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ace of fear
10-03-2008, 05:03
Hey guys.
I don't want to piss of anyone, but here in germany players and admins get really f**king mad about that nation tag.
Dunno if you know the historical problem about this name, but I suggest you, to choose another nation tag next time.

regards
ace

KelpKris
10-03-2008, 06:51
Hey guys.
I don't want to piss of anyone, but here in germany players and admins get really f**king mad about that nation tag.
Dunno if you know the historical problem about this name, but I suggest you, to choose another nation tag next time.

regards
ace

NS is a logical nation tag for Night Stalkers and I strongly don't believe that most in here ever think that NS could have a deeper meaning. I can understand that Germans aren't proud of what happened in the WWII but I'm almost sure that Night Stalkers leader didn't meant to offend someone.

DBozMen
10-03-2008, 07:06
Hey guys.
I don't want to piss of anyone, but here in germany players and admins get really f**king mad about that nation tag.
Dunno if you know the historical problem about this name, but I suggest you, to choose another nation tag next time.

regards
ace

I'm sure that Ooga,Crimson and Andy didn't meant to offend you. Just wait for their response.

Crimson Shadow
10-03-2008, 07:29
It was actually a mix of a couple ideas since we didn't want to steal any previous tag. I didn't realize it was that offensive to Germans.

I apologize and after this set the nation will be renamed.

ace of fear
10-03-2008, 08:25
I believe you, when you say, you didn't want to offend ppl. But since the Nazis/NSDAP/NS did some really bad thing during their reign, this tag is a bit suggestive. For me it's just an unfortunate choice, nothing more.
For political correctness you should change it next set, but I think you don't have to do it to make me or other german player sleep better.

I just wanted to see, if there's something behind it. On my german FL-Server players with NS or SS tags are getting banned immediately, but since we're on an american page, you don't have to be that radical ;-)


thx for your understanding!

Dogma
10-03-2008, 08:34
I really believe that they were doing it after US Spec Ops corps that also have the nick name Night Stalkers. I am sure that they didn't even know of the similarities in the tag with what you speak.

Bright
10-03-2008, 08:52
well, even then, for once the ignorance of most is a good thing (I was one of the ignorant until I read that post and remembered).

northbabylon
10-03-2008, 12:56
We didn't mean to offend anyone, me crimson and ooga. Were in a chat and we kept changing names, or words in the name til we decided that night stalkers was a pretty cool name. Funny thing, i had a dream that it would upset someone...but i guess it came true =/.

So how about you join our nation next set ace =D

ooga booga
10-03-2008, 15:15
I really believe that they were doing it after US Spec Ops corps that also have the nick name Night Stalkers. I am sure that they didn't even know of the similarities in the tag with what you speak.

This is correct. Night Stalkers is the United States 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. Our NS tag stands for Night Stalkers. I guess I don't understand how NS is offensive to Germans... Nazi's = NS? I don't understand. :huh: Crimson please don't go saying we will change our name next set without consulting Andy and I... I think NS is an acceptable tag, not trying to be ignorant, just am uninformed I guess?

Dogma
10-03-2008, 15:18
Why not just change the tag to something lilke [160th] or [para] it doesn't have to be the initials

ooga booga
10-03-2008, 15:27
Why not just change the tag to something lilke [160th] or [para] it doesn't have to be the initials

True. Night Stalkers shouldn't offend anyone so we can keep the name and just change the tag. :) I like 160th. Andy, Crimson and I will talk it over and have it changed for next set most likely. I never thought twice about it, because I didn't think it was offensive to anyone. Sorry Ace if we offended you, was not our intention. :)

ace of fear
10-03-2008, 19:45
This is correct. Night Stalkers is the United States 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. Our NS tag stands for Night Stalkers. I guess I don't understand how NS is offensive to Germans... Nazi's = NS? I don't understand. :huh: Crimson please don't go saying we will change our name next set without consulting Andy and I... I think NS is an acceptable tag, not trying to be ignorant, just am uninformed I guess?

Yeah, Nightstalkers itself sounds pretty good, it's just this tag. NS stands for "National Socialists" or for a short form of "NSDAP" which had been the party that was led by Adolf Hitler. I think you see the point...

ooga booga
10-03-2008, 20:51
Yeah, Nightstalkers itself sounds pretty good, it's just this tag. NS stands for "National Socialists" or for a short form of "NSDAP" which had been the party that was led by Adolf Hitler. I think you see the point...

Ok, thank you clarifying that. Even thinking about WW2 and Nazi's I couldn't get how NS was offensive, lol. The three of us leaders will talk it over and it will be changed for next set. Thanks for letting us know.

Xavior
10-03-2008, 21:19
Applause for you guys then :)

I remember in WoW, sometimes there would be names such as KKK, or Al Qaeda, or whatever, and Svenne would either delete their nation or make them change their name.

Green
10-03-2008, 22:15
I am pretty sure you can't say "war" in Germany among other hilarious stuff. Therefore the name of the game should be renamed because it is offensive and stuff.

Just because I am American doesn't mean I supported the slaughter of Native Americans. Just because I am American doesn't mean I supported slavery.

What I am trying to say is...

GET OVER IT.

Anything any one says from here on out in this thread I will find offensive and will ask you to rename your nation because of it.













((I hope people see where I am trying to go with this post. If not, I can try to explain better ;D))

Tnova
10-03-2008, 23:31
Intent matters. In this case, it is just two words they stuck together that they thought was cool. In no way do i think they should change a tag because the letters NS together are offensive to someone. You can't live life walking on egg shells worrying that you are going to offend someone. There are billions of people in this world, not to mention some thin skinned people at that, and someone is always going to be offended at something.

Now if the nation theme had a bunch of German names, I'd understand complaint. But come on!!NS? That just seems like a stretch to me.

Of course, I've been known to be clueless before. If someone wants to explain what I'm missing I'm all ears.

ace of fear
10-04-2008, 19:26
@Green: You'd wonder what a big trouble is made about the new german right-wing. After all, they're not half as big and dangerous as the media want to make ppl believe. You're right, when you say that in Germany ppl are hypersensitive about the Third Reich and all things connected to it in any way.

@Tnova: More then 40 million dead ppl is in my opinion no small thing. So this thing offends some more ppl, not only a few. And again, I don't want to change them their name, I just wanted to show up the "bad connection" and let the leaders decide.


It makes me a bit sad, that in other countries the sensitivity for the things happened during the 2nd WW isn't as high as it maybe could be...

MAGGIO
10-04-2008, 19:34
if you get fifty more germans to play we will change the name...and ban all nazi related material for every... JK.

but if you could get the 50 it would be cool

Tnova
10-04-2008, 20:27
My whole point was that why should you be offended when what you are referencing is nothing like their intent. If they had a nation description that was inline with it, or a bunch of simular state names, then i'd totally understand how it was offensive to you.

Those two words shouldn't be off limits for the rest of time because of something that happened in the past. How they use the words is what matters in my book.

It just seemed hypersensitive to me. Not trying to minimize the event that happened in the past.

Green
10-04-2008, 21:40
Admit it, Tnova! You are a heartless person with a cold cold heart of stone!

MAGGIO
10-05-2008, 00:45
I wouldnt change my tag if that is what your asking T. It is not even close

FeaRLezZoN3
10-05-2008, 03:58
ok this is getting nowhere, close thread plz. The leaders said they will change their tag next set and thats that.

MAGGIO
10-05-2008, 10:18
I would if Ace said too....your right...