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-Z-
11-04-2008, 18:24
Forget all your facts, save one:


Obama has NO experience. (little I should say)


Obamas inexperience will win it for him.


If you need to ask why this is so, then just go take a class of sociology, politics or every just popular culture.


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Dogma
11-04-2008, 21:56
and because ppl like his speechwriters
Shabaz K
11-04-2008, 21:56
America is loooking for some sort of change.:p



i think this man and only this man can change the worlds view of America but tbh i hate that obama bastard
Disorder
11-04-2008, 21:59
Blacks + Hispanics > Republicans
-Z-
11-04-2008, 22:05
Obama is not White.

Obama is not Old.

Obama is not Experienced.

Obama is not a Dynasty.

Obama is not Big Business.



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Cemetary
11-04-2008, 22:09
Obama is not White.

Obama is not Old.

Obama is not Experienced.

Obama is not a Dynasty.

Obama is not Big Business.



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i guess we shall see how doing a 180 from the original standards we look for in a president will end up helping america

SOCIALISM IS HERE TO STAY!!!

Z, im going to find real estate in canada, ill call you for help
Disorder
11-04-2008, 22:17
Im thinking Mexico.. at least in Mexico everyone does not KNOW IT ALL like canada.. :P
Dogma
11-04-2008, 22:41
His statements that he wants to fundamentally change America is what scares the hell out of me
Bright
11-04-2008, 22:45
Change, meet bueracracy.

Nothing is gonna happen for a long while, and it'll be a grind if its something too radical.

I honestly feel that peeps should be keeping an eye on the Congressional races too, they're the ones who we should be breathing fire at whenever some bullfluff (the bailout for example) passes.
Dogma
11-04-2008, 22:48
but with the same party in all three, could spell trouble especially if the congress pushes to far left
esco
11-04-2008, 22:49
Obama's half white, half black and raised by a white mother and white grandparents...


Lincoln had little experience
Reagen had little experience
Kennedy had little experience
Bright
11-04-2008, 22:53
but with the same party in all three, could spell trouble especially if the congress pushes to far left

Yep, which is why people need to keep an eye on those races. The Executive branch alone wouldn't be able to float radical laws, Legislative on the other hand, could really make a case to override vetoes or block any laws contradictory to the ruling party majority. If it came to that, I would hope the Judicial branch does its job, lately they've been asleep with a lot of white collar crime and other questionable happenings on Capitol Hill.

And to Esco's post, is he half white, or half black? I think it depends on what side of the fence you're on. Do you vote on him because of his 'white' half and associated appeal, or to the 'black' half?
esco
11-04-2008, 22:55
but with the same party in all three, could spell trouble especially if the congress pushes to far left

It's not going to happen don't worry.

Why?
1. the blue dog democrats who are conservative are now a large faction in the democratic party

2. Democrats who have won close elections won't risk losing their seats

3. The democratic party (if their smart) won't push to hard and risk their dominance

4. Obama is going to be more moderate than what most think.
-Z-
11-05-2008, 00:51
WHOOOHOOOO!!!

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Divine Intervention
11-07-2008, 15:23
Why Dizzee Rascal will win.

HIP HOP.

innit blud?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRTe4q-vR0g
k959
11-07-2008, 15:29
lol i knew that obama would win the election so i voted for Nader because i needed to vote but didnt want to vote democatic or republican
-Z-
11-07-2008, 20:37
lol i knew that obama would win the election so i voted for Nader because i needed to vote but didnt want to vote democatic or republican

good one man!


Go 3rd party go!


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Green
11-07-2008, 20:39
Obama's half white, half black and raised by a white mother and white grandparents...


Lincoln had little experience
Reagen had little experience
Kennedy had little experience

2 out of 3 were assassinated.

What are you trying to say?

:)
esco
11-07-2008, 20:45
2 out of 3 were assassinated.

What are you trying to say?

:)

Now that you put it that way... Reagan was almost killed too :unsure:
Green
11-07-2008, 20:48
Oh yeah, I forgot. There was an attempt wasn't there?
ooga booga
11-07-2008, 20:55
Oh yeah, I forgot. There was an attempt wasn't there?

lol you beat me to it. I was going to say:

"And what do all 3 of those have in common? They all got shot, and 2 of them died."

But no, Mr. Smarty pants had to ruin my comment. :P
-Z-
11-07-2008, 20:59
Lets compare public reaction to this election and the one in 2004.


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-Z-
11-07-2008, 21:01
If a bunch of bush hating thugs could not kill him, given the support they would have had,

What do U think the changes are for some white dudes have vs Obama?


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Shabaz K
11-07-2008, 21:18
Z only becuase a black man has been elected doesn not mean people change. i thin it will take some more years and more then njs one black president. Obama has to set the foot steps for the next stage for teh black epople in the US.