Heh...

[Max Logan]

Either MR is really fast(read lucky) or has good friends

AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.481.153 Military Units 18:57:52-2010/06/08
SA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.595 Land / 1.547 Buildings, 2 Science, $52.721.066, 20 Food 18:57:37-2010/06/08
SA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 4.560 Land / 4.423 Buildings, 2 Science, $54.351.615, 21 Food 18:56:56-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.566.304 Military Units 18:56:34-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.637.922 Military Units 18:56:20-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.712.815 Military Units 18:54:59-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.791.132 Military Units 18:54:18-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.873.030 Military Units 18:54:15-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.958.673 Military Units 18:53:56-2010/06/08
SA Marine Recon(#23)[CR] Gold(#63)[Sky] 5.663 Land / 5.494 Buildings, 3 Science, $56.032.593, 21 Food 18:53:16-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.090.296 Military Units 18:52:56-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.186.399 Military Units 18:52:48-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.286.920 Military Units 18:52:39-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.392.063 Military Units 18:51:52-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.502.041 Military Units 18:51:41-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.617.074 Military Units 18:51:18-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.737.396 Military Units 18:51:01-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.863.251 Military Units 18:50:01-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.994.891 Military Units 18:49:46-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 3.132.584 Military Units 18:49:25-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] Defeat / $203.971.289 18:48:19-2010/06/08


And besides, i thought better of you being in Calvins nation. Not to abuse someone who`s being suicided. So much for courtesy :thumbdown:

Of coarse if could all be planned, that way, hands down, no questions asked

[ooga booga]

Another suicide on Sky? Wtf

Is it Z again? Cause that wouldn't surprise me...

[Calvin74]

Either MR is really fast(read lucky) or has good friends

AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.481.153 Military Units 18:57:52-2010/06/08
SA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.595 Land / 1.547 Buildings, 2 Science, $52.721.066, 20 Food 18:57:37-2010/06/08
SA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 4.560 Land / 4.423 Buildings, 2 Science, $54.351.615, 21 Food 18:56:56-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.566.304 Military Units 18:56:34-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.637.922 Military Units 18:56:20-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.712.815 Military Units 18:54:59-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.791.132 Military Units 18:54:18-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.873.030 Military Units 18:54:15-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 1.958.673 Military Units 18:53:56-2010/06/08
SA Marine Recon(#23)[CR] Gold(#63)[Sky] 5.663 Land / 5.494 Buildings, 3 Science, $56.032.593, 21 Food 18:53:16-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.090.296 Military Units 18:52:56-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.186.399 Military Units 18:52:48-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.286.920 Military Units 18:52:39-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.392.063 Military Units 18:51:52-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.502.041 Military Units 18:51:41-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.617.074 Military Units 18:51:18-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.737.396 Military Units 18:51:01-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.863.251 Military Units 18:50:01-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 2.994.891 Military Units 18:49:46-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] 3.132.584 Military Units 18:49:25-2010/06/08
AA Ground(#54)[GSA] Gold(#63)[Sky] Defeat / $203.971.289 18:48:19-2010/06/08


And besides, i thought better of you being in Calvins nation. Not to abuse someone who`s being suicided. So much for courtesy :thumbdown:

Of coarse if could all be planned, that way, hands down, no questions asked


i will be talking to him but i have faith that he didn't plan this or have any foreknowledge of it happening. he just happened to be the one that saw it. i still wouldn't have grabbed him if it had been me and we will talk to sky about it.
speaking of which sky contact me on msn sometime:P
obsidianwow@Hotmail.com

[vussu]

you guys really hate us

[Calvin74]

you guys really hate us

i don't even know you
i hate suiciders with a passion and think they are the worst kind of player that should be given temporary bans....

[glavchev]

it was so vulgar ..... why whenever someone climbed on top, always found someone to do such things .... in this way how the game will become attractive ....if you think it is unattainable,just declare war and kill him, but no such vulgar performances.....I do not support such action and I think any good player in this game would not do it....sry about that Gold(#63)

[Calvin74]

it was so vulgar ..... why whenever someone climbed on top, always found someone to do such things .... in this way how the game will become attractive ....if you think it is unattainable,just declare war and kill him, but no such vulgar performances.....I do not support such action and I think any good player in this game would not do it....sry about that Gold(#63)

i agree
we are in the process of taking care of #54 and i will try to talk to the sky people about what happened.

does mr p still do state roll backs or was that canceled?

[Calvin74]

ABT got the kill on #54 but good job to everyone that took part.
Hopefully if we all work together we can slow down some of the suiciding.

[glavchev]

I propose a change .... if a player has spent less than 80 or 90% turns than I am, can not make attacks other than SA ..... except when we are at war

[Calvin74]

I propose a change .... if a player has spent less than 80 or 90% turns than I am, can not make attacks other than SA ..... except when we are at war

but what about the suiciders that play from the beginning?

[Mr President]

honestly no matter what we do there is never a 100% way to stop a suicider.. Unless we take the war attacks out of the game and the warring part as well, which then the game is no fun..

The only way to prevent suiciding is for those to care more about the game then their personal grudges.. Only then will the game be fully free of suiciders.

[glavchev]

1st...if he plays from the beginning he would not know who would climb on top
2nd...also weave will not know where he is weak to know what to buy...
....and finally, anyone who wants to climb on top will be motivated to play their turns to be unattainable.................
from my experience in this game came to this conclusion

[Calvin74]

1st...if he plays from the beginning he would not know who would climb on top
2nd...also weave will not know where he is weak to know what to buy...
....and finally, anyone who wants to climb on top will be motivated to play their turns to be unattainable.................
from my experience in this game came to this conclusion

right but this suicider probably played just as many turns as the top guy.
this will stop mid set suiciders though:)

[glavchev]

every suicider is either multi or friend of someone who has an interest in these attacks ... when I was attacked, I've played 1000 turns and Spect (the guy who AR me) only 499 turns....
possibility of such suicider attack at the top states, the game is not as attractive...
if suicider is played as me and can overcome me then no problem ....... but if he log in once in two days ... and not even take a bonus .... and someone told him that 5 million ships breaking me on AA .... how it will be fair

[Calvin74]

every suicider is either multi or friend of someone who has an interest in these attacks ... when I was attacked, I've played 1000 turns and Spect (the guy who AR me) only 499 turns....
possibility of such suicider attack at the top states, the game is not as attractive...
if suicider is played as me and can overcome me then no problem ....... but if it is log in once in two days ... and not even take a bonus .... and someone told him that 5 million ships breaking me on AA .... how it will be fair

i agree this might help
but at some point the admin can only make so many rules and enforce so many restrictions gameplay.....

[glavchev]

must make changes so that the game can attract as many players ..... all the old players are for it and I'm one of them ....... I'm sure this game has the potential to involve many players .... But nasty things , to fix them now.....

[Mr President]

I am all for any suggestions on helping curb the suiciding problem.. Make a post in the suggestions section of the forums and then everyone can reply and work things out till we come with the best possible result.. Once that happens then I will work on making it happen :)

[glavchev]

I posted......here (http://forums.nation-wars.com/showthread.php?p=127209#post127209)
I regret that by departing from the theme of today's blatant attacks ....
but this is my point..

[ooga booga]

I posted......here (http://forums.nation-wars.com/showthread.php?p=127209#post127209)
I regret that by departing from the theme of today's blatant attacks ....
but this is my point..

Your suggestion may stop some suiciders but it may not solve all of them. I am a stocker at the bottom of the lists right now and I have used 1.2k turns. So technically that wouldn't be enough to stop me from suiciding. (don't worry I'm not a suicider) It may make you feel better that you weren't broken by someone who isn't even active, and I agree that that shouldn't happen. But it won't solve everyone's problems (in this particular SKY case for instance).

[glavchev]

my idea is to stop those who are not active ..... and are here only to delay others..#54 not made any attack for last 72 hours...we all know what it means to not attack 72 hours....but he log in today and make AA on top state....

[Soviet Russia]

I am disappointed that a suicider is wasting GSA's name.

Also, that 'Gold' guy is a quite helpful player; giving tactics & helping newbies and noobs. Fortunately, he is still at the 2nd place.

[MarineRecon]

i was actually just lookin for grabs when that happened...i got alma luckily when i saw he had no attacks on him which was a shock then i found a couple other ok attacks then i saw the AAs and jumped on that...the SA was wrong of me but thats happened to me so many times its not funny same with gettin suicided out of the top so i noe how it feels...but i didnt plan it just in the right or wrong spot depending on how u look at it

[Lord Burch]

you guys really hate us

The only one who dislikes Sky is me, I still owe them payback for them taking me out of the running of CTF that one match...but nvm I'll stop spamming the thread....:p

[Margus]

Thanks CR (and one ABT) for taking 54 out so quickly : )
does anyone have any idea who he was tho? theres "ask Kris why" in his nation rank, but Kris has been busy in real life and isn't very active this set, hasn't even had any time to log into msn, so I doubt it's Kris fault.

[Max Logan]

Thanks CR (and one ABT) for taking 54 out so quickly : )
does anyone have any idea who he was tho? theres "ask Kris why" in his nation rank, but Kris has been busy in real life and isn't very active this set, hasn't even had any time to log into msn, so I doubt it's Kris fault.

Most prob it`s Z or some other WLF guy you offended the other set

[ooga booga]

Thanks CR (and one ABT) for taking 54 out so quickly : )
does anyone have any idea who he was tho? theres "ask Kris why" in his nation rank, but Kris has been busy in real life and isn't very active this set, hasn't even had any time to log into msn, so I doubt it's Kris fault.

I'm assuming the fact that Z posted in the thread "WLF = WTF" and had a sarcastic message directed at blaa, and he hadn't posted on these forums in a month only to come out after he died but suicided you guys that it was Z. Throw in the fact that he's the most immature person in this game and is still mad that he lost a war that he started to Sky 3-4 months ago and it makes sense it's him.

If Mr P wants to make real changes, he can start with banning losers like Z.

[SkyCat]

is sucsiding allowed? if then i should every set aa top states for fun a while, in first week or so this is really easy...

[Disorder]

I am also disapointed in the Suicider.. this is what 3 sets in a row now?? I do not support the suicide on sky or any of their members... :think::

[Dogma]

i was actually just lookin for grabs when that happened...i got alma luckily when i saw he had no attacks on him which was a shock then i found a couple other ok attacks then i saw the AAs and jumped on that...the SA was wrong of me but thats happened to me so many times its not funny same with gettin suicided out of the top so i noe how it feels...but i didnt plan it just in the right or wrong spot depending on how u look at it


That was just as bad as the suicider. What reprisal is Marine getting?

[Calvin74]

That was just as bad as the suicider. What reprisal is Marine getting?

that hasn't been talked about yet with all parties involved and i am trying to get a hold of any Sky player to talk about it

Maargus please jump on msn and we can talk about that and other factors of the suicide.

[Calvin74]

That was just as bad as the suicider. What reprisal is Marine getting?

also looking ingame they have already grabbed him and jumped his state so they should be able to get their land back
i am open to any other ideas but not here please msg me on msn....

[ooga booga]

also looking ingame they have already grabbed him and jumped his state so they should be able to get their land back
i am open to any other ideas but not here please msg me on msn....

That's a different state, and he didn't even recover half the land. Gold still got royally screwed. I know what repercussions I'd be demanding but I'm not sky. :)

[Calvin74]

That's a different state, and he didn't even recover half the land. Gold still got royally screwed. I know what repercussions I'd be demanding but I'm not sky. :)

still waiting on sky to message me
they can't demand to much since we played 0 part in the suicide. however having been in the same position as they were i am more than willing to talk and figure out what we can do to help them out

[ooga booga]

still waiting on sky to message me
they can't demand to much since we played 0 part in the suicide. however having been in the same position as they were i am more than willing to talk and figure out what we can do to help them out

I know, but I think that Gold should at least be able to grab Marine back and retake 1st. Marine most likely would have never been able to get ahead of Gold hadn't he grabbed him when he was AA'd. To me that'd be a fair rebuttal.

[Lord Burch]

Go Marine Go!:laugh:

[blaa]

Brings a tear into my eye that everybody are working together and agreeing that there's a problem!

No more 'balance' jibberjabber! No more unjustice! Together we can!

[Calvin74]

I know, but I think that Gold should at least be able to grab Marine back and retake 1st. Marine most likely would have never been able to get ahead of Gold hadn't he grabbed him when he was AA'd. To me that'd be a fair rebuttal.

well this has been dealt with between CR and SKY. they know we had nothing to do with it and infact took up the effort to kill the suiciding state. everything is good between our two nations so we don't have to discuss that anymore:)

[boostah]

well this has been dealt with between CR and SKY. they know we had nothing to do with it and infact took up the effort to kill the suiciding state. everything is good between our two nations so we don't have to discuss that anymore:)

SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 10.607 Land / 10.578 Buildings, 11 Science, $155.801.901, 3.667 Food 20:04:06-2010/06/13
SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $164.657.806 20:02:15-2010/06/13
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $110.258.907 19:59:49-2010/06/13

How about this, surely this has been agreed on i hope ?

[Calvin74]

SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 10.607 Land / 10.578 Buildings, 11 Science, $155.801.901, 3.667 Food 20:04:06-2010/06/13
SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $164.657.806 20:02:15-2010/06/13
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $110.258.907 19:59:49-2010/06/13

How about this, surely this has been agreed on i hope ?

well being as I am in neither of those nations that really isn't on me to agree on there.

[Salabanzi]

Well that grab was quite good surprise for me when I logged in, I wasn´t logged in for 12 hours and hoped no one would SA me :P
This is some nasty SA technique and as far as i know no one has agreed on anything :D
These CTU guys are clever, the are running almost on full inf and minimum AR defense...so they managed to break me, but still they have the most balanced states i've ever seen in top ten :D:D

[Max Logan]

SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 10.607 Land / 10.578 Buildings, 11 Science, $155.801.901, 3.667 Food 20:04:06-2010/06/13
SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $164.657.806 20:02:15-2010/06/13
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $110.258.907 19:59:49-2010/06/13

How about this, surely this has been agreed on i hope ?

probaly sold stuff to use turns and didn`t expect CTU to get that high :p

[ooga booga]

SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 10.607 Land / 10.578 Buildings, 11 Science, $155.801.901, 3.667 Food 20:04:06-2010/06/13
SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $164.657.806 20:02:15-2010/06/13
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $110.258.907 19:59:49-2010/06/13

How about this, surely this has been agreed on i hope ?

What is there to agree upon? Nothing illegal was done. 2 guys failed 1 SA each, and the 3rd guy broke once. Clever technique indeed, but nothing foul it seems.

And Salabanzi was that sarcasm you were using for them being balanced? lol To be fair Jack Bauer the #2 state is probably doing what Kris did last set after he was originally suicided. Keep going heavy inf if he has any chance to recover and remain playing at the top...

[Max Logan]

What is there to agree upon? Nothing illegal was done. 2 guys failed 1 SA each, and the 3rd guy broke once. Clever technique indeed, but nothing foul it seems.

And Salabanzi was that sarcasm you were using for them being balanced? lol To be fair Jack Bauer the #2 state is probably doing what Kris did last set after he was originally suicided. Keep going heavy inf if he has any chance to recover and remain playing at the top...

actually, we were at war

[ooga booga]

actually, we were at war

That's right I forgot, lol. Guess he sold a lot of his jets than after the war?

[Salabanzi]

And Salabanzi was that sarcasm you were using for them being balanced? lol To be fair Jack Bauer the #2 state is probably doing what Kris did last set after he was originally suicided. Keep going heavy inf if he has any chance to recover and remain playing at the top...
Yes it was sarcasm :D There are 3 CTU states in top ten who have less than 1 mil jets. Seems like all CTU states are doing what Kris did last round then.

[Margus]

Although salabanzi is my friend, I liked the teamwork for the grab, very good job. Especially the fact that Jack Bauer was AR-d and sold his stuff a while back.. seeing this made me want to jump back to top too, I'm the state that got AA-d by Z.
Where have you guys been all this time? I mean especially Jack Bauer, he seems to be a good player but I don't know anything about him :S

[Devil]

Although salabanzi is my friend, I liked the teamwork for the grab, very good job. Especially the fact that Jack Bauer was AR-d and sold his stuff a while back.. seeing this made me want to jump back to top too, I'm the state that got AA-d by Z.
Where have you guys been all this time? I mean especially Jack Bauer, he seems to be a good player but I don't know anything about him :S

used to go by sunking. He's one of the many bg'ers who are among the netting elite

[glavchev]

Although salabanzi is my friend, I liked the teamwork for the grab, very good job. Especially the fact that Jack Bauer was AR-d and sold his stuff a while back.. seeing this made me want to jump back to top too, I'm the state that got AA-d by Z.
Where have you guys been all this time? I mean especially Jack Bauer, he seems to be a good player but I don't know anything about him :S

Devil is right I'm TheSunKing.actually I had no idea that the game is resumed and therefore not seen me before.Now I'm here and I think for a long time :tongue::

[Max Logan]

Devil is right I'm TheSunKing.actually I had no idea that the game is resumed and therefore not seen me before.Now I'm here and I think for a long time :tongue::

2nd best thing I heard today!

[ooga booga]

Devil is right I'm TheSunKing.actually I had no idea that the game is resumed and therefore not seen me before.Now I'm here and I think for a long time :tongue::

And you guys pull off again another successful hit on Salabanzi. I don't think I have seen a competition for 1st place like this in a long time!! Wow. Salabanzi is a good player too. Love to see it interesting up top, it's exciting to watch. :P

[MarineRecon]

so im assuming you guys are going to say this new suicide on sky is -Z- also even though it would be impossible for him to have made a new state with that low of a number??? lol i love all you losers that point fingers without knowing for sure =)

[Max Logan]

so im assuming you guys are going to say this new suicide on sky is -Z- also even though it would be impossible for him to have made a new state with that low of a number??? lol i love all you losers that point fingers without knowing for sure =)

this was the 1st suicide on Sky this set...
But you know better, oh great winner

[Salabanzi]

Well seems like this set is over for me, but there was also another suicider state number 159(he bombed a lot my buildings with 8m spies), and 159 is much bigger number than 113.

[Salabanzi]

this was the 1st suicide on Sky this set...
But you know better, oh great winner
It was actually the second, first one was on Gold who had quite good lead.

[MarineRecon]

looks like i do know better max, your such a tool

[Margus]

yes #159 is Z according to his "date joined". He bombed 12k salabanzi buildings and then minutes after that #113 started AR-ing salabanzi.

I have never seen such a bad looser before like Z is... this is just pathetic. I could understand if you wanted to war or something, but just cowardly suiciding... there is basically nothing we can do about it. (unless salabanzi sold most of his inf and made better defence, but he is currently in a netrace and he had more than 10m AR defence when there is a state in top5 with less than 600k ar defence and 280m+ inf... so I think salabanzi had pretty good defence + we kinda hoped that the pointless suiciding ended for this set)

[MarineRecon]

i know nothing about the bombings i was talking about the #113 guy since thats all everybody else can see lol

[Calvin74]

i know nothing about the bombings i was talking about the #113 guy since thats all everybody else can see lol

you ever gonna get on msn and explain your actions?

[Lord Burch]

i know nothing about the bombings i was talking about the #113 guy since thats all everybody else can see lol

Even if you did, I'd cheer you on. I hate Sky, also I wouldn't be surprised if Z did so as he hates Sky as much as me, if not more so...

:thumbup:

[Calvin74]

Even if you did, I'd cheer you on. I hate Sky, also I wouldn't be surprised if Z did so as he hates Sky as much as me, if not more so...

:thumbup:

what did sky ever do to piss you off?

[BeeNo]

they killed him in capture the flag one set.

[Calvin74]

they killed him in capture the flag one set.

wait so in a "war" game they killed him one set and he can't seem to get over it? WOW is all i can say to that....

[ooga booga]

wait so in a "war" game they killed him one set and he can't seem to get over it? WOW is all i can say to that....

Well Z seems to can't get over 4 sets ago when he lost a war that he started too. If people grew up or even acted their age this game would be so much better. :glare:

[Cemetary]

just aa raped a few ctu guys.. i was planning on warring with lor but since that ended too quickly i decided to go ahead and hit them solo

you can count it as a suicide if you want, idc, but since i was planning on warring them with lor you can count it as a late war hit :p

anyways, im out til next set

and, i could say it was a retaliation for this

SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 12.010 Land / 12.010 Buildings, 11 Science, $91.606.464, 7.383 Food 14:03:17-2010/06/15
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $146.917.489 13:59:54-2010/06/15
SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / 13:56:39-2010/06/1

i mean come on, good ole fashion having your nation mates failing on the target so he loses enough military for you to grab him, to me, thats just as bad as AAing

Sky, theres a little help from me to retain your top spots after Z suicided you :p

[glavchev]

just aa raped a few ctu guys.. i was planning on warring with lor but since that ended too quickly i decided to go ahead and hit them solo

you can count it as a suicide if you want, idc, but since i was planning on warring them with lor you can count it as a late war hit :p

anyways, im out til next set

and, i could say it was a retaliation for this

SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 12.010 Land / 12.010 Buildings, 11 Science, $91.606.464, 7.383 Food 14:03:17-2010/06/15
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $146.917.489 13:59:54-2010/06/15
SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / 13:56:39-2010/06/1

i mean come on, good ole fashion having your nation mates failing on the target so he loses enough military for you to grab him, to me, thats just as bad as AAing

Sky, theres a little help from me to retain your top spots after Z suicided you :p

while there are players like you, z ,and other suicider there is no way to attract new players...will continue to play with 100 members who know may less

[Cemetary]

while there are players like you, z ,and other suicider there is no way to attract new players...will continue to play with 100 members who know may less

so using shady *** tactics to outnet others is ok, as long as you dont throw in aas

[Max Logan]

so using shady *** tactics to outnet others is ok, as long as you dont throw in aas

according to you and DaK it is
don`t go all saint, we`re all old enough to remember

you`re just another suicider that can`t get over the fact that so many people are so freaking better at the game. join the Z corner of little loser babies. and take MR along as he doesn`t seem to be any better :laugh:

I really hope you and Z decide to quit. a bad thing to say, but you PC blowing up and torching down your two place would be one of the best things that happened to the game

[Xavior]

Yep, just another suicide. Quit dressing it up as if you're some saint trying to help SKY or LoR.

They did almost the same thing on me last set, didn't you see helping me then :laugh:

[BeeNo]

i think we've reached an all time high for top states getting AA'd AR'd this set. at least in players/attacks ratio.

[Max Logan]

All time high in ****ed up people in the game


I expect a reverse insult...

[peshta]

just aa raped a few ctu guys.. i was planning on warring with lor but since that ended too quickly i decided to go ahead and hit them solo

you can count it as a suicide if you want, idc, but since i was planning on warring them with lor you can count it as a late war hit :p

anyways, im out til next set

and, i could say it was a retaliation for this

SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 12.010 Land / 12.010 Buildings, 11 Science, $91.606.464, 7.383 Food 14:03:17-2010/06/15
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $146.917.489 13:59:54-2010/06/15
SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / 13:56:39-2010/06/1

i mean come on, good ole fashion having your nation mates failing on the target so he loses enough military for you to grab him, to me, thats just as bad as AAing

Sky, theres a little help from me to retain your top spots after Z suicided you :p

am i missed something? first one of your members hardly tried to obtain information about #73, asking us several times to provide some intel, then after hi didn't get it, he made several BB and AR on Salabanzy, and here is a prove:

Sent: 06:05:51 - Monday 14th of June 2010
Subject: FW: intel on 73
To: #24
Message:
im looking for intel on #73.

This could help u rise in rank.

get back to me, thanks.

2PAC

To: State
From: RapStar(#159)
Date: 21:13:49 - Tuesday 15th of June 2010
Subject: plz

Message:
can i please have intel on 73?

I want to destroy buildings, and or AA

2PAC

Now you say "...Sky, theres a little help from me..." really i'm a little bit confused :confused:

[dimityr]

am i missed something? first one of your members hardly tried to obtain information about #73, asking us several times to provide some intel, then after hi didn't get it, he made several BB and AR on Salabanzy, and here is a prove:

Sent: 06:05:51 - Monday 14th of June 2010
Subject: FW: intel on 73
To: #24
Message:
im looking for intel on #73.

This could help u rise in rank.

get back to me, thanks.

2PAC

To: State
From: RapStar(#159)
Date: 21:13:49 - Tuesday 15th of June 2010
Subject: plz

Message:
can i please have intel on 73?

I want to destroy buildings, and or AA

2PAC

Now you say "...Sky, theres a little help from me..." really i'm a little bit confused :confused:

none of our states not give to him this intel.....but it seems that SKY guys gave them.......Im Chloi O Brain this set

[Salabanzi]

just aa raped a few ctu guys.. i was planning on warring with lor but since that ended too quickly i decided to go ahead and hit them solo

you can count it as a suicide if you want, idc, but since i was planning on warring them with lor you can count it as a late war hit :p

anyways, im out til next set

and, i could say it was a retaliation for this

SA Alma(#24)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] 12.010 Land / 12.010 Buildings, 11 Science, $91.606.464, 7.383 Food 14:03:17-2010/06/15
SA San Mona(#52)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / $146.917.489 13:59:54-2010/06/15
SA Jack Bauer(#34)[CTU] SaLaBaNz1(#73)[Sky] Defeat / 13:56:39-2010/06/1

i mean come on, good ole fashion having your nation mates failing on the target so he loses enough military for you to grab him, to me, thats just as bad as AAing

Sky, theres a little help from me to retain your top spots after Z suicided you :p

I find you kinda overreacted with that AA-ing :S
Thats true that with failed SA-s i lost huge amount inf and almost 1M ships,
but if that was the only way they could compete me legally then why to ruin it, i had quite good thrill, and that Z suiciding ended my competition with them.

[Margus]

none of our states not give to him this intel.....but it seems that SKY guys gave them.......Im Chloi O Brain this set
what? we didn't know about it and no1 asked intels from us.. i dont even remember the last time i spoke with cemetary.

[KelpKris]

none of our states not give to him this intel.....but it seems that SKY guys gave them.......Im Chloi O Brain this set

And why should we give intels to those who have suicided us for the last x sets?

[boostah]

according to you and DaK it is
don`t go all saint, we`re all old enough to remember


Let me point out that the dak core, never used that kind of shady tactics (i mean with this gnorf, raven, recca, cem, me, punisher,....). Talking about back then, we all know calvin isn't really dak, neither is jameswheel, .... Dont know what other players did in the mean while

And suiciding was there a way time back to, instead of running the stupid net race with all inf, they got defenses, let the top guy run all infantry, if suiciding is here every set, he'll get screwed anyway :p

[glavchev]

none of our states not give to him this intel.....but it seems that SKY guys gave them.......Im Chloi O Brain this set


I do not think they have something in common .....but who know....Gold jump twice this set and twice times was when our states was AA.....I truly believe that a coincidence .... but still have one in mind...

[ooga booga]

I do not think they have something in common .....but who know....Gold jump twice this set and twice times was when our states was AA.....I truly believe that a coincidence .... but still have one in mind...

It depends the way you look at it. You look at him jumping and think it's suspicious. I look at it that he saw you guys got AA'd and decided it was just a good time to jump. When people get AA'd like that up top of course that's the best time to jump, so that's what he did.

[Max Logan]

I find you kinda overreacted with that AA-ing :S
Thats true that with failed SA-s i lost huge amount inf and almost 1M ships,
but if that was the only way they could compete me legally then why to ruin it, i had quite good thrill, and that Z suiciding ended my competition with them.

It`s just bull**** talking from Cem, don`t mind it.


And I don`t think Margus had anything to do with suiciding on CTU. Ok Estonians might not play 100% fair and all, but suiciding and BS like that isn`t really their field

[Salabanzi]

Btw Margus jumped already yesterday when CTU states were in top(and had grabbed me already) he wanted to SA them but their full inf was too strong for him.
And now when CTU states where AA-d he is in second place!
Margus definitely is NOT involved with this suiciding.
Margus did also a very good favour to me yesterday, he sabotaged the suiciders jets so that 6k land I lost with AR-s was the minimum, without his help the losses would have been atleast 10k land.

[-Z-]

I find it amusing how My name is being used here as some sort of fodder...

From what I understand Sky has had some states suicide on their competition?

Sounds typical to me.

These are the types of things Sky does so they can pretend to have won.

I ask that you leave my name out of your arguments and tactics unless I am actually involved in the set.

I have not be playing this game for a while now but I plan to return one day.

Z

[totte]

that your mentioned in these posts has to do with this post you made a few sets ago after loseing a war you started.. so dont seam so suprised :P

I dont really care anymore.

Im not leaving this set in this set.

I will be taking this set into the next 4-6 sets. probably only 4, but possibly up to 6.

I have a small group of people who will be assisting me,

none of us take kindly the type of lies we have been fed this set.

Z

allthou that you might have forgotten this or just choose to ignore that fact is not supriseing ;)

[Margus]

I do not think they have something in common .....but who know....Gold jump twice this set and twice times was when our states was AA.....I truly believe that a coincidence .... but still have one in mind...
Our nation wasn't very good at start and i had to wait till i could drop tax.. I could of overjumped to first before the war on you guys, too. (well i can't be sure about overjumping you before the AR-s on you by nhn, you had a pretty good start)
And when i "jumped" yesterday i just wanted to see if i could help salabanzi in top and grab some of you guys, but i had stored turns so i waited on them. then salabanzi told me on msn that he is being hit and i inteled #113 who was AR-ing salabanzi. I saw like 18m jets and 0 spies.. i wasted around 50 turns sabotaging his airbases which made me go even higher in top.. and then later on i log in and see that i'm second in top :S wasn't intentional. and i cant even remember when was the last time i got to top because of war.. more than half year at least or maybe even a year.

I find it amusing how My name is being used here as some sort of fodder...

From what I understand Sky has had some states suicide on their competition?

Sounds typical to me.

These are the types of things Sky does so they can pretend to have won.

I ask that you leave my name out of your arguments and tactics unless I am actually involved in the set.

I have not be playing this game for a while now but I plan to return one day.

Z
dude, #159 and your forum account have been registered on the SAME day, you can see that in all state scores under your profile. + #159 has medal of Medal Of Superiority and Medal Of Development. oooh what a coincidence, so do you. nice try tho

edit: #159-s profile (and your restart #182's) shows even that it's Community Rank: Captain, and so do you in forums. just had to add this so you have no way to lie yourself out like you just tried with that post

[Max Logan]

I find it amusing how My name is being used here as some sort of fodder...

From what I understand Sky has had some states suicide on their competition?

Sounds typical to me.

These are the types of things Sky does so they can pretend to have won.

I ask that you leave my name out of your arguments and tactics unless I am actually involved in the set.

I have not be playing this game for a while now but I plan to return one day.

Z

you can only brag about kill you made while LoR did most of the job and you acted as a poor lapdog you always were

you can`t even take responsibility for your actions you have to bluntly lie and make excuses, cuz you`re weak and coward.

so much for the greatest warrior of the greatest warring nation ever

How typical of you

:laugh:

[MarineRecon]

i might have to go back to my old suiciding ways soon if this **** keeps goin on...theres no rules on how pepl can play the game...if u dont like being suicided then get defenses, if u dont like netting then war, if u dont like warring then net...doesnt mean ure gonna play that way in the end but deal wit it and if u dont like how sumbody plays or sumthing is goin on then deal take care of business...u guys complain about every **** thing that happens in this game its pitiful...nobody is ever gonna be happy so stfu

[glavchev]

Our nation wasn't very good at start and i had to wait till i could drop tax.. I could of overjumped to first before the war on you guys, too. (well i can't be sure about overjumping you before the AR-s on you by nhn, you had a pretty good start)
And when i "jumped" yesterday i just wanted to see if i could help salabanzi in top and grab some of you guys, but i had stored turns so i waited on them. then salabanzi told me on msn that he is being hit and i inteled #113 who was AR-ing salabanzi. I saw like 18m jets and 0 spies.. i wasted around 50 turns sabotaging his airbases which made me go even higher in top.. and then later on i log in and see that i'm second in top :S wasn't intentional. and i cant even remember when was the last time i got to top because of war.. more than half year at least or maybe even a year.

I said: "I truly believe that a coincidence"....and I truly believe...

[Max Logan]

i might have to go back to my old suiciding ways soon if this **** keeps goin on...theres no rules on how pepl can play the game...if u dont like being suicided then get defenses, if u dont like netting then war, if u dont like warring then net...doesnt mean ure gonna play that way in the end but deal wit it and if u dont like how sumbody plays or sumthing is goin on then deal take care of business...u guys complain about every **** thing that happens in this game its pitiful...nobody is ever gonna be happy so stfu

95% are happy and 5 ****ing suiciders just want wank off ruining someones game. that`s not a way to play. that`s pathetic.

suicide each other if you`re so full of yourselves and your egos.

or better, stay the **** away from the game!

[glavchev]

95% are happy and 5 ****ing suiciders just want wank off ruining someones game. that`s not a way to play. that`s pathetic.

suicide each other if you`re so full of yourselves and your egos.

or better, stay the **** away from the game!

I agree with this!

[MarineRecon]

all we hear about every set is pepl complain when LoR wars sumbody because they like to war...thats a good 20 pepl right there that need to leave the game to make all u pathetic pepl that just wanna net every set happy

[Xavior]

all we hear about every set is pepl complain when LoR wars sumbody because they like to war...thats a good 20 pepl right there that need to leave the game to make all u pathetic pepl that just wanna net every set happy

Warring and suiciding is totally different.

But we've had this conversation in the past, you and I. And it led no where, because its hard to have a conversation with someone with 3000 brain cells.

It was better when you were gone quite honestly.

[Max Logan]

all we hear about every set is pepl complain when LoR wars sumbody because they like to war...thats a good 20 pepl right there that need to leave the game to make all u pathetic pepl that just wanna net every set happy

Nah, Lor can stay

Z, Cem, nhn and you will be enough for now!

[Xavior]

dude, #159 and your forum account have been registered on the SAME day, you can see that in all state scores under your profile. + #159 has medal of Medal Of Superiority and Medal Of Development. oooh what a coincidence, so do you. nice try tho

edit: #159-s profile (and your restart #182's) shows even that it's Community Rank: Captain, and so do you in forums. just had to add this so you have no way to lie yourself out like you just tried with that post

Margus, where can I see this profile?

edit: Found it :)

[Mr President]

all we hear about every set is pepl complain when LoR wars sumbody because they like to war...thats a good 20 pepl right there that need to leave the game to make all u pathetic pepl that just wanna net every set happy

Marine these are two different things. The only reason people complain about LoR is cause there is low member count and LoR normally has higher numbers and it seems unfair in war.. The cure to that is higher numbers.. But here is the flip side.....Suiciding makes people leave, in return now we have low numbers. It seems never ending lol..

Personally I have no problem with someone getting a little revenge. I like to see things left in the same set, but there are times when it must carry over to the next. What i do have a problem with is when it's carried on set after set.

People say get better defense, but how can this happen? How can any state have defense against a state that just hides and builds millions of one unit and then attacks for no other reason then to ruin someone else's set.
If this suicider was in a nation and that whole nation decided to declare war and attack then to me that is not suiciding.. Saving up one type of unit and then just hitting the top state is complete suiciding..

The other thing that really pisses me off is when i send a message to someone and ask them to stop doing something and they just ignore me and continue doing it.

I intervene as little as I have to in this game and when I send a message it isn't cause i'm bored and have nothing else to do. I send it cause i mean it and would hope it's followed. My number one concern is this game and it succeeding. A lot of time is spent on it so when someone just ignores a request cause they have their own personal vendetta's against others then it's like spitting in my face and not giving two ****s about anyone else or anything else but that vendetta.

Now due to these kinds of stupid actions I have to spend time working on how to better prevent suiciding and make up all these new stupid rules that will help prevent it. And once again the game is going to change cause of all these stupid things I have to do cause a very small amount of people can't let things go..

The time I am spending on this crap could be better spent somewhere else.. And suiciders think that their actions are no big deal except to the state they hit. WRONG! It effects everyone!

[Max Logan]

People should start considering their hurting their own friends and themselves in the long run. Instead of playing next set, seeking new goals or try and reach old ones, they leave, hide and just suicide for their own pleasure. That`s helping no one, and the only real thing it shows, is how immature people are and can`t keep themselves at bay.

Suiciding never has been anything positive and always people are remember not by what they achieve but what negative they do. I don`t think anyone ever remembers what LoR won...we remember how they warred smaller nations for the lulz.

Same with Z, who will care what 2nd hand nation he was in, what he lead, people will remember that he was a sore loser who was incapable to achieve anything and resorted to lowly suiciding. A big image! I`m not even talking about Cem...you can put your DaK history behind, now we see it was never your nation, you weren`t even part of its soul, cuz you`re a freaking kid seeking fun at other expenses, an action never performed by Gnorf...Sorry guys, but you`re a low class, good for nothing suiciders. Cheerz!

[glavchev]

People should start considering their hurting their own friends and themselves in the long run. Instead of playing next set, seeking new goals or try and reach old ones, they leave, hide and just suicide for their own pleasure. That`s helping no one, and the only real thing it shows, is how immature people are and can`t keep themselves at bay.

Suiciding never has been anything positive and always people are remember not by what they achieve but what negative they do. I don`t think anyone ever remembers what LoR won...we remember how they warred smaller nations for the lulz.

Same with Z, who will care what 2nd hand nation he was in, what he lead, people will remember that he was a sore loser who was incapable to achieve anything and resorted to lowly suiciding. A big image! I`m not even talking about Cem...you can put your DaK history behind, now we see it was never your nation, you weren`t even part of its soul, cuz you`re a freaking kid seeking fun at other expenses, an action never performed by Gnorf...Sorry guys, but you`re a low class, good for nothing suiciders. Cheerz!

Have to agree with that too......No one can remember you ***** suciders , but evrey one can remember ppl like me,MADBG,AVATARBG,Peshta,banana,m00nl0rd......(thi s is all bger ),Cris,Calvin,James,Sven,Aniara,Totte,Nasso,Grenda l Khan,......and many other which at the moment I can not remember and new players who still do not know well, but it is clear that they are good.

These are people who know how to jump to the top. These are people who know how to be useful for its nation. How to lead their own nation. Who know how to war. And know how to learn New members in this game. and you know only how to pi** on work of other

[pron]

Except for the Sky suicides, I think you people should stop complaining about suiciding. We had very low suicides the past few sets, and this set there was an early war with casualties--and guess what? Your nation got suicided by restarts and outside tags. That's bound to happen in a war set. You say its a trend, but last set was fairly low in suicides. Get over it as your nation warred and you can expect to be hit the rest of the set by restarts and people that have grudges for being killed.

However, Sky can be upset about their suicides :) But that's one suicide or two this set? That's not a lot of suiciding that is killing the game...

[Max Logan]

Except for the Sky suicides, I think you people should stop complaining about suiciding. We had very low suicides the past few sets, and this set there was an early war with casualties--and guess what? Your nation got suicided by restarts and outside tags. That's bound to happen in a war set. You say its a trend, but last set was fairly low in suicides. Get over it as your nation warred and you can expect to be hit the rest of the set by restarts and people that have grudges for being killed.

However, Sky can be upset about their suicides :) But that's one suicide or two this set? That's not a lot of suiciding that is killing the game...

very low? :huh:


I withdraw from further comments on pron`s posts

[BeeNo]

pron, i think its more concern because sky guys have been hit so many times in a row. -z-, you may not realize this, but those horde states you warred? that was margus and some of the other players who are normally in sky every set. so that is why sky entered the war. now i'm surprised none of you in WLF planned on dealing with sky when you warred horde, because i saw it coming.

so please just take a minute and look at their side of it. they were in horde, got warred by WLF, lost their states and called in help to win the war. after that you swore revenge and have gone to suicides for the last 3 months. so margus and other sky states have had their sets ruined by you for 4 months simply because they called in help from their old nation and won the war against you. were they not supposed to fight back?

now if you want revenge, i can see getting your nation back together and making an honest effort to maybe get an ally or something along those lines so you can get them next time. unfortunately you choose a different route.

max and xav, calm down fellas :*(

[pron]

very low? :huh:


I withdraw from further comments on pron`s posts

Yes--very low--not nearly the apocalyptic levels that people are complaining about in this thread. There were several posts about it being at the lowest point in a long time before this set.

Of course suicides are gonna be on the rise when your nation wars another nation--people want revenge for their state being killed, or they want revenge for you killing off their nation mates. CTU shouldn't have left themselves open to suicides after warring another nation.

[pron]

pron, i think its more concern because sky guys have been hit so many times in a row. -z-, you may not realize this, but those horde states you warred? that was margus and some of the other players who are normally in sky every set. so that is why sky entered the war. now i'm surprised none of you in WLF planned on dealing with sky when you warred horde, because i saw it coming.

so please just take a minute and look at their side of it. they were in horde, got warred by WLF, lost their states and called in help to win the war. after that you swore revenge and have gone to suicides for the last 3 months. so margus and other sky states have had their sets ruined by you for 4 months simply because they called in help from their old nation and won the war against you. were they not supposed to fight back?

now if you want revenge, i can see getting your nation back together and making an honest effort to maybe get an ally or something along those lines so you can get them next time. unfortunately you choose a different route.

I totally agree that the suicides on Sky were pathetic--so we're on the same page with that. I'm talking about all the recent talk about with the "suicide" on CTU.

[BeeNo]

well, would you agree that nhn's friend using AR's to help himself capture the top spot counts as a suicide?

even if this 2nd round of attacks on CTU is can be justified from lor, that still leaves 3 AR/AA runs on top states? i don't know but that number seems high to me.

[glavchev]

I totally agree that the suicides on Sky were pathetic--so we're on the same page with that. I'm talking about all the recent talk about with the "suicide" on CTU.


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u want to tell me the this is not sucide.......

[Calvin74]

this game would be better off w/o Z, and I am starting to think marine and cem should be on that list.

Z you clearly used two states (1 a restart) to suicide. you can see the states linked and then you try to act like it wasn't you. you talk big when you aren't doing anything and hide like a little girl when you actually did something. grow some balls and at least admit to being a chicken.

marine you deleted your state and god knows where you are now for the simple fact that you couldn't hang with the top netters. i knew that when the set started but you wanted to try and more power to you, but when you fail don't just abandon your teammates w/o even a msg saying you did it. you are honestly the worst person i have ever had in ANY of my tags since this game started. I thought maybe you had grown up so I tried to give you a chance and I see that backfired on me. I will never knowingly let you in any nation I am in again. If you had any part in this suicide then yes I think you should be banned since you bring nothing to the table.

Cem, I really am disapointed in you. I don't know why i thought you were a better player than this but I did have some respect for you, that is all gone now. You suicide on the people that can actually make a difference in this game. Then you try and hide behind your stupid logic saying that it is a continuation of the lor war. Hey lor isn't warring AND they brought this on themselves. If they hadn't deserved it do you really think Devil would hit lor. Lor played cheap tactics this set and actually got what they deserved for once.

You all need to man up and learn to play the game. Cem could be a good player but the other two of you are no talent hacks who since you can't do anything will probably suicide on me for writing this but you need a wake up call and to stop killing the game.

Z you especially need to take your ball and just go home. You bring absolutely nothing to the game and have probably done more harm than anyone in the last year.

[totte]

Yes--very low--not nearly the apocalyptic levels that people are complaining about in this thread. There were several posts about it being at the lowest point in a long time before this set.

Of course suicides are gonna be on the rise when your nation wars another nation--people want revenge for their state being killed, or they want revenge for you killing off their nation mates. CTU shouldn't have left themselves open to suicides after warring another nation.

see this is a mentality problem in the game if you want revenge for being killed in a war well restart and get into your tag and fight back.

now in this case they get smacked peace was negotiated done deal for the set.
now you say they wanted vengence well if this is supose be revenge heck i must say the standards are low i mean they didnt manage even 1 kill thats just plain and simple pathetic....

[pron]

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u want to tell me the this is not sucide.......

He declared war. Suiciders don't declare war.

[pron]

see this is a mentality problem in the game if you want revenge for being killed in a war well restart and get into your tag and fight back.

now in this case they get smacked peace was negotiated done deal for the set.
now you say they wanted vengence well if this is supose be revenge heck i must say the standards are low i mean they didnt manage even 1 kill thats just plain and simple pathetic....

This has been happening since the game first began lol--there are always people that hit the nation that hit them with restarts if peace was declared. You say its a mentality problem, but it has always happened.

[totte]

This has been happening since the game first began lol--there are always people that hit the nation that hit them with restarts if peace was declared. You say its a mentality problem, but it has always happened.

this didnt happen back in the begning of wow actually :P
what we did was either get back into the tag and fight or be in another tag to build up a few days then return into our tag all the while peace wasnt declared:)

[pron]

well, would you agree that nhn's friend using AR's to help himself capture the top spot counts as a suicide?

even if this 2nd round of attacks on CTU is can be justified from lor, that still leaves 3 AR/AA runs on top states? i don't know but that number seems high to me.

Of course it seems high to you, you're a netter lol.

As for NhN scenario, it was obviously a suicide from the other player. And that's why, in my previous post, I said that Sky has a legitimate complaint against suiciders.

[glavchev]

He declared war. Suiciders don't declare war.

23:33:15-2010/06/15 Lost Not Found[LnF] has declared Retaliation on Crimson Guard[CR]
02:40:31-2010/06/16 Lost Not Found[LnF] has declared War on Asbestos[ABT]
03:36:08-2010/06/16 Lost Not Found[LnF] has declared War on Counter Terrorist Units[CTU]

Nation with 3 members in it declare war on three nation with 35 members.....if this is not suciding.....just wondering what for you mean sucide...

[pron]

this didnt happen back in the begning of wow actually :P
what we did was either get back into the tag and fight or be in another tag to build up a few days then return into our tag all the while peace wasnt declared:)

Back when there were 2k players and people could hide in tags? I've been playing since 2k2 and it has been prevalent. Don't know why it is all of the sudden a big surprise lol

[pron]

23:33:15-2010/06/15 Lost Not Found[LnF] has declared Retaliation on Crimson Guard[CR]
02:40:31-2010/06/16 Lost Not Found[LnF] has declared War on Asbestos[ABT]
03:36:08-2010/06/16 Lost Not Found[LnF] has declared War on Counter Terrorist Units[CTU]

Nayion with 3 members in it declare war on three nation with 35 members.....if this is not suciding.....just wondering what for you mean sucide...

Suiciding is obviously a subjective idea. You say its suiciding, I say it isn't. My reason is that war was declared--if a 3 man nation wants to war 3 nations with 35 members, then they can.

Are you saying that unless he had 32 buddies, he can't do anything to get back at those 3 nations?

[Calvin74]

Suiciding is obviously a subjective idea. You say its suiciding, I say it isn't. My reason is that war was declared--if a 3 man nation wants to war 3 nations with 35 members, then they can.

Are you saying that unless he had 32 buddies, he can't do anything to get back at those 3 nations?

it is subjective but i think it comes down to
does he benefit from the war? does he have a real reasoning for the war?
he wasn't in lor when they were hit. also abt/ctu had a legit reason for the war so revenge is out of the question. is lor still at war? no they aren't so he can't claim association with them. i see no valid reason for this suicide since its highly unlikely those top ctu states have done him any real damage this whole set

[MarineRecon]

maybe he wants revenge still from the war and LoR decided they dont wanna be in the war so he has to do it on his own and that was the only way lol

[Calvin74]

maybe he wants revenge still from the war and LoR decided they dont wanna be in the war so he has to do it on his own and that was the only way lol

but why would he want revenge from the war? he wasn't in lor, he wasn't hit, his nation has moved on....

[MarineRecon]

idk im not him...mayb he wanted revenge from a previous set but hasnt been in a nation that hit them to get it so he had to do it on his own...excuses can be made all day long itll never stop

[pron]

lol--he gave his reasoning for the war. Just read back in the thread. And since when do you need a reason to war?

[MarineRecon]

exactly its just the same **** i said before...pepl are gonna always complain about something no matter what...this game wont be perfect for everybody u gotta make the best out of wut u got...sum pepl are happy doing different things

[Calvin74]

exactly its just the same **** i said before...pepl are gonna always complain about something no matter what...this game wont be perfect for everybody u gotta make the best out of wut u got...sum pepl are happy doing different things

i just want there to be a game. if people keep this up there will be nothing in a year. but hey you guys will be happy b/c you had fun and screw what everyone else in the game wants much less what is good for the game

[pron]

i just want there to be a game. if people keep this up there will be nothing in a year. but hey you guys will be happy b/c you had fun and screw what everyone else in the game wants much less what is good for the game

REPENT FOR THE END IS NEAR!! lol

[Calvin74]

REPENT FOR THE END IS NEAR!! lol

i guess i just take the hard work and effort people (esp Mr P) put into this game and yeah i have seen exactly what happens when this stuff goes on and how it affects the game. but yeah don't listen to someone that has experienced the game's ups and downs....

[MarineRecon]

REPENT FOR THE END IS NEAR!! lol

hahahahaha

[pron]

i guess i just take the hard work and effort people (esp Mr P) put into this game and yeah i have seen exactly what happens when this stuff goes on and how it affects the game. but yeah don't listen to someone that has experienced the game's ups and downs....

Yea, you're right, I don't care at all about the hard work people have put into the game.

[boostah]

Yea, you're right, I don't care at all about the hard work people have put into the game.

aaa that's why you atleast use all features they have put in the game and not just buy/produce only infantry all month long :D

[Calvin74]

Yea, you're right, I don't care at all about the hard work people have put into the game.

i don't think i have actually seen you suicide or anything like that. i have respect for you but i think deep down you also know what cem did was a suicide


boostah they had a decent number of ships. they didn't have an AR protection really but we all know it is bs saying well they should have been balanced.
there is absolutely no way to build a balanced state that will fend of all attacks. when someone wants to suicide they can easily do it. anyone that has ever competed for the top spot knows it

[pron]

i don't think i have actually seen you suicide or anything like that. i have respect for you but i think deep down you also know what cem did was a suicide

I really don't think it was a suicide. Even deep down.

[Calvin74]

I really don't think it was a suicide. Even deep down.

then you should
there is just no way for this to be a justified war.....
he never got hit by CTU
he never was in or associated with lor even during the actual war
lor is as peace with CTU

this is clearly a suicide
he has no reason to hit them....

[boostah]

i don't think i have actually seen you suicide or anything like that. i have respect for you but i think deep down you also know what cem did was a suicide


boostah they had a decent number of ships. they didn't have an AR protection really but we all know it is bs saying well they should have been balanced.
there is absolutely no way to build a balanced state that will fend of all attacks. when someone wants to suicide they can easily do it. anyone that has ever competed for the top spot knows it

Agreed, but this is just making it easy to be honest (let me post at suggestion forum too hold on, read it :p)

[Lord Burch]

what did sky ever do to piss you off?

Screwed me out of a win in CTF. I've explained this over and over, yet you keep forgetting...

[Lord Burch]

this game would be better off w/o Z, and I am starting to think marine and cem should be on that list.

Z you clearly used two states (1 a restart) to suicide. you can see the states linked and then you try to act like it wasn't you. you talk big when you aren't doing anything and hide like a little girl when you actually did something. grow some balls and at least admit to being a chicken.

marine you deleted your state and god knows where you are now for the simple fact that you couldn't hang with the top netters. i knew that when the set started but you wanted to try and more power to you, but when you fail don't just abandon your teammates w/o even a msg saying you did it. you are honestly the worst person i have ever had in ANY of my tags since this game started. I thought maybe you had grown up so I tried to give you a chance and I see that backfired on me. I will never knowingly let you in any nation I am in again. If you had any part in this suicide then yes I think you should be banned since you bring nothing to the table.

Cem, I really am disapointed in you. I don't know why i thought you were a better player than this but I did have some respect for you, that is all gone now. You suicide on the people that can actually make a difference in this game. Then you try and hide behind your stupid logic saying that it is a continuation of the lor war. Hey lor isn't warring AND they brought this on themselves. If they hadn't deserved it do you really think Devil would hit lor. Lor played cheap tactics this set and actually got what they deserved for once.

You all need to man up and learn to play the game. Cem could be a good player but the other two of you are no talent hacks who since you can't do anything will probably suicide on me for writing this but you need a wake up call and to stop killing the game.

Z you especially need to take your ball and just go home. You bring absolutely nothing to the game and have probably done more harm than anyone in the last year.

Alright, remember that brief thread that I started then asked to delete? It's because ****ers like you whine and ***** and complain and all this ***** bull****. If anyone should be banned, it should be you who does nothing but whine and complain and being mouthy. Keep your mouth shut punk and then people might actually like you :o

P****!

[Calvin74]

Screwed me out of a win in CTF. I've explained this over and over, yet you keep forgetting...


you think i have sympathy for you getting screwed out of a win?
chances are i have been suicided out of 1st place more times then you have played so don't come to me whining about it happening one time. kill their top state one set and be done with it. carrying on like this is just childish and doesn't help anyone out.

[Lord Burch]

you think i have sympathy for you getting screwed out of a win?
chances are i have been suicided out of 1st place more times then you have played so don't come to me whining about it happening one time. kill their top state one set and be done with it. carrying on like this is just childish and doesn't help anyone out.

Read said statement above ****head!

[Calvin74]

Alright, remember that brief thread that I started then asked to delete? It's because ****ers like you whine and ***** and complain and all this ***** bull****. If anyone should be banned, it should be you who does nothing but whine and complain and being mouthy. Keep your mouth shut punk and then people might actually like you :o

P****!


lol you want me banned thats fine. ask mr p to do it and see what he says:P
you really think i bring nothing to this game but whining and complaining? that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. you can stay misinformed or if you really want you can ask some of the people that have actually been around for a long time.
btw outside of the bgers i led some of the best war tags and won more wars than any other tag. i am all for warring but it needs a reason and not a suicide.

as for calling me a punk and saying no one likes me.... i am over the age of 5 so you can't really hurt my feelings but please try to have a debate w/o the cussing and name calling. some of us like to use what we can intelligence in our arguments. i have faith that you can as well and things might go much better for you then...

[Calvin74]

Read said statement above ****head!

once again with the name calling
is that really all you can argue? play the game for a few years. learn what it takes to be good. then come back and hopefully you can add constructive ideas for the development of the game

[Lord Burch]

lol you want me banned thats fine. ask mr p to do it and see what he says:P
you really think i bring nothing to this game but whining and complaining? that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. you can stay misinformed or if you really want you can ask some of the people that have actually been around for a long time.
btw outside of the bgers i led some of the best war tags and won more wars than any other tag. i am all for warring but it needs a reason and not a suicide.

as for calling me a punk and saying no one likes me.... i am over the age of 5 so you can't really hurt my feelings but please try to have a debate w/o the cussing and name calling. some of us like to use what we can intelligence in our arguments. i have faith that you can as well and things might go much better for you then...

Since when does war need a reason? Think about modern day warfare! Most, if not all wars are pointless. So don't give me that bs about needing a reason, hypocrite.

Just because I cuss does not mean I am not intelligent. In fact I say you need more intelligence because people like you need impactful words such as cussing to get the **** message.

If I wasn't in SLOB trying my best to learn the game properly I would've gone after you as many times as needed to kick your ***.

[Lord Burch]

once again with the name calling
is that really all you can argue? play the game for a few years. learn what it takes to be good. then come back and hopefully you can add constructive ideas for the development of the game

Exactly how is your *****ing and complaining constructive?

Again ****head, you need impactful words to understand the **** message.

[Calvin74]

Since when does war need a reason? Think about modern day warfare! Most, if not all wars are pointless. So don't give me that bs about needing a reason, hypocrite.

Just because I cuss does not mean I am not intelligent. In fact I say you need more intelligence because people like you need impactful words such as cussing to get the **** message.

If I wasn't in SLOB trying my best to learn the game properly I would've gone after you as many times as needed to kick your ***.

if cussing to you is impactful then welcome to puberty...

modern day warfare? what pointless wars are there? even the iraq war has a reason maybe not a good one but there was reason enough for everyone to agree to it at the time.

while you are in there tell dogma to teach you the reasoning of the game as well. hopefully you can learn something from dogma and be half the player he is....

i am not really scared of anyone in this game so if you really want a legit war then make a strong nation and lets go. and then drop it. carrying a grudge, especially one b/c you insulted me in the forums, is not really productive for the game

[Calvin74]

Exactly how is your *****ing and complaining constructive?

Again ****head, you need impactful words to understand the **** message.

i do much more than complaining but if you choose not to see it than that is up to you. it is not my place to brag about my past accomplishments or what i have done for the game. i honestly try to keep the past out of this and just look at what is best for the game.

[Lord Burch]

if cussing to you is impactful then welcome to puberty...

modern day warfare? what pointless wars are there? even the iraq war has a reason maybe not a good one but there was reason enough for everyone to agree to it at the time.

while you are in there tell dogma to teach you the reasoning of the game as well. hopefully you can learn something from dogma and be half the player he is....

i am not really scared of anyone in this game so if you really want a legit war then make a strong nation and lets go. and then drop it. carrying a grudge, especially one b/c you insulted me in the forums, is not really productive for the game

You avoided the question, as I suspected. I knew it, you too know deep down your *****ing and complaining and whining doesn't have one ounce of constructive use towards the game.

This so called 'reasoning' you're talking about is a mere front to give a facade to the people. It is all appearances and appeal one way or the other, when in actuality, they run the show, so they do what they **** feel like doing. Bush jr. was a fine example. (Talking about modern day warfare reasoning.)

Besides, I'm leaving this **** game anyways because Mr. P finally decides to monopolize this game for you ***** *** whiners and complainers about suiciding. Have some fun.

You K*ke *** mother ****ers enjoy your stupid game.

[Calvin74]

You avoided the question, as I suspected. I knew it, you too know deep down your *****ing and complaining and whining doesn't have one ounce of constructive use towards the game.

This so called 'reasoning' you're talking about is a mere front to give a facade to the people. It is all appearances and appeal one way or the other, when in actuality, they run the show, so they do what they **** feel like doing. Bush jr. was a fine example. (Talking about modern day warfare reasoning.)

Besides, I'm leaving this **** game anyways because Mr. P finally decides to monopolize this game for you ***** *** whiners and complainers about suiciding. Have some fun.

You K*ke *** mother ****ers enjoy your stupid game.


once again it isn't my place to brag about what i do
you really want to know go ask mr p or BB or anyone that has played for years and knows me.

[pron]

then you should
there is just no way for this to be a justified war.....
he never got hit by CTU
he never was in or associated with lor even during the actual war
lor is as peace with CTU

this is clearly a suicide
he has no reason to hit them....

The problem with your logic is that you ignore Cem's reason for the war. You're only looking at the facts as you see them and coming up with your own analysis, calling it a suicide. I look at Cem's reason, and I think--that's a good enough reason. Cem's pro-LOR, he didn't have time to get in the war, so he wanted to make those that warred LOR suffer. Just because he wasn't in the tag at the time of the war's beginning doesn't mean he wouldn't have jumped over :)
He even gave them time to prepare as he declared war on them and waited a few hours.

Not a suicide from my viewpoint, just a little vengeance from a previous war. Very different than "I just like to screw with people who are in the top 3". And chances are Cem's not gunning to do this set after set, unless he's in a war with them.

[Devil]

You avoided the question, as I suspected. I knew it, you too know deep down your *****ing and complaining and whining doesn't have one ounce of constructive use towards the game.

This so called 'reasoning' you're talking about is a mere front to give a facade to the people. It is all appearances and appeal one way or the other, when in actuality, they run the show, so they do what they **** feel like doing. Bush jr. was a fine example. (Talking about modern day warfare reasoning.)

Besides, I'm leaving this **** game anyways because Mr. P finally decides to monopolize this game for you ***** *** whiners and complainers about suiciding. Have some fun.

You K*ke *** mother ****ers enjoy your stupid game.

language... everyday we have to tell you.

and bye!

[Calvin74]

The problem with your logic is that you ignore Cem's reason for the war. You're only looking at the facts as you see them and coming up with your own analysis, calling it a suicide. I look at Cem's reason, and I think--that's a good enough reason. Cem's pro-LOR, he didn't have time to get in the war, so he wanted to make those that warred LOR suffer. Just because he wasn't in the tag at the time of the war's beginning doesn't mean he wouldn't have jumped over :)
He even gave them time to prepare as he declared war on them and waited a few hours.

Not a suicide from my viewpoint, just a little vengeance from a previous war. Very different than "I just like to screw with people who are in the top 3". And chances are Cem's not gunning to do this set after set, unless he's in a war with them.


i will give you that and if cem said he was done then i think this would be dropped. however i don't agree with what he did since he had plenty of time to actually jump in on the war if he had wanted to.
what is his reason for not jumping into lor during the war?

[ooga booga]

i will give you that and if cem said he was done then i think this would be dropped. however i don't agree with what he did since he had plenty of time to actually jump in on the war if he had wanted to.
what is his reason for not jumping into lor during the war?

Because you killed lor too quickly. ;) If you kill them slowly like we did last set, than they'll bring in their outside people who hide to help them. :P We were killing 1-2 states a day (usually just 1). You killed about 10 states in 1-2 days. Cem was still a baby then and it wouldn't have mattered.

For the record though all the suicides are lame. People need to grow up. Lord Burch too. I thought it was cool to swear every other word too... when I was 13!!!! :laugh: lol

[Calvin74]

Because you killed lor too quickly. ;) If you kill them slowly like we did last set, than they'll bring in their outside people who hide to help them. :P We were killing 1-2 states a day (usually just 1). You killed about 10 states in 1-2 days. Cem was still a baby then and it wouldn't have mattered.

For the record though all the suicides are lame. People need to grow up. Lord Burch too. I thought it was cool to swear every other word too... when I was 13!!!! :laugh: lol

just so everyone knows i didn't hit lor this set. i am not in abt or ctu!

[Cemetary]

Because you killed lor too quickly. l

whats sad is that's the exact reasoning

i can show you my logs with ali and the few i sent to devil forgetting he was in ABT this set

and if you look at previous sets i always one man stock all set then join lor in war to be a late breaker

the problem was, lor got gang raped by two nations and they died within like 2 days

but i do like how people focus on how suiciding ruins the game, but gangbanging doesnt

i piss off 3 people in one set by suiciding them after they gangbang warred lor

CTU and ABT piss off.. 15? lor players by first striking and gang banging them BEFORE lor actually did any war attacks..

but youre right, im the ******* bc i decided to get revenge on those bastards in CTU

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Im also sorry that with 10 days left in the set, i was able to break those CTU states with like 5m ships or less, i should've jumped in with lor and died first, then made a restart.. it would have came out the same way, me hitting them and being able to break them with a restart state

[ooga booga]

just so everyone knows i didn't hit lor this set. i am not in abt or ctu!

Yes my apologies, you didn't kill them at all. Let me rephrase that too CTU and ABT killed them too quickly! :P

[Cemetary]

Hitting ABT[HABT] has began building forces along the borders of an enemy nation

wanted to add that in, just so you know my intent before i hit you

[Calvin74]

whats sad is that's the exact reasoning

i can show you my logs with ali and the few i sent to devil forgetting he was in ABT this set

and if you look at previous sets i always one man stock all set then join lor in war to be a late breaker

the problem was, lor got gang raped by two nations and they died within like 2 days

but i do like how people focus on how suiciding ruins the game, but gangbanging doesnt

i piss off 3 people in one set by suiciding them after they gangbang warred lor

CTU and ABT piss off.. 15? lor players by first striking and gang banging them BEFORE lor actually did any war attacks..

but youre right, im the ******* bc i decided to get revenge on those bastards in CTU

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Im also sorry that with 10 days left in the set, i was able to break those CTU states with like 5m ships or less, i should've jumped in with lor and died first, then made a restart.. it would have came out the same way, me hitting them and being able to break them with a restart state



i said that ctu/abt were right in hitting lor since lor used "friends" to suicide on them and everyone knew it. ctu was just defending themselves and they got abt to help since lor outnumbered them pretty badly. no one knew lor would just roll over and die so easily.

besides isn't that the textbook lor move? outnumber you opponent and overwhelm them with numbers:P

i don't have a problem with playing outside the tag and joining up, don't really like it since it is kinda cheap shows that you don't think you can win straight up, but it is within the rules and doesn't over negatively affect the outcome. however i still think you lose that right to say you are continuing the war once the nations at war have dec'ed peace and are no longer at war. if you are going to be an extension of lor then you should be held by lor peace agreements right? if not then you are not a part of lor but also can't claim that you are hitting these countries b/c of the war with lor?

you can't have it both ways


however i will say you are at least doing it much much better than Z did and so i have to applaud you for that. hopefully you won't carry this into future sets...

[Calvin74]

Hitting ABT[HABT] has began building forces along the borders of an enemy nation

wanted to add that in, just so you know my intent before i hit you

also just for future references since you admit to stocking low and jumping into lor late in the set when the other side is already worn down should you just be considered a part of lor so anytime someone hits lor should they go ahead and hit you? or would you hold a grudge the next set if that was the case?

[Cemetary]

also just for future references since you admit to stocking low and jumping into lor late in the set when the other side is already worn down should you just be considered a part of lor so anytime someone hits lor should they go ahead and hit you? or would you hold a grudge the next set if that was the case?

if they want they can, ive done it like 10 sets so far now so they should expect it

i stock outside nation bc i can get a bigger stock faster, actually, im doing it based on how YOU taught me to stock using a 1 man nation... so take some of the blame :p

but no, this isnt taken into future sets, unless someone wars lor again next set then i will hit them but otherwise i dont have a grudge with any1

and me playing outside of nation is just smart play, why owuld i risk getting killed first in the CS or FS when i can come in late and break everyone"?? lol

[pron]

i said that ctu/abt were right in hitting lor since lor used "friends" to suicide on them and everyone knew it. ctu was just defending themselves and they got abt to help since lor outnumbered them pretty badly. no one knew lor would just roll over and die so easily.

Then CTU should have gone for the suicider. There wasn't any talk of a retal--so this point is moot. CTU and ABT just didn't want to get FS'ed, and they decided to hit first. Don't hide behind a reason like "one of your friends outside of the nation suicided us, so we're gonna kill the nation".


i don't have a problem with playing outside the tag and joining up, don't really like it since it is kinda cheap shows that you don't think you can win straight up, but it is within the rules and doesn't over negatively affect the outcome. however i still think you lose that right to say you are continuing the war once the nations at war have dec'ed peace and are no longer at war. if you are going to be an extension of lor then you should be held by lor peace agreements right? if not then you are not a part of lor but also can't claim that you are hitting these countries b/c of the war with lor?

The only peace agreement was that LOR would not declare war on CTU or ABT. Cem's nation wasn't LOR. He may have been fighting on behalf of LOR, or may have jumped in later, but wasn't in LOR when he struck. That's like saying ABT is part of CTU cause they hit together.



what is his reason for not jumping into lor during the war?

We didn't call in any of our stockers because we lost 10+ in the FS, and only had 5 states in our nation. Also, the outside people weren't war ready so it would have been a day or two--hence why peace was declared as the war was over lol.

[Max Logan]

Cem reason was justified?

He declare with the intent to suicide, he never expected to kill anyone, as you see, he didn`t even try. He just wanted to hit them to find glory in suicide. And he didn`t, just no one really appreciates it.

P.S. Burch, you should really take a chill pill

[Cemetary]

P.S. Burch, you should really take a chill pill

yea this i can agree with

its a game burch, calm the hell down

[boostah]

Cem reason was justified?

He declare with the intent to suicide, he never expected to kill anyone, as you see, he didn`t even try. He just wanted to hit them to find glory in suicide. And he didn`t, just no one really appreciates it.

P.S. Burch, you should really take a chill pill

If its revenge of hitting lor, why doesn't he need to kill? Killing one state does less damage then hitting all their top states.

If he just wanted to hurt the people in the lor war, then his choice was the best one, CTU is much more hurt then if he would have killed one state.

[BeeNo]

sorry cem, no good grabs and was about to go over in turns :(

[Cemetary]

yea i miscalced my turns so i hit 200 when i sold lol

its all good tho, i might jump in with G and help hit ctu now since i missed the first round

[Mhaphew]

wow, i take a break for a set and that whiny ***** quits.

And you all were blaming me, and telling me to stop harassing him..

ps, I love all, but now i have no "big name" players to kill randomly throughout the rest of NW existence