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jasonlfunk
10-27-2008, 17:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

Disorder
10-27-2008, 18:12
I seen that this morning... I wander where they got someone to sound like him because, surely, that was not our glorious President Elect Obama!! lollollol

-Z-
10-27-2008, 18:17
Clearly Barack Obama is the ANTICHRIST.

(Who else would want to share wealth!)


Now that the 1st plot to kill him has failed, we must forage a new one, whos with me!?

This spawn of Hitler must not be allowed to undue the great things the Bush administration has accomplished!

Z

Dogma
10-27-2008, 19:22
Clearly Barack Obama is the ANTICHRIST.

(Who else would want to share wealth!)


Now that the 1st plot to kill him has failed, we must forage a new one, whos with me!?

This spawn of Hitler must not be allowed to undue the great things the Bush administration has accomplished!

Z


You do realize that even saying that in a sarcastic manner could land you in mucho trouble. Don't get me wrong I realize the intent in which yousaid it, and I can deal with that, but if the wrong ppl see it, there could be a knock at your door.

Green
10-27-2008, 19:28
(Who else would want to share wealth!)



Robin Hood was an a theif.

esco
10-27-2008, 22:09
The guy's saying the distribution of wealth is out of whack... he's not saying that everyone should earn the same fixed income. I agree capitalism is the system that works best but it's not perfect.

Will
10-27-2008, 22:18
hybrid capitalism works well. The laissez faire style that the US uses is awful.

-Z-
10-27-2008, 22:42
You do realize that even saying that in a sarcastic manner could land you in mucho trouble. Don't get me wrong I realize the intent in which yousaid it, and I can deal with that, but if the wrong ppl see it, there could be a knock at your door.

That would be interesting...

I;m sure there are thousands of others online that have said similar things, some in jokes, some not.

Z

jasonlfunk
10-27-2008, 22:54
You do realize that even saying that in a sarcastic manner could land you in mucho trouble. Don't get me wrong I realize the intent in which yousaid it, and I can deal with that, but if the wrong ppl see it, there could be a knock at your door.
The problem is that our country is moving more in the direction of the UK in taking away our rights for our protection. I won't be surprised when the 1st and 2nd Amendments are suspended for National Security purposes.

Green
10-27-2008, 22:58
The problem is that our country is moving more in the direction of the UK in taking away our rights for our protection. I won't be surprised when the 1st and 2nd Amendments are suspended for National Security purposes.

The first has already been suspended in many places.

The second has been trimmed many moons ago to right to bear arms that we say you can bear.

Will
10-27-2008, 23:00
The second amendment doesn't really do what it was intended to anyway, unless you want to give people RPGs and Stingers of course.

Green
10-27-2008, 23:03
I guess it depends on your definition of arms.

I sure would like to have a personal tank. That would be fun to play with out in the country.

esco
10-27-2008, 23:37
wow... a personal tank...hmmm a sherman would be cool.

p.s. watching Fox makes me sad, they hated McCain and now their all rooting for McCain/Palin. Bizarre to say the least

Xavior
10-27-2008, 23:58
The guy's saying the distribution of wealth is out of whack... he's not saying that everyone should earn the same fixed income. I agree capitalism is the system that works best but it's not perfect.

In essence, tax cuts and welfare is redistribution of wealth. Is the word 'socialism' so scary now?

esco
10-28-2008, 00:05
no... so is the bailout and letting them use that money to give out bonuses...

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gdxImPfgsyFSMH5OMxs6D-Bg4rGQD941J5780

I love welfare for the rich, can't wait to be rich myself so I can hire the best lawyers and accounts to pay minimum taxes and exploit every loophole.

Disorder
10-28-2008, 17:28
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/17313/?ck=1


Read these comments about Obama..

esco
10-28-2008, 22:45
LMAO what a moron

marxist and fascist are on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

Will would know more than me.

Let's be honest the founding fathers and the Constitution weren't perfect. The Constitution said that slaves were to be counted as 3/5 of a person and forced states to give back runaway slaves when asked.

If the federal government didn't force changes that the states didn't want, America would be a third world nation at best or a bunch of individual nations warring each other.

Will
10-28-2008, 22:49
Even Fascism and National Socialism aren't the same thing. How does this guy equate Marxism-Leninism with Fascism?

esco
10-28-2008, 22:55
That's just one guy on the Fox News channel too. Those guys aren't very bright or truthful at least.

Green
10-28-2008, 22:56
LMAO what a moron

marxist and fascist are on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

Will would know more than me.

Let's be honest the founding fathers and the Constitution weren't perfect. The Constitution said that slaves were to be counted as 3/5 of a person and forced states to give back runaway slaves when asked.

If the federal government didn't force changes that the states didn't want, America would be a third world nation at best or a bunch of individual nations warring each other.

Hi, my vote in the presidential election counts as 1/600000th of a vote while other people's vote in my country counts around 1/200000th of a vote. Not that either of the fraction of a vote really counts but that's another story.

Come a long way haven't we?

-Z-
10-28-2008, 22:59
people lets look at the bailouts, and who they are helping...

lets recognize these bailouts for the socialism they are.

Now who acctually needs the $...

The people that need the $ are not getting it.

Middle income - low income hard working people, and families.

this is fascism I think.


The government is basically fluffing you.


They say their system is capitalism, and that socialism is bad.

But when the companies that run on pure capitalism are about to fail, they take your tax money and use socialism to buy thoese companies back into power.

This is so wrong.
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Z

Will
10-28-2008, 23:02
No, it's not fascism. Fascism relies far too heavily on populism to alienate people for the benefit of the rich. A fascist government would use the rich as a scapegoat in order to bolster it's own power.

esco
10-28-2008, 23:16
I have no problem with the bailout because I think it was needed but I get bothered when people cherry pick facts.

-Z-
10-28-2008, 23:24
can we agree that the bailout(s) is essentially socialism for the rich?

I might agree with them, but It only seems fair to give the same to the working man.


Z

esco
10-29-2008, 00:16
It is especially if some of them are allowed to use it to pay out bonuses lol

Xavior
10-29-2008, 00:17
That's just one guy on the Fox News channel too. Those guys aren't very bright or truthful at least.

I thought he was on CNN. But either way, he is just another one of those 'right wing talkshow hosts' that talk about stuff they know nothing about all day long and try to sound righteously angry. :unsure: