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Will
11-24-2008, 14:35
What will the US be in 4 years time? I've got the horrible feeling it will become a black nation (politically), with white americans (and anyone who doesn't agree with jesse jackson) being persecuted. It will be Zimbabwe with nuclear weapons:(

Bram Gotink
11-24-2008, 14:45
What will the US be in 4 years time? I've got the horrible feeling it will become a black nation (politically), with white americans (and anyone who doesn't agree with jesse jackson) being persecuted. It will be Zimbabwe with nuclear weapons:(
I certainly hope not ...
I think the USA needs to be a little more red (politically) ... Now, don't shoot me for that :D

Dogma
11-24-2008, 14:59
I really don't think it will get to that. I also dont like to think of nations as color oriented. Granted, African nations have for so long be rife with corruption and barbaric leadership, I don't think that could ever happen in the USA as we have the 2nd amendment.

Bram Gotink
11-24-2008, 15:02
I really don't think it will get to that. I also dont like to think of nations as color oriented. Granted, African nations have for so long be rife with corruption and barbaric leadership, I don't think that could ever happen in the USA as we have the 2nd amendment.

The second amendment?

They wouldn't dare be corrupt ! We'd blow their heads off !
yeah, that's the right way to go ...

Will
11-24-2008, 15:19
I really don't think it will get to that. I also dont like to think of nations as color oriented. Granted, African nations have for so long be rife with corruption and barbaric leadership, I don't think that could ever happen in the USA as we have the 2nd amendment.

Unless the second amendment includes the right to carry RPGs, and operate military aircraft........

Dogma
11-24-2008, 15:23
The reason the second amendment was putin place is to ensure the Americcan ppl that they have the right to bear arms to rise up and defeat a corrupt government.

YThe state militia, (national guard) are under control of the Governors of each state, not the federal govt, and they have access and training to all thosse things you specify Will. I still don't believe it could happen here. Just my belilef.

Will
11-24-2008, 15:27
The reason the second amendment was putin place is to ensure the Americcan ppl that they have the right to bear arms to rise up and defeat a corrupt government.

YThe state militia, (national guard) are under control of the Governors of each state, not the federal govt, and they have access and training to all thosse things you specify Will. I still don't believe it could happen here. Just my belilef.

What about the nuclear silos?

Dogma
11-24-2008, 15:28
What about the nuclear silos?

If that ever came into play, there would be no USA for the despots to rule. I seriously doubt that would ever be an issue.

Will
11-24-2008, 15:37
If that ever came into play, there would be no USA for the despots to rule. I seriously doubt that would ever be an issue.

Probably not, but the threat alone might force the population to bend to the will of the despots, besides, there are tactical nukes right? which could be dropped on concentrations of militia.

Could the national guard take on and defeat the regular army/navy/air force?

-Z-
11-24-2008, 15:44
I really don't think it will get to that. I also dont like to think of nations as color oriented. Granted, African nations have for so long be rife with corruption and barbaric leadership, I don't think that could ever happen in the USA as we have the 2nd amendment.

2nd amendment, lol, nice attempt Dogma, but you fail at being sarcastic.


Z

-Z-
11-24-2008, 15:46
Dogma has no clue what he is talking about if he thinks that the amerikan citizens have any sort of control on their government.

1 word says it all:

Bush.


Z

-Z-
11-24-2008, 15:49
I really don't think it will get to that. I also dont like to think of nations as color oriented. Granted, African nations have for so long be rife with corruption and barbaric leadership, I don't think that could ever happen in the USA as we have the 2nd amendment.


Obama will not make things black, since he is like Grey himself, it seems a happy medium to me :-)

there will be no more red or blue, only grey!

Z

-Z-
11-24-2008, 16:02
Will you english fluff, Obama is a God among Amerikans,

Why dont you go spam your next KKK meeting man.

I've had enough of your racist BS, all you Obama Haters out there are sick, making bets on when he is going to get shot at, seriously, like u may as well go join the KKK.

No one bashed Bush because he was white, he was bashed because he is Evil and stupid.

(similar reasons apply to McCain, be was was also an old man)

Will I assume u just spend your days drawing detailed pictures of Obama on bullets?


Z

Will
11-24-2008, 16:08
Will you english fluff, Obama is a God among Amerikans,

Why dont you go spam your next KKK meeting man.

I've had enough of your racist BS, all you Obama Haters out there are sick, making bets on when he is going to get shot at, seriously, like u may as well go join the KKK.

No one bashed Bush because he was white, he was bashed because he is Evil and stupid.

(similar reasons apply to McCain, be was was also an old man)

Will I assume u just spend your days drawing detailed pictures of Obama on bullets?


Z

I never bashed Obama because he is black, I bash him because he is a communist and racist against whites!

And like you said, I'm english and we aren't allowed guns or bullets so how can I draw pics of him on them?

No, I draw them on arrows instead! We're still allowed bows.

Silly colonial:)

Bram Gotink
11-24-2008, 16:13
I never bashed Obama because he is black, I bash him because he is a communist and racist against whites!
There's a big difference between a communist and a socialist. Obama is neither of the two, he's liberal, just like almost all other US politicians... Socialists rule !

And like you said, I'm english and we aren't allowed guns or bullets so how can I draw pics of him on them?
You can draw pictures of them...

No, I draw them on arrows instead! We're still allowed bows.
Long live the English Longbow ! Can shoot right through armor

Silly colonial:)
XD That time ended a little while ago, I'm afraid


@-Z- : 4 posts ... that's double double posts ! Shame on you ! There is an edit button at the bottom of each post you write, didn't you know?

Dogma
11-24-2008, 16:16
BAck to you, Will, Z deserves no response. Yes the National Guard can stand up to the regular military as there are more in the national guard than there is in the regular army. Plus you are assuming that the Military leadership would be on board with a despot ruler. I don't htink that they would support an attack on US citizenry.

Will
11-24-2008, 16:22
Who's to say the military leadership wouldn't be replaced? Also, Obama would have to be very stupid to make it a racial thing right away. It would be more likely he'd portray dissenters as racists, KKK members etc, and portray it as a war on "far right terrorist groups", IE Ruby Ridge on a national scale.

Dogma
11-24-2008, 16:28
Who's to say the military leadership wouldn't be replaced? Also, Obama would have to be very stupid to make it a racial thing right away. It would be more likely he'd portray dissenters as racists, KKK members etc, and portray it as a war on "far right terrorist groups", IE Ruby Ridge on a national scale.

Well you are correct, some of the military leadership could be replaced, but that still leaves the rank and file military member that would have to follow the orders to act against their own homes and towns. I don't think anyone could make that happen.

Bram Gotink
11-24-2008, 16:32
Well you are correct, some of the military leadership could be replaced, but that still leaves the rank and file military member that would have to follow the orders to act against their own homes and towns. I don't think anyone could make that happen.

Isn't the reason a lot of people join the military to save their homes and towns from (in this case) bad Iraqi/Afghanian terrorists??
The reason (for the majority) of soldiers to join the army is to protect, not to destroy. You just have to destroy to protect.
I just quoted something in another thread (didn't I?):

He who wants peace,
has to (be) prepare(d) for war.

ooga booga
11-24-2008, 16:55
There's a big difference between a communist and a socialist. Obama is neither of the two, he's liberal, just like almost all other US politicians... Socialists rule !

You can draw pictures of them...

Long live the English Longbow ! Can shoot right through armor

XD That time ended a little while ago, I'm afraid


@-Z- : 4 posts ... that's double double posts ! Shame on you ! There is an edit button at the bottom of each post you write, didn't you know?

He is considered a Socialist. Which in a capitalist economy, is not good.

-Z-
11-24-2008, 16:56
I cant believe Dogma is running with this.

Its great.


If a revolution happens, I do not think it will involve the military to the extent that you are discussing.

Z

ooga booga
11-24-2008, 16:57
I cant believe Dogma is running with this.

Its great.


If a revolution happens, I do not think it will involve the military to the extent that you are discussing.

Z

The you and Will thing all about race again just like you guys did over a month ago? Ya I realized it in the first post. *yawns*

Next topic... lol

-Z-
11-24-2008, 17:15
The you and Will thing all about race again just like you guys did over a month ago? Ya I realized it in the first post. *yawns*

Next topic... lol

LOL


You are good...


I think last time it was about Zionists tho!


:-)


Z

ooga booga
11-24-2008, 17:23
LOL


You are good...


I think last time it was about Zionists tho!


:-)


Z


Hmmm... it could have been. I don't really remember exactly what it was about last time but I knew it seemed something similar. :p

Fangz
11-24-2008, 17:45
u are all idiots. if america goes to **** it will be because of our failures as a collective group, not because of one man (although we failed collectively when we elected one man [bush {twice}]). the bigger problem is our collective greed and inability to live within our means. this is something obama has talked about and i hope he will address as president.

there's nothing else in this thread worthy of a response as 90% of it is conspiracy theory wacko **** or pure racism.

-Z-
11-24-2008, 18:09
u are all idiots. if america goes to **** it will be because of our failures as a collective group, not because of one man (although we failed collectively when we elected one man [bush {twice}]). the bigger problem is our collective greed and inability to live within our means. this is something obama has talked about and i hope he will address as president.

there's nothing else in this thread worthy of a response as 90% of it is conspiracy theory wacko **** or pure racism.



thats exactly what it was meant to be Fangz.

and your statements are accurate and correct about Obama and Bush.


I wonder when we will get our Spam section :-(

Z

Shabaz K
11-24-2008, 19:06
who gives a **** about USA, its all about China now