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ranger2112
10-21-2008, 17:57
I'm voting Democrat because English has no place being the official language in America.


I'm voting Democrat because it's better to turn corn into fuel than it is to eat.


I'm voting Democrat because I'd rather pay $4 for a gallon of gas than allow drilling for oil off the coasts of America.


I'm voting Democrat because I think the government will do a better job of spending my money than I could.


I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I know the Islamic terrorists will stop trying to kill us because they'll think weʼre a good and decent country.


I'm voting Democrat because I believe people who can't tell us if it will rain in two or three days, can now tell us the polar ice caps will disappear in ten years if I don't start riding a bicycle, build a windmill or inflate my tires to proper levels.


Iʼm voting Democrat because it's all right to kill millions of babies as long as we keep violent, convicted murderers on death row alive.


I'm voting Democrat because I believe businesses in America should not be allowed to make profits. Businesses should just break even and give the rest to the government so politicians and bureaucrats can redistribute the money the way they think it should be redistributed.


I'm voting Democrat because I believe guns, and not the people misusing them, are the cause of crimes and killings.


I'm voting Democrat because when someone with a weapon threatens my family or me, I know the government can respond faster through a call to 911 than I can with a gun in my hand.


Iʼm voting Democrat because oil companies' 5% profit on a gallon of gas are obscene, but government taxes of 18% on the same gallon of gas are just fine.


I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four elitist liberals should rewrite the Constitution every few months to suit some fringe element that could never get their agenda past voters.


I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally.
We canʼt blame them for that, can we?

I'm voting Democrat because now I can now marry whatever I want, so I've decided to marry my horse.


Makes ya wonder why anyone would ever vote Republican, doesn't it?

Will
10-21-2008, 18:08
Hard to argue with some of those points. Others........

Crimson Shadow
10-21-2008, 18:23
I have to say...you hit most of those points on the head.
There is a couple that I think will happen regardless of Republican or Democrat election.

Disorder
10-21-2008, 18:29
Good Rep for this post!! :rolleyes:

MAGGIO
10-21-2008, 18:31
lol it took me half way through it to realize what you are doing.

He is making fun of Dems... Now were is my cookie!

BTW i really am voting dem, there is no sense argueing why because none will change their minds.

ranger2112
10-21-2008, 18:32
this isnt about arguements, this isnt about opinions, this is just reality. if you vote Democrat, you are voting for the above mentioned things.

Divine Intervention
10-21-2008, 18:42
funny :) although im sure someone can do the samething just as bad and menacing for Republicans.

MAGGIO
10-21-2008, 18:44
this isnt about arguements, this isnt about opinions, this is just reality. if you vote Democrat, you are voting for the above mentioned things.

I wish people could see both sides lying and find the truth in the middle, because that is reality.

ranger2112
10-21-2008, 18:47
someone has to stem the tide of Z's rantings and give another side to the story

Will
10-21-2008, 18:51
$4 per gallon is dirt cheap.

ranger2112
10-21-2008, 18:52
well actually we are paying 2.79 here in Louisiana as of today :):):):)

Will
10-21-2008, 18:54
$2.79 will get you about a litre and a half of petrol in the UK.

MAGGIO
10-21-2008, 18:57
bout 2.80 in Maryland

Will
10-21-2008, 19:03
in US prices a gallon of petrol is close to $16 here.

ranger2112
10-21-2008, 19:03
that is harsh bro

MAGGIO
10-21-2008, 19:05
in US prices a gallon of petrol is close to $16 here.


I keep wondering what my problem is.....its the cheap gas...im gaining weight, and if that gas was $16/gal here, i would be thin as a rail!

ranger2112
10-21-2008, 19:07
pffft

tippysmurf
10-21-2008, 20:33
man i can't wait till i can go back to iraq and fight the republicans war for oil again so i can make enough money to buy enough gas to cover going to and from work every day till i get deployed again!

Green
10-21-2008, 20:55
I just paid $2.32/gal for gas.

/flex

Crimson Shadow
10-21-2008, 21:10
Paid $2.48 today :)


I know its really bad in UK, I guess thats why everyone over there drives fuel efficient cars.

tippysmurf
10-21-2008, 21:17
gee i wonder why we just got those fuel efficient :confused:cars here in the states..

Hoebawt
10-21-2008, 21:22
I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally.
We canʼt blame them for that, can we?


your ancestors can do it but no one else can?

Will
10-21-2008, 21:23
How many past immigrants came to the US illegaly?

Hoebawt
10-21-2008, 21:26
Its called Ellis Island buddy

tippysmurf
10-21-2008, 21:29
the fluff pilgrims!

Will
10-21-2008, 21:29
Which according to Wiki dealt with legal immigrants.

Hoebawt
10-21-2008, 21:31
The way i see it is that any human being that came to North America is a illegal immigrant

This land is no ones land..... a immigrant is a immigrant illegal or not

Will
10-21-2008, 21:34
by what law?

Mr President
10-21-2008, 21:36
I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally.
We canʼt blame them for that, can we?


your ancestors can do it but no one else can?


I 100% agree with what you said. I have no problem with people coming here to make a better life for themselves. But there are 2 issues...

1) Mostly just one person comes here to work and then sends all his/her money back to family which then that money does not recirculate back into our economy. So not only are we paying all there healthcare needs and other things, we don't even get the money we pay them back into our economy.. Which is hurting us.

2) We were lucky to be born in the USA, but we still have to pay for all the things we have. So why should someone who was not born here get free things? Just cause they are looking for a better life? I'm always trying to make my life better, but not at anyone elses expense.. (except my employer lol )

If these people want a better life then why don't they just become a legal citizen? In many cases it seems they come here to use us, then go back home or again, send all there money home.

I don't think there are many Americans who have a problem with these people coming here. But they do have a problem when the hard earned tax dollars are spent on everyone else but Americans...

Again, i think any person who wants to make a better life for themselves or there family has a right to live here.. But we have to follow the law and so should they..

Disorder
10-21-2008, 21:40
well actually we are paying 2.79 here in Louisiana as of today :):):):)




I hear it was 2.49 in Hattiesburg Saturday.

Hoebawt
10-21-2008, 21:40
3.87 Jersey

tippysmurf
10-21-2008, 21:42
wow how is this such a touchy subject? the other thing that bothers me is that one illegal mexican immigrant rapes and kills a girl. how often does that happen a year? i hate how the media freaked out about it happening once. the only thing that pisses me off is when illegals cause car accidents and don't have insurance so people end up getting screwed over by it. (california it's common place)

Disorder
10-21-2008, 21:43
I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally.
We canʼt blame them for that, can we?


your ancestors can do it but no one else can?

Thats a very touchy topic Hoe.. there are a great deal of illegals that are proving to be thorn in the side.. My hats off to the aliens that do it the legal way.

Crimson Shadow
10-21-2008, 21:47
the only thing that pisses me off is when illegals cause car accidents and don't have insurance so people end up getting screwed over by it. (california it's common place)

Very common in Indiana as well. My friend has been in 3 hit and run accidents, which all were caused by uninsured, illegal aliens. Luckily they were all caught down the road because other people went out of their way to follow them.

Hoebawt
10-21-2008, 21:53
It is touchy... and im very grateful for the fact that my parents did it the legal way and didn't live off the system... but it was extremely hard on them... but they hung in there and coz of them i have everything i have... but that was then and now is now.... now its alot harder to do it the legal way and it cost a whole lot more money then in the past..... I think a new system to allow immigrants to get papers should be put in place coz the one now mks its very hard

Green
10-21-2008, 23:20
The way i see it is that any human being that came to North America is a illegal immigrant

This land is no ones land..... a immigrant is a immigrant illegal or not

The English originally came as an invading force and took the land with that force using superior technology and chemical warfare!

If you are suggesting that that ^ was the illegal immigration, then I say we start using military force to repel the current waves of illegal immigration. ;)

SmarT
10-22-2008, 00:46
'm voting Democrat because English shouldn't be our only language, God knowns people that speak more then one have a higher level of intelligence.


I'm voting Democrat because it's better to turn corn into fuel than it is into High Fructose Corn Syrup that is making America fat.


I'm voting Democrat because I'd rather pay $4 for a gallon of gas than think that 5-10 years from now this drilling will have an effect on our gas. when there is **** we can do in a year that would dramatically drop the gas price


I'm voting Democrat because I think the government will do a better job of spending my money on education, roads, health care, public transportation, emergency systems, and bridges ext.


I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I know the Islamic terrorists will stop trying to kill us because they'll think weʼre a good and decent country. wait.... we would only be drawing down to 50k troops in Iraq and staying in Afghanistan and focusing our attention on the country that ACTUALLY attacked us.


I'm voting Democrat because I believe people who devote their life to science and understand **** we cant have came to the conclusion that this is happening. years and years of work and many experiments later...


Iʼm voting Democrat because i believe in a womens right to choose because she has to live with it and we know that the death penalty will never get over turned anyways.


I'm voting Democrat because I believe businesses in America should not be allowed to make profits at the expense of the american worker and 95% of the citizens and that they give themselfs 50 million dollar bonus when their company is going under...

I'm voting Democrat because I believe guns, and not the people misusing them, are the cause of crimes and killings. (this one is to retarded to respond to)


I'm voting Democrat because when someone with a weapon threatens my family or me, I know the government can respond faster through a call to 911 than I can with a gun in my hand. (another retarded one)


Iʼm voting Democrat because oil companies' 50 billion dollar profit on gas are obscene, but government taxes of 18% on the same gallon of gas are just fine.


I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four elitist liberals should rewrite the Constitution every few months to suit some fringe element that could never get their agenda past voters. (another retarded one, constitution can only be ammended with 2/3 state votes) also GWB, a republican has violated the constitution and committed more impeachable acts then any other president


I'm voting Democrat because illegal aliens are not criminals, are not sucking up resources through government aid, hospital services, education, or social services, but are just people trying to make a better life by coming to America illegally and that they spend their money here on food, servies, and other normal american stuff. so the money goes right back into the economy.

We canʼt blame them for that, can we?

I'm voting Democrat because now I can now marry whatever I want, because we have separated religion from our government


Makes ya wonder why anyone would ever vote Republican, doesn't it?

i am voting republican because i believe that God commands America

I am voting republican because i do not care about blue collar Americans

I am voting republicans because i dont mind giving up liberties for security
(go read what Ben franklin said about that one!)

I am voting republican because my pastor told me to

I am voting republican because i believe that the middle class doesnt matter

i am voting republican because i think we should spend our money in war instead of rebuilding our economy, roads, bridges, ext.

i am voting republican because i want to see our schools get worse and our colleges under funded.

i am voting republican because i think GWB was a guy i could have a beer with

i am voting republican because having an education from Harvard and giving up making a boat load of money to help the inner city... is just... silly.

i am voting republican because dems dont having any family values.. they could never raise a family or even a dog!

Dogma
10-22-2008, 00:54
I am voting my conscience and it is a secret ballot, so I will keep it to myself

Xavior
10-22-2008, 00:54
I 100% agree with what you said. I have no problem with people coming here to make a better life for themselves. But there are 2 issues...

1) Mostly just one person comes here to work and then sends all his/her money back to family which then that money does not recirculate back into our economy. So not only are we paying all there healthcare needs and other things, we don't even get the money we pay them back into our economy.. Which is hurting us.

2) We were lucky to be born in the USA, but we still have to pay for all the things we have. So why should someone who was not born here get free things? Just cause they are looking for a better life? I'm always trying to make my life better, but not at anyone elses expense.. (except my employer lol )

If these people want a better life then why don't they just become a legal citizen? In many cases it seems they come here to use us, then go back home or again, send all there money home.

I don't think there are many Americans who have a problem with these people coming here. But they do have a problem when the hard earned tax dollars are spent on everyone else but Americans...

Again, i think any person who wants to make a better life for themselves or there family has a right to live here.. But we have to follow the law and so should they..

Thats like saying that all homeless people are poor because they are lazy. Becoming a legal citizen is not very easy with the huge waiting list to get in and having to meet the requirements, etc. Most of these people want to come to America or Canada because they have no other choice, they are desperate. Not everyone is as lucky like you and me.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 01:18
Clearly an amnesty needs to be called for the millions of Americans who live in America that are not classified as Citizens.

If they were allowed to declare them selves without therin becoming a criminal, People could Get insurance.

The Law is what Creates Criminals in this case, and you can not blame someone for simply trying to better them selves and their families, without hurting anyone.

Z

ranger2112
10-22-2008, 09:13
The immigrants that are here now and are contributing should be INSTANTLY naturalized.. i agree with that. There are people who were born here that do not deserve their citizenship. i do believe that the tide of illegal immigrants needs to be stemmed, however, the only way to slow that down is to make the naturalization process simpler and accessible.

GWB is not the greatest thing since sliced bread and his mistakes are many. McCain should not be penalized because everything GWB did was nothing compared to the idiots in the Democratic controlled house and senate.

Gun control is BS. if you take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens then only criminals will have them. come get my gun, please.

abortion, though revolting, does not need to be a government controlled situation. in life sometimes the grey area is the biggest one of all.

Iraq was a mistake, however, we are there and need to make sure the Iraq govt and people can handle things and then we leave.

I agree with the seperation of religion and state.

i think the govt needs to get their hands out of my pocket..and taxing the rich more is not a solution, try spending more wisely..besides how many poor people can give you a job?

i find it amazing that people tout Obama's lack of experience as "something fresh that is needed" and Palin's as useless. how is that sensible?

i think we DO NEED CHANGE, but how is the same ole dem v rep gonna do that? Obama is not about change, he is about helping his party regain the white house. when he gets in office(i did say when, because i think he will win) it will be party politics all over again and with his dem house/senate...in four years our beloved Republic will be a socialist one.

Disorder
10-22-2008, 10:39
Im Voting Democrate because the Democrate party would rather take a summer vacation while things listed below is happening..


Stocks slump on earnings worries
Investors take in more poor results and weak guidance. Wachovia loses nearly $24 billion. Apple profit jumps, but the company offers a tepid forecast. Yahoo announces job cuts. Argentina's president moves to take over pension funds.


Yes, we do have a Republican President, And YES we do have a DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS that blocks everything he does and creates more of a mess.

Hoebawt
10-22-2008, 12:54
Im Voting Democrate because the Democrate party would rather take a summer vacation while things listed below is happening..


Stocks slump on earnings worries
Investors take in more poor results and weak guidance. Wachovia loses nearly $24 billion. Apple profit jumps, but the company offers a tepid forecast. Yahoo announces job cuts. Argentina's president moves to take over pension funds.


Yes, we do have a Republican President, And YES we do have a DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS that blocks everything he does and creates more of a mess.

I am voting republican because GWB says the mission is accomplished!