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Soviet Russia
05-07-2010, 01:39
uh? :huh:
Soviet Russia
05-07-2010, 01:40
ah i see now:
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AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 193 Land / 193 Buildings 03:44:34-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 196 Land / 196 Buildings 03:44:31-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 199 Land / 199 Buildings 03:44:29-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 202 Land / 202 Buildings 03:44:27-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 205 Land / 205 Buildings 03:44:25-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 207 Land / 207 Buildings 03:44:16-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 210 Land / 210 Buildings 03:44:14-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 213 Land / 213 Buildings 03:44:11-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 216 Land / 216 Buildings 03:43:59-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] Defeat / 03:43:42-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] f12(#70)[Sky] Defeat / 03:42:22-2010/05/07
AR Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] f12(#70)[Sky] Defeat / 03:41:35-2010/05/07
SA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 738 Land / 737 Buildings, $577.227, 7.624 Food 03:40:11-2010/05/07
SA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.439 Land / 1.436 Buildings, $595.079, 7.701 Food 03:40:03-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] f12(#70)[Sky] Defeat / 03:39:39-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] f12(#70)[Sky] Defeat / 03:39:14-2010/05/07
SA Moradon(#12)[Sky] Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] 297 Land / 172 Buildings, 14.455 Science, $24.136.077, 19.372 Food 03:38:44-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] f12(#70)[Sky] Defeat / 03:38:19-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] f12(#70)[Sky] Defeat / 03:38:00-2010/05/07
SA Moradon(#12)[Sky] Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] 646 Land / 374 Buildings, 14.355 Science, $3.885.496, 20.014 Food 03:37:47-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.019.519 Military Units 03:36:26-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.060.502 Military Units 03:36:22-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.103.132 Military Units 03:36:20-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.147.476 Military Units 03:36:18-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.193.603 Military Units 03:36:15-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 976.859 Military Units 03:36:07-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.016.127 Military Units 03:36:05-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.056.974 Military Units 03:36:03-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.099.463 Military Units 03:35:49-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.143.660 Military Units 03:35:47-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.189.633 Military Units 03:35:44-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.237.455 Military Units 03:35:23-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.287.198 Military Units 03:35:21-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.338.942 Military Units 03:35:18-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.392.765 Military Units 03:35:02-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.448.752 Military Units 03:34:59-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.506.990 Military Units 03:34:56-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.567.358 Military Units 03:34:41-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.630.135 Military Units 03:34:18-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.695.646 Military Units 03:33:54-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.763.790 Military Units 03:33:52-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.834.673 Military Units 03:33:50-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.908.404 Military Units 03:33:40-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 1.985.098 Military Units 03:33:38-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moshpit Paradise(#65)[Sky] 2.064.597 Military Units 03:33:27-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] Defeat / 03:31:55-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] Defeat / 03:31:47-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.188.324 Military Units 03:31:44-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.236.061 Military Units 03:31:42-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.285.715 Military Units 03:31:40-2010/05/07
SA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] Defeat / 03:31:34-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.344.759 Military Units 03:31:25-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.358.153 Military Units 03:31:23-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.412.712 Military Units 03:31:20-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.469.462 Military Units 03:31:17-2010/05/07
SA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] Defeat / 03:31:11-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.533.177 Military Units 03:31:01-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.594.767 Military Units 03:30:57-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.658.831 Military Units 03:30:56-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.725.468 Military Units 03:30:53-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.794.783 Military Units 03:30:52-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.866.882 Military Units 03:30:49-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 1.941.877 Military Units 03:30:47-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.019.885 Military Units 03:30:44-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.101.027 Military Units 03:30:41-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.185.428 Military Units 03:30:39-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.273.220 Military Units 03:30:36-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.364.538 Military Units 03:30:33-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.459.525 Military Units 03:30:24-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.558.328 Military Units 03:30:21-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.661.099 Military Units 03:30:08-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.768.000 Military Units 03:30:06-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] Moradon(#12)[Sky] 2.879.194 Military Units 03:30:03-2010/05/07
SA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.300 Land / 1.299 Buildings, 18 Science, $10.218.522, 37.940 Food 03:28:44-2010/05/07
SA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.848 Land / 3.847 Buildings, 18 Science, $10.534.559, 38.323 Food 03:27:36-2010/05/07
SA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 4.992 Land / 4.990 Buildings, 19 Science, $10.860.370, 38.710 Food 03:27:14-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.260.299 Military Units 03:25:45-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.311.302 Military Units 03:25:43-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.364.369 Military Units 03:25:34-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.419.584 Military Units 03:25:31-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.477.033 Military Units 03:25:29-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.536.807 Military Units 03:25:17-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.599.000 Military Units 03:25:14-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.663.710 Military Units 03:25:02-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.731.039 Military Units 03:25:00-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.801.092 Military Units 03:24:53-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.873.981 Military Units 03:24:51-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 1.949.819 Military Units 03:24:48-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.028.726 Military Units 03:24:42-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.110.827 Military Units 03:24:40-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.196.250 Military Units 03:24:19-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.285.130 Military Units 03:24:18-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.377.607 Military Units 03:24:16-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.473.827 Military Units 03:23:56-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.573.940 Military Units 03:23:21-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.678.105 Military Units 03:23:10-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.786.485 Military Units 03:23:07-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 2.899.252 Military Units 03:22:56-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.016.582 Military Units 03:22:53-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.138.660 Military Units 03:22:48-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.265.679 Military Units 03:22:40-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.397.837 Military Units 03:22:21-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.535.345 Military Units 03:22:18-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.678.417 Military Units 03:22:12-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.827.279 Military Units 03:22:08-2010/05/07
AA Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] heart(#25)[Sky] 3.982.165 Military Units 03:21:52-2010/05/07
Salabanzi
05-07-2010, 03:25
I think its not gonna end well for that guy :sneaky:
Max Logan
05-07-2010, 05:24
Now, Now!
Whom did you offend last set :p
Last set:
Margus and roel were warred (lol) from the top 1 and 2 by WLF.
Kris was suicided by some random character (probably not so random). Kris had just grabbed the top 2 guy (who got to top2 after margus and roel were suicided) and was probably gonna take down devil as well.
This set:
Margus was safe from beeno, kris had better standing than margus anyway. I was behind beeno (quite far), but if kris and margus would have been 1 and 2, then pretty sure I could have reached beeno. If not then suiciding 3 states from top5 is pretty awesome anyway.
Last set:
Margus and roel were warred (lol) from the top 1 and 2 by WLF.
Kris was suicided by some random character (probably not so random). Kris had just grabbed the top 2 guy (who got to top2 after margus and roel were suicided) and was probably gonna take down devil as well.
After margus and roel got hit last set i wasnt going to get touched...
Its sad to see SKY players keep getting hit over and over again. This set i was going to make sure LoR didnt hit you guys.
Last set:
Margus and roel were warred (lol) from the top 1 and 2 by WLF.
It was that nghghghn guy from Lor that AAed and grabbed them to knock them out of 1st and 2nd.
Then while we were trying to recover WLF warred us and killed everyone.
:thumbdown:
After margus and roel got hit last set i wasnt going to get touched...
Its sad to see SKY players keep getting hit over and over again. This set i was going to make sure LoR didnt hit you guys.
well i would not asume it will be over for a while...
Died for your Sins intresting choice of state name since no one died except well you know that state sooninsh by the look of it :P
Good point totte.
Just a remark. After nhn initally took margus down, then margus went to top1 again... And then came wlf.
And, how can you, devil, be sure that kris wouldnt had reached you? I saw him grab beeno and go ~even land with you guys.
i let me turns get too high when that grab went down last set. bad market for indy.
Mr President
05-07-2010, 09:28
hey totte.. Regarding that question you asked me and I said I didn't know, well now you have your answer.. :) Go get em tiger!!!!
hey totte.. Regarding that question you asked me and I said I didn't know, well now you have your answer.. :) Go get em tiger!!!!
true :)*unleaches mr p* ;)
Cemetary
05-07-2010, 12:54
normally im the one that wastes turns hitting sky states :/
but, i didnt want to piss u guys off by grabbing when i saw those AAsso instead i grabbed him:
SA ThE CeMeTaRy(#10)[DaK] Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] 856 Land / 469 Buildings, 12.298 Food 03:48:38-2010/05/07
SA ThE CeMeTaRy(#10)[DaK] Died for your Sins(#100)[Wank] 1.414 Land / 774 Buildings, 12.422 Food 03:48:36-2010/05/07
Also, i would like to state that i waited until AFTER Kris hit that guy twice before grabbing
just in case u guys try to find reason to kill my pathetic state :/
You know, I believe that if I were Sky, I would come out swinging every set in retaliation of all the back handed hits on Sky states. What is it, jealousy that they can play up top every set? This is really getting to be aggrivating.
Now, if my stating this gets me attacked, attack me, I am not speaking for my nation and they have no bearing on my opinion of what you guys keep doing to Sky.
well last month is they were in horde not sky
Good point totte.
And, how can you, devil, be sure that kris wouldnt had reached you? I saw him grab beeno and go ~even land with you guys.
i had over 250 more turns than him ;)
Mr President
05-07-2010, 14:33
I don't believe this is a random suicide.. if you all remember correctly a certain state vowed revenge this set for actions made last set.
I'm not 100% positive it's him so i won't accuse anyone.. I just "feel" that this recent attack on Sky was revenge from last set.
::LD::GrimReapr
05-07-2010, 16:47
I find this amusing because it doesnt matter who did it. Someone always does it to someone else whether it be jelousy because of being up top or just proving a point on what units said player has or even my favorite just because for poops and giggles.
I don't believe this is a random suicide.. if you all remember correctly a certain state vowed revenge this set for actions made last set.
I'm not 100% positive it's him so i won't accuse anyone.. I just "feel" that this recent attack on Sky was revenge from last set.
it's Ali..
Mr President
05-07-2010, 21:11
I find this amusing because it doesnt matter who did it. Someone always does it to someone else whether it be jelousy because of being up top or just proving a point on what units said player has or even my favorite just because for poops and giggles.
lol never fails... We can go a couple of sets and nothing like this happens and you don't show up.. But then it happens and you pop on to see what is happening lol..
Even though suiciding still happens, it really is at a all time low. The problem with everything is there are people who care more about themselves than they do the good of the game. They could care less if it drives 25 players away, just as long as they satisfied their own itch.. It was the downfall of WoW and unless people grow up and let things go and not carry such harsh grudges, it will be the death of this game too..
Honestly it drives me crazy. There are a lot of people who bust their butts getting new players to join and just when we get a couple steps ahead something like this happens and brings us 3 steps back.
lol never fails... We can go a couple of sets and nothing like this happens and you don't show up.. But then it happens and you pop on to see what is happening lol..
you don't see the coincidence? :laugh:
Soviet Russia
05-08-2010, 04:39
it's Ali..
ahahahaha :D
@Mr P
It is too sad that 'just' the domination itself does not lead to war anymore :( People always cry for some 'legitimate' reasons T_T (Im not favoring suiciding thou)
ahahahaha :D
@Mr P
It is too sad that 'just' the domination itself does not lead to war anymore :( People always cry for some 'legitimate' reasons T_T (Im not favoring suiciding thou)
there is a diffrence between war and suicideing thou :P
there is a diffrence between war and suicideing thou :P
SRS's definition of 'suiciding' is ever fluctuating.
Shabaz K
05-08-2010, 13:39
its just plain grudge carried over from last set, aster SKY got involved with horde and w/e the other nation was.
but i think they should atleast have one set to play with.
Max Logan
05-09-2010, 18:23
They`re just easy target. they never have any unit besides inf until only they secured top spots. until then you can easy hit them. unless they change it, they`ll be a target for sets to come and they can only blame themselves
Max Logan
05-09-2010, 18:23
SRS's definition of 'suiciding' is ever fluctuating.
lol
now I know why I like you
disturbia
05-09-2010, 19:55
They`re just easy target. they never have any unit besides inf until only they secured top spots. until then you can easy hit them. unless they change it, they`ll be a target for sets to come and they can only blame themselves
just like any other netting state first week every set.. doesnt matter if the netter is kanman, beeno or somebody from sky. at first everybody go full inf. but somehow only sky gets hit. maybe its because sky state is always up there, or maybe its just coincidence..
just like any other netting state first week every set.. doesnt matter if the netter is kanman, beeno or somebody from sky. at first everybody go full inf. but somehow only sky gets hit. maybe its because sky state is always up there, or maybe its just coincidence..
i can tel you that its rare to see someone up top with 200mil inf and less than 200k ar or aa defense...
unless your looking at a sky state
Missionary
05-09-2010, 20:50
just like any other netting state first week every set.. doesnt matter if the netter is kanman, beeno or somebody from sky. at first everybody go full inf. but somehow only sky gets hit. maybe its because sky state is always up there, or maybe its just coincidence..
yes but the other states that go up there (beeno, kanny, devil) go high inf for the 1st week or how ever long they do it. the whole time they have some sort of defence on everything else how ever low it is. but SKY states have extermly small amounts, often no other defence, for alot longer to try to get ahead. its something SKY states try risking set in set out n wonder why it happens. people get bored of seeing the same states do exactly the same thing set in set out when they are so easy to kill. why should a state like that win the set? when anyone whos play all there turns for the 1st 2-3 weeks can easily kill the top SKY states? thats not a state that should win, and thats the reason they dont.
I can assure you that when we got hit, then noone in top10 had more ships than us.
And beeno can upgrade because sky got hit.
Max Logan
05-10-2010, 02:17
so the top SKy state I opped yestrday was just...hiding his units, right? he doesn`t even do spy ops, other state does it for him!
com`on! you don`t expect it to pull through, esp knowing how people love to hit top states for target practice
They're just begging to be 'hatecrimed'.
With 50k ships or jets ;)
if you mean that i had more ships than all 3 sky states combined when you said no-one had more ships than sky states then yes blaa you are correct. and i'm talking about just the day before you were hit with AA's.
They're just begging to be 'hatecrimed'.
With 50k ships or jets ;)
don't exaggerate, its less than that
i can tel you that its rare to see someone up top with 200mil inf and less than 200k ar or aa defense...
unless your looking at a sky state
so the top SKy state I opped yestrday was just...hiding his units, right? he doesn`t even do spy ops, other state does it for him!
com`on! you don`t expect it to pull through, esp knowing how people love to hit top states for target practice
They're just begging to be 'hatecrimed'.
With 50k ships or jets ;)
don't exaggerate, its less than that
oh cmon people. I understand that whoring inf gives some advantages at the first week of set, like not wasting ~5mil inf on selling and upgrading ships when every mil inf counts on your race for top1 spot, and THEN I can understand why people are upset. But Moradon has lost 47mil inf when he got AA-d and still doesn't want to give up the top1 spot and is trying hard not to loose beeno on the netrace.. but because he has lost so much, every mil inf counts and it isn't an option for him to upgrade if he wants to compete for top1 spot.
Imagine wasting a lot of time waiting for expanders at start, trying to get good grabs and waiting for the perfect moment to jump to top. When you succeed with the jump, thinking that the next day you're going to upgrade, but after just few hours you get suicided AGAIN, just like last time you netted and before that (and some times being warred when you've got everything upgraded). You loose like half of your army but still don't want to give up. You try your best and have a chance for top1 again, but the people are whining that you have full inf and say it's basically all your own fault you got suicided, not even caring that you lost so much and still dont want to give up. I think still trying like Moradon is at the moment is honorable, but you people just dont care and only find reasons how to blame us, and that is not cool.
Moradon knows the risk at the moment and if he had an option, he would upgrade ASAP, but he doesn't. Btw, if you produce 100% ships or 100% infantry, then ships are stronger. If Kris had ships upgraded at the moment, he could have more chance in grabbing beeno, but he just cant waste the money on upgrading at the moment unless he wants to be Beenos farm.
Last set I got warred by nhnguyen when I was in Horde. I had everything upgraded and before him AAing me, I had less than 70M inf because I was trying to get good defence. But I wasn't quick enough and nhn sold more than me and got more ships. I hate that nhn guy, because 4-5 sets back when Sky had a war with LoR, nhn landfed (grabbed an ex LoR member who was nationless at the time for like 2k land total. That ex LoR state then deleted himself after nhn grabbing him). Now I see that nhn is back in LoR like nothing happend last set. This set at first I just expanded with like 130% indy tech, just trying to help the nation, but because I was bored I was looking for grabs and got some good ones so I tried to go for top1 spot. When I got it I got AA-d again because someone wanted revenge on Sky because of last set, but I wasn't even in Sky then. Then people blame us for infwhoring when it was the first week of set when we got suicided on. Beeno was full of inf too then, but now you people still prefer Beeno over Moradon, but Beeno wasn't suicided.
Nation wars the only online game I play, but lately I've been thinking what's the point....
Soviet Russia
05-10-2010, 04:52
Here are the facts:
1- I also go full inf this set. There's nothing wrong with that.
2- BUT I won't be crying if I get AA or AR attacked, because its my fault to have no defense.
Thats all.
margus the point people are trying to make is that before you upgrade most states have some defense in each area. especially states running up top.
margus the point people are trying to make is that before you upgrade most states have some defense in each area. especially states running up top.
You didn't have ships upgraded too then, or did you? If you did then there's another reasons for me to believe that you knew about us being suicided before it was done. Because then you must of upgraded ships just hours before the suiciding, and also, you grabbed Kris 2.5h before the preps were declared and Kris then had 2 grabs in and they were dropping in 3 and 7 hours at that time I think. If we wouldn't got suicided then it would of been a very very foolish move, but if you knew we would be AA-d out of TOP, grabbing Kris before the war would of been the perfect move. I know I can't be 100 percent sure and I'm sorry for accusing you without sure proof, but that's just what I think : )
Here are the facts:
1- I also go full inf this set. There's nothing wrong with that.
2- BUT I won't be crying if I get AA or AR attacked, because its my fault to have no defense.
Thats all.
1 - It's impossible to be top1 and have secure defense against suiciders. At least not in the first ~10 days of the set. A state with ~500-600 turns made could suicide Beeno at the moment.
1 - It's impossible to be top1 and have secure defense against suiciders. At least not in the first ~10 days of the set. A state with ~500-600 turns made could suicide Beeno at the moment.
my 800k nw state has better aa and ar defense than moradon. but thats not the argument. The thing is suiciders know sky states dont defend them self ever. Your states leave your self open to suiciders that using 300 turns could wreck your state. People know this and your just an easy target and they can do heavy damage with low amount of effort, thats what were pointing out, your making it very easy to suicide.
100% Ships doesnt not give you more strength than 100% inf, It gives your more NW not Str.
And i wasnt happy with what nhn did last set. However Estonains have suicided before when they lost the #1 spot, you guys have done it more than once so don't play innocent on that. Nhn is still a LoR member and im not going to banish him from the nation for his one act. If you have a problem with it you can always declare war on us.
my 800k nw state has better aa and ar defense than moradon. but thats not the argument. The thing is suiciders know sky states dont defend them self ever. Your states leave your self open to suiciders that using 300 turns could wreck your state. People know this and your just an easy target and they can do heavy damage with low amount of effort, thats what were pointing out, your making it very easy to suicide.
Next time I net I'll upgrade ships before inf and jump with only ships, but then people will probably think I'm a threat with that amount of ships and start a war. But we'll see, I'll defenitely try it out.
And i wasnt happy with what nhn did last set. However Estonains have suicided before when they lost the #1 spot, you guys have done it more than once so don't play innocent on that. Nhn is still a LoR member and im not going to banish him from the nation for his one act. If you have a problem with it you can always declare war on us.
I'm sorry but I can't remember even one time when Sky has suicided on anyone when we have lost a top spot. Please refreshen my memory. And please don't say like 'back in the day in WOW', because that's history and I wasn't part of it, I've only net there twice and no suiciding was done those 2 sets.
100% Ships doesnt not give you more strength than 100% inf, It gives your more NW not Str.
Ships are a lot stronger than infantry. For example if you buy inf with 10bil and ships with 10 bil (max price for both), you get 2.2m inf worth stronger Str with ships. Do the math. Inf is just cheap to upgrade at first, has low expenses, it's easy to sell + most nations have it much in their NA. BUT ships are way stronger. Ships used to be the strongest but now for the last sets bombers have been the strongest. I think Mr P has changed their strength by a lot.
Cemetary
05-10-2010, 10:00
DaK did not have a password, I booted #135 as soon as i realized Esco didnt invite him in
DaK in no way supports the actions against Kris
Esco and I will save turns and attempt to kill 135 for you sky, im truly sorry for harboring a state, even though I didn't realize I was
lol
I am not sure, but I am almost certain that this is the end of Sky. The players will move on to other nations because playing in Sky is a mistake as well. Just as having some infantry.
Margus explained everything perfectly on the last page. If you fail to understand that, then you think this is a realistic game, where you need to have a balanced army. But this is not a simulation, it is a game of numbers.
Great set beeno! I think i should find your post in the top10 scores thread, where you claimed to be the best player. This set really proves it!
And what are [rotn] thoughts considering the quadruple tap? :P
I personally will clarify with leaders of sky, and discuss how we continue. And maybe, just why the **** not, start a war, just for teh luls of it?
Antichrist
05-10-2010, 10:43
And what are [rotn] thoughts considering the quadruple tap? :P
Its a matter between ROTN and SKY and as far as i´m concerned its ok.
disturbia
05-10-2010, 10:47
And i wasnt happy with what nhn did last set. However Estonains have suicided before when they lost the #1 spot, you guys have done it more than once so don't play innocent on that. Nhn is still a LoR member and im not going to banish him from the nation for his one act. If you have a problem with it you can always declare war on us.
second time u are telling this but when i ask who? u dont know and u dont remember.. why dont u stop telling bs and giving us facts huh?
and countless times lor has suicided me alone.. + i dont know how many times other states in sky. so if i was u i would sit very silently..
Disorder
05-10-2010, 10:55
Ummmmm.... Do we know who the Suicider is?
ooga booga
05-10-2010, 10:57
Some people in this game rely too much in the past. Devil pointed out Sky states suiciding but I can't recall them doing that the past year or 2 in NW. Maybe the first set or 2 when EE was around and skycat was leading but after Kris took over and it was branched off into Sky I think they've been fine (granted I stopped playing the game for 8 months so I could be wrong whatever happened in those sets). I'm a fan of Sky and the Estonians, I like how they play as a unit and are active. Going all/majority inf is a risk anyone takes when going for the top, and sometimes risks don't end up coming out with the result you wanted. This set you got screwed over by an immature kid who lost his own war last set and couldn't handle the humiliation. I'd hate to see anyone leave over that.
As for disorder I think most of us assume it was Z. He cried and whined revenge after last set when he was beat at the own war he/WLF started, and this set I think that state that suicided was him. Could be wrong by that's my logic. :P
You didn't have ships upgraded too then, or did you? If you did then there's another reasons for me to believe that you knew about us being suicided before it was done. Because then you must of upgraded ships just hours before the suiciding, and also, you grabbed Kris 2.5h before the preps were declared and Kris then had 2 grabs in and they were dropping in 3 and 7 hours at that time I think. If we wouldn't got suicided then it would of been a very very foolish move, but if you knew we would be AA-d out of TOP, grabbing Kris before the war would of been the perfect move. I know I can't be 100 percent sure and I'm sorry for accusing you without sure proof, but that's just what I think : )
Margus, if you dont have proof, or know it for a 100% certain..please dont point fingers. Im a lousy grabber, but Im sure youre right in your view about the grab. I dont know what Beeno`s reasons were for his "foolish move".
But I can asure you that its more coincidence then a set-up..or someone tipping off Beeno.
If your going to suicide Beeno for him not being hit, your the same as your suicider. Dont try to put the blame on others. If your upset...go to your aggressor.if you try something on any ABT member, your plain jealous.
Next time I net I'll upgrade ships before inf and jump with only ships, but then people will probably think I'm a threat with that amount of ships and start a war. But we'll see, I'll defenitely try it out.
I'm sorry but I can't remember even one time when Sky has suicided on anyone when we have lost a top spot. Please refreshen my memory. And please don't say like 'back in the day in WOW', because that's history and I wasn't part of it, I've only net there twice and no suiciding was done those 2 sets.
Ships are a lot stronger than infantry. For example if you buy inf with 10bil and ships with 10 bil (max price for both), you get 2.2m inf worth stronger Str with ships. Do the math. Inf is just cheap to upgrade at first, has low expenses, it's easy to sell + most nations have it much in their NA. BUT ships are way stronger. Ships used to be the strongest but now for the last sets bombers have been the strongest. I think Mr P has changed their strength by a lot.
I'm pretty sure the point here is not to jump 100% of anything, it doesn't matter if its ships or infantry or jets. :thumbup:
disturbia
05-10-2010, 11:08
why should a state like that win the set? when anyone whos play all there turns for the 1st 2-3 weeks can easily kill the top SKY states? thats not a state that should win, and thats the reason they dont.
i would disagree with that one too..
when we have perfectly balanced state (roel every time he got suicided, margus last set) = we get suicided
u really think that having 10 times more aa defence (500k instead of 50k lvl1) it would make a difference? after we are getting suicided ANYWAY?
but if we do survive first week.. we have more balanced state than any others (because we have the most enemies it seems). if u are unsure, go look old scores. none of our state has won with badly balanced states.
Great set beeno! I think i should find your post in the top10 scores thread, where you claimed to be the best player. This set really proves it!
you missed the point of that post blaa. i was trying to point out to dolly that their are many other netters who can win or have won. i mentioned myself because i really think i can out net the best in the game. :)
margus beat me this month, not the first time. kris gave me a run, not the first time. i happen to think kris is one of those players she forgot to mention.
::LD::GrimReapr
05-10-2010, 11:23
lol never fails... We can go a couple of sets and nothing like this happens and you don't show up.. But then it happens and you pop on to see what is happening lol..
Even though suiciding still happens, it really is at a all time low. The problem with everything is there are people who care more about themselves than they do the good of the game. They could care less if it drives 25 players away, just as long as they satisfied their own itch.. It was the downfall of WoW and unless people grow up and let things go and not carry such harsh grudges, it will be the death of this game too..
Honestly it drives me crazy. There are a lot of people who bust their butts getting new players to join and just when we get a couple steps ahead something like this happens and brings us 3 steps back.
1. If you think I suicided someone any set your wrong.
2. If you think I suicided any set you dont know me very well either.
3. I have allready admitted to doing terroristic acions of blowing up buildings and destroying money.
4. Coincidence none I stop in and check the forums from time to time because Im waiting for some more changes to be made before I come back.
Margus, if you dont have proof, or know it for a 100% certain..please dont point fingers. Im a lousy grabber, but Im sure youre right in your view about the grab. I dont know what Beeno`s reasons were for his "foolish move".
But I can asure you that its more coincidence then a set-up..or someone tipping off Beeno.
If your going to suicide Beeno for him not being hit, your the same as your suicider. Dont try to put the blame on others. If your upset...go to your aggressor.if you try something on any ABT member, your plain jealous.
I'm not putting blame on anyone, or at least I don't think that Beeno was behind the suiciding. I just thought that Beeno knew about it. I didn't say anything about it too in my first post in this thread, but when Beeno said something about the defenses, then I just had to point it out, because Beeno didn't have ships upgraded just few hours before the preps. I just think he should shush and enjoy his current top1 spot : )
And if I wanted to suicide then I would of done it already, but I don't like suicing because I think it's too easy.
Max Logan
05-10-2010, 12:33
I'm not putting blame on anyone, or at least I don't think that Beeno was behind the suiciding. I just thought that Beeno knew about it. I didn't say anything about it too in my first post in this thread, but when Beeno said something about the defenses, then I just had to point it out, because Beeno didn't have ships upgraded just few hours before the preps. I just think he should shush and enjoy his current top1 spot : )
And if I wanted to suicide then I would of done it already, but I don't like suicing because I think it's too easy.
I had more defences then BeeNo :P
And I`m not one to bother. Just that getting hit for luls, finally made me do something. better play safe than sorry
and Moradon going all INF after being suicided once this set was stupid. it`s foolish to think the suicider will not use his chance again!
and a comment on Dolly saying it`s a number game - you`re right...but this time, the numbers were against you...the ones that matter. 2m ships would`ve helped a lot, and it`s not much for a state this old
Achilles
05-10-2010, 12:54
The suicider is Z of course.
I dont get why he didnt hit me, I also dont have a lot of ships. I challenge you to suicide my state :laugh:
To anyone who says going full or allmost full inf is bad, Ive never seen you on top. ( not that im doing so fine, but im missing 300 turns)
About the quadriple grabs, this is something between sky and us.
Max - Better safe than sorry = never in the top1.
Ships are a lot stronger than infantry. For example if you buy inf with 10bil and ships with 10 bil (max price for both), you get 2.2m inf worth stronger Str with ships. Do the math. Inf is just cheap to upgrade at first, has low expenses, it's easy to sell + most nations have it much in their NA. BUT ships are way stronger. Ships used to be the strongest but now for the last sets bombers have been the strongest. I think Mr P has changed their strength by a lot.
You're right about ships being stronger for the money but with the upkeep cost would drown your state.
I never said Sky suicided, i said estonians as in EE, dont give me this **** about it being in the past because you just said something about LoR'ers suiciding, you've done it before (estonians) to help friends to get to the top spot, dolly can you give me the exact details on when LoR members suicided besides nhn last set? I doubt it because its the past and people forget the minor details
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fix it for ya: :P
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Max Logan
05-11-2010, 07:27
Max - Better safe than sorry = never in the top1.
according to last few sets and in early WoW... :laugh:
not so true
KelpKris
05-11-2010, 08:32
I had more defences then BeeNo :P
And I`m not one to bother. Just that getting hit for luls, finally made me do something. better play safe than sorry
and Moradon going all INF after being suicided once this set was stupid. it`s foolish to think the suicider will not use his chance again!
and a comment on Dolly saying it`s a number game - you`re right...but this time, the numbers were against you...the ones that matter. 2m ships would`ve helped a lot, and it`s not much for a state this old
I could play 5 min per day and still suicide any state I want for at least first 2 weeks, so what's the point of running a "balanced state". It's not about how balanced your state is or what defences you have. If someone decides to suicide you, there is almost no way you can prevent it.
And I don't expect you to understand this, but I did the math and made the right decisions, because I was able to get into situation where BeeNo couldn't grab me either and was forced to spend turns, like me. If I would have produced 2m ships instead infantry, I wouldn't have been able to get the necessary power.
according to last few sets and in early WoW... :laugh:
not so true
Better netters have always won.
You think devil and beeno ran a so called balanced state last set? Nah, they upgraded when they saw they are not in the race for top1.
This set beeno inf *****d the same.
:laugh:
Better netters have always won.
You think devil and beeno ran a so called balanced state last set? Nah, they upgraded when they saw they are not in the race for top1.
This set beeno inf *****d the same.
:laugh:
thats not the point about upgrades. ill even have 500k + lv1 protection just because its shows im not inf hording
Have you read this thread?
Having 500k lvl ships is like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village .
Aand, I had ~300k lvl1 ships. Margus had 100k lvl1 ships after those AAs, so he probably had ~200k-300k as well.
Final conclusion for me (from this thread):
* You are stupid if you can not find a reason for suiciding.
Max Logan
05-11-2010, 09:28
I could play 5 min per day and still suicide any state I want for at least first 2 weeks, so what's the point of running a "balanced state". It's not about how balanced your state is or what defences you have. If someone decides to suicide you, there is almost no way you can prevent it.
And I don't expect you to understand this, but I did the math and made the right decisions, because I was able to get into situation where BeeNo couldn't grab me either and was forced to spend turns, like me. If I would have produced 2m ships instead infantry, I wouldn't have been able to get the necessary power.
and that`s what you risk
either get a decent defence to be able to alteast minimize the damage, or pray you have a nice face.
your whole nation was wiped clean because NOONE had defences to protect themselves. that`s not a good tone esp after last set.
and the 2nd suicider was a lame *** state with a few Ks of ships. com`on! I understand that a stocker state can easily suicide anyone aroudn this time by just buying a few ships, but what happaned to you...well :p
wow its been 7 years since ive played and the arguments are still the same, we all know that noone is safe because all it takes is one tiny state to ruin a netting set for ya. and yet everyone keeps playing just hoping that they can survive and come out with a good finish.
Mr President
05-11-2010, 14:35
Better netters have always won.
You think devil and beeno ran a so called balanced state last set? Nah, they upgraded when they saw they are not in the race for top1.
This set beeno inf *****d the same.
:laugh:
Devil could be in the top spot with nothing but infantry and nobody would suicide him.. The few people who choose each set to "police" this way of playing are pretty choosy on who they hit and don't hit..
Mr President
05-11-2010, 14:37
wow its been 7 years since ive played and the arguments are still the same, we all know that noone is safe because all it takes is one tiny state to ruin a netting set for ya. and yet everyone keeps playing just hoping that they can survive and come out with a good finish.
lol yea.. it's funny how these arguments continue on.. Everyone wants excitement but yet if we safeguard everything then things would be very boring..
Cemetary
05-12-2010, 09:44
Devil could be in the top spot with nothing but infantry and nobody would suicide him.. The few people who choose each set to "police" this way of playing are pretty choosy on who they hit and don't hit..
id be willing to suicide any1 who has only infantry.. im not really picky, but im too lazy to care
im happy with #10 spot, i dont need first lol
thats why i normally have a balanced state
you could also make the argument that if EVERYONE ran a semi balanced state, then you could run a top state with one, since everyone has it
but then, the top person would probably have the least balanced state, so people would still suicide, and state it is because their state wasn't balanced enough.
what the **** is balance?
Max Logan
05-12-2010, 14:32
Figures :laugh:
ooga booga
05-12-2010, 18:55
what the **** is balance?
Having the exact same amount of jets and ships as inf. :P So 20 mil inf, 20 mil jets, and 20 mil ships lol. What, you mean to tell me that's not what people run? :(
On a serious note: To the Sky states, I think what everyone was trying to say is that if you are the easiest target (least defenses) then you will have a higher chance of being hit. Having 1 mil AR and AA defense isn't much but will often make a suicider keep looking for an easier target (under the circumstances he has multiple targets). I don't think it would have helped much anyway, Z is immature enough that he's going to suicide and cry until he gets his attention or his way. So for this particular instance I don't think it mattered what your defense would have been.
what the **** is balance?
not 200mil inf, 15k jets and 8k ships
Calvin74
05-12-2010, 22:03
not 200mil inf, 15k jets and 8k ships
yeah that is way to many jets....
The reason why Sky is getting hit is not some sort of witchcraft (balance you say), it is the fact that kris, margus, roel have outnetted everybody way too much.
You can create fake excuses as much as you want.
And, having 500k of ships instead of 5k is an example of potemkin village. Suicider does not care.
Max Logan
05-13-2010, 01:46
In the long run - you messed it for yourselves
either by pissing of with full inf and tempting for a hit
or jumping the gun when you should`ve stayed out
both got you here
KelpKris
05-13-2010, 05:10
not 200mil inf, 15k jets and 8k ships
Like I said, I had no other option. And you serve it as we would always have 200+m inf without any defences. In reality all of those running for top should look into the mirror, because we don't differ from any of them when it comes to strategy. It's a pity I haven't copied intels from previous sets, but I still have been in top and have kept the eye on other top states long enough to claim this. Besides Margus and Roel had good defences last set, but did it help them? nhn tired to whip out their states and on the same time you conveniently didn't know anything about it.
KelpKris
05-13-2010, 05:12
DaK did not have a password, I booted #135 as soon as i realized Esco didnt invite him in
DaK in no way supports the actions against Kris
Esco and I will save turns and attempt to kill 135 for you sky, im truly sorry for harboring a state, even though I didn't realize I was
The next time you try to help, don't steal the kill.
KelpKris
05-13-2010, 05:19
In the long run - you messed it for yourselves
either by pissing of with full inf and tempting for a hit
or jumping the gun when you should`ve stayed out
both got you here
And do you know why I jumped in the war?
The reason why Sky is getting hit is not some sort of witchcraft (balance you say), it is the fact that kris, margus, roel have outnetted everybody way too much.
You can create fake excuses as much as you want.
And, having 500k of ships instead of 5k is an example of potemkin village. Suicider does not care.
Don't cry to me about getting suicided, ive been hit my fair share of times... mostly because of LoR's warring history so i know what its like to get suicided on set after set.
You can say its an excuse or whatever because your running heavy inf that its just an excuse to hit you guys or whatever but you bring it upon yourselves. You know there are players out there like Rass who will AA you for the sake that your inf hording.
You know maybe next time ill be stocking jump up and AA/BR a top state with extremely low AA or BR defense just to grab, we will see how things play out then.
And as far as top netters always go inf heavy.... i don't think i've ever seen Tnova up top with pathetically low AA/AR defense, but then again maybe you guys aren't as good as him.
dunno whos rass, but he seems to be a attention ***** :/
There are plenty of guys in ~50th spot with only inf.
Wish Tnova would comment on your statement. Would be lovely to hear how he won all those sets having upgraded early in the set and being 'balanced'.
Oh, and 'pathetically low ar/aa defence'
dude, you do the same thing :D
well i can tell you that Tnova was always balanced its what he always taught protecting the NA during the beginning and then when you jump make sure you always have plenty of AA/AR defense otherwise someone was bound to try and take you down just because they can.
Soviet Russia
05-13-2010, 11:02
Its more fun to kill the stockers before they jump
The reason why Sky is getting hit is not some sort of witchcraft (balance you say), it is the fact that kris, margus, roel have outnetted everybody way too much.
You can create fake excuses as much as you want.
And, having 500k of ships instead of 5k is an example of potemkin village. Suicider does not care.
There are many reasons why people would hit you. Sometimes it is because you are number 1 and sometimes a good netter hits you and there is nothing you can do. Sometimes it is because your defenses are not good enough. You just can't give them any excuses. It won't stop every suicider every round, but it will stop some of them.
I do think it is harder to upgrade early these days though. With top states not being as good, you can get away w/ stocking in the top 10 - being able to hit most states while still having a ton of turns on hand. In the old days, if you were on top for 72 hours, you were gone and it's just not as true anymore.
Mr President
05-13-2010, 12:00
1. If you think I suicided someone any set your wrong.
2. If you think I suicided any set you dont know me very well either.
3. I have allready admitted to doing terroristic acions of blowing up buildings and destroying money.
4. Coincidence none I stop in and check the forums from time to time because Im waiting for some more changes to be made before I come back.
Grim I think you took my post wrong.. I was trying to state that when you not around nothing happens and then when something happens you come around.. So that makes you feel like nothing has changed so you stay away longer.. I didn't mean to make it sound like you were the cause of any of the trouble.. You were/are a fair player and haven't ever played like that.. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way.. I should have been more clear. :)
Wish Tnova would comment on your statement. Would be lovely to hear how he won all those sets having upgraded early in the set and being 'balanced'.
Um you could just ask me.... I mean after all who do you think taught Tnova how to be so good?
lmao
anyway, this is an ineresting post. Nobody is ever going to change their ways of playing.. There will always be those who have large amounts of infantry and there will always those who seek revenge in the form of suiciding, and there will always be those who feel people should play the way they want them to play.
Changing the code will solve one problem but then open up 2 or 3 more. There will never be a way to solve all the issues with the game 100%. Why is it always the game that has to change and not the people? Why can't people have respect for others?
This is a game of netting and warring. This is a game of diplomacy. This is a game of challenge. This is a game of nations. This is a game where people come to escape real life for a little while. This is just a game!
Some people need to respect those who work hard at creating a large state.. Even if they get there by means they wouldn't do themselves. Some states who are good will aways be seeked out. It goes with the territory.. If i am in a nation who goes to war, I am killed within the first 3 targets. Even if my state sucks.. (which normally does lol ) but it goes with the territory. Now what if I decided to quit playing? Sucks to be you! lol
Everyone wants to have fun. So lets have fun. But if your hitting the same states/nations set after set then what fun is that? Just be smart and respectful of others and things will be a lot better.
Grim I think you took my post wrong.. I was trying to state that when you not around nothing happens and then when something happens you come around.. So that makes you feel like nothing has changed so you stay away longer.. I didn't mean to make it sound like you were the cause of any of the trouble.. You were/are a fair player and haven't ever played like that.. Sorry if you took my post the wrong way.. I should have been more clear. :)
Um you could just ask me.... I mean after all who do you think taught Tnova how to be so good?
lmao
anyway, this is an ineresting post. Nobody is ever going to change their ways of playing.. There will always be those who have large amounts of infantry and there will always those who seek revenge in the form of suiciding, and there will always be those who feel people should play the way they want them to play.
Changing the code will solve one problem but then open up 2 or 3 more. There will never be a way to solve all the issues with the game 100%. Why is it always the game that has to change and not the people? Why can't people have respect for others?
This is a game of netting and warring. This is a game of diplomacy. This is a game of challenge. This is a game of nations. This is a game where people come to escape real life for a little while. This is just a game!
Some people need to respect those who work hard at creating a large state.. Even if they get there by means they wouldn't do themselves. Some states who are good will aways be seeked out. It goes with the territory.. If i am in a nation who goes to war, I am killed within the first 3 targets. Even if my state sucks.. (which normally does lol ) but it goes with the territory. Now what if I decided to quit playing? Sucks to be you! lol
Everyone wants to have fun. So lets have fun. But if your hitting the same states/nations set after set then what fun is that? Just be smart and respectful of others and things will be a lot better.
stamps post with the totte aproval stamp ;)
To the long list of 'this is a game of...' I would like to add:
*This is a game of numbers
*This is not a game of balance.
Numbers are defined, you can understand numbers only 1 way. No way to misinterpret them. Balance is vague, balance is not defined, numerous ways to interpret balance.
I mean, should you not go 100% ships in the last days of the ships? Maybe you should buy/produce some infantry as well? For the sake of balance?
disturbia
05-13-2010, 20:27
dolly can you give me the exact details on when LoR members suicided besides nhn last set? I doubt it because its the past and people forget the minor details
devil.. u werent here, i cant blame u, but then dont act like nothing happened while u werent here.
ask from kanman or ali.. sure they remember.
i know skycat has suicided lots of times, i used to be one of the targets, but sure not because one of the currently playing estonians needed it to gain top1 spot.
and about nhn.. im really disappointed he suicided last set.. i didnt expect that.. others can say that i was one of his fans from wow times.. but i guess alot has changed when u began leading a nation again.. netter became suicider...
id be willing to suicide any1 who has only infantry.. im not really picky, but im too lazy to care
and yet u suicided me in december set.. when i wasnt even top1.. and we all had balanced states.. i wonder why me, i must be special! or u are just trying to hide that you are really picky
i just have to add something... since i saw kanman here i use him as my example.. i have netted with kanny in my past atleast 2-3 times.. he have outnetted me, i have outnetted him.. but we both ALWAYS had nearly full inf til it was 'safe' to upgrade everything else..so i net for top1 and i go full inf, i dont care if i get suicided. the only thing i do care about, is if somebody could beat me. and if that somebody will beat me, i will care. and what i also care about, is if my opponent that goes full inf gets suicided. cos i want him there. so if i was beeno.. i would cry if estonians get suicided. cos i would like to beat them with my own 'balanced' strategy, to show im better. if my competitor is suiceded down its half the win.
thats my 0.02, but since everybody wanna see only what they like to see, i stop...its gonna be my last post and probably im not gonna be around anymore. so good luck and have fun :)
Cemetary
05-13-2010, 21:12
and yet u suicided me in december set.. when i wasnt even top1.. and we all had balanced states.. i wonder why me, i must be special! or u are just trying to hide that you are really picky
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yea.. idk who you are in game actually so..
if you were in sky, you were probably one of the highest members or one i could actually break.. plus it looks as if i was all jets, i doubt my "suicide" was more than just a few ars probably didnt even make u lose a spot
Cemetary
05-13-2010, 21:13
The next time you try to help, don't steal the kill.
i didnt mean to.. i saw u guys were attacking, i only had like 50 turns so i started attacking too, just my luck that i happened to get the kill
Cemetary
05-13-2010, 21:16
not 200mil inf, 15k jets and 8k ships
yeah that is way to many jets....
i actually l-o-l'd
disturbia
05-13-2010, 21:23
yea.. idk who you are in game actually so..
if you were in sky, you were probably one of the highest members or one i could actually break.. plus it looks as if i was all jets, i doubt my "suicide" was more than just a few ars probably didnt even make u lose a spot
so u do admit u are picky. thank you! that was all i wanted to prove
and u were able to break everybody, the only reason i didnt lose my spot was because Tnova loves me:wub:
Max Logan
05-14-2010, 09:05
so u do admit u are picky. thank you! that was all i wanted to prove
and u were able to break everybody, the only reason i didnt lose my spot was because Tnova loves me:wub:
Tnova is such a cutie when he wants to! ;)
Soviet Russia
05-15-2010, 02:25
yea.. idk who you are in game actually so..
if you were in sky, you were probably one of the highest members or one i could actually break.. plus it looks as if i was all jets, i doubt my "suicide" was more than just a few ars probably didnt even make u lose a spot
Yep, suiciders/terrorists dont actually care or know who is their target. It is just the feeling of "oh look at that state, its totally defenceless.. let him suffer for that" kinda..
KelpKris
05-15-2010, 05:06
Yep, suiciders/terrorists dont actually care or know who is their target. It is just the feeling of "oh look at that state, its totally defenceless.. let him suffer for that" kinda..
Don't think you can call a state with 30-40M lvl8 AGM-s totally defenceless.
Max Logan
05-15-2010, 13:02
Don't think you can call a state with 30-40M lvl8 AGM-s totally defenceless.
****, I`m defenseless lol
But i can call a
3m spies
180m infantry
100k AGM
4m ships
state defenseless ;)
Why defend the suiciders so much?
(this goes to abt, lor)
I mean. Kris and margus outnetted you this set, and all of a sudden you guys are the 'real' pros? Hours before the attacks beeno had full inf as well, I do not understand what part of his body thinks it is ok to pound his arm onto his chest and claim that he is the real winner of this set?
Soviet Russia
05-16-2010, 03:39
Why defend the suiciders so much?
(this goes to abt, lor)
I mean. Kris and margus outnetted you this set, and all of a sudden you guys are the 'real' pros? Hours before the attacks beeno had full inf as well, I do not understand what part of his body thinks it is ok to pound his arm onto his chest and claim that he is the real winner of this set?
C'mon how can they defend this instead:
3m spies
180m infantry
100k AGM
4m ships
dunno
I have no need to produce agms. So I dont produce them. If somebody wants to suicide/war me because of that, fine. But I dont see how other netters should go like "yeah, I am better than you, I had 1m AR defence".
Max Logan
05-16-2010, 07:54
dunno
I have no need to produce agms. So I dont produce them. If somebody wants to suicide/war me because of that, fine. But I dont see how other netters should go like "yeah, I am better than you, I had 1m AR defence".
no reason to have defenses
got suicided
hit back
try again
Why defend the suiciders so much?
(this goes to abt, lor)
I mean. Kris and margus outnetted you this set, and all of a sudden you guys are the 'real' pros? Hours before the attacks beeno had full inf as well, I do not understand what part of his body thinks it is ok to pound his arm onto his chest and claim that he is the real winner of this set?
well max and xavier just like to talk alot ::oops:
but i'd hardly say i'm pounding my fist against my chest claiming i'm the best. i have played in a few sets where it was me getting AA'd/warred and watched kris and other sky states move into the top spots afterward and held no hard feelings about it towards them.
i don't think any of the top states of this set including me could of stopped the 1st suicides. the 2nd suicide could of been stopped/slowed but i understand why kris played it the way he did. i have admitted in PM's and over MSN that margus had 1st place wrapped up, at least from me catching him. i think everyone could see that.
Why defend the suiciders so much?
(this goes to abt, lor)
I mean. Kris and margus outnetted you this set, and all of a sudden you guys are the 'real' pros? Hours before the attacks beeno had full inf as well, I do not understand what part of his body thinks it is ok to pound his arm onto his chest and claim that he is the real winner of this set?
ABT isnt defending suiciders. We dont like unnecesarry wars and we dont like suiciders. Max and Xav merely are trying to say that youll make it suiciders easy for them with low to very low defenses on some areas.
But besides that there will be always ppl who will suicide over grudges/jealosy or boredom. When you balanced theyll still suicide, they just need to put some effort in the suiciding state.
Why defend the suiciders so much?
(this goes to abt, lor)
I mean. Kris and margus outnetted you this set, and all of a sudden you guys are the 'real' pros? Hours before the attacks beeno had full inf as well, I do not understand what part of his body thinks it is ok to pound his arm onto his chest and claim that he is the real winner of this set?
There's a big difference between defending a suicider and pointing out why someone was suicided.
As I understand, then only 1 person has suicided this set. In statistics the opinion of 1 person means nothing.
I won't change how i play because of abnormalities.
Max Logan
05-16-2010, 13:18
As I understand, then only 1 person has suicided this set. In statistics the opinion of 1 person means nothing.
I won't change how i play because of abnormalities.
we are not talking about statistic. it may mean nothing that just 1 player suicides, but it sure means a lot of it happens set after set.
and there you have a reason to think about your gameplay. I`m not teaching you how to play, just pointing out why you`re not winning
thanks for posting my intel here xavier. Since the state who attacked me didnt fail an intel to me (he had 550k lvl 1, i had 3,3m lvl8 spies), then I think he must have gotten the intel from somebody. He is not a lonely justice ranger after all?
Here are some states with weak 'balance' as well:
Spies: 1.611.674 Level:8
Infantry: 171.557.596 Level:8
Tanks: 1.723 Level:1
Jets: 2.660.578 Level:8
Bombers: 0 Level:1
SAMs: 0 Level:1
Ships: 11.693.147 Level:8
Spies: 537.529 Level:8
Infantry: 270.818.769 Level:8
Tanks: 0 Level:1
Jets: 1.978.992 Level:8
Bombers: 0 Level:1
SAMs: 0 Level:1
Ships: 6.395.671 Level:8
Spies: 367.393 Level:8
Infantry: 236.090.581 Level:8
Tanks: 22.692 Level:1
Jets: 2.195.145 Level:8
Bombers: 0 Level:1
SAMs: 0 Level:1
Ships: 9.581.802 Level:8
Who wants to bet that they won't get hit? And if you tell me that 300k lvl8 agms is so much worse than 2m lvl8 jets then I surrender and say that you have beaten me in this debate.
it is 6x the military strength, is that alot?
Soviet Russia
05-17-2010, 09:56
give the state numbers i wanna terrorise them :P lol look at the spy numbers
Max Logan
05-17-2010, 10:41
i could tell all 3 by heart lol
Salabanzi
05-17-2010, 14:58
Are those three in top ten?:O
yeah thats 3 different days of intel from state #95.
Soviet Russia
05-18-2010, 01:50
yeah thats 3 different days of intel from state #95.
lol :D
i tried mixed strat this set but failed :(
thanks for posting my intel here xavier. Since the state who attacked me didnt fail an intel to me (he had 550k lvl 1, i had 3,3m lvl8 spies), then I think he must have gotten the intel from somebody. He is not a lonely justice ranger after all?
Here are some states with weak 'balance' as well:
Spies: 1.611.674 Level:8
Infantry: 171.557.596 Level:8
Tanks: 1.723 Level:1
Jets: 2.660.578 Level:8
Bombers: 0 Level:1
SAMs: 0 Level:1
Ships: 11.693.147 Level:8
Spies: 537.529 Level:8
Infantry: 270.818.769 Level:8
Tanks: 0 Level:1
Jets: 1.978.992 Level:8
Bombers: 0 Level:1
SAMs: 0 Level:1
Ships: 6.395.671 Level:8
Spies: 367.393 Level:8
Infantry: 236.090.581 Level:8
Tanks: 22.692 Level:1
Jets: 2.195.145 Level:8
Bombers: 0 Level:1
SAMs: 0 Level:1
Ships: 9.581.802 Level:8
Who wants to bet that they won't get hit? And if you tell me that 300k lvl8 agms is so much worse than 2m lvl8 jets then I surrender and say that you have beaten me in this debate.
I don't know about that. All I did was round off some numbers and was replying to Max's post. You're the one here who is explicitly posting intels ;)
If you think I was supplying random states with your intel, go right ahead. Maybe its your giant ego which is blocking your common sense? :)
btw, the fact remains that SKY states have close to 0 AR defense. You get hit, we don't cry for you. You make whine topics, we laugh instead.
Max Logan
05-18-2010, 03:40
I don't know about that. All I did was round off some numbers and was replying to Max's post. You're the one here who is explicitly posting intels ;)
If you think I was supplying random states with your intel, go right ahead. Maybe its your giant ego which is blocking your common sense? :)
btw, the fact remains that SKY states have close to 0 AR defense. You get hit, we don't cry for you. You make whine topics, we laugh instead.
I`m not laughing, I like Sky. I`m just pointing out they should be more careful and cautious! If they get suicided that often, they should heed the warning and improve their gameplay! :)
Xavior fails a spy op on me. Next thing: DaK declares war.
No way I was a good grab for xavior, so dunno why would he spy me :/
So now I have limitations to who I can spy? Just give it up, Blaa. You make it sound like its a great conspiracy and how everyone is out to get you. You can give Anton a run for Mr. Attention *****.
Ok, we have a different opinion on state balance, whatcha gonna do? I agree to disagree, but still think my opinion is better, maybe i am too stubborn :P.
Ok, I will be quiet about these random attacks and 'wars' on sky and the fact that xavior gets in the way too much :D. Sorry if I seemed like I was out for attention or something.
Ok, we have a different opinion on state balance, whatcha gonna do? I agree to disagree, but still think my opinion is better, maybe i am too stubborn :P.
I can agree on this statement.
Ok, I will be quiet about these random attacks and 'wars' on sky and the fact that xavior gets in the way too much :D. Sorry if I seemed like I was out for attention or something.
Sure, as long as you agree that its accidental :thumbup:
Max Logan
05-20-2010, 04:38
I do spy ops just out of curiosity too. I don`t intend to grab everyone I spy op.
Sometimes to see the military setup, NA or strat they are running :)
Soviet Russia
05-20-2010, 11:03
Its good to see more wars :thumbup:
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