Had it coming!

[Max Logan]

As I said in the thread of why NW is failing - feeding is one of them.
You own`t win by feeding. not this set at least. If you can`t play it fair, I won`t let you rob Grim of the victory he deserves.
He went without being attacked since the start and all you did was get cheap infantry from 250, who used his stock to buy BM inf{ dunno if there was someone else, I just know he was for fact) and then sold it at minimum price on the PM cuz there was no inf at all. Ok, if he`d sell at 294, ok, slight feeding would be ok, but not this much!

You had it coming....

[kitoy]

ok max.. i knew you or grim would whine if i jump and grab..

first.. i wasn't fed by nhn.. i've been sitting in PM for inf.. when nhn jumped and sold his inf, someone or many got it but not me.. if i was the one who bought it all, i should have been at top earlier and grab you and grim but i didn't, i stayed low and cash my turns..

hours before i jumped, i'm sure you and grim noticed that nhn was already at 500k in networth, mine was 3M net.. when i reached around 8-10M net, his net was still 500k and after i jumped and grab, his net was still the same.. bottom line is, no state with that networth has tons of inf on PM.. im sure you know that..

as for me jumping, i was sitting on PM waiting for inf and only bought 2-4M per batch until i decided that it was time to jump..then i BMed and i also BMed our NA..

i'm not stupid enough to do this stuff when even devil is in the nation..

[kitoy]

you sure grim already secured the top spot?

if it wasn't me, blaa(#70) would have done it instead, sooner or later i think..

[Max Logan]

I hear ya...

P.S. 70 would never had done it

[kitoy]

i think #70 is just waiting for the tax to be dropped, coz 30% is a pain in the *** to cash..

as for me, i thought you guys already got my intel and knew that i could out jump you any minute..

[Xavior]

I agree with Kenneth that top spot was not held down. The strongest state isn't the one who gets oop early and goes unhit. I don't think this is something you understand Max, as I see you do this all the time. Time and time again it is the stocker that wins the set and it is a proven formula that works, in my opinion.

Also, with my recent experience with LoR, excuse me if I am extremely skeptical Kenneth was fed. I think it's just a case of people not wanting to believe that very few can compete with LoR right now. You're just sick of seeing the same few people at the top each month am I right? :o

[Max Logan]

Nope. I saw Kris up there for a year

[kitoy]

i know how fair you guys are esp LG.. hell, i've been in GRIM for many sets, i even brought my gang there.. we were there during the PAIN war when almost all of their members went to vacation :mad: hey grim, you still remember who made your sig?:p

anyway, you guys should also saw it coming(even without feeding, but not implying feeding happened)..

[::LD::GrimReapr]

If I remember correctly Kenneth made my sig for me. I keep seeing posts about doing something about something when i see something happen or when hoarding takes place instead of doing that something I opted to do that and then was robbed of the chance from someone being feed this will be the first and last post on this subject for me this will be all i have to say.

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[BladeEWG]

This is pretty bullsh@t but its not the cause of the game membership dropping
It seems to be the "good ole boy" network that keeps up with the circle jerk every round.

And thats fine, if you want to keep playing your petty arse games each round, thats fine.
leave the rest of us the hell out of it.

What you call feeding, we used to call reselling,
Its part of the frigging game and what teams can do if they're organized.

You got spanked and thats a shame for you, but suck it up and play the game.

Maybe Mr.P can make a seperate game and call it the petty round, then a lot of you caN JUST GO THERE AND LEAVE THIS GAME FOR THE NEW PEOPLE AND THOSE THAT ACTUALLY LIKE PLAYING BY THE RULES.

OPPS,sorry for tha caps lock but its not worth my time to go back and retype it nice and neat.
yoiu get my drift I'm sure.:cursing:

[blaa]

I was the one who bought nhn's inf. I bought it to nation.

I messed up my set when I cashed 150 turns with 1500 free land and red turned. And I havent bought anything from PM this set :D. So yeah, I wouldn't have done yet. 30% tax wouldn't have helped either.

Max, remember my recommendation in the other thread?

[kanman]

Kenneth has won rounds and has a ton of top 3 finishes and you aa'd him for feeding with no evidence other than he outnetted you?

Then other dead states aa'd him for infantry hording? Are you guys going to define how much protection at what point in the round is infantry hording or are netters going to have to preemptively strike you now to feel safe?

[Max Logan]

I was the one who bought nhn's inf. I bought it to nation.

I messed up my set when I cashed 150 turns with 1500 free land and red turned. And I havent bought anything from PM this set :D. So yeah, I wouldn't have done yet. 30% tax wouldn't have helped either.

Max, remember my recommendation in the other thread?

Can`t say I do



Kenneth has won rounds and has a ton of top 3 finishes and you aa'd him for feeding with no evidence other than he outnetted you?

Then other dead states aa'd him for infantry hording? Are you guys going to define how much protection at what point in the round is infantry hording or are netters going to have to preemptively strike you now to feel safe?

No idea what you`re talking about



This is pretty bullsh@t but its not the cause of the game membership dropping
It seems to be the "good ole boy" network that keeps up with the circle jerk every round.

And thats fine, if you want to keep playing your petty arse games each round, thats fine.
leave the rest of us the hell out of it.

What you call feeding, we used to call reselling,
Its part of the frigging game and what teams can do if they're organized.

You got spanked and thats a shame for you, but suck it up and play the game.

Maybe Mr.P can make a seperate game and call it the petty round, then a lot of you caN JUST GO THERE AND LEAVE THIS GAME FOR THE NEW PEOPLE AND THOSE THAT ACTUALLY LIKE PLAYING BY THE RULES.

OPPS,sorry for tha caps lock but its not worth my time to go back and retype it nice and neat.
yoiu get my drift I'm sure.:cursing:

Reselling aka feeding is playing by the rules
AAing aka using attacks is playing by the rules

Matter settled by Blade, a neutral party. Moving on!

[Top12Gun]

As I said in the thread of why NW is failing - feeding is one of them.
You own`t win by feeding. not this set at least. If you can`t play it fair, I won`t let you rob Grim of the victory he deserves.
He went without being attacked since the start and all you did was get cheap infantry from 250, who used his stock to buy BM inf{ dunno if there was someone else, I just know he was for fact) and then sold it at minimum price on the PM cuz there was no inf at all. Ok, if he`d sell at 294, ok, slight feeding would be ok, but not this much!

You had it coming....

This is a bunch of crap!! You had no evidence of feeding, other than the fact that he had a higher networth than you, and yet you still AA'd him?? You've attacked on a faulty premise, and you have no defense. Congrats. I pray this means war, Max, 'cause you just messed up ::LD::Grimreapr's set more than Kenneth ever could have.

[BladeEWG]

Yes ..AAs are part of the game ..in war.
I didn't see a declaration, so maybe it was a suicider?
You can try to twist my words all you wish, I am certainly not defending the actions of your tag.

[Max Logan]

Yes ..AAs are part of the game ..in war.
I didn't see a declaration, so maybe it was a suicider?
You can try to twist my words all you wish, I am certainly not defending the actions of your tag.

So now one rule is more legit then another? And your truth is more righteous? How convenient!

[Dogma]

just an observation on my part. That was pretty lame Grim.

[kitoy]

I was the one who bought nhn's inf. I bought it to nation.


there you go max.. the inf i patiently waited in PM is from you DEAD states i guess.. nhn didn't even jumped the second time and resell, after his jump he stayed low and just cash turns..

sigh.... just an advice if you want to play at top, keep an intel on others states that might be a threat to you or can out jump you any minute.. and if they do, don't just accused them of feeding..

btw grim, it wasn't me who made your sig, it was dakouten..

[Divine Intervention]

I agree with Kenneth that top spot was not held down. The strongest state isn't the one who gets oop early and goes unhit. I don't think this is something you understand Max, as I see you do this all the time. Time and time again it is the stocker that wins the set and it is a proven formula that works, in my opinion.


Even though I prefer Grim & co to Kenneth & co (warred both sides many times :p old stuff moving on, once in retirement everyone's ok), I have to admit Xavior is right here. Although I haven't watched the set (despite making a state at first when muthkilla messaged me on msn) I can guess that LD probably went to top after having loads of average grabs and sitting on low turns whilst Kenneth made much better grabs and sat on much higher turn count and played themat a lower tax level. It's a simple, obvious and best strategy and one which Dolly, James (and prob a few other vets) all utilized. Wont comment on infantry / market feeding etc, but played correctly, even 294 infantry isn't an issue to someone jumping. And Kris is awesome grabber, he probably got top top1 and stayed there by continuing to do very good grabs rather than getting desperate and playing all his turns doing sub standard grabs (which is what usually top1 early breakaways are guilty off).

[Max Logan]

there you go max.. the inf i patiently waited in PM is from you DEAD states i guess.. nhn didn't even jumped the second time and resell, after his jump he stayed low and just cash turns..

sigh.... just an advice if you want to play at top, keep an intel on others states that might be a threat to you or can out jump you any minute.. and if they do, don't just accused them of feeding..

btw grim, it wasn't me who made your sig, it was dakouten..

Xavs and DevilDogs infantry. Mostly Xavs.

And I knew you`d outjump Grim. He was new to the top, it wasn`t hard to figure out he won`t pull away, esp with so little targets to grab. And casher being what it is right now...
The whole point of me coming back this set was to cause some stir. Never intended to really go for top, just wait till someone jumped me and cause a war or two. Heh, turned out better as Grim was 1st. nhn was just an excuse to get Grim to be on par with me - easy knowing how short tempered he gets, esp with all the infantry hoarding and LoR bias. Then it was just waiting until you jumped. I hoped it would be blaa, but oh well, once you jumped I just went with the flow. At least the forums are more active then the last few months...pffft, what it takes to get some activity.

[Max Logan]

Even though I prefer Grim & co to Kenneth & co (warred both sides many times :p old stuff moving on, once in retirement everyone's ok), I have to admit Xavior is right here. Although I haven't watched the set (despite making a state at first when muthkilla messaged me on msn) I can guess that LD probably went to top after having loads of average grabs and sitting on low turns whilst Kenneth made much better grabs and sat on much higher turn count and played themat a lower tax level. It's a simple, obvious and best strategy and one which Dolly, James (and prob a few other vets) all utilized. Wont comment on infantry / market feeding etc, but played correctly, even 294 infantry isn't an issue to someone jumping. And Kris is awesome grabber, he probably got top top1 and stayed there by continuing to do very good grabs rather than getting desperate and playing all his turns doing sub standard grabs (which is what usually top1 early breakaways are guilty off).

You forgot to mention - time :p

[kitoy]

if you want war, you can just declare right away, i'm fine with it.. but accusing me of feeding, is another story (wish i could go on rage like ali).. ahh yeah, the LoR bias thing.. no surprise on that, i always expect it every set..



Even though I prefer Grim & co to Kenneth & co
you don't really love me, don't you? :(

[Divine Intervention]

you don't really love me, don't you? :(

double negative :p?

nah im fine with both of you guys. even though you were often my enemy you are a cool & okay guy Kenneth ;-) although i def wont ever warm to runbch or maybe ali :p

[Max Logan]

if you want war, you can just declare right away, i'm fine with it.. but accusing me of feeding, is another story (wish i could go on rage like ali).. ahh yeah, the LoR bias thing.. no surprise on that, i always expect it every set..

Sorry

[Xavior]

So whats taking you guys so long to kill Max?? :o

[kitoy]

So whats taking you guys so long to kill Max?? :o

we will kill you first..

[::LD::GrimReapr]

we will kill you first..

Cant kill Xav first it was Max's Idea and I need Xav to take care of Taxes.

[totte]

not that i'm playing this round so i got no idea about what has happened or who did what :P

but imo from what i've seen you say they did that and so on, thats agains the rules and so on right.

what you need to do is create your own retal policys :)

you older buggers remember euro for example euro always retals :)

[kitoy]

sorry for asking this, but when exactly EURO started? like what year and month.. :p

i can't remember a nation named EURO during my WOW days, but i took a break for years due to college.. maybe it happened during that time.. :p

[Devil]

sorry for asking this, but when exactly EURO started? like what year and month.. :p

i can't remember a nation named EURO during my WOW days, but i took a break for years due to college.. maybe it happened during that time.. :p

Euro was around before your time kenneth. This was back in 02-03 and every once in a while for a set or two. Will and Scavenger were he leaders i think. Basically they were a war tag who made an impossible retal policy that a way they could "justify" wars. Or they would just hit someone. Fun tag... we need more around like them

[totte]

aye :)
tso was rather fun aswell :)

the point being stop just following just the basic unwritten rules make your own retal policys and so on and you'll spice up the game abit :)