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-Z-
10-22-2008, 01:11
I am voting Republican because I want to remain in Iraq, and Invade other Countries, creating more Terrorists to Haunt my Children.

I am voting Republican because I think Sarah Palin is one of the most capable and brilliant leaders in our Land, capable of dealing with any problems that might arise.

I am Voting Republican because I think that the way America is heading is great and there is nothing wrong with our Country.

I am voting Republican because I think American lives are worth far more than any other given nationality.

I am voting Republican Because GWB is the greatest leader in history, and his party deserves reward for the great way he has served us.

I am voting Republican because I believe that There were WMD in iraq... We just lost them.

I am voting Republican because I am desperate to Believe that my Government is telling me this truth this time.

I am voting Republican because I want a socialist economy under the mask of a Capitalist economy.

I am Voting Republican because I believe that All Arabs are Terrorists.

I am Voting Republican because I Believe that Torture is an acceptable protocol

I am voting Republican because The geneva conventions are nothing to concern ourselves with.

I am voting Republican because I would like to separate the Rich from the Poor, and widen the divide.

I am Voting Republican because I would like to preserve my wealth, and leave the disadvantaged Plebs in disadvantage.

I am voting republican because I do not want all Americans to have an equal opportunity from birth.

I am voting Republican because I am quite restricted in my views, and completely ignorant to all that is real and true.

I am voting Republican because I am completely Apathetic towards the emotion of humanity.

I am voting Republican because I would like to see our Natural world destroyed, and I care not for animals.

i am voting republican because i believe that God commands America

I am voting republican because i do not care about blue collar Americans

I am voting republicans because i dont mind giving up liberties for security
(go read what Ben franklin said about that one!)

I am voting republican because my pastor told me to

I am voting republican because i believe that the middle class doesnt matter

i am voting republican because i think we should spend our money in war instead of rebuilding our economy, roads, bridges, ext.

i am voting republican because i want to see our schools get worse and our colleges under funded.

i am voting republican because i think GWB was a guy i could have a beer with

i am voting republican because having an education from Harvard and giving up making a boat load of money to help the inner city... is just... silly.

i am voting republican because dems dont having any family values.. they could never raise a family or even a dog!


Z

MAGGIO
10-22-2008, 07:40
i think that is pretty fair since both posts are exaggerated a bit, but have some form of truth behind them...Im glad I can see shades of gray...gooooo dems!

ranger2112
10-22-2008, 09:25
I am voting Republican because I want to remain in Iraq, and Invade other Countries, creating more Terrorists to Haunt my Children.( i think the terrorist were already around)

I am voting Republican because I think Sarah Palin is one of the most capable and brilliant leaders in our Land, capable of dealing with any problems that might arise.(no one said she was)

I am Voting Republican because I think that the way America is heading is great and there is nothing wrong with our Country. (i think the Dem controlled house might take some of that blame too)

I am voting Republican because I think American lives are worth far more than any other given nationality. (if i live in America then yeah they are...u dont see anyone from other countries worried about ours..they tout theirs as the best..cough..Z..cough)

I am voting Republican Because GWB is the greatest leader in history, and his party deserves reward for the great way he has served us.(GWB is a man, his party is an organization...u cant blame the entire party)

I am voting Republican because I believe that There were WMD in iraq... We just lost them. ( no comment :))

I am voting Republican because I am desperate to Believe that my Government is telling me this truth this time. ( doesnt matter who is in office we will always be lied to)

I am voting Republican because I want a socialist economy under the mask of a Capitalist economy. (SOCIALIST is more of a Dem thing not rep)

I am Voting Republican because I believe that All Arabs are Terrorists.(that is just ignorant)

I am Voting Republican because I Believe that Torture is an acceptable protocol( it isnt as a rule, maybe u should tell the terrorist that tortured and murdered our citizens..if they stop we will too)

I am voting Republican because The geneva conventions are nothing to concern ourselves with. (no one follows that to the letter, no one is *****ing about them)

I am voting Republican because I would like to separate the Rich from the Poor, and widen the divide.( that is also just ignorant)

I am Voting Republican because I would like to preserve my wealth, and leave the disadvantaged Plebs in disadvantage.( there will always be class distinction, however, more out of work people are their by choice....there are jobs, just not fancy ones)

I am voting republican because I do not want all Americans to have an equal opportunity from birth.( asinine)

I am voting Republican because I am quite restricted in my views, and completely ignorant to all that is real and true.( wow, that is such a broad view, thanks for my lesson sir)

I am voting Republican because I am completely Apathetic towards the emotion of humanity.( huh?)

I am voting Republican because I would like to see our Natural world destroyed, and I care not for animals.( animals are tasty)

i am voting republican because i believe that God commands America( republicans do tend to stick God in there too much)

I am voting republican because i do not care about blue collar Americans( i suppose Dems REALLY REALLY do care or maybe they just want to win the election?)

I am voting republicans because i dont mind giving up liberties for security
(go read what Ben franklin said about that one!)( dont really like some of the liberties lost either)

I am voting republican because my pastor told me to(the only pastor in questions is Obama's)

I am voting republican because i believe that the middle class doesnt matter(idiotic)

i am voting republican because i think we should spend our money in war instead of rebuilding our economy, roads, bridges, ext.( dont like the money spent either, however, i wont put one hand behind our soldiers back)

i am voting republican because i want to see our schools get worse and our colleges under funded.(that is a straight goober statement)

i am voting republican because i think GWB was a guy i could have a beer with( bring Bill too...GWB will supply the Blow and o so will Bill)

i am voting republican because having an education from Harvard and giving up making a boat load of money to help the inner city... is just... silly.(what money has been given up)

i am voting republican because dems dont having any family values.. they could never raise a family or even a dog!( maybe a cat, but yeah no dog)

in conclusion, anyone who is absolutely ONLY left or ONLY right is an idiot. i believe we need to be open.



the end

Capitalist
10-22-2008, 10:32
I think both threads could combine to a thread "I'm voting in united states because" and put all those things together. For example in other thread there were "I'm voting Democrat because I think the government will do a better job of spending my money than I could." - i think republicans are even better at spending other peoples money.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 13:27
at least Democrats confess to being socially driven, while Republicans hide behind a mask of capitalism.

McCain did more than "say" Palin was one of the greatest American leaders when he choose her.

Actions speak Louder than words.

Z

Green
10-22-2008, 15:49
Z isn't voting republican or democrat.

FYI. :)

ranger2112
10-22-2008, 17:08
yeah, he is canadian, they just draw a name out of a hat and say ok u r the leader this set.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 17:12
yeah, he is canadian, they just draw a name out of a hat and say ok u r the leader this set.

this set?


U mean this term?

we have elections every 1-4 years.


and I just voted about a week ago.


in our elections.


The reason that Americans are not talking about Canadian Elections is because Canadian Policy does not cause alot of discourse in the world.

USA politics is quite potent among humanity.


And thus worthy of much discussion.

IMO the most important issue of the year.


Z

ranger2112
10-22-2008, 17:14
because we are a major force in the global arena, canada is referred to as "whats-that-nations-name-again" u know the one north of USA. Canadian elections are like local councilman elections..sure they are in charge, but unless u live there, no one really cares.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 17:58
because we are a major force in the global arena, canada is referred to as "whats-that-nations-name-again" u know the one north of USA. Canadian elections are like local councilman elections..sure they are in charge, but unless u live there, no one really cares.


I will agree, that Canada does not interest people as much, and the reasons are obvious.

We are not as powerful as the US, and even if we were, we would not garner as much interest, as we do not use our power in such intense and obstructive ways.

If you would like to Bash our politics, thats fine by me, I know they work fine, because no one hates Canada.

(aside from maybe Ranger, but only because I live in Canada)

Now, the US is different.
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Thatsthe reasonwe have this thread, and the one u created Ranger about Dems

Z

ranger2112
10-22-2008, 18:00
dont hate Canada, however, I can only allow u to bash my home and way of life for so long without a counter-punch. our system may be imperfect, however, it is still the best in the world.

Mr President
10-22-2008, 18:43
at least Democrats confess to being socially driven, while Republicans hide behind a mask of capitalism.

McCain did more than "say" Palin was one of the greatest American leaders when he choose her.

Actions speak Louder than words.

Z

I'm pretty sure the democrats have controlled the house for 2 years now and i'm pretty sure the democrats approved the bank bailout.. Which to me, i'm pretty sure they agreed and helped create the deal... The reason it took so long was cause the republicans didn't like all the extra things the democrats wanted to add on.. You know things like Nacy palosy getting her house painted and Barney Frank getting a new car and another raise lol..


this set?
The reason that Americans are not talking about Canadian Elections is because Canadian Policy does not cause alot of discourse in the world.

Z

Thats cause Canada is always ONE step right behind us.. They do the same thing we do, but our shadow covers them so they don't get the blunt of it. YOUR WELCOME!


I will agree, that Canada does not interest people as much, and the reasons are obvious.

We are not as powerful as the US, and even if we were, we would not garner as much interest, as we do not use our power in such intense and obstructive ways.

Z

So Canada was not in on the invasion of Iraq? And Canada wasn't helping occupying Iraq up until about a year ago? You may not have the same amount of power as the USA does, but regardless you still have some.. And the power you did have was used in the SAME intense and obstructive ways..


And about American soldiers being murderers.. Your so lucky that we even exist.... Your the type that has never served, but yet you have the nerve to complain about the ways your freedom is provided. You have never stepped foot on a battlefield and had to make a choice of your life your there's. I'll bet a million dollars that you would save your own life long before you saved anyone elses. You have no clue what it's like to be a soldier and have to be away from your family for years at a time protecting people you have never even met before, for nothing more then helping them have a better life.

Funny how you say American soldiers are the murderers, but yet never heard you say anything when Saddam was genociding his own people by the thousands.. I'm sure thats ok though... You almost act as if you approve of terrorist. You seem to defend them more then you do anything else.

You should feel lucky that you were not in those towers when the planes hit. Or the Pentagon, or the United flight that went down. You sit and make these judgments and accusations and you have no clue what it's like to be in any of those positions.

America is not perfect. American politics are even further from it. Blame the economy on bush all you want.. But i'm sure you will forget about all the other small things that has happened as well.. Like the internet bubble bursting, the trade centers being hit... yea it's all GWB!

It's easy to sit in a nice home with nice food and protection and then judge those who you have no clue what it might be like to be them. I'm sure our soldiers would love to see there kids again, or there wives again, or family, but they understand they have a job to finish..

Funny how nobody other then FOX NEWS has reported anything on Iraq since violence has dropped 95%.. And how people in Iraq are now out shopping and living the lives they have always wanted but couldn't cause Saddam took it all for himself..

If you want to discuss things, then look at the full picture. look at how much things have improved for them since the start of the war. Many good people have fallen for the Iraqi people.. Show the same respect you seek from everyone on these forums, to the families and soldiers who have actually done something to deserve it.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 19:00
I'm pretty sure the democrats have controlled the house for 2 years now and i'm pretty sure the democrats approved the bank bailout.. Which to me, i'm pretty sure they agreed and helped create the deal... The reason it took so long was cause the republicans didn't like all the extra things the democrats wanted to add on.. You know things like Nacy palosy getting her house painted and Barney Frank getting a new car and another raise lol..



Thats cause Canada is always ONE step right behind us.. They do the same thing we do, but our shadow covers them so they don't get the blunt of it. YOUR WELCOME!



So Canada was not in on the invasion of Iraq? And Canada wasn't helping occupying Iraq up until about a year ago? You may not have the same amount of power as the USA does, but regardless you still have some.. And the power you did have was used in the SAME intense and obstructive ways..


And about American soldiers being murderers.. Your so lucky that we even exist.... Your the type that has never served, but yet you have the nerve to complain about the ways your freedom is provided. You have never stepped foot on a battlefield and had to make a choice of your life your there's. I'll bet a million dollars that you would save your own life long before you saved anyone elses. You have no clue what it's like to be a soldier and have to be away from your family for years at a time protecting people you have never even met before, for nothing more then helping them have a better life.

Funny how you say American soldiers are the murderers, but yet never heard you say anything when Saddam was genociding his own people by the thousands.. I'm sure thats ok though... You almost act as if you approve of terrorist. You seem to defend them more then you do anything else.

You should feel lucky that you were not in those towers when the planes hit. Or the Pentagon, or the United flight that went down. You sit and make these judgments and accusations and you have no clue what it's like to be in any of those positions.

America is not perfect. American politics are even further from it. Blame the economy on bush all you want.. But i'm sure you will forget about all the other small things that has happened as well.. Like the internet bubble bursting, the trade centers being hit... yea it's all GWB!

It's easy to sit in a nice home with nice food and protection and then judge those who you have no clue what it might be like to be them. I'm sure our soldiers would love to see there kids again, or there wives again, or family, but they understand they have a job to finish..

Funny how nobody other then FOX NEWS has reported anything on Iraq since violence has dropped 95%.. And how people in Iraq are now out shopping and living the lives they have always wanted but couldn't cause Saddam took it all for himself..

If you want to discuss things, then look at the full picture. look at how much things have improved for them since the start of the war. Many good people have fallen for the Iraqi people.. Show the same respect you seek from everyone on these forums, to the families and soldiers who have actually done something to deserve it.


Mr. president.

Canada did not participate in Iraq.


The liberal gov. refused all but Naval assistance.

we did not follow.

Z

Green
10-22-2008, 19:02
What you see as hate towards America, is prolly more than likely known as jealousy.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 19:06
anyone who kills another person is a murderer.

Murder - to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.


Z

Green
10-22-2008, 19:13
anyone who kills another person is a murderer.

Murder - to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.


Z

Guy runs into my house with a weapon tries to take stuff, I kill him.

I am a murderer.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 19:36
Guy runs into my house with a weapon tries to take stuff, I kill him.

I am a murderer.

Well, you have committed murder...

Or would it be Homicide?

What word would u use?

That means, to take someones life.

Z

-Z-
10-22-2008, 19:39
What you see as hate towards America, is prolly more than likely known as jealousy.

You might almost be right here...

Now I am not jealous about how America is at war and its politics.

But I do feel jealous that America was known as the greatest country on earth, while it has done so much harm.

Perhaps all your power makes me feel small, I know know.

I am sure not jealous of China... even tho they are massively powerful as well.


(BTW did anyone see the South Park episode where cartman is hateing on china? LOL, "you saw the opening ceremonies!!!")

Z

Shabaz K
10-22-2008, 19:40
What you see as hate towards America, is prolly more than likely known as jealousy.

so saddam did kil one of yours?

Shabaz K
10-22-2008, 19:43
What you see as hate towards America, is prolly more than likely known as jealousy.


tbh last thing on the planet for any body to be jealous of would be America. just look at your situation



you guys were at one point( as nation-not indivdual) great nation, well respected for what you stood for but i think greed got in your way.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 19:47
tbh last thing on the planet for any body to be jealous of would be America. just look at your situation



you guys were at one point( as nation-not indivdual) great nation, well respected for what you stood for but i think greed got in your way.



But it wasnt, and still is not people like Dogma, Ranger, and so many others.

we need to seperate America the country and people, from America the politics. Everyone sees how corrupt the politics are, and big business along with them.

95% of americans or much more are still great and deserve all the respect they ahve worked so hard for.

we need to seperate the politics from the people.
Z

Shabaz K
10-22-2008, 19:54
I'm pretty sure the democrats have controlled the house for 2 years now and i'm pretty sure the democrats approved the bank bailout.. Which to me, i'm pretty sure they agreed and helped create the deal... The reason it took so long was cause the republicans didn't like all the extra things the democrats wanted to add on.. You know things like Nacy palosy getting her house painted and Barney Frank getting a new car and another raise lol..



Thats cause Canada is always ONE step right behind us.. They do the same thing we do, but our shadow covers them so they don't get the blunt of it. YOUR WELCOME!



So Canada was not in on the invasion of Iraq? And Canada wasn't helping occupying Iraq up until about a year ago? You may not have the same amount of power as the USA does, but regardless you still have some.. And the power you did have was used in the SAME intense and obstructive ways..


And about American soldiers being murderers.. Your so lucky that we even exist.... Your the type that has never served, but yet you have the nerve to complain about the ways your freedom is provided. You have never stepped foot on a battlefield and had to make a choice of your life your there's. I'll bet a million dollars that you would save your own life long before you saved anyone elses. You have no clue what it's like to be a soldier and have to be away from your family for years at a time protecting people you have never even met before, for nothing more then helping them have a better life.

Funny how you say American soldiers are the murderers, but yet never heard you say anything when Saddam was genociding his own people by the thousands.. I'm sure thats ok though... You almost act as if you approve of terrorist. You seem to defend them more then you do anything else.

You should feel lucky that you were not in those towers when the planes hit. Or the Pentagon, or the United flight that went down. You sit and make these judgments and accusations and you have no clue what it's like to be in any of those positions.

America is not perfect. American politics are even further from it. Blame the economy on bush all you want.. But i'm sure you will forget about all the other small things that has happened as well.. Like the internet bubble bursting, the trade centers being hit... yea it's all GWB!

It's easy to sit in a nice home with nice food and protection and then judge those who you have no clue what it might be like to be them. I'm sure our soldiers would love to see there kids again, or there wives again, or family, but they understand they have a job to finish..

Funny how nobody other then FOX NEWS has reported anything on Iraq since violence has dropped 95%.. And how people in Iraq are now out shopping and living the lives they have always wanted but couldn't cause Saddam took it all for himself..

If you want to discuss things, then look at the full picture. look at how much things have improved for them since the start of the war. Many good people have fallen for the Iraqi people.. Show the same respect you seek from everyone on these forums, to the families and soldiers who have actually done something to deserve it.

first Pharagraph- dems. or rep. they aren't really that concerned about the market or people byut rather them self first. tbh obama pr mccain will have the same agendas as its to impress there donors, the corp. world.


2nd paragraph- actually its the people of Canada not the USA shadow, you guys do have akey role in our everyday life, but we are much smarter then youl :P, out polititions are afraid of us maybe cause we ahve the wide range of parties, maybe thats what USA needs.

3rd paragraph- would you save your own life or others over your own.

4th- its actually the tactics you used to get in there, its the oil dude, why didn't the USA did about saddam earlier.


i HAte fox, besides the Simpsons


for the last paragraph, you actually need to look at the big picture aswell as to wahts happening, yes alot has changed

Shabaz K
10-22-2008, 19:56
But it wasnt, and still is not people like Dogma, Ranger, and so many others.

we need to seperate America the country and people, from America the politics. Everyone sees how corrupt the politics are, and big business along with them.

95% of americans or much more are still great and deserve all the respect they ahve worked so hard for.

we need to seperate the politics from the people.
Z

they prolly lost in the greed :P


and that 700bill package wasa joke

Xavior
10-22-2008, 20:00
-Z- is right, Mr. P; Canada did NOT participate in the invasion of Iraq or the 'Coalition of the Willing'. Canada made it clear that we would only help if the UN Security Council agreed to Colin Powell's request of invading Iraq. However, since the US did not heed the UN and invaded without its approval, Canada refused to help. Of course, this caused a lot of tension between our two countries.

And regarding our elections, it is a rather complex procedure which I will only briefly explain. Canada has the same 'Congress' as the US: The House (of Commons), and the Senate. The Senate is appointed by the Prime Minister with the Governor General's approval (she is the representative of the Queen), while the House is democratically elected. There are 308 'ridings' or districts in Canada, so there are 308 'seats' or Members of Parliament. There is no fixed election date, and we have 4 major parties. The elections of the Prime Minister and the elections of the Congress is the same thing: We vote for our Congress member, and the Prime Minister is the leader of the party with the most Congress members. Because we have more than 2 parties, we can either have a Majority or a Minority government. With a majority, the PM can do whatever he/she wants. With a minority, the PM must form an alliance with other parties to pass laws (the PM cannot veto). The PM also has a 'cabinet', the same as your 'administration', except the PM can only pick from elected MPs to make up his cabinet while your President can pick anyone he wants to be in his administration. That was probably the most boring thing you have ever read, but i'm here to enlighten you :)

Just thought i'd get the truth out there since you Americans obviously don't care about your neighbours (I wouldn't care if I was American either).

Green
10-22-2008, 20:00
so saddam did kil one of yours?


Pretty rude/crude comment here.

Edit: I'll answer here.

It's like going up to some random Jew and asking, "Hey, did Hitler kill any of your family?"


tbh last thing on the planet for any body to be jealous of would be America. just look at your situation



you guys were at one point( as nation-not indivdual) great nation, well respected for what you stood for but i think greed got in your way.

If its not jealousy, then why does everyone focus so much attention on America?

Shabaz K
10-22-2008, 20:01
Pretty rude/crude comment here.


in what way?


i have a friend , a iraqi, who lost a famiy memeber, becuase of US air strike, the strike hit the wrong town alot died alot of damage done

Xavior
10-22-2008, 20:05
@ GREEN:

Isn't it obvious? America is the only surviving Super Power left, even if on the decline. It affects everyone world wide in our time of globalization. In 50 years we'll be talking about China and India.

-Z-
10-22-2008, 20:05
Pretty rude/crude comment here.

Edit: I'll answer here.

It's like going up to some random Jew and asking, "Hey, did Hitler kill any of your family?"



If its not jealousy, then why does everyone focus so much attention on America?

because america causes more destruction, fear, hate and disdain than any other nation.

Z

-Z-
10-22-2008, 20:06
Pretty rude/crude comment here.

Edit: I'll answer here.

It's like going up to some random Jew and asking, "Hey, did Hitler kill any of your family?"



If its not jealousy, then why does everyone focus so much attention on America?

Maybe it has something to do with the bombs... Im to stupid to understand tho... I have no idea.


Z

Shabaz K
10-22-2008, 20:08
Pretty rude/crude comment here.

Edit: I'll answer here.

It's like going up to some random Jew and asking, "Hey, did Hitler kill any of your family?"


If its not jealousy, then why does everyone focus so much attention on America?


big differ with the jews and iraqies is hitler meant to kill jews, USA had target to hit, particualer people.
why we focus on USA, cuase you ahve you finger in everyones life thats why

Shabaz K
10-22-2008, 20:09
@ GREEN:

Isn't it obvious? America is the only surviving Super Power left, even if on the decline. It affects everyone world wide in our time of globalization. In 50 years we'll be talking about China and India.


i agree, i dont think it India will be there but rather China and Russia

India will go too with USA

-Z-
10-23-2008, 11:40
i agree, i dont think it India will be there but rather China and Russia

India will go too with USA

Don't Forget Canada! EH?


lol... nah... we are too closely linked with USA...


But while USA will fall in my lifetime, Canada should remain stong until my kiddies are older i think!


Z

Will
10-23-2008, 15:43
Funny how you say American soldiers are the murderers, but yet never heard you say anything when Saddam was genociding his own people by the thousands.. I'm sure thats ok though... You almost act as if you approve of terrorist. You seem to defend them more then you do anything else.


If by his own people you mean the kurds, then you are dead wrong. Saddam was a sunni arab, not a kurd. People are all too quick to condemn Saddam for doing things that by the standards of the Arabs are perfectly normal. He simply held Iraq together (and stopped it being carved up by Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia) in the proper arab manner (ie brute force) which in that region is considered perfectly acceptable. I wish people would stop judging him by our standards. Saddam didn't grow up in a rich family like Bush. As a child he lived in poverty and he became the leader of Iraq by his wits and his fists. As such he was far more worthy to lead a country than either Bush or Blair, neither of whom had 1% of his balls.

Stop looking at arabs as westerners with brown skin and funny hats. They aren't.

-Z-
10-23-2008, 15:57
The reason I "defend" the terrorists, is because they are called Terrorists.

I do not support them, or their actions.


But the fact is, America has done the same, or worse things.

Did the terrorists bomb and entire country into shock and AWE for weeks!?

That's fairly terrifying if U ask me.


Once the general public reveals America for the state that sponsors Terror, then It might need some mortal support.

Z

Shabaz K
10-24-2008, 22:39
lol USA created them and now they have to take out, but taliban will all ways be there becuase Pakistan supports them