05:47
I would like honest opinions from all you white people.

Am I allowed to call that racist. As you are clearly pointing out the colour of my skin when surely you want the whole of the community to offer their opinion. :w00t:

Oh yeah and the reason 'everything is racist' is winning is more to do with the second part. STOP MAKING STUPID POLLS. haha lol

Dogma
07-22-2008, 12:47
Actually if you want to know the truth about it, Mini, I consider you racist.

-Chris-
07-22-2008, 12:59
I voted anything said by Chris, even though your the racist.

Minimus
07-22-2008, 13:15
See, I finally want a serious opinion on something, and all you guys can do is tell me how racist I am. I'm genuinely offended.

Seriously, you guys all write these serious topics and want me to not spam them up, and take them seriously, and piss and moan when I don't. Then I finally write something serious, asking for real opinions, and you bash me.

-Chris-
07-22-2008, 13:16
The little boy who cried wolf.

The little minimus who cried racist.

Minimus
07-22-2008, 13:20
I'm not saying I don't deserve it. But if you want active, legitimate participation from people who normally just spam stuff, you should show them respect when they do try. Give respect to earn respect, I know it's coming. Anyway, I should probably stop being active in here if all I'm going to get is abuse. I'm sure others feel the same way.

Minimus
07-22-2008, 14:27
Why? Why do you people abuse me so?

Minimus
07-22-2008, 14:58
hater

If by that you mean Canadian hater, then it's pretty accurate.

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:02
or you hate black people

I love the xxxxxxxx. Why is everyone in these forums so f-ing racist against everyone but white people?

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:07
white people? are you kidding me leave the coolies and the spics alone but blame the white people because minorities are so set in their ways they want special treatment instead of having to get real jobs. It's tuesday you get your welfare check yet?

It doesn't come until Wednesday. Thanks for being so racially insensitive ****head.

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:10
look *** ****er. Canadians are far from normal. You guys are all queer yet you get all pissed off whenever someone calls you out on it. Now here you are, making fun of blacks, jews, and white people. Why can't you just stop being a racist a-hole and get along with everyone?

Mike Hunt
07-22-2008, 15:12
look *** ****er. Canadians are far from normal. You guys are all queer yet you get all pissed off whenever someone calls you out on it. Now here you are, making fun of blacks, jews, and white people. Why can't you just stop being a racist a-hole and get along with everyone?

booo hooo

someone's just jealous because their hockey team sucks

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:13
booo hooo

someone's just jealous because their hockey team sucks

Figures you'd bring up a sport dominated by white people.

Mike Hunt
07-22-2008, 15:14
Figures you'd bring up a sport dominated by white people.

just because black people can't skate doesn't mean the sport is racist

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:16
Hockey is a white dominated sport, just like Mormon is to religion. They'll accept an occasional black just to make themselves look less racist. But in reality, Hockey is the most racist, black hating sport out there. It has nothing to do with not being able to skate. I bet Tiger Woods can skate alot better than your dumb Canadian jew hating gay ***.

Mr President
07-22-2008, 15:18
See, I finally want a serious opinion on something, and all you guys can do is tell me how racist I am. I'm genuinely offended.

Seriously, you guys all write these serious topics and want me to not spam them up, and take them seriously, and piss and moan when I don't. Then I finally write something serious, asking for real opinions, and you bash me.

For the better part of a year now, you haven't been serious on anything. And then you make a poll and expect people to believe your being serious? You can't get mad at others in here for being hesitant. You have even told me many times that most people do not know how to take you.

If you want this to be a serious topic, then stop making wise cracks about white people and black people ect ect.

Try pointing out the areas IN YOUR OPINION are racist and see what others have to say. But if they don't agree with you, it doesn't mean they are wrong. It simply means they have a different opinion then you.

Mike Hunt
07-22-2008, 15:19
Hockey is a white dominated sport, just like Mormon is to religion. They'll accept an occasional black just to make themselves look less racist. But in reality, Hockey is the most racist, black hating sport out there. It has nothing to do with not being able to skate. I bet Tiger Woods can skate alot better than your dumb Canadian jew hating gay ***.

so your basically saying god is a racist? cry some more?

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:20
For the better part of a year now, you haven't been serious on anything. And then you make a poll and expect people to believe your being serious? You can't get mad at others in here for being hesitant. You have even told me many times that most people do not know how to take you.

If you want this to be a serious topic, then stop making wise cracks about white people and black people ect ect.

Try pointing out the areas IN YOUR OPINION are racist and see what others have to say. But if they don't agree with you, it doesn't mean they are wrong. It simply means they have a different opinion then you.

I respect their opinions. If they would contribute something like, "I think Mike Hunt is being extremely racist", or "it is wrong to censor someone based on race" then expand with a story, I'd respect that. Everyone seems to have such a problem with me calling them out on their racism, so I made a very serious poll about it. I didn't add a bunch of wierd comments about Ranger or Hoebawt.

Mike Hunt
07-22-2008, 15:21
For the better part of a year now, you haven't been serious on anything. And then you make a poll and expect people to believe your being serious? You can't get mad at others in here for being hesitant. You have even told me many times that most people do not know how to take you.

If you want this to be a serious topic, then stop making wise cracks about white people and black people ect ect.

Try pointing out the areas IN YOUR OPINION are racist and see what others have to say. But if they don't agree with you, it doesn't mean they are wrong. It simply means they have a different opinion then you.

minimus is a joke and anyone who takes him serious is seriously retarded

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:21
so your basically saying god is a racist? cry some more?

Thank you Mike. Finally someone contributed something worthwhile to this topic.

Mike Hunt
07-22-2008, 15:23
Thank you Mike. Finally someone contributed something worthwhile to this topic.

hey maybe people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. First you whine about everyone being racist then you decide to bash gods chosen few go cry somewhere else this is for grownups only

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:25
minimus is a joke and anyone who takes him serious is seriously retarded

See, this is a perfect example of how you all treat outsiders. I make a valid point and you guys just rip on it. Why do I even bother?

Mike Hunt
07-22-2008, 15:26
See, this is a perfect example of how you all treat outsiders. I make a valid point and you guys just rip on it. Why do I even bother?

waaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaa shut up ******

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:28
waaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaa shut up ******

oh, oh, now some gay bashing? Is there anyone you people don't hate? First mexicans, now gays. It's a wonder you can attract any new members at all to these forums.

Mike Hunt
07-22-2008, 15:29
oh, oh, now some gay bashing? Is there anyone you people don't hate? First mexicans, now gays. It's a wonder you can attract any new members at all to these forums.

ya i'm a majority of one. suck on it

Mr President
07-22-2008, 15:30
Harming someone else (beating the heck out of them) just cause of the color of there skin is what i feel is racist.

But i also have to say that i think racism has been exploited way to far. Every time i turn around that is what i hear someone is being sued for. Why is it nobody can have an opinion anymore?

Who are we to say who is to like who? I can't stand disrespectful little punks and i could care less what color there skin is. Does this make me a racist against whites or blacks?

And why is it a white person has to apologize for calling someone the N word but yet, 90% of the rap songs contain them calling each other it?
If Black people have a problem with this word, then they should lead by example and not call each other it. People say white parents who hate black people bread this hate. Well, young children listen to these rap songs and listen to black people call other black people the N word, so that is ok?

I also have a problem with calling black people african american. Why can't they just be americans? We don't call an irish person who lives here an irish american.

The world is full of racism. But if we took a step back and didn't pay so much attention to running everyones lives, then maybe things would be different.

If someone calls me a name, it's just a name..

Minimus
07-22-2008, 15:37
If someone calls you a name and it's just a name, why do people get all bent out of shape about me calling them out on their racism? I agree, people should be people. It seems to me in these forums, some racist comments are said concerning Mexicans. This was the reason I called these people who made these comments racist. They are. I treat all colors as American as well, in my country, but many do not. They say mean, spiteful, or just ignorant things, without respect. I feel alot of people here do that as well, including myself. If you want these forums to be clean of swearing, they should also be clean of racist, or racially insensitive remarks, as well as remarks against jews or gays. To me, these comments are worse than an occasional cuss word. People won't stop coming to the forums if they see the word "Donkey" hole, but they will stop coming if they see people bashing Mexicans, or calling each other derogatory names for gay people. I'm not going to ignore people's racist comments because it ruins these forums for everyone, especially our guests from Mexico. I think sometimes it takes a topic like this to get people to be aware that they are doing such things, and to see what people truly find acceptable.

Dogma
07-22-2008, 15:39
See, I finally want a serious opinion on something, and all you guys can do is tell me how racist I am. I'm genuinely offended.

Seriously, you guys all write these serious topics and want me to not spam them up, and take them seriously, and piss and moan when I don't. Then I finally write something serious, asking for real opinions, and you bash me.

I am not bashing, but I do seriously think you are a racist. You are the one that keeps putting a racial slant on everything you write here. Are you actually that narrow minded or are you just trying to bait someone into an argument? I have found in my experience that the true racists are the ones that keep accusing everyone else of being one.

Yes, I am Caucasian and I also live in the south, so, I guess in your mind I am KKK correct? You have never seen or heard me say anything about a person's race. I may make fun of someone for ****s and giggles, but you will never see me race baiting, especially in a **** internet game. I mena really, think about it, you are trying to start **** with a bunch of folks from around the workld in a game setting. How pathetic is that?

After thinking about it for a second, you are a perfect candidate for the ignore button.

And I don't care if you are a banana, I will ignor you because you are ignorant.

Mr President
07-22-2008, 15:44
Honestly it's who the criticism comes from. People on here don't take you serious cause your never serious. So when you make comments about what they are doing, they automatically get annoyed with whatever your saying.

You may not like that answer, but it's the truth. Does it make it right? nope! but it works both ways. Look how annoyed you get at someone who you feel is making a comment bashing our mexican friends...

Racist remarks are not allowed in these forums. If you feel someone is making one, then you need to report it and a mod will look into it.

Making post or polls like this is a good way to remind people to watch what they are saying..

But also, let's remember that not everything that is said is someone being racists. Some things are just a joke and not meant to be taken that way. Now if someone point blanks calls them the N word or spic things like that, then it's clear they are just saying things to be mean and simply punish them for what they have no control over.. Which is the race they were born in.

ranger2112
07-22-2008, 16:24
i hate everyone from a dry arid state....or canadians..god who can stand them..except RUSH of course. :P

Dogma
07-22-2008, 16:26
JIHAD against the Canadians!

Load the catapults with Flaming Midgets and prepare to fire!

ranger2112
07-22-2008, 16:29
JIHAD against the Canadians!

Load the catapults with Flaming Midgets and prepare to fire!

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO prez is kinda short he may be offende by that midget joke. Prez its LP's right little people..thats what u prefer to be called huh???

Minimus
07-22-2008, 16:46
I am not bashing, but I do seriously think you are a racist. You are the one that keeps putting a racial slant on everything you write here. Are you actually that narrow minded or are you just trying to bait someone into an argument? I have found in my experience that the true racists are the ones that keep accusing everyone else of being one.

Yes, I am Caucasian and I also live in the south, so, I guess in your mind I am KKK correct? You have never seen or heard me say anything about a person's race. I may make fun of someone for ****s and giggles, but you will never see me race baiting, especially in a **** internet game. I mena really, think about it, you are trying to start **** with a bunch of folks from around the workld in a game setting. How pathetic is that?

After thinking about it for a second, you are a perfect candidate for the ignore button.

And I don't care if you are a banana, I will ignor you because you are ignorant.

With a name like Dogma, I doubt you're racist. I'm not the only one who sees the forums going this way a little, just most don't say it on the forums but rather over msn. Forgive me for drawing attention to this. I thought it would be received better, but perhaps my opinions are best left to myself if it makes everyone this angry. So go ahead and make fun of whoever you like, and offend anyone you feel fit to. I really don't care anymore. It's your game, not mine. Dogma, besides your hatred for Raul (not Mexicans, just Raul), I haven't found anything you've said to be racist.

Dogma
07-22-2008, 16:50
If you think I hate Raul, ask him. He will tell you much differently. Pokin fun at someone is not offending. Now, I am not saying I have not gotten offensive at times and said things in anger, but if you ask anyone in this game, if I fell I have really offended someone I make it a point to apologize for it. So, draw your conclusions as you wish. But, it is your choice to see things in a racial way. I have been in this comunity for 6 years and aside from one or two instances in the past, I have yet to see anyone in this entire community that is a racist as you seem to believe. I think you are looking for somehting to be pissed about and are way over sensitive.

Bram Gotink
07-23-2008, 04:31
o_O

People, please, do you really have to use this in your posts : ***, ****, ****, **** etc. etc.
Keep the forum clean, there's no need to start swearing and stuff...


If you want an example of how others can be racist:
In South-Africa, whites have lost control in 1991. Since then, their racism has ended, but the black people have started. Farmers get attacked just for being white. It doesn't matter if they pay their employees well, if they are racists themselves, rich or poor.
Their farms are burned down, they are physically attacked (mutilated sometimes) until they flee the country or the region.
Is that normal? I didn't think so. That is racism in it's most pure form.

Guy77
07-23-2008, 11:01
I Hate N*******

Mahdi
07-23-2008, 11:09
its ok Guy they hate you too :P

Grendel Khan
07-23-2008, 15:51
minimus, you see racism, because you chose to see racism.

Yes, racism exists, but most of us don't go out of our way to find it. Many of the things YOU do are easily interpreted as racist. There are those individuals who play this game that are separationist, or even racists. And in their minds I am sure they have just cause for their opinions.

Accusing everyone of racism on every turn, ISN'T going to reduce it.

That is a crutch.

Everyone faces prejudice of one kind or another, almost daily. Most deal with it, or don't get bothered by it.

Personally, I find the the "N-Bomb" offensive in it's use, because I feel it belittles the speaker, be they black, white, or purple. I resent it's use in "black culture" as much as I dislike it's use as a slur. I don't accept the cope out that it means "an ignorant person", or any other vanilla definition, or that when used by black people it is a term of brotherhood and endearment. The word has too much history and connotation tied to it. And as an open-minded man who wishes he was truly "color-blind" it's a bit too insulting to my sensibilities because I know where it's come from.

Everyone should read "Unforgivable Blackness, The Rise And Fall Of Jack Johnson" by Geoffrey C. Ward.

Bram Gotink
07-24-2008, 07:46
Why do you mention seperationists? (if it is what I think, i mean)

Wanting to be color-blind is a form of racism.

"I don't care if you're black" -- Why do you say that then, if it doesn't matter anyway??

They are human. That is the only importance. They are capable of love, friendship and all other human- and cylon-only things.

Really, as I mentioned BSG now, you should all watch BSG. Their treatment of the Cylons represents our treatment of the non-caucasian. In the beginning, they were our slaves. They did as we bidded, they died if we wanted too.
Now they stand up. What happens if they find out someone is a Cylon aboard their "human-only" ships? They shoot them, or throw them in space (whatever, they're dead anyway). -- some of us had/are in that fase, remember the KKK ? --
One Cylon is accepted in the human race, but still she has to hear all comments about her race, the hate in the voices of the others, their 'attitude' towards her (it's a she).

Guy77
07-24-2008, 08:11
Well i use the "N word" because the irish were once called it by the english

so i have as much right to say the n word as anyone =P ( and so long as they hate me too i guess its ok mahdi! lol)

Bram Gotink
07-24-2008, 09:42
"right to say the n word"
ftw? =D

Dogma
07-24-2008, 11:44
Why do you mention seperationists? (if it is what I think, i mean)

Wanting to be color-blind is a form of racism.

"I don't care if you're black" -- Why do you say that then, if it doesn't matter anyway??

They are human. That is the only importance. They are capable of love, friendship and all other human- and cylon-only things.

Really, as I mentioned BSG now, you should all watch BSG. Their treatment of the Cylons represents our treatment of the non-caucasian. In the beginning, they were our slaves. They did as we bidded, they died if we wanted too.
Now they stand up. What happens if they find out someone is a Cylon aboard their "human-only" ships? They shoot them, or throw them in space (whatever, they're dead anyway). -- some of us had/are in that fase, remember the KKK ? --
One Cylon is accepted in the human race, but still she has to hear all comments about her race, the hate in the voices of the others, their 'attitude' towards her (it's a she).

she was a 3

Bram Gotink
07-24-2008, 11:46
Don't forget that they have a 6 on their ship, but imprisond. Some treat her relatively well, others beat her up each time they visit. (ps: I just finished season 3 and am waiting for season 4 to appear at my desk (all super-legal, of course)...)

Guy77
07-24-2008, 12:07
i only posted that because there are alot of african americans who claim they have the right to say the word =P

and i claim its bs =P is the only reason i posted that

Bram Gotink
07-24-2008, 12:11
i only posted that because there are alot of african americans who claim they have the right to say the word =P

and i claim its bs =P is the only reason i posted that

it's bs,
that's for sure

I'm Gay so I am allowed to use the word Gay, but you aren't allowed to use it... is that logic? It's the exact same thing (btw: prez: delete that smiley please, it's disgusting || wth, why is there a smiley on the word gay?)

Grendel Khan
07-24-2008, 17:28
Why do you mention seperationists? (if it is what I think, i mean)

Wanting to be color-blind is a form of racism.

"I don't care if you're black" -- Why do you say that then, if it doesn't matter anyway??

They are human. That is the only importance. They are capable of love, friendship and all other human- and cylon-only things.

Really, as I mentioned BSG now, you should all watch BSG. Their treatment of the Cylons represents our treatment of the non-caucasian. In the beginning, they were our slaves. They did as we bidded, they died if we wanted too.
Now they stand up. What happens if they find out someone is a Cylon aboard their "human-only" ships? They shoot them, or throw them in space (whatever, they're dead anyway). -- some of us had/are in that fase, remember the KKK ? --
One Cylon is accepted in the human race, but still she has to hear all comments about her race, the hate in the voices of the others, their 'attitude' towards her (it's a she).

I mention Separationists, because IF you are aware of movements in Racism, this is a very hot topic, and different then your classic lynch mob, variety. Often I believe it to be a front, and that there is still a message of one "race" being superior" to another, but that is my perception.

There are Separationist members of this Forum. That is why I mentioned that aspect.

Wanting to be color blind, is NOT a form of racism. It is Maturity and wisdom in understanding that oneself Does see the color of another human being's skin. I can make no claims that I do not realize the color of another man's skin. I have met no man that can. Does that mean that I treat a BLACK man any different then I treat a WHITE man? No, but I wish that I didn't even notice that one was BLACK, and another was WHITE.

I do not understand your edit of "I don't care if you are black..." If it was taken from my post, the rest of the sentence EXPLAINS the reason - Black, White, or Purple...

Grendel Khan
07-24-2008, 17:52
Two interesting tales along the lines of this thread:

While incarcerated two guys that I talked with should have been antagonistic towards each other, IF they were small-minded. One was a past "Blood" and the other a member of the Aryan Nation. But they respected each other and in some ways each other's "races". Both knew that the other was racist, but since they both had more separtaionist beliefs then ignorant aggressive attitudes, there really wasn't any issues.

I don't have strong Racist beliefs, but I can respect someone that does have them, IF they can carry their self with respect, and not belittle their self. I have very little time for the strongly opinionated that is merely led by ignorance.



The other night I was playing online poker. All walks of life play at these tables, but it typically is an English speaking environment, due to the game being hosted in America, and all the directions posted in English. Two Mexican players joined the table and began filling the chat with verbose Spanish. I do not speak fluent Spanish, but have some ability to pick out derogatory phrases and what not as well as catch a jest of discussions, especially if in print. No one said anything about the Spanish flooding the chat, or bothered the Mexican players. One player that was a typical "Redneck" complete with picture of himself siting on his pick-up truck bought the table a round of "virtual beer". One of the Mexican players took offense to having a "redneck" buy him a beer, and proceeded to start talking mad smack and racial slurs.

The Redneck ignored the ignorance and went on his merry way, being a generally cool guy to bump into at a poker table. The Racist minorities lashed out at anyone and everything they could.

So I took their money and told them I OWNED them.

Crass from me, I admit, but what can I say? I'm a redneck... and I rarely walk away from an insult.

Mike Hunt
07-24-2008, 18:34
is this still going on? I can't believe you guys take him seriously, its like asking your cat if it likes its litter box

Dogma
07-25-2008, 01:20
is this still going on? I can't believe you guys take him seriously, its like asking your cat if it likes its litter box

Cannot agree more

Bram Gotink
07-25-2008, 08:06
I mention Separationists, because IF you are aware of movements in Racism, this is a very hot topic, and different then your classic lynch mob, variety. Often I believe it to be a front, and that there is still a message of one "race" being superior" to another, but that is my perception.

There are Separationist members of this Forum. That is why I mentioned that aspect.

Wanting to be color blind, is NOT a form of racism. It is Maturity and wisdom in understanding that oneself Does see the color of another human being's skin. I can make no claims that I do not realize the color of another man's skin. I have met no man that can. Does that mean that I treat a BLACK man any different then I treat a WHITE man? No, but I wish that I didn't even notice that one was BLACK, and another was WHITE.

I do not understand your edit of "I don't care if you are black..." If it was taken from my post, the rest of the sentence EXPLAINS the reason - Black, White, or Purple...

The "I don't care if you're black" is not from any posts, it is a remnant of another discussion we had in class.

I'm just guessing, but I think IDK what seperationists are, I was confused and thought it was something else, my mistake.

Minimus
07-28-2008, 20:06
Cannot agree more

**** man, I'll stop even attempting to start a serious topic in here. **** it. You take all this **** way too seriously, and it's **** irritating sometimes. Stop spoiling the fun for all of us by being a little ***** about everything ok?

Dogma
07-28-2008, 23:52
**** man, I'll stop even attempting to start a serious topic in here. **** it. You take all this **** way too seriously, and it's **** irritating sometimes. Stop spoiling the fun for all of us by being a little ***** about everything ok?

Fine with me. I am tired of you throwing the race card at every opportunity anyway, it is getting quite old

Minimus
07-29-2008, 00:22
c'mon, I haven't done that in like a week. Can't we all just get along?

KLL
07-30-2008, 02:27
While racism technicaly is the discrimination of non-humans, i na more common sense racism is term thrown aroudn way too wildy.
Racism is a normaly thing that is actualy encouraged by genetics. Pretty much anythign is racism, even if its jsut saying "latinos are hot".
Racism is jsut as bad or good as the discrimiation of peopel with diferent sexual orientation, religion, geographical location, social status, nationality, wealth political affiliation, jobs, education and what not.

p-kitty
07-30-2008, 17:48
"I don't care if you're black" -- Why do you say that then, if it doesn't matter anyway??

Because, unfortunately, it does 'matter' to some people. You're trying to find some connotation in that statement that isn't there. People aren't being 'racist' by saying it nor are they are making racism a big deal. The fact of the matter iz that racism exists because people choose to hate otherz for being 'different' simply because the human race must differentiate between everything so that everything doesn't start to look like one grey blob. I mean seriously, how would things be if we called every colour the colour blue, every item on your computer desk blue, every dish in the kitchen cupboards blue, etc?? The truth is, like KLL pointed out, is that as humans we need to identify one thing from another so so we differentiate with adjectives and nouns. Racism, is using those in a negative connotation.

Really, as I mentioned BSG now, you should all watch BSG. Their treatment of the Cylons represents our treatment of the non-caucasian. In the beginning, they were our slaves. They did as we bidded, they died if we wanted too.

I don't know what BSG is, but I do get what you're saying with the whole slaves thing. But you forget, it's not just the white man came from his pretty castles on islands in the north to the south and enslaved all the 'savage' black man in their mud huts. All across the history of the world one 'tribe' or 'distinction' of people has always enslaved the weaker tribe no matter what colour it is or the many hndredz of ways the other is different from than them. It's simply because that other tribe is simply not part of their social clique that they must try to dominate it or assimilate it depending on the attitudes of the tribe. If you want a really nerdy reference, watch star trek. lol.

Raul
07-30-2008, 18:35
Well true is ive being bother sometimes with mexican racism comments around, and Minimus is right in some of this things he mention, although not everyone does them and some wright without really thinking of it, and well Minimus aint racist, he has been in the nation lots of times and he respectful to me and my conationals, Although i must admint he floods the messages and the forums to much xD =D

Minimus
07-30-2008, 21:40
Thank you Raul. Oh, check this ad at the bottom of this topic, at least when I was reading it:

Racist
Is tipping racist? New taxi driver study says yes. Get the full story

El Mestizo
07-31-2008, 03:29
there are so many things that are wrong with so many of your posts. quite frankly I'm sitting here reading all this and just growing angrier and angrier. whether its your ignorance that is making you all post like this or your dislike for the thread starter i cant really tell. But I'm gonna try to put my thoughts into words without talking down to you all.

Racism is an evil thing, and it seems most of you understand that. However, i feel as if some of you don't understand what racism is. To explore this I'm going to forget about racism specifically and go into discrimination as a whole. Racism, sexism, homophobia, all around xenophobia.

Discrimination is not treating others differently. It is a fact of life that we are all different. Some are smarter than others, some are stronger than others, and each should be treated accordingly. HOWEVER, one must not assume based on superficial things such as race, color, country of origin, gender, creed, or sexual orientation. Everyone must be given an equal CHANCE.

Now while racism is evil, the apathy towards racism is just as evil. Comments such as, "you're racist for calling us out on our joking", are as bad as "you're a spic and i hope you die." I don't know any of you so I'm not gonna pretend to and call you racist (except Mike Hunt, you're a redneck sack of **** and its sad you're white cuz if you were a minority maybe you'd feel bad for yourself but you're white so you think you're better than those people you buy your crack from). Its just some of your posts, especially that of the Prez and Khan, really irked me.

Racism is BAD in ALL its forms. It is a generalization of a group of people based on stereotypes and if you have even the slightest experience in ANYTHING you would know that stereotypes do not properly describe an entire group of people.

Thats all I have for now.

Mahdi
07-31-2008, 11:30
he's canadian.. (Mike Hunt)

ranger2112
07-31-2008, 11:42
and nobody likes canadians

Minimus
07-31-2008, 12:57
whether its your ignorance that is making you all post like this or your dislike for the thread starter i cant really tell. But I'm gonna try to put my thoughts into words without talking down to you all.


Mostly dislike for the thread starter. Really, my intention here was not to offend anyone but rather to call attention to the fact that drug talk, and swearing aren't necessarily the things that people need to throw a fit about. My apologies if any of this made you angry. I'm not trying to be overly sensitive, but I think a good deal of people think making fun of mexicans is ok, or any race for that matter. Hell, even Canadians. Sure, Mike is Canadian, but that has nothing to do with what he writes in these forums. Actually, I take my first sentence back a little, part of my intention was to offend people who write racist bull**** in here.

El Mestizo
07-31-2008, 15:14
he's canadian.. (Mike Hunt)
well then he's a sap sucking, boonie sack of **** who has sex with woodland creatures

Mahdi
07-31-2008, 15:28
i think i might like this guy... hes funny

ranger2112
07-31-2008, 15:29
i second that Mahdi

Mr President
07-31-2008, 15:44
Its just some of your posts, especially that of the Prez and Khan, really irked me.

Racism is BAD in ALL its forms. It is a generalization of a group of people based on stereotypes and if you have even the slightest experience in ANYTHING you would know that stereotypes do not properly describe an entire group of people.

Thats all I have for now.

You get "irked" by what i said, but yet you go off and say this...

well then he's a sap sucking, boonie sack of **** who has sex with woodland creatures

I didn't call anyone anything or even pass judgment on anyone. Clearly you have in your post.

Honestly, 99.9999% of the time i would stay out of conversations like these cause ultimately there is win or even a solution. You will never get people to stop disliking other people, and with dislike comes names. Which it seems is what you are defining being racist is. I only posted in this thread to help minimus out. People were not taking him seriously and were spamming the thread. So i tried to help him get it on track and get it moving..

But also i noticed that even though you were "irked" by my post you didn't give an answer to my questions.... I think they were some solid questions.
Why is it black people can call each other the N word, but yet if a white person calls them that, they get sued or have to make some huge public apology?

The World is far from perfect. Man kind has really messed things up. We are pure evil to each other so we can get ahead. We all do it, so nobody in here can claim they don't.

My main point i was really trying to make is, let's really be clear what is harmful to others. When someone calls you a name, it is simply cause they are uneducated and they turn to a weak retreat of name calling.

Mr President
07-31-2008, 15:45
oh and btw.. welcome to the game.. i think you will fit right in :P


lol

Mahdi
07-31-2008, 15:47
Machiavelian principle... Get ahead no matter the cost...

I think i might like Mr. P too he is funny even when he isnt trying to be

KLL
07-31-2008, 19:09
well then he's a sap sucking, boonie sack of **** who has sex with woodland creatures

that'd be the sweedes actually

Racism is an evil thing, and it seems most of you understand that. However, i feel as if some of you don't understand what racism is. To explore this I'm going to forget about racism specifically and go into discrimination as a whole. Racism, sexism, homophobia, all around xenophobia.its jsut as evil as sexual urges or whatever.. its natural.
naturaly it should not be encouraged, but pretending not to be racist is jsut naive and impossible.

Racism is BAD in ALL its forms. It is a generalization of a group of people based on stereotypes and if you have even the slightest experience in ANYTHING you would know that stereotypes do not properly describe an entire group of people.Bad is relative, and there are occasions where generalized racism does make sense.
And sterotypes often are quite accurate actually.

Why is it black people can call each other the N word, but yet if a white person calls them that, they get sued or have to make some huge public apology?
I think in the end it all comes down to what someone actually means when he says it. and in a case of a white guy sayign it to someone black who is not a freind, it is probably meant to be degeratory

ranger2112
07-31-2008, 19:10
that'd be the sweedes actually

its jsut as evil as sexual urges or whatever.. its natural.
naturaly it should not be encouraged, but pretending not to be racist is jsut naive and impossible.

Bad is relative, and there are occasions where generalized racism does make sense.
And sterotypes often are quite accurate actually.


I think in the end it all comes down to what someone actually means when he says it. and in a case of a white guy sayign it to someone black who is not a freind, it is probably meant to be degeratory


THAT is right on

KLL
07-31-2008, 19:21
THAT is right on

I always am

ranger2112
07-31-2008, 19:25
nah, but that time you scored

Mahdi
07-31-2008, 19:40
you want racist check this out and make sure to read the comments...

http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/white-flour/

funniest one says
"Nothin says luvin like Jews in the oven"

KLL
07-31-2008, 19:42
you want racist check this out and make sure to read the comments...

http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/white-flour/

funniest one says
"Nothin says luvin like Jews in the oven"

bashing jews isn't racism, its religionism or whatever. why do people get these thing always mixed up?

Mahdi
07-31-2008, 19:43
ever heard the common phrase... shut the **** up? your getting very annoying with your know it all attitude

KLL
07-31-2008, 19:46
ever heard the common phrase... shut the **** up? your getting very annoying with your know it all attitude

just do proper research , do you know how annoying it is to see incorrect stuff, ignorance and idiocy allover the place?

ranger2112
07-31-2008, 19:47
some were **** funny

p-kitty
08-01-2008, 08:43
wal-marx. XD

so, I suppose now we've established that the main base of racism is simply the intent to discriminate in a negative or derogatory manner.

everything else is simply conequences of. =/

SmarT
08-01-2008, 13:07
http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/thousands-of-my-potential-children-died-on-your-daughters-face-last-night/


hehehe

El Mestizo
08-01-2008, 18:13
You get "irked" by what i said, but yet you go off and say this...
I am but only human.

But also i noticed that even though you were "irked" by my post you didn't give an answer to my questions.... I think they were some solid questions.
Well let's see...
Why is it black people can call each other the N word, but yet if a white person calls them that, they get sued or have to make some huge public apology?
I can't remember a time where a white person was sued simply for calling a black person ******. Because if they just said it, it becomes hearsay without multiple credible witnesses. However, when spray painted across one's front door, or other acts of intimidation, is when the law takes action.

And this ridiculous argument of ****** vs nigga is old. GET OVER IT! You feel less of a man because someone is stopping you from using a word? I don't see black people walking around saying honkey cuz they'd get their *** kicked by doing so. If a white person called another white person cracker, it'd be laughed off. There's no doubt there's double standards when it come to race, but these double standard's hardly outweigh the benefits of being white and privileged. So you can't walk thru harlem with impunity. Stick to your country clubs b!tches! :P

The World is far from perfect. Man kind has really messed things up. We are pure evil to each other so we can get ahead. We all do it, so nobody in here can claim they don't.
You are a sad little man :rolleyes: The world may have its bad but to say we are pure evil just makes my heart hurt. You must admit, there ARE good people out there.

My main point i was really trying to make is, let's really be clear what is harmful to others. When someone calls you a name, it is simply cause they are uneducated and they turn to a weak retreat of name calling.That makes it right, or ok? Ignorance is NOT bliss, my friend. You tell a young child who knows no better that something is wrong. The less than educated deserve the same.

its jsut as evil as sexual urges or whatever.. its natural.
naturaly it should not be encouraged, but pretending not to be racist is jsut naive and impossible.Sexual urges aren't evil. I guess it is considered that in some religions or cultures but in RL, its obvious that sex is a beautiful thing when treated with respect. And it is entirely possible to not be racist. I'm not. Everyone gets the same opportunity to be on my good side. My outburst at Mike Hunt was because he ****ed it up.

Bad is relative, and there are occasions where generalized racism does make sense.
And sterotypes often are quite accurate actually.
Stereotypes, while coming from a truth are exaggerations of the truth. Of course black people like chicken. But then again, who doesn't? Of course Puerto Ricans can dance, its a part of our culture. But I've met many who can't. There's probably plenty of deadbeat drunk Irishmen out there. But I bet there's just as many drunk off their *** Canadians.

Stereotypes are fun and joke of race can be but to use them in a forum like this, repetitively, is crude and shows a lack of maturity. I make fun of my Ukrainian friend for being a primitive barbarian and he makes fun of me for being a drunken Irish bastard. But i sure as hell don't go around town telling everyone that they're only way outta the hood is basketball, rap, or selling crack.

But i also have to say that i think racism has been exploited way to far. Every time i turn around that is what i hear someone is being sued for. Why is it nobody can have an opinion anymore?Opinions of an entire race based on the interaction with a few is not an informed opinion.

Who are we to say who is to like who? I can't stand disrespectful little punks and i could care less what color there skin is. Does this make me a racist against whites or blacks?If you hate a certain group of little punks because they put a bag of flaming poo on your porch you would be justified. If you go to the movies and shoot daggers from your eyes at every teenager you are ageist.

I also have a problem with calling black people african american. Why can't they just be americans? We don't call an irish person who lives here an irish american.I grew up in a neighborhood where there was one white kid. That one white kid was me and my brother (mom's Puerto Rican, dad's Irish). So I knew a lot of black people, and rarely did I come across one that insisted on the term African-American.

If someone calls me a name, it's just a name..Where I come from, someone calls you a name its not just a name. Its a challenge and if you don't step up, you're a punk. And don't get labeled a punk. Cuz then you're treated like that everyday.But then again, I grew up in the hood. Those suburbs must be nice.

Minimus
08-01-2008, 18:45
The man has some valid points. I think alot of this stuff is funny to us because we're white, or because maybe we have one or two foreign friends who we're close enough with to joke about such things. But we don't really see how it affects people we don't know. I can freely call my Kenyan friend the whitest Kenyan ever because I know him, but if I posted something like that on a board somewhere, someone is going to get very pissed. The truth is, most of us probably did grow up in suburbs, and have no idea what it is really like growing up outside of that, other than what we see in movies, which is, of course, 100% accurate???? I can throw the term "racist" around left and right about everything, but most of you don't take it seriously because no one has gotten offended until now. Personally, I'm glad you got offended Mestizo, not because you actually got offended, but because maybe it will show some of these guys that comments like this aren't all fun and games. Now, all of you can feel free to tell me about your token black friend, or the fact that one time you drove through Compton when you got lost on your way to LAX.

ranger2112
08-01-2008, 18:51
The man has some valid points. I think alot of this stuff is funny to us because we're white, or because maybe we have one or two foreign friends who we're close enough with to joke about such things. But we don't really see how it affects people we don't know. I can freely call my Kenyan friend the whitest Kenyan ever because I know him, but if I posted something like that on a board somewhere, someone is going to get very pissed. The truth is, most of us probably did grow up in suburbs, and have no idea what it is really like growing up outside of that, other than what we see in movies, which is, of course, 100% accurate???? I can throw the term "racist" around left and right about everything, but most of you don't take it seriously because no one has gotten offended until now. Personally, I'm glad you got offended Mestizo, not because you actually got offended, but because maybe it will show some of these guys that comments like this aren't all fun and games. Now, all of you can feel free to tell me about your token black friend, or the fact that one time you drove through Compton when you got lost on your way to LAX.

or my ex-fiance is Borica? or as a Cajun man with a brain as a kid i was laughed at and shunned because i would rather read than go hunting and fishing?

i think our well-spoken friend is less offended and more attempting to share his feelings on the subject. someone with his obvious intellect doesnt offend easily.

El mestivzo...whether i or anyone agrees with you, point well said

Dogma
08-01-2008, 19:11
Well, first of all, I take a little offense to the seeming ly generalization that because the majority here is white we are in some way or other not respecting ppl of diverse ethnic cultures. I have ranted ond raved on this subject because it struck a nerve, but, now I will try and express myself logically and to thebest of my ability show what I mean when I took offense to the direction this thread took.

Yes I am a white man in the south and I was raised during the time of the civil rights movement. I remember the March across the Edmond Pettus Bridge, I remember when MLK was shot, I remember the church bombings in Birmingham and such. It was a very dark part of our history and one that I for one, am not proud of, but it happened and there is nothing we can do to change the past. The only thing we can change is the future.
Do ppl see the difference in ppl by looking at them, sure they do. Is it right, no it isn't. I was raised in a conservative southern family, however, I was taught for as long as I remember that people are people no matter if they are white, black, yellow orange or green. I have lived that way all my life. I taught my children the same things. I know I have been accused in these forums of making fun of Raul because he is Mexican, well, I will be the first to challenge anyone to find where I made racist statements against Raul of any other group of ppl, because of his heritage. I consider Raul an good friend of mine and I am comfortable enough to joke with him, not because he is of a different ethnic background than me but because he is my friend and I know that he would not take it as anything other than that.

I too live in the "hood". I bought my house in a neighborhood that is predominantly black, and I have some of the greatest neighbors I have ever had. Do I have token black friends? No I do not I have friends of all ethnicities and I do not try and distinguish between them. And if I have friends of any group that do try and make something about my other friends, then that friendship ends.
We just need to get away from being a people that defines a certain group of ppl by their race, creed national origin, or religion. Are we there yet, no we are not, but we are making strides in that goal. I just don't agree with overcompensation of any people over another because of past history. We the people, have been endowed by our creator with these unalienable rights, Life Liberty and the Pursuit if Happiness. WE THE PEOPLE, not we the white people or we the black people, it is we the people and the sooner we all see that the sooner these typoes of arguements can be a thing of the past.

ranger2112
08-01-2008, 19:15
nice post Dogma. not a single asterist in it either :)

Minimus
08-01-2008, 19:25
See, despite you all bashing me at the beginning, this became an interesting and intellectual discussion afterall.

El Mestizo
08-01-2008, 20:13
i think our well-spoken friend is less offended and more attempting to share his feelings on the subject. someone with his obvious intellect doesnt offend easily.you flatter me lol. but you're right. I was just rubbed the wrong way by some of the comments. All my experience with you all is mainly in this thread so I'm not calling anyone out in particular. Just specific posts. Hope I'm not pissing anyone off yet. Not trying to get raped in-game cuz i pissed some of you guys off.

Well, first of all, I take a little offense to the seeming ly generalization that because the majority here is white we are in some way or other not respecting ppl of diverse ethnic cultures. I hope I didn't give the impression that I thought that. Again, I'm not trying to accuse you all of anything just sharing:)

We just need to get away from being a people that defines a certain group of ppl by their race, creed national origin, or religion. Are we there yet, no we are not, but we are making strides in that goal. I just don't agree with overcompensation of any people over another because of past history. We the people, have been endowed by our creator with these unalienable rights, Life Liberty and the Pursuit if Happiness. WE THE PEOPLE, not we the white people or we the black people, it is we the people and the sooner we all see that the sooner these typoes of arguements can be a thing of the past.
:dblthumbup:

Dogma
08-01-2008, 20:51
No I was not implying that I thought that you were, in fact, your post actually inspired me to sit and try and be reasonable and explain my point of view. As yours was a reasonable well thought and well received aspect of what a lot of us were thinking. Youwere just able to put it into words a little better than some of us.

p-kitty
08-02-2008, 02:19
and dogma's explanation there, above, is exactly why I gave your post rep mr. el mestizo.

Max Logan
08-02-2008, 14:30
the answer sums up: Minimus

Mr President
08-02-2008, 14:52
I am but only human.


Well let's see...

I can't remember a time where a white person was sued simply for calling a black person ******. Because if they just said it, it becomes hearsay without multiple credible witnesses. However, when spray painted across one's front door, or other acts of intimidation, is when the law takes action.

And this ridiculous argument of ****** vs nigga is old. GET OVER IT! You feel less of a man because someone is stopping you from using a word? I don't see black people walking around saying honkey cuz they'd get their *** kicked by doing so. If a white person called another white person cracker, it'd be laughed off. There's no doubt there's double standards when it come to race, but these double standard's hardly outweigh the benefits of being white and privileged. So you can't walk thru harlem with impunity. Stick to your country clubs b!tches! :P


You are a sad little man :rolleyes: The world may have its bad but to say we are pure evil just makes my heart hurt. You must admit, there ARE good people out there.

That makes it right, or ok? Ignorance is NOT bliss, my friend. You tell a young child who knows no better that something is wrong. The less than educated deserve the same.

Sexual urges aren't evil. I guess it is considered that in some religions or cultures but in RL, its obvious that sex is a beautiful thing when treated with respect. And it is entirely possible to not be racist. I'm not. Everyone gets the same opportunity to be on my good side. My outburst at Mike Hunt was because he ****ed it up.


Stereotypes, while coming from a truth are exaggerations of the truth. Of course black people like chicken. But then again, who doesn't? Of course Puerto Ricans can dance, its a part of our culture. But I've met many who can't. There's probably plenty of deadbeat drunk Irishmen out there. But I bet there's just as many drunk off their *** Canadians.

Stereotypes are fun and joke of race can be but to use them in a forum like this, repetitively, is crude and shows a lack of maturity. I make fun of my Ukrainian friend for being a primitive barbarian and he makes fun of me for being a drunken Irish bastard. But i sure as hell don't go around town telling everyone that they're only way outta the hood is basketball, rap, or selling crack.

Opinions of an entire race based on the interaction with a few is not an informed opinion.

If you hate a certain group of little punks because they put a bag of flaming poo on your porch you would be justified. If you go to the movies and shoot daggers from your eyes at every teenager you are ageist.

I grew up in a neighborhood where there was one white kid. That one white kid was me and my brother (mom's Puerto Rican, dad's Irish). So I knew a lot of black people, and rarely did I come across one that insisted on the term African-American.

Where I come from, someone calls you a name its not just a name. Its a challenge and if you don't step up, you're a punk. And don't get labeled a punk. Cuz then you're treated like that everyday.But then again, I grew up in the hood. Those suburbs must be nice.

You are a sad little manStick to your country clubs b!tches!


It's clear you don't want to debate things or even hear other people's opinions. You want your views as the only view.

And where do you come off acting like you know anything about me or where i grew up? You don't... man some of you kids act like your the only ones who have it or ever had it rough. It's called growing up and making things better for yourself. Some choose to do it and some don't. I chose to! But i know.. you grew up in the hood and well i grew up in a big white house with 2 cats and a dog and a maid and a BMW for my first car and had all my birthday parties at the country club...

If you want people opinions then learn to accept them. if you want to change there opinion then explain to them your opinion. Do go off running your mouth and thinking you know how everyone grew up...

Max Logan
08-02-2008, 15:08
cuz its Dogmas multies! :o

El Mestizo
08-03-2008, 01:55
It's clear you don't want to debate things or even hear other people's opinions. You want your views as the only view.I answered the questions you posed like you wanted me to. Don't get mad cuz I intellectually whupped yo' ***! Tell me how I'm wrong.

And where do you come off acting like you know anything about me or where i grew up? You don't... man some of you kids act like your the only ones who have it or ever had it rough. It's called growing up and making things better for yourself. Some choose to do it and some don't. I chose to! But i know.. you grew up in the hood and well i grew up in a big white house with 2 cats and a dog and a maid and a BMW for my first car and had all my birthday parties at the country club...

If you want people opinions then learn to accept them. if you want to change there opinion then explain to them your opinion. Do go off running your mouth and thinking you know how everyone grew up...The sad man and country club comments were meant as sarcastic, which I thought was obvious from the silly smileys after them. It was my attempt to bring a little levity to such a dark subject.

But where do YOU get off? I pegged you from the beginning..."little punks", "you kids", talking down to me cuz you have some inflated sense of superiority due to your age? Please! Get off your high horse and rejoin the discussion instead of changing the subject.

My living in the inner city was just to point out to you that words AREN'T just words. Not because I thought it gave me more experience or insight into the subject (even though I get the feeling in my very short time of 21 years of living I've encountered more discrimination than you have in your lifetime).

And while you might have a right to your opinion, I have the right to tell you you're ****ing WRONG!

Max Logan
08-03-2008, 05:52
haven`t got laid lately? and whatever you were saying there was irrelative to the things Mr P said. You`re just looking for a fight, so you`re making responses that are completely unrelated to Mr Ps answers.

Com`on, if your so **** mature atleast learn to make a proper argument. Geez, the level in the world is falling becouse of noobs like you :closedeyes:

El Mestizo
08-03-2008, 14:29
actually, no. not for a couple weeks. but thats beside the point. Did you even read my post? I'm gonna tell you the same thing I told the Prez. Don't tell me THAT I'm wrong. Tell me HOW I'm wrong.

Minimus
08-04-2008, 19:29
You`re just looking for a fight

Don't you do this in every thread? You say it like it's a bad thing. I don't think Mestizo is looking for a fight, but I did get a kick out of you saying this. There's a quote that comes to mind, but it sounds racist, involves a pot calling a kettle something... Stop being a ******bag Max.

KLL
08-07-2008, 06:12
Sexual urges aren't evil. I guess it is considered that in some religions or cultures but in RL, its obvious that sex is a beautiful thing when treated with respect. And it is entirely possible to not be racist. I'm not. Everyone gets the same opportunity to be on my good side. My outburst at Mike Hunt was because he ****ed it up. thats exactly my point, sexual urges are not evil. why should racism be?

The man has some valid points. I think alot of this stuff is funny to us because we're white, or because maybe we have one or two foreign friends who we're close enough with to joke about such things. But we don't really see how it affects people we don't know. I can freely call my Kenyan friend the whitest Kenyan ever because I know him, but if I posted something like that on a board somewhere, someone is going to get very pissed. The truth is, most of us probably did grow up in suburbs, and have no idea what it is really like growing up outside of that, other than what we see in movies, which is, of course, 100% accurate???? I can throw the term "racist" around left and right about everything, but most of you don't take it seriously because no one has gotten offended until now. Personally, I'm glad you got offended Mestizo, not because you actually got offended, but because maybe it will show some of these guys that comments like this aren't all fun and games. Now, all of you can feel free to tell me about your token black friend, or the fact that one time you drove through Compton when you got lost on your way to LAX.i'm of mixed heritage, lived in 4 different countries on 3 continentents and have made freinds with peopel from say 50 different o****reis from the entire colour spectrum of human skin and every social status and ideology. and yes, even nazis.
i experienced racism and discrimination regulary, if not to me, to frends or to others by my friends. of course it does bothers meand can even offend me fro mtime to time, but i don't hold it agaisnt anyone because people are jsut like that and have been raised like that. can't be mad at people for their surroundings.

Mahdi
08-07-2008, 07:31
i hate to point this out and i dont mean to be racist in saying this but look at the fact that it kept the economies of the world going for so long

Slavery gets **** done

KLL
08-07-2008, 08:18
i hate to point this out and i dont mean to be racist in saying this but look at the fact that it kept the economies of the world going for so long

Slavery gets **** done

the countries where there are slavery like conditions still... they'Re piss poor.
paying people keeps the economy going.

El Mestizo
08-08-2008, 02:42
thats exactly my point, sexual urges are not evil. why should racism be?:scared: I just don't know what to say to that. I truly hope you don't feel that way. Sex is love. Racism is hate. Its as simple as that.

of course it does bothers meand can even offend me fro mtime to time, but i don't hold it agaisnt anyone because people are jsut like that and have been raised like that. can't be mad at people for their surroundings.But you can educate them on the error of their ways.

Maybe the Prez is right. I'm not debating this topic because its undebatable. Racism can't be justified. Even if you DO end up getting robbed by those black guys walking down the street. If you suspected they'd do it just cuz they were black, you were at fault. They could have easily been white.

Minimus
08-08-2008, 13:32
:scared: I just don't know what to say to that. I truly hope you don't feel that way. Sex is love. Racism is hate. Its as simple as that.

But you can educate them on the error of their ways.

Maybe the Prez is right. I'm not debating this topic because its undebatable. Racism can't be justified. Even if you DO end up getting robbed by those black guys walking down the street. If you suspected they'd do it just cuz they were black, you were at fault. They could have easily been white.

Sex isn't always love.

If you suspected they would do it because they are black, true, you're a racist. I think there's a fine line between being cautious and racist. Alot of it has to do with tatoos. I'd be more scared of a guy with tatoos than a black guy, which doesn't mean a black guy with tatoos isn't quite scary. One also has to go with their gut feeling, even if it is racist. Like, maybe Compton isn't a good place to go walking at night wearing all your gold jewelry. Maybe it is, I've never been there, not because there are black people there, I've just never had the urge to go to Compton. If there are two mean looking black guys walking towards you in a dark alley, you'd probably be more cautious, even if you were black, seriously. Does that make the skinny black kid a racist too? Maybe this makes no sense, I'm kind of hungry right now.

Xavior
09-28-2008, 16:41
I know I may be 2 months late (i was busy all summer), but I just want to say that El Mestizo has some great points. Is he still around?

Will
09-28-2008, 18:42
:scared: I just don't know what to say to that. I truly hope you don't feel that way. Sex is love. Racism is hate. Its as simple as that.

But you can educate them on the error of their ways.

Maybe the Prez is right. I'm not debating this topic because its undebatable. Racism can't be justified. Even if you DO end up getting robbed by those black guys walking down the street. If you suspected they'd do it just cuz they were black, you were at fault. They could have easily been white.

Racism is simply an evolved form of tribalism. There is nothing inherently evil with it. It is a natural feeling and a holdover from an earlier time when you stuck with your own family/tribe.

As to your example, if you walk by two black people in the street, and you get nervous (perfectly natural reaction to a potential threat) and they vindicate your behaviour by robbing you, it's your fault? Doesn't make much sense to me.

FeaRLezZoN3
09-28-2008, 23:00
When a white person used the N word and mean it- I feel like punching a baby:angry:

Green
09-29-2008, 16:16
When a white person used the N word and mean it- I feel like punching a baby:angry:

As a "white" person, I am offended everytime I am referred to as a color. I have a name. If you don't know it ask it.

Please stop being racist towards me because of my skin color.

nNiIcCkKoO
09-30-2008, 10:26
As a "white" person, I am offended everytime I am referred to as a color. I have a name. If you don't know it ask it.

Please stop being racist towards me because of my skin color.

Haha, he has a point.

Bram Gotink
09-30-2008, 11:17
What I always found hilarious, is the fact that the N-word is not accepted in America, you have to use African-American or something like that.
The same with Spanish-American, Asian-American etc.
lollollollollollollollol
that's just pathetic.

What's wrong with saying the N-word? We even use it in some sort of cookie... the word, that is :D
Dutch people used another word for the cookie (a bit more acceptable than ours (grins)), still with the N-word. Someone sued the company/users, so the word is forbidden...

ours isn't

HA, take that D-Boz and Dirk !