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Divine Intervention
10-08-2008, 20:01
Forums Name State Name Networth Land

Name: chilli cheese fries(#124)[LoR] *CHEATER*
Rank: 0
Networth: $9.852.815
Land: 11.479

Name: mrjack(#259) *CHEATER*
Rank: 0
Networth: $1.960.557
Land: 1.955.

*Cheaters this round*
Forums Name State Name Networth Land
runbch hot sauce of chilli cheese fries(#124)Idiot $9.852.815 11.479
jackhoff jack of mrjack(#259)Idiot $1.960.557 1.955


AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 359.824 Military Units 16:50:48-2008/10/08
SA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 1.855 Land, $876.976, 4.777 Food 16:49:41-2008/10/08
SA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 2.304 Land, $904.099, 4.825 Food 16:48:44-2008/10/08
SA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 2.862 Land, $932.061, 4.874 Food 16:47:55-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 385.114 Military Units 16:46:56-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 405.384 Military Units 16:46:37-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 426.720 Military Units 16:46:16-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 449.178 Military Units 16:45:59-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 472.819 Military Units 16:45:41-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 497.705 Military Units 16:44:46-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 523.900 Military Units 16:44:27-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 551.473 Military Units 16:44:06-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 580.498 Military Units 16:43:35-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 611.051 Military Units 16:43:10-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 643.211 Military Units 16:42:25-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 677.065 Military Units 16:41:47-2008/10/08
AA mrjack(#259)[pro] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 712.700 Military Units 16:41:23-2008/10/08

Well?

Looks like you taught your brother to net 'ok' Kanman, but he is **** at cheating.

So, will the state be rolled back? or is all that time spent playing going to go
down the drain because of a cheater state?

Divine Intervention
10-08-2008, 20:29
i was just told there are no rollbacks for states hit by cheaters.
okay. this will make things interesting in the future im sure.

MAGGIO
10-08-2008, 20:39
I removed the state number of the vic only.

You know this is not the only time cheaters were found in LOR.

Maybe deleting the states of the leaderS would be a solution!

That would be ALI, Kanman, and Pron

Xavior
10-08-2008, 20:47
i was just told there are no rollbacks for states hit by cheaters.
okay. this will make things interesting in the future im sure.

Rollbacks aren't very common, even when there are cheaters involved.

Raul
10-08-2008, 21:37
i have told u a thousand times anton, just turn evil and kill everyone. being good will lead u no where =)

Crimson Shadow
10-08-2008, 21:37
Rollbacks aren't very common, even when there are cheaters involved.


I can only think of a couple of times where rollbacks were used.
And those all came when WoW was hacked.

MAGGIO
10-08-2008, 21:43
hacked

Dont even say that word, I just got the chills :crying:

Hoebawt
10-08-2008, 21:50
loser

L P
10-08-2008, 22:18
LOR = EVIL

Should simply delete the whole nation. That would solve the problem. :D

Hoebawt
10-08-2008, 22:19
i agree but i vote to save Pron :) and maybe a few others :P LOL

Dogma
10-08-2008, 22:28
It is happening every **** set, this is getting rediculous. LOR is full of cheaters and they will NEVER change. PERIOD!

Satan666
10-08-2008, 22:54
i have told u a thousand times anton, just turn evil and kill everyone. being good will lead u no where =)


LOR = EVIL

Should simply delete the whole nation. That would solve the problem. :D


It is happening every **** set, this is getting rediculous. LOR is full of cheaters and they will NEVER change. PERIOD!

Alright, I'll agree that you can get rid of LoR and delete the whole nation when you can prove even once that I have cheated. Go ahead and waste your time because the quick answer is never. Stop calling us all cheaters, there are bad apples and you can say what you want about them but the fact is that all these ignorant comments are getting annoying.

Dogma
10-08-2008, 23:01
then why keep allowing them in your nation? No one accused you af anything Satan, but the leaders who allow cheaters to enter their nation makes the nation guilty.

MAGGIO
10-08-2008, 23:16
then why keep allowing them in your nation? No one accused you af anything Satan, but the leaders who allow cheaters to enter their nation makes the nation guilty.

I accuse Satan of knowing about cheaters in his nation and doing nothing about it. Therefore making him just as bad.

As a lead member of LOR you are accountable.

-Z-
10-08-2008, 23:18
It was the leaders brother who cheated....

Z

MAGGIO
10-08-2008, 23:21
It was the leaders brother who cheated....

Z

This time lol

Tnova
10-08-2008, 23:44
I personally don't have this evil opinion in regards to LoR like alot of people seem to have. These are acts of individuals, performed in secret without the knowledge of leaders. Because if a leader knows or suspects, they HAVE to report it, and if they know and it is found out, then they will be considered cheaters too.;)

What is a shame is that people in LoR who have done these deeds in the past have no shame in sullying the name of LoR. You should care about your nation and want to reflect on it in a good light. Plenty of people in LoR do just that and for people to spout this stuff is just not accurate.

Forcing LoR to quit isn't going to change the problem with cheaters, they will still be around.

Max Logan
10-09-2008, 01:09
Getting to good your member was lol
Lor don`t like people like that! You get executed like that!

Max Logan
10-09-2008, 01:10
It was the leaders brother who cheated....

Z

or so he says

pron
10-09-2008, 01:53
then why keep allowing them in your nation? No one accused you af anything Satan, but the leaders who allow cheaters to enter their nation makes the nation guilty.

Can you show me where Kanny's bro has cheated before???



Maybe deleting the states of the leaderS would be a solution!

I accuse Satan of knowing about cheaters in his nation and doing nothing about it. Therefore making him just as bad.

As a lead member of LOR you are accountable.


Maybe your suggestion is stupid lol. Kanny's bro hasn't cheated before, so how the hell were we supposed to know that he was a cheater??? For someone that expands/builds, you sure are rambunctious.

LOR does not condone this action, and I highly doubt Kanny's bro will be back in the nation. Kan and I have to talk soon about it.

You can contact me on MSN anton.

DBozMen
10-09-2008, 04:50
All i can say is this:

"I could have guessed it."


*edit*
My personal opinion is that we are way to gentle on people who have known to cheat. I would say ban for life, because why should we give them a second chance?

Max Logan
10-09-2008, 05:16
Can you show me where Kanny's bro has cheated before???

Too bad we can`t see the cheaters declared last set. And the and the nation they were in

MAGGIO
10-09-2008, 09:22
1. There should be an ongoing cheater list ilke "past scores" IMO.

2. I suggested last set that LOR should trim the fat along with other nations and be 12-15 man nations, so that they can more effectively lead, and keep tabs on the members actions.

Did they listen no. The once again allowed their members to drag them through the mud, and slur the LOR name once again.

I TOLD YOU SO! Maybe next time you will listen to reason. So dont come on here and start talking crap defending your nation because its TOO LATE!

pron
10-09-2008, 13:44
1. There should be an ongoing cheater list ilke "past scores" IMO.

2. I suggested last set that LOR should trim the fat along with other nations and be 12-15 man nations, so that they can more effectively lead, and keep tabs on the members actions.

Did they listen no. The once again allowed their members to drag them through the mud, and slur the LOR name once again.

I TOLD YOU SO! Maybe next time you will listen to reason. So dont come on here and start talking crap defending your nation because its TOO LATE!

1. I agree.
2. We couldn't more effectively lead with two or three 10 man nations as you were proposing. It wasn't logistically effective for us. Better to keep it under one roof where I can take care of members.

Kanny's brother is no longer in the nation. He slurred it once, but he won't get that chance again. I asked for a clean slate this set, and everyone gets one strike. David took his, and now he won't be a part of LOR.

I have no idea what you're so pissy about maggio, but you should know what we're trying to do over in LOR before you go ranting and raving.

MAGGIO
10-09-2008, 15:25
1. I agree.
2. We couldn't more effectively lead with two or three 10 man nations as you were proposing. It wasn't logistically effective for us. Better to keep it under one roof where I can take care of members.

Kanny's brother is no longer in the nation. He slurred it once, but he won't get that chance again. I asked for a clean slate this set, and everyone gets one strike. David took his, and now he won't be a part of LOR.

I have no idea what you're so pissy about maggio, but you should know what we're trying to do over in LOR before you go ranting and raving.

not three 10 man nations...ONE 12-15 man nation. Too many people take advantage of LOR's leadership. I dont know what else to call it.

I read all of your threads, and all of your posts about what you are doing in LOR. If you want me to know more you can pm me, but all i see is what you say and then what happens.

I thought it would be an advantage for you to trim the fat on LOR pick some solid members and go ahead with a smaller nation, minus the shady players. It would be easier to lead, and it would be a good look towards the community leaders.

Mr President
10-09-2008, 16:14
1. I agree.
2. We couldn't more effectively lead with two or three 10 man nations as you were proposing. It wasn't logistically effective for us. Better to keep it under one roof where I can take care of members.

Kanny's brother is no longer in the nation. He slurred it once, but he won't get that chance again. I asked for a clean slate this set, and everyone gets one strike. David took his, and now he won't be a part of LOR.

I have no idea what you're so pissy about maggio, but you should know what we're trying to do over in LOR before you go ranting and raving.

Leaders can NOT control cheaters. Leaders are not able to sit next to each member and watch every move they make. I'm sure if the leadership of LoR knew or knows of someone in the nation cheating, they would report it to us.

With what pron just said here, it shows that they are working to turn the image of LoR. This can't happen overnight. It will take them some time. What is worse, many of you are sitting back and just waiting for something like this to happen so you can jump up and say, see told ya you wouldn't change... That is not fair.

Many things go on behind the scenes that nobody knows about. It's meant to be this way for a reason. So before anyone jumps to conclusions, please remember that things do happen that you don't know about.

in conclusion, i really think people need to lay off LoR and give them some room to breathe. Let pron and kanny do as they said they would do. If 3 or 4 sets down the road they act and play the same way LoR always has, then you can say things.. But 1 week is not enough time...

ranger2112
10-09-2008, 16:38
I wholeheartedly agree P.

Calvin74
10-09-2008, 17:46
Leaders can NOT control cheaters. Leaders are not able to sit next to each member and watch every move they make. I'm sure if the leadership of LoR knew or knows of someone in the nation cheating, they would report it to us.

With what pron just said here, it shows that they are working to turn the image of LoR. This can't happen overnight. It will take them some time. What is worse, many of you are sitting back and just waiting for something like this to happen so you can jump up and say, see told ya you wouldn't change... That is not fair.

Many things go on behind the scenes that nobody knows about. It's meant to be this way for a reason. So before anyone jumps to conclusions, please remember that things do happen that you don't know about.

in conclusion, i really think people need to lay off LoR and give them some room to breathe. Let pron and kanny do as they said they would do. If 3 or 4 sets down the road they act and play the same way LoR always has, then you can say things.. But 1 week is not enough time...



no offense pres since i have nothing for respect for you but having been on both sides of it you don't get a clean slate just b/c you ask for it
do you know how hard i had to work after i cheated to even try to start making up for it? and that was w/o crap like this happening afterwards
yeah there are a lot of growing pains going from a named cheater to trying to fix your image but lor shouldn't act like they deserve it over night. how many times have they said they are changing their ways? this is what crying wolf gets you in the end

also people that have been screwed over by lor before have every right to sit back and watch them and then jump all over them (maybe not james since he has usually been helped by their actions) it is what you get when people say you reap what you sow. all your years of jacking people up for fun have ruined all credibility you have for some time now. yes you ask for a clean slate and you might get one in a year but you have to work your *** off till you get there and you have to expect people to talk crap about you but it is all brought on by your past actions







and on a side note leaders SHOULD be held responsible for what their nation's states do for 24-48 hours after they leave the tag. the state only got to where it is BECAUSE of your nation so you are responsible for the damage that one state can cause since you put that state there. this is why nations should be more careful on who they let in and on how they run their nations

MAGGIO
10-09-2008, 18:35
i dont think they have the patience for it if you ask me.

people are going to nit pick every little thing that comes from LOR for months to come, and there is no way they are just going to sit there and keep there mouths shut and actions pruned. I dont think ALI can do it, I dont think even pron can do it. There tolerence levels will be tested and I guess we will see.

pron
10-09-2008, 19:10
i dont think they have the patience for it if you ask me.

people are going to nit pick every little thing that comes from LOR for months to come, and there is no way they are just going to sit there and keep there mouths shut and actions pruned. I dont think ALI can do it, I dont think even pron can do it. There tolerence levels will be tested and I guess we will see.

I probably won't keep my mouth shut, but I have a lot of patience. After all, I do work with Ali in LOR... lol

Calvin74
10-09-2008, 19:29
pron how you talk just has to be backed up by how you act:P

i am pleased to see you working on it but it is a long uphill road
hope you stick it out but if you don't now then lor will never be thought of as a good nation...

kanman
10-09-2008, 21:06
pron how you talk just has to be backed up by how you act:P

i am pleased to see you working on it but it is a long uphill road
hope you stick it out but if you don't now then lor will never be thought of as a good nation...

Oh no, Calvin might think less of us :(.

Satan666
10-09-2008, 21:17
I accuse Satan of knowing about cheaters in his nation and doing nothing about it. Therefore making him just as bad.

As a lead member of LOR you are accountable.

Hey Maggio, your logic is absurd. With your reasoning I should know all of the member's secrets. So until you can tell me everything about anyone in SLOB, get off my back and stop making stuff up to make your points logical. I understand that we aren't going to be considered a "good" nation right off, but you have no right to continually test us over and over because of it. Personally I think it may be a while, but Pron, Ali, and Kanny will get it done and maybe one day we will see the return of Devil because of it.

Raul
10-09-2008, 21:25
Hey Maggio, your logic is absurd. With your reasoning I should know all of the member's secrets. So until you can tell me everything about anyone in SLOB, get off my back and stop making stuff up to make your points logical. I understand that we aren't going to be considered a "good" nation right off, but you have no right to continually test us over and over because of it. Personally I think it may be a while, but Pron, Ali, and Kanny will get it done and maybe one day we will see the return of Devil because of it.

I dont quite get why lor needs to demonstrate others anything, who are they to think they are right?? their just in the wrong side of the coin, not the best side :P., so dont botter arguing with them satan is useless :P

MAGGIO
10-09-2008, 22:00
it was not a personal attack satan, sorry.

Calvin74
10-09-2008, 22:15
Oh no, Calvin might think less of us :(.

i never thought anything of you in the 1st place
makes it hard to think less

pron
10-09-2008, 22:33
pron how you talk just has to be backed up by how you act:P

i am pleased to see you working on it but it is a long uphill road
hope you stick it out but if you don't now then lor will never be thought of as a good nation...

Well, is it backed up by the way we've acted through the first test of our system???

Hoebawt
10-09-2008, 22:46
i never thought anything of you in the 1st place
makes it hard to think less

That was a good comeback cal lol

kanman
10-10-2008, 00:54
i never thought anything of you in the 1st place
makes it hard to think less

That's because I only talk to my friends and I don't kiss ***.
Maybe i should give some free army to my friends, then you would think something of me.

Max Logan
10-10-2008, 03:49
I dont quite get why lor needs to demonstrate others anything, who are they to think they are right?? their just in the wrong side of the coin, not the best side :P., so dont botter arguing with them satan is useless :P

I guess sending cheater suiciders after another nations top states is nothing!
Its all acceptable and RIGHT!

Ok...

Missionary
10-10-2008, 06:43
So, will the state be rolled back? or is all that time spent playing going to go
down the drain because of a cheater state?

SA The Forgotten Land(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 354 Land, $990.606, 4.973 Food 15:33:37-2008/10/08
SA Sky Kingdom(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 586 Land, $1.021.243, 5.023 Food 15:10:22-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 468 Land, $1.052.828, 5.074 Food 14:44:18-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 689 Land, $1.085.390, 5.125 Food 14:43:38-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#) 1.135 Land, $1.118.959, 5.177 Food 14:43:19-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#) 2.438 Land, $1.153.565, 5.229 Food 14:43:08-2008/10/08

think it was already down the drain dude, roll his state back because without the land farm freenation cant keep a top spot :P

Divine Intervention
10-10-2008, 07:07
SA The Forgotten Land(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 354 Land, $990.606, 4.973 Food 15:33:37-2008/10/08
SA Sky Kingdom(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 586 Land, $1.021.243, 5.023 Food 15:10:22-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 468 Land, $1.052.828, 5.074 Food 14:44:18-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#)[WALtm] 689 Land, $1.085.390, 5.125 Food 14:43:38-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#) 1.135 Land, $1.118.959, 5.177 Food 14:43:19-2008/10/08
SA Free Nation(#)[WAL] bruised water(#) 2.438 Land, $1.153.565, 5.229 Food 14:43:08-2008/10/08

think it was already down the drain dude, roll his state back because without the land farm freenation cant keep a top spot :P

listen n00b, what bit of: "bruised water was planning to drop to stock however he was running out of GB soon and would lose 4k or so land to kanman and then another several k to Hercules so we decided to give it to Free Nation instead" dont you understand? i know you like to be someones
land farm, but we decided that since it can be avoided (WALtm created so that 144 could sell without tax) we should take the opportunity.

jesus you can be such a retard.

theres a difference between a 16k land state with 7gb several hundred turns
and couple dozen B stock and a 7k land state with the same (although minus half the military as well).

thick skull you got there?

Max Logan
10-10-2008, 07:56
listen n00b, what bit of: "bruised water was planning to drop to stock however he was running out of GB soon and would lose 4k or so land to kanman and then another several k to Hercules so we decided to give it to Free Nation instead" dont you understand? i know you like to be someones
land farm, but we decided that since it can be avoided (WALtm created so that 144 could sell without tax) we should take the opportunity.

jesus you can be such a retard.

theres a difference between a 16k land state with 7gb several hundred turns
and couple dozen B stock and a 7k land state with the same (although minus half the military as well).

thick skull you got there?

you should really fallow what you`re typing there. no offence

Divine Intervention
10-10-2008, 08:05
#144 isn't Freenations land farm. that situation occured because #144 left the nation to sell his army and drop down and stock...he was running out of gb so he allowed FreeNation to grab him so that LoR top players wouldn't get the land instead. he would have been on 16.x k land after that with hundreds of turns and plenty of gb. now hes on 7.5k whats so hard to follow for you and missionary? afaik land farms are created specifically to feed someone....land farms aren't a one of gb exchange.

anyway, ive talked to LoR leaders and we have come to an agreement. this thread can be closed.