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MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 13:34
LIke we knew this was not going to happen...

Like Blaa wasnt behind the suicides earlier in the set....?

Lets see how this plays out for Blaa and his nation/s

I will say this, not a good set to be a casher and war

blaa
08-07-2012, 13:45
i wasnt behind the suicides earlier this set

heyneken
08-07-2012, 13:57
i wasnt behind the suicides earlier this set

blaa says:
i suicided those guys

all lies

MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 14:04
i wasnt behind the suicides earlier this set Your right it was the USA! (sarcasm)

MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 14:39
OMG LOL 5 on the FS! it will be hard to come back from that.

ukurasmus
08-07-2012, 14:44
Maggio,

http://blog.thesage.com/wp-content/uploads/uncle-sam-we-want-you1.jpg

heyneken
08-07-2012, 14:48
would've taken 3-4 more, but our national hero is gonna throw some plate-looking shit in london, gotta watch that bro

ukurasmus
08-07-2012, 15:23
discus throw ;)

DevilDog
08-07-2012, 15:40
i wasnt behind the suicides earlier this set

Yes you were and we ALL know it. :P

(pinky probably helped)


By the way good first strike but like Maggio said let us see how it holds up for ya!

heyneken
08-07-2012, 16:12
Yes you were and we ALL know it. :P

(pinky probably helped)


By the way good first strike but like Maggio said let us see how it holds up for ya!

Not really sure who got killed when and how, but why would we suicide anonymously if we can just kill you publicly? Learn2logic

MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 16:54
Not really sure who got killed when and how, but why would we suicide anonymously if we can just kill you publicly? Learn2logic

you can say that NOW that ELEET had a good FS lol, the way I see it, two groups are shtty toward DEAD... 1. USA, or 2. INC/Blaa/eleet and I think we ALL know that USA wouldnt bother going through the bs and dishonorable tactic of weakening DEAD states before a FS. Guilty by Default imo, and guilty by reputation considering blaa's recent actions. that suicider rep takes a LONG time to go away, and ifyou associate yourself with Blaa your pretty much just as big of a POS as he is (becuase of his suiciding)

::LD::GrimReapr
08-07-2012, 17:13
I concur Maggio. I find it highly unlikely that it wasn't hiney or Blaa doing the suiciding to DEAD states earlier in the set to get what they wanted in the FS.

Dogma
08-07-2012, 17:28
you can say that NOW that ELEET had a good FS lol, the way I see it, two groups are shtty toward DEAD... 1. USA, or 2. INC/Blaa/eleet and I think we ALL know that USA wouldnt bother going through the bs and dishonorable tactic of weakening DEAD states before a FS. Guilty by Default imo, and guilty by reputation considering blaa's recent actions. that suicider rep takes a LONG time to go away, and ifyou associate yourself with Blaa your pretty much just as big of a POS as he is (becuase of his suiciding)

Funny, I haven't seen any "shitty" from USA about DEAD.

MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 17:48
i know it hasnt come up this set, but after last set I wouldnt be shocked if USA gave Dead a fight later in the set. matter fact not to put words in he USA mouth, but I bet they are a little pissed about eleete getting it in on DEAD since they "may" have wanted a little payback.

Mr President
08-07-2012, 19:54
I started to reply to your message when i got distracted from your no shirt pic.. Dude we have a "no shoes, no shirt... No service policy in Nation Wars.. Put a shirt on :)

Mr President
08-07-2012, 20:02
We could be guilty of the suicides. USA has several tricks that it has used in the past. Normally we have the muscle (active states) each set but the past few sets we have lacked.. So we might have taken another path. Just cause we are old and play board games during free time at the home doesn't mean we still can't be sneaky. :)

I would totally check Dogma's intels. I heard him bragging while in the shitter about doing some spy ops and those greasy bastards will never catch him. We all thought it is his memory issues flaring up but maybe the old goat was telling the truth...

bigstink
08-07-2012, 20:54
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NW has a no shirt policy now???? Guess this is my last set then :blink: Screw it! Buy my food! $70 all set long!

Mr President
08-07-2012, 20:57
This policy is for men only. Women are encouraged to enter shirtless.. :) And thanks for the $70 food..

bigstink
08-07-2012, 21:02
anytime! next set I will be selling infantry at rock bottom prices all set long. 100% production and sell, sell, sell!

Dogma
08-07-2012, 21:21
I am just glad there is not a "no pants' policy for playing...

MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 21:23
anytime! next set I will be selling infantry at rock bottom prices all set long. 100% production and sell, sell, sell!

Hoarding + Undercutting = 1337

bigstink
08-07-2012, 21:26
what can I say.... I just want to see how the other half lives IUH:::

almanbulls
08-07-2012, 23:10
ummmmm..... Beatdown going on.

MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 23:16
ummmmm..... Beatdown going on.

why is your name all-man-balls?

Hoebawt
08-07-2012, 23:36
Fall back maggio... he attended Baseball camp...

MAGGIO
08-07-2012, 23:55
Fall back maggio... he attended Baseball camp...

i thought it was basketball? I was just making a joke in general. glad "balls" is making some posts regardless of base or basket.

eleet is being pretty quiet over there, I guess they dont want to "play forum wars"?

I guess its kinda hard to talk with allmanballs in your mouth

blaa
08-08-2012, 00:08
we don't want to play the forum wars

MAGGIO
08-08-2012, 00:12
we don't want to play the forum wars

...just another part of the game you typically loose at?

im just a visitor to DEAD (lets be honest I joined because there was a good chance I might get to kill you) but I dont think I am too far off base to say that you pretty much have marked your fate for several sets. Any state that interacts with you (a known suicider) has a very high percentage chance of being killed by DEAD or an ally of DEAD. I guess you couldnt let it go and had to get another jab in.

blaa
08-08-2012, 00:13
lose*
faith*
percentage chance? wuuut

MAGGIO
08-08-2012, 00:18
lose*
faith*
percentage chance? wuuut

I no u cn read batwen tha lnes

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MellonColly
08-08-2012, 00:18
actually its supposed to be fate there. :P

blaa
08-08-2012, 00:58
yeah, my bad, early morning.

Max Logan
08-08-2012, 12:54
This policy is for men only. Women are encouraged to enter shirtless.. :) And thanks for the $70 food..

This is so going in your Facebook for Mrs P to see :o

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 14:51
Hey Maggot, Congrats on getting Killed. I am sure you try really hard.

ukurasmus
08-08-2012, 14:57
Hey Maggot, Congrats on getting Killed. I am sure you try really hard.

Maggio's DEAD already ;)

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 15:00
Maggio's DEAD already ;)
I know. I said Maggot, congrats on getting killed

ukurasmus
08-08-2012, 15:04
Well, the only Maggio I know, is DEAD already, so what are you about?

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 15:04
hey maggot and hoe, at least I have balls. You dont have any.

ukurasmus
08-08-2012, 15:11
Say what? Maggio and Hoebawt don't have balls? Now, now there, back off a bit - you're not making friends like that ;)

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 15:11
Well, the only Maggio I know, is DEAD already, so what are you about?
I SAID CONGRATS ON GETTING KILLED TO MAGGOT! READ IT AND WEEP!

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 15:12
Say what? Maggio and Hoebawt don't have balls? Now, now there, back off a bit - you're not making friends like that ;)
have you read their comments towards me? I am just stating facts about them.

ukurasmus
08-08-2012, 15:16
Oh, yes, confusing name differences. Now be polite and don't call people names ;)

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 15:18
Oh, yes, confusing name differences. Now be polite and don't call people names ;)
they call me names, I call them names. I dont give a carecake if they like it or not, lol.

ukurasmus
08-08-2012, 15:22
That's the spirit! Wanna join eleet? :D

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 15:29
That's the spirit! Wanna join eleet? :D
is that so you know what state I am? Because I would LOVE to kill those kidz.

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 15:41
I want my signature!
Edit: Got it

Cemetary
08-08-2012, 15:47
Was i killed as collateral damage in this war? Or just a random person decided to kill an expand n build stocker state?

I dont like that it doesnt show you who killed you if they use spies. Lame

blaa
08-08-2012, 15:48
RE:

What is a cem?

Scientology

didnt know it was you, sorry brother

Cemetary
08-08-2012, 15:54
Apparently my response never went through blaa.

It said "lol. Yea just let me know when you need me and ill jump over."

Oh well. Time to restart

Max Logan
08-08-2012, 16:50
Hey Maggot, Congrats on getting Killed. I am sure you try really hard.

were all the cupcakes sold out today? or you angry at dinner? gang banging on bacon? surely you`re gutsy for a hiding state!

Divine Intervention
08-08-2012, 17:08
Was i killed as collateral damage in this war? Or just a random person decided to kill an expand n build stocker state?

I dont like that it doesnt show you who killed you if they use spies. Lame

Im pretty sure you can tell who killed you, even if it was with spies??? Or has it been changed? Besides...you can always just have a look see which nation has the +1 kill + NW killed.

almanbulls
08-08-2012, 17:12
were all the cupcakes sold out today? or you angry at dinner? gang banging on bacon? surely you`re gutsy for a hiding state!
they told me too. But heres my state: Tunisia. Hiding? I dont think so?

Cemetary
08-08-2012, 19:14
Im pretty sure you can tell who killed you, even if it was with spies??? Or has it been changed? Besides...you can always just have a look see which nation has the +1 kill + NW killed.

Yea. I had to go into news archive to get it. Which i also had to search for since it is under the support tab now? The Recycle Bin guy got the kill.

The nation kills info wasnt updated when i looked so it didnt show who got the kill

pcgluva
08-09-2012, 01:59
This policy is for men only. Women are encouraged to enter shirtless.. :) And thanks for the $70 food..

im telling the first lady!

heyneken
08-09-2012, 06:31
Yea. I had to go into news archive to get it. Which i also had to search for since it is under the support tab now? The Recycle Bin guy got the kill.

The nation kills info wasnt updated when i looked so it didnt show who got the kill

that's weird, i thought i killed you...oh well, guess margus had the last attack.

blaa
08-09-2012, 10:15
no, i killed him

Cemetary
08-09-2012, 11:11
Mil i t ar y Ad v is or 21:19:12 - Wednesday 8th of August 2012 You were killed byBin(#261) 805 of your population have been slaughtered by unknown terrorists.



It is funny seeing like 200+ ops going through at the same second

blaa
08-09-2012, 14:09
whats funny about that? is it not real? is it not logical? I dont see anything funny there, in fact, I dont see anything amusing in death.

Max Logan
08-09-2012, 17:02
Mil i t ar y Ad v is or 21:19:12 - Wednesday 8th of August 2012 You were killed byBin(#261) 805 of your population have been slaughtered by unknown terrorists.



It is funny seeing like 200+ ops going through at the same second

should`ve gotten more spies, so that they lose readiness in each hit. you can do a 1000 attacks in the same second if you want

Divine Intervention
08-09-2012, 17:30
should`ve gotten more spies, so that they lose readiness in each hit. you can do a 1000 attacks in the same second if you want

would require some epic timing to get 3 states to simultaneously do attacks at same precise second....but no issue doing 360 attacks im sure (full turns + onhand bonus).

Hoebawt
08-09-2012, 21:09
they call me names, I call them names. I dont give a carecake if they like it or not, lol.

What telling you to buzz off coz i wouldnt join USA to War Dead is calling you names? Your the one that seems to have being bothered some way that you keep posting things about me.. and most important of all my testicles.... Kid your delusional.. Not even worth the time it took to post this msg...

ukurasmus
08-13-2012, 16:34
Guess what! It's time for after-party, finally!

MAGGIO
08-14-2012, 00:13
should we pick this up right here or go over to the "round 2" thread?

I dont know, but Dead got wiped out 100% after the first week, and we were like 10th or so place, and eleet was 2nd earlier to day, and now we are second and eleet is 6th... weird?

not sure why eleet even let off the gas on the first war. the hatred of blaa and dead is deep to were anyone would have to know that all restarts must die all set. this has been going on almsot all year now.

zazibuzi
08-14-2012, 00:23
Without the tag jumpers you would have been nothing...

DevilDog
08-14-2012, 00:34
And without suiciding Dead before you declared things would have been different.

Benjidatramp
08-14-2012, 00:35
Oh the tears.... They are.....delicious. GJ Dead :)

::LD::GrimReapr
08-14-2012, 02:11
Without the tag jumpers you would have been nothing...

Without suiciding multis Eleet would be nothing so I guess we are even?

blaa
08-14-2012, 02:18
Multies... that is a serious accusations, can you prove anything, please.

heyneken
08-14-2012, 05:55
Since Mr P is apparently not going to say anything to protect us from this slander, then I think I'll just as well start creating multies.

Divine Intervention
08-14-2012, 06:18
Since Mr P is apparently not going to say anything to protect us from this slander, then I think I'll just as well start creating multies.

You suck ****.

*begs Mr P not to protect Heyne from THIS slander*


Multies... that is a serious accusations, can you prove anything, please.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence".

heyneken
08-14-2012, 06:21
You suck ****.

*begs Mr P not to protect Heyne from THIS slander*

Oh seriously grow a pair. And that goes to everybody from bratva and ws who were cowards enough to join dead after we declared peace with them. Guess we won't make that mistake of trusting retards like them anymore.

Achilles
08-14-2012, 06:23
Thats the only way you can win a war heyney, by making multies

Divine Intervention
08-14-2012, 06:24
Oh seriously grow a pair. And that goes to everybody from bratva and ws who were cowards enough to join dead after we declared peace with them. Guess we won't make that mistake of trusting retards like them anymore.

cowards? well could declare from Bratva but then I wouldnt want innocent players like Salabanzi getting hurt. It is his first set with me ever and he had nothing to do with the wars. Many others are not participating either, why endanger them?

btw my sucking **** post is more a mocking of your childish attitude. You have no idea how much you reminded me of my five year old cousin with that "waahaa..wahaa...you saying X so im gonna do X to spite you"

Achilles
08-14-2012, 06:26
You suck ****.

*begs Mr P not to protect Heyne from THIS slander*



"Absence of proof is not proof of absence".

So true

Max Logan
08-14-2012, 06:27
Oh seriously grow a pair. And that goes to everybody from bratva and ws who were cowards enough to join dead after we declared peace with them. Guess we won't make that mistake of trusting retards like them anymore.

grow a pair, suicider. it`s you who should be looking for one, suicider. it`s not like you`re any good at warring, suicider.

heyneken
08-14-2012, 06:35
So true

Innocent until proven guilty?

And like I said, we wouldn't have attacked non-antongaybuddies. You're just trying to make it seem like it wasn't 3 nations against 1. But I mean, I don't mind that much, because it's a war game and it was fun til it lasted :) I'm just a bit dissapointed cause we had such big plans.

blaa
08-14-2012, 07:23
was gonna take down lube tonight and make tita win the set

Divine Intervention
08-14-2012, 07:39
Innocent until proven guilty?

And like I said, we wouldn't have attacked non-antongaybuddies. You're just trying to make it seem like it wasn't 3 nations against 1. But I mean, I don't mind that much, because it's a war game and it was fun til it lasted :) I'm just a bit dissapointed cause we had such big plans.

seems like we stopped you in time then.

so what was the reason then? keeps changing....first its accusations of slander...then its homophobic gay buddy reasons lol. what next eh.

MellonColly
08-14-2012, 07:47
was gonna take down lube tonight and make tita win the set

hey thats not nice

ukurasmus
08-14-2012, 07:48
@Anton: To be frank, it's all of those :D

blaa
08-14-2012, 08:12
i didnt choose the suicider life, the suicider life chose me

suicide4life

zazibuzi
08-14-2012, 09:53
We wouldnt touch Salabanzi..at least i wouldnt... He's the Islander, i'm the Islander and we are the whole different breed on Estonians. Period.

blaa
08-14-2012, 11:14
i would have touched salabanzi, i would have touched him real naughty

heyneken
08-14-2012, 11:18
seems like we stopped you in time then.

so what was the reason then? keeps changing....first its accusations of slander...then its homophobic gay buddy reasons lol. what next eh.

I said we attacked wlf for accusing us falsely. Never mentioned anything about the reasons on our would-be attack on bratva.

::LD::GrimReapr
08-14-2012, 11:35
Oh seriously grow a pair. And that goes to everybody from bratva and ws who were cowards enough to join dead after we declared peace with them. Guess we won't make that mistake of trusting retards like them anymore.

As some of you did in ICN when we warred LOR you jumped in to help. So I did the same for my allies I couldn't help WLF as fast as I would have liked but I can help make sure Bratvia wasn't hit. I had no intention of declaring on Eleet after you guys declared peace but as my allies have come to my aid I will go to theirs. Like it or not proof or no proof I know **** well blaa had something to do with the suicides on GRIM this set just like last set. Max was right when he said once a suicider always a suicider.

blaa
08-14-2012, 11:43
just like last set?

i didnt try to hide anything last set, why do it now?

::LD::GrimReapr
08-14-2012, 11:47
because 2 sets in a row would be in my opinion breaking tos and constitute ban for suiciding. Thats why.

Max Logan
08-14-2012, 12:05
just like last set?

i didnt try to hide anything last set, why do it now?

cuz you`re a ***** cat doll? suicider by definition is a coward, so... :)

blaa
08-14-2012, 12:09
u're a latvian

::LD::GrimReapr
08-14-2012, 12:14
Nothing wrong with Latvians especially Max. Max is my second favorite non American that plays this game and that's only because Vortex the Dutchman is first.

Dogma
08-14-2012, 12:23
Yeah, I like Kenny too. Zany Dutch!

Max Logan
08-14-2012, 13:30
how could you ever pick Bledz over me! :o
the audacity!

Dogma
08-14-2012, 13:36
Iwas about to get offended, then I realized you were not talking to me. :blushing:

Divine Intervention
08-14-2012, 13:38
how could you ever pick Bledz over me! :o
the audacity!

well Vortex is in DEAD and you are in USA :p

Max Logan
08-14-2012, 13:45
well Vortex is in DEAD and you are in USA :p

The excuses!!! :o
Grim, you`re so gonna get it...

heyneken
08-14-2012, 14:15
cuz you`re a ***** cat doll? suicider by definition is a coward, so... :)

How is a suicider a coward by definition? Are you seriously that degenerate? Commiting a suicide takes shitload of balls.

blaa
08-14-2012, 14:21
i have 3 testicles

Dogma
08-14-2012, 14:22
Not really.

Divine Intervention
08-14-2012, 14:35
i have 3 testicles

you have 3 braincells. which you share with heyne.

Will
08-14-2012, 14:45
How is a suicider a coward by definition? Are you seriously that degenerate? Commiting a suicide takes shitload of balls.

On this point I'm going to have to agree with heyneken. The idea that suicide is cowardice (the RL kind that is) is as retarded as it gets.

DevilDog
08-14-2012, 16:01
Commiting a suicide takes shitload of balls.

Only if you do it with your own state and don't delete as soon as you do it.

Max Logan
08-14-2012, 16:20
Balls? Haha! No really, that was a good one! :)

Stock, buy ships, AA, laugh. Where do balls get in that equation? Balls is when you get suicided on and you come back set after set to take the same crap. Not that you get hit once, so you go into stocking and just suicide someone/anyone you don`t like. That`s cowardice. And seeing how NW is forgiving, it got nothing to do with balls. Suiciding is plain cowardice, cuz you`re to scared to take it all out. Only when heyne and blaa got a nation behind them, did they manage to put their 2 balls together and actually declare on someone! If you call that having balls, you`re delusional and/or share their belief, in which case, I pity you!

zazibuzi
08-14-2012, 16:47
With this discussion...you have got one more suicider. For now on in further sets, Rid**** - Furian Army (#44, i think) will be a suicider...

heyneken
08-14-2012, 17:23
Balls? Haha! No really, that was a good one! :)

Stock, buy ships, AA, laugh. Where do balls get in that equation? Balls is when you get suicided on and you come back set after set to take the same crap. Not that you get hit once, so you go into stocking and just suicide someone/anyone you don`t like. That`s cowardice. And seeing how NW is forgiving, it got nothing to do with balls. Suiciding is plain cowardice, cuz you`re to scared to take it all out. Only when heyne and blaa got a nation behind them, did they manage to put their 2 balls together and actually declare on someone! If you call that having balls, you`re delusional and/or share their belief, in which case, I pity you!

I was talking about real life, because you said "by definition"...but you know, whatever right?

edit: also, i can't really grasp the idea of being deemed a "coward" in a text-based game...seriously like, wtf?

ukurasmus
08-14-2012, 18:05
I was talking about real life, because you said "by definition"...but you know, whatever right?

edit: also, i can't really grasp the idea of being deemed a "coward" in a text-based game...seriously like, wtf?

Let it be, heyne, what good or bad it is to be a virtual "hero" or a virtual "coward"? :D

Benjidatramp
08-14-2012, 19:31
Nothing wrong with Latvians especially Max. Max is my second favorite non American that plays this game and that's only because Vortex the Dutchman is first.

Breaking my heart Grim

::LD::GrimReapr
08-14-2012, 23:36
Breaking my heart Grim

I'm sorry Benji it's just that I know Max and Kenny longer. If its any consolation your my favorite Australian.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 00:39
I was talking about real life, because you said "by definition"...but you know, whatever right?

edit: also, i can't really grasp the idea of being deemed a "coward" in a text-based game...seriously like, wtf?

RL suiciders are the biggest cowards. They don`t have balls to go public, to manifest people, to go make their ideas and problems be know.
They don`t go out, don`t gather people, don`t do meetings, don`t do anything. They get someone to brainwash them, strap on a few plastics
and go sky high. Is that supposed to be ballsy? That`s a shitty and cowardly excuse for quitters.

You`re the same, little children are the same - if they can`t get their way they go cry in a corner, don`t talk, break stuff until mommy buys them
the candy they wanted. Pffft, pathetic your lot is! Suicider...

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 00:43
Let it be, heyne, what good or bad it is to be a virtual "hero" or a virtual "coward"? :D

oh you`re so badass! you probably watched John Wayne movies when you were a kid! You virtual 'badasses' are hurting the game
with your bs suiciding. And what`s worse, you don`t even give a **** about the game, just your personal ego. If you don`t like
it here, get the **** out, go play Domination or smt! But, oh, I forget, you already ruined Domination, so there`s that! Suiciders...

MAGGIO
08-15-2012, 01:33
I see USA saving turns... maybe they are just running a drill, maybe they are just holding turns "in case", maybe NOT

Dead hit USA last set and it stung a bit...

eleet stole some thunder this set against DEAD...

eleet is run by Blaa who just did some suicides...

DEAD got hit by two suiciders earlier in the set...

At this point in the SET/This Chapter the saga continues with DEAD and ICN/eleet

At this point, if the USA enters this situation it will almost be like "choosing a side"

By all means its ok, acceptable, and expected for USA to get/want some licks against DEAD, but there is a time and a place, and to join forces with Blaa just wouldnt be appropriate for the USA's Saga.

and by DEAD I mean DEAD and "friends of DEAD" including WS, and WLF and Anton, Inc. It was NO HOLDS BARRED once the suiciding started and they are lining up to get at Blaa and that should continue for some time to come

BOTTOM LINE I would hate to see the words USA next to Blaa/ICN/eleet unless there is a "vs" inbetween

There is a line in the sand and im not suggesting eitherway or another to cross or not to cross, but if anything even resembles USA teaming up with Blaa....(i just threwup in my mouth) then I would be disgusted with the Legend that is USA.

Blackwater
08-15-2012, 02:02
I see USA saving turns... maybe they are just running a drill, maybe they are just holding turns "in case", maybe NOT

Dead hit USA last set and it stung a bit...

eleet stole some thunder this set against DEAD...

eleet is run by Blaa who just did some suicides...

DEAD got hit by two suiciders earlier in the set...

At this point in the SET/This Chapter the saga continues with DEAD and ICN/eleet

At this point, if the USA enters this situation it will almost be like "choosing a side"

By all means its ok, acceptable, and expected for USA to get/want some licks against DEAD, but there is a time and a place, and to join forces with Blaa just wouldnt be appropriate for the USA's Saga.

and by DEAD I mean DEAD and "friends of DEAD" including WS, and WLF and Anton, Inc. It was NO HOLDS BARRED once the suiciding started and they are lining up to get at Blaa and that should continue for some time to come

BOTTOM LINE I would hate to see the words USA next to Blaa/ICN/eleet unless there is a "vs" inbetween

There is a line in the sand and im not suggesting eitherway or another to cross or not to cross, but if anything even resembles USA teaming up with Blaa....(i just threwup in my mouth) then I would be disgusted with the Legend that is USA.

No need to get ahead of your self Maggio. You are commenting on a what if :) Also check our GE and you will see we handled a suicider. Weren't sure at first who was SPY OPing us at first so we went on alert and then found our target and handled it.

DevilDog
08-15-2012, 04:07
No need to get ahead of your self Maggio. You are commenting on a what if :) Also check our GE and you will see we handled a suicider. Weren't sure at first who was SPY OPing us at first so we went on alert and then found our target and handled it.

So the 3 little ones that were hiding and came back to USA, you coming back at the same time not to mention everyone just about at full turns was to kill 1 suicider!

Please tell us more because we're all new and believe everything you tell us. ;)

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 04:30
oh no, you discovered our secret plan on killing LoUB and claiming top dominance! :o
what we gonna do now....

heyneken
08-15-2012, 05:58
RL suiciders are the biggest cowards. They don`t have balls to go public, to manifest people, to go make their ideas and problems be know.
They don`t go out, don`t gather people, don`t do meetings, don`t do anything. They get someone to brainwash them, strap on a few plastics
and go sky high. Is that supposed to be ballsy? That`s a shitty and cowardly excuse for quitters.

You`re the same, little children are the same - if they can`t get their way they go cry in a corner, don`t talk, break stuff until mommy buys them
the candy they wanted. Pffft, pathetic your lot is! Suicider...

Oh my god you are so stupid :D. We were talking about RL suicides as in people hanging themselves. But actually it doesn't really matter. You have this stereotypical american moronic idea that suicide is for quitters. In reality, you are so afraid of death and couldn't even think about killing yourself without peeing in your pants a little.

I'm like a little child? :D I'm not the one crying here, unlike you. I just like making weak people such as yourself mad. Call it a hobby or whatever. And don't tell me you're not mad, because that "Suicider..." clearly states otherwise, kid..:D

ukurasmus
08-15-2012, 05:59
oh you`re so badass! you probably watched John Wayne movies when you were a kid! You virtual 'badasses' are hurting the game
with your bs suiciding. And what`s worse, you don`t even give a **** about the game, just your personal ego. If you don`t like
it here, get the **** out, go play Domination or smt! But, oh, I forget, you already ruined Domination, so there`s that! Suiciders...

You call me ignorant? Obviously, thinking is not among your greatest qualities.
First off, no statement by us where we would call us 'virtual badasses' or 'badasses'. Secondly, my post was mostly for Heyne to back off from a flamewar, which is no good for either his persona nor the game as a whole.

Your comment about Domination only shows lack of knowledge and your will to boost the flamewar in the forum. Well done, my friend ;)

EDIT:
oh no, you discovered our secret plan on killing LoUB and claiming top dominance! :o
what we gonna do now....
Hey, that was our masterplan!

Divine Intervention
08-15-2012, 06:03
IMO, if someone is at the bottom of their life, theres no bravery in taking the easy way out. Its not like your dieing by dismemberment. Many take pills etc...fall asleep. no bravery in that. Bravery is fighting against the odds of life, when things seem at their worst, persevering even when its hard.

Dogma
08-15-2012, 06:24
So the 3 little ones that were hiding and came back to USA, you coming back at the same time not to mention everyone just about at full turns was to kill 1 suicider!

Please tell us more because we're all new and believe everything you tell us. ;)

Actually we rejoined USA because we saw eleet targeting small one or two man nations so we decided that before they hit our little selves, we would go back to USA.

And if you guys were actually paying attention, we always play with high turns as we try and be efficient in our turn use. Well most of the time anyway...

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 07:30
Oh my god you are so stupid :D. We were talking about RL suicides as in people hanging themselves. But actually it doesn't really matter. You have this stereotypical american moronic idea that suicide is for quitters. In reality, you are so afraid of death and couldn't even think about killing yourself without peeing in your pants a little.

I'm like a little child? :D I'm not the one crying here, unlike you. I just like making weak people such as yourself mad. Call it a hobby or whatever. And don't tell me you're not mad, because that "Suicider..." clearly states otherwise, kid..:D

How is hanging different from blowing yourself up? You`re suiciding for a cause, either way. Suicide is a cowards way out, no matter how you put it. It`s much difficult to live and fight than taking ones life. How ****ed up are you? I`m not American, can`t have their 'moronic' view on anything. You can`t truly believe killing yourself is a brave thing? Jesus, you need serious medical help! But I guess a quitter and suicider would agree to such a stand point.

You are a little child! Not 'like a', 'a'.
Fact. You said you suicided me last set to prove a point to change the game because no one was listening to you.
Crying? I`m laughing at you! You got beat. You`re being 'pwned' by the community! What do I have to be mad about? I can bet next set you`ll be the usual suicider you are! So there`s that, suicider... :)

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 07:34
You call me ignorant? Obviously, thinking is not among your greatest qualities.
First off, no statement by us where we would call us 'virtual badasses' or 'badasses'. Secondly, my post was mostly for Heyne to back off from a flamewar, which is no good for either his persona nor the game as a whole.

Your comment about Domination only shows lack of knowledge and your will to boost the flamewar in the forum. Well done, my friend ;)

Nah, I know everything about Domination as I played it, so there`s that.
And, obviously, I`m far more 'thinking' (you probably wanted to use the word perceptive, but oh well) then you, or by that account, most everyone in the game. So no points there too.

And lastly, I don`t even know why you picking on me, I don`t really care...or rather have issues with you... only your suicider nation mates!
What do you say we make peace, you and me? :)

ukurasmus
08-15-2012, 08:40
And lastly, I don`t even know why you picking on me, I don`t really care...or rather have issues with you... only your suicider nation mates!

Why I'm picking on you? Actually I wouldn't say I was picking on anybody, I was implying that you didn't think before posting an offesive comment on my post. Let me refresh memory on how you replied to my post on Heyne:

oh you`re so badass! you probably watched John Wayne movies when you were a kid! You virtual 'badasses' are hurting the game
with your bs suiciding. And what`s worse, you don`t even give a **** about the game, just your personal ego. If you don`t like
it here, get the **** out, go play Domination or smt! But, oh, I forget, you already ruined Domination, so there`s that! Suiciders...


What do you say we make peace, you and me? :)

I don't think we're having a fight here, so there's no need to MAKE peace. ;)

But it would be nice if people here would understand that it's not in-game actions that kill the game. To kill a game you only need to kill the community behind it. I have only seen one or two times signs of vibrant community here during my stay. Instead of better game mechanics or suicider detection/punishment, this game needs to get rid of the childish accusations, name calling and judging someone's testicles based on his/hers virtual 'bravery'.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 08:47
How is hanging different from blowing yourself up? You`re suiciding for a cause, either way. Suicide is a cowards way out, no matter how you put it. It`s much difficult to live and fight than taking ones life. How ****ed up are you? I`m not American, can`t have their 'moronic' view on anything. You can`t truly believe killing yourself is a brave thing? Jesus, you need serious medical help! But I guess a quitter and suicider would agree to such a stand point.

You are a little child! Not 'like a', 'a'.
Fact. You said you suicided me last set to prove a point to change the game because no one was listening to you.
Crying? I`m laughing at you! You got beat. You`re being 'pwned' by the community! What do I have to be mad about? I can bet next set you`ll be the usual suicider you are! So there`s that, suicider... :)

Did you honestly say killing innocent people with you and killing just yourself is the same? :S You need some serious medical help. And I know you're not American, everyone can figure that out by reading your posts, the american part went together with "stereotypical".
I have never said killing oneself is a brave thing, I said it is not cowardice. For example, you could never commit suicide, because you're a coward.
Oh and I kind of lied, I never cared about changing the game lol. I just didn't have enough time to net nor war. So I made some turns every once in a while and had some fun. If I happen to be busy in September then I'll probably do it again :)

>confuses a verb with an adjective
>thinks he's smart
>ishygddt lol

blaa
08-15-2012, 09:01
All your philosophical discussion about suicide is educational and stuff, but I'm not really interested in that.

So in other topics.
I can understand that I am a suicider now and blabla, never ever trust me and blabla, but there's one thing I can not understand.

'blaa trying to kill the game, he only cares about his ego'.

I believe this is not true. Yes, I suicided once, yes, I started a war this set. But that is it. During the last year my nation (ICN) was warred multiple times. Sometimes randomly, other times not so randomly. We only declared war once before other party - it was the set we gang banged DEAD. But they had already declared on LoR, so I wouldn't call us agressors on that set. This round (August), was the only time we (eleet) were the agressors. Oh and, let me be honest, we would have been agressors on June as well, but anton killed us first. So yes, I tried/did start a war twice, and suicided once.

Not once were my targets new people or random people. Yes, I did it for revenge. Yes, I was bitter for DEAD/WLF/Anton constantly being a threat. So decided to act like you usually do in a war game. You organize and you fight back. Yes, I am not as good organizer and leader as Anton/Kris/MrP, but I tried.

Can you blame me for trying? Anton[DEAD] will not finish a set without a war, and why they should war anybody else if I'm playing? Anton[WLF] was inactive this set, but anton could easily liven the place up with placing some more eggs in that basket. Anton[Bratva] can net if they, they can war if they want. I don't see me/my nation being competitive with those enemies... So why should I let them get the much wanted FS every set?

But I do think that saying that I want only bad for the game is a bit too much.

Will
08-15-2012, 09:11
RL suiciders are the biggest cowards. They don`t have balls to go public, to manifest people, to go make their ideas and problems be know.
They don`t go out, don`t gather people, don`t do meetings, don`t do anything. They get someone to brainwash them, strap on a few plastics
and go sky high. Is that supposed to be ballsy? That`s a shitty and cowardly excuse for quitters.

You`re the same, little children are the same - if they can`t get their way they go cry in a corner, don`t talk, break stuff until mommy buys them
the candy they wanted. Pffft, pathetic your lot is! Suicider...

Max I like you but you cannot be serious with this. The human body is hardwired to survive at almost any cost, which means that to commit suicide you have to manually override these impulses. This takes enormous willpower (or sustained brainwashing) Suicide bombers don't just strap on an explosive vest one day and find something to blow up. It takes months of preparation including a great deal of propaganda/religious dogma or both before someone is ready to become a suicide bomber. I consdier a sucide bomber to be deserving of far more respect than say a bomber pilot, who kills people with absolutely no risk to himself (these days, WW2 was another matter.). The suicide bomber goes into his mission knowing full well he will die, and whether or not you agree with his methods or targets, shouldn't detract from the respect they deserve. Suicide bombing isn't nice, but it certainly is not cowardly. Same with personal suicide.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 09:13
So in conclusion, people like grim, max, anton, devildog and other people with an iq below the legal retardation limit are actually the ones ruining this game. Why do you think the memberbase has shrunk to like 50 players? Duh.

edit: anton doesn't really belong to that list, I think he's pretty smart and witty etc, but I just dislike him yo.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 10:28
Did you honestly say killing innocent people with you and killing just yourself is the same? :S You need some serious medical help. And I know you're not American, everyone can figure that out by reading your posts, the american part went together with "stereotypical".
I have never said killing oneself is a brave thing, I said it is not cowardice. For example, you could never commit suicide, because you're a coward.
Oh and I kind of lied, I never cared about changing the game lol. I just didn't have enough time to net nor war. So I made some turns every once in a while and had some fun. If I happen to be busy in September then I'll probably do it again :)l

Suicide is suicide. That takes no bravery. Living, struggling is bravery. Quitting is cowardice, no matter how you put it. It`s like losing a game, you just quit, without trying to make it work. Quitting on life is cowardice.

So according to your logic, you`re a coward. You don`t have balls to commit suicide, you just live on. Therefor judging by what you said, every living person is a coward, because they can`t commit suicide, they don`t have balls for it. Nice. you just called your entire family cowards. Oh wait, you`re gonna make a silly excuse how that doesn`t count, as only Max is a coward because he can`t commit suicide and by some magic, random and utterly unconscionable logic that is true! Only in your world heyne, only in your!

So you gonna suicide again? tsk, tsk and I`m proved right. I`m getting tired of being the wisest.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 10:31
Max I like you but you cannot be serious with this. The human body is hardwired to survive at almost any cost, which means that to commit suicide you have to manually override these impulses. This takes enormous willpower (or sustained brainwashing) Suicide bombers don't just strap on an explosive vest one day and find something to blow up. It takes months of preparation including a great deal of propaganda/religious dogma or both before someone is ready to become a suicide bomber. I consdier a sucide bomber to be deserving of far more respect than say a bomber pilot, who kills people with absolutely no risk to himself (these days, WW2 was another matter.). The suicide bomber goes into his mission knowing full well he will die, and whether or not you agree with his methods or targets, shouldn't detract from the respect they deserve. Suicide bombing isn't nice, but it certainly is not cowardly. Same with personal suicide.

Suicide bomber is just some mentally weak person that happen to meet a very suggestive person to convince him to go to any length for an ideology he himself before was not even aware of. Simple as that.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 10:34
So in conclusion, people like grim, max, anton, devildog and other people with an iq below the legal retardation limit are actually the ones ruining this game. Why do you think the memberbase has shrunk to like 50 players? Duh.

edit: anton doesn't really belong to that list, I think he's pretty smart and witty etc, but I just dislike him yo.

I`m sorry. but my IQ is way over average and and I don`t need to resort to 'retardness' and insulting to prove my point. Obviously your mental and verbal capa.city ends at insults and flaming. How very...'masterful' of you. Why don`t you start picking on my grammar next? Or my hairstyle? I bet that`ll make you look 'smarter'! Though smart is actually a well dressed person and what you refer to is actually intelligence and wisdom, kudos.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 11:30
Suicide is suicide. That takes no bravery. Living, struggling is bravery. Quitting is cowardice, no matter how you put it. It`s like losing a game, you just quit, without trying to make it work. Quitting on life is cowardice.

So according to your logic, you`re a coward. You don`t have balls to commit suicide, you just live on. Therefor judging by what you said, every living person is a coward, because they can`t commit suicide, they don`t have balls for it. Nice. you just called your entire family cowards. Oh wait, you`re gonna make a silly excuse how that doesn`t count, as only Max is a coward because he can`t commit suicide and by some magic, random and utterly unconscionable logic that is true! Only in your world heyne, only in your!

So you gonna suicide again? tsk, tsk and I`m proved right. I`m getting tired of being the wisest.

Maybe stop putting words to my mouth? I said suiciders are not cowards. It doesn't automatically mean that those who do not commit suicide are cowards. What kind of ****ed up logic do you have?


Though smart is actually a well dressed person and what you refer to is actually intelligence and wisdom, kudos.

Smart is first and foremost a synonym for intelligent. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/smart
You just proved my point, thanks.

Will
08-15-2012, 12:02
Suicide bomber is just some mentally weak person that happen to meet a very suggestive person to convince him to go to any length for an ideology he himself before was not even aware of. Simple as that.

That's way too simplistic. Suicide bombers may be fanatics, but I'll bet few of them are weak minded.

Also, how do you feel about the tunisian guy who lit himself on fire and sparked off the arab spring? or the buddhist monks who set themselves on fire for what they believed in? or hunger strikers who die? are they all cowards? all of those are suicides.

It's way easier to live, even if you hate your life, than to commit suicide. If suicide was really the "easy way out" then suicide rates would be astronomical in places like Africa.

::LD::GrimReapr
08-15-2012, 12:35
I have declared Peace on Eleet just as Eleet did to GRIM when they beat us.
We had no intention of warring Eleet after the beating they gave us. I could not sit by after they rolled over an ally like they did so they could declare on another ally. We in GRIM look to finish this set in peace.

Like I said I have all ready declared peace on Eleet in good faith just as Eleet had done for us. I see no reason in carrying on with this war killing restarts.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 12:55
Maybe stop putting words to my mouth? I said suiciders are not cowards. It doesn't automatically mean that those who do not commit suicide are cowards. What kind of ****ed up logic do you have?

Smart is first and foremost a synonym for intelligent. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/smart
You just proved my point, thanks.

OMG! You used an internet dictionary, you must know it all! Try quote Wikipedia in a scientific review next!
Smart is old English word for well dressed and well behaved people, Americans and later Brits themselves made into a word for intelligence, as back in the 17-19th century intelligent people were 'smart' - they were very articulated (speech, not joints), well spoken and neat. Hence with time it become synonym for intelligence, which in it`s core, is wrong.

As for the logic part, suddenly, you back down from your own statements. One moment you say A, then you try to prove that me using argument A is ****ed up logic. You really need me to quote you saying I don`t have balls, I`m a coward as I don`t commit suicide? And doesn`t that generally mean that EVERYONE who doesn`t commit suicide is a coward? Or your logic is based upon the fact that only I am a coward if I don`t commit suicide and everyone else is not? It`s like I`m guilty of murdering someone, but you are not because you don`t fall under the same logic and henceforth can murder and kill above law, yes? What kind of ****ed up logic do YOU have?

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 13:06
That's way too simplistic. Suicide bombers may be fanatics, but I'll bet few of them are weak minded.

Also, how do you feel about the tunisian guy who lit himself on fire and sparked off the arab spring? or the buddhist monks who set themselves on fire for what they believed in? or hunger strikers who die? are they all cowards? all of those are suicides.

It's way easier to live, even if you hate your life, than to commit suicide. If suicide was really the "easy way out" then suicide rates would be astronomical in places like Africa.

Still cowards. I understand martydom, to die fighting, but taking your life willingly is in my book cowardice. Life is beautiful and we all have but one. It`s disrespectful to all the people who die of illness and in accidents, to take your life while others were plunged from this world and would give everything to stay alive. Suicide is the greatest offense you could ever commit.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 13:30
OMG! You used an internet dictionary, you must know it all! Try quote Wikipedia in a scientific review next!
Smart is old English word for well dressed and well behaved people, Americans and later Brits themselves made into a word for intelligence, as back in the 17-19th century intelligent people were 'smart' - they were very articulated (speech, not joints), well spoken and neat. Hence with time it become synonym for intelligence, which in it`s core, is wrong.

As for the logic part, suddenly, you back down from your own statements. One moment you say A, then you try to prove that me using argument A is ****ed up logic. You really need me to quote you saying I don`t have balls, I`m a coward as I don`t commit suicide? And doesn`t that generally mean that EVERYONE who doesn`t commit suicide is a coward? Or your logic is based upon the fact that only I am a coward if I don`t commit suicide and everyone else is not? It`s like I`m guilty of murdering someone, but you are not because you don`t fall under the same logic and henceforth can murder and kill above law, yes? What kind of ****ed up logic do YOU have?

What difference does the word's etymological background make here? I don't go and blabber on about how the word coward actually meant tail in Old French 500 years ago. But just to prove you wrong, I logged onto my OED account and looked up the actual first meaning of smart. And what do you know, it's:

a. Sharp physical pain, esp. such as is caused by a stroke, sting, or wound. Also with a and pl.

a1200 Moral Ode 114 Wa se seið þet he bo hal him solf wat best his smirte [Trin. smierte, Egerton smerte].

You can't check it out, because OED is for paying customers only, but I guess you just have to take my word for it.
Never backed down from my arguments. I said you could never commit suicide because you are a coward; not that you're a coward, because you don't kill yourself. Learn to make the difference. I know it's a subtle one, but try nevertheless. So, brave people don't have to commit suicide by definition, but they are the ones who have the possibility to do so. The cowardice people do not have that possibility; hence, they won'/can't commit suicide.

I love how you draw the line between people who are cowards and people who are disrespectful. Kind of lol'd there

Divine Intervention
08-15-2012, 13:51
Not once were my targets new people or random people. Yes, I did it for revenge. Yes, I was bitter for DEAD/WLF/Anton constantly being a threat. So decided to act like you usually do in a war game. You organize and you fight back. Yes, I am not as good organizer and leader as Anton/Kris/MrP, but I tried.

Can you blame me for trying? Anton[DEAD] will not finish a set without a war, and why they should war anybody else if I'm playing? Anton[WLF] was inactive this set, but anton could easily liven the place up with placing some more eggs in that basket. Anton[Bratva] can net if they, they can war if they want. I don't see me/my nation being competitive with those enemies... So why should I let them get the much wanted FS every set?

But I do think that saying that I want only bad for the game is a bit too much.

I dont get it...do I lead WLF and DEAD as well as my own tags now :P I only run the warchats :p But I am not a random warrer. I do not like warring as a nation leader...why? For the simple reason that I take great care of my players. Really hurts me to see all their effort over the course of a set go to waste in war...thats why Im always super active during wars - I want to keep everyone alive so that they aren't like "****, thats 2-3 weeks of stocking down the drain. Which is why Warring sets are always massive emotional and time consuming drains on me. For example for the past 3 days I have been going to bed at 5-8am, waking up at 10-11am. I dont want to do this every set, but that is the only way I can war - I dont like putting in half assed attempts...

The Made set isnt really representative of me...as I said...DSL/CCCP, one of my closest players was planning on joining the army and wanted to go out with a bang. thats why we did lots of warring. Otherwise, I'd say 75percent of my tags have been netting tags - or attempts at netting tags...most of the time people war me.

Id love to be able to net in peace without having to consider people like you as enemies...heck its been quite nice not seeing LoR as a constant threat anymore to me (like they were during the days of Kenshin - never allowing me to net)...and its not like im not trying to bridge the gaps....I have quite a big outreach programme and always have atleast 1-3 Estonians in my tag...its been really nice having Zazibuzi last set and I hope he joins me in future...same with Salabanzi this set...not to mention the regular guys...

Personally, I dont have any plans to FS you in the future if I see you running a tag. Heck I was even willing to let you into my tags last set to build trust, but you betrayed it by suiciding out of my tag. If you were willing to commit to stopping doing the random attacks on people, Im sure playing in my tag for a few sets would rebuild the trust of the community to a reasonable level...plus im sure that DEAD and WLF wouldnt attack you whilst you were with me...but id have to ask them first to make sure :D



So in conclusion, people like grim, max, anton, devildog and other people with an iq below the legal retardation limit are actually the ones ruining this game. Why do you think the memberbase has shrunk to like 50 players? Duh.

edit: anton doesn't really belong to that list, I think he's pretty smart and witty etc, but I just dislike him yo.

I dont see how I ruin the game when Im sure dozens of players can attest that Im always helping everyone who asks for help, and even those who dont - I help with with netting / stocking / warring advice...state setup etc....If the player is in my tag I usually help them find grabs etc...Furthermore...I dont know many other people apart from maybe Skycat (which is a bit of an unfair comparison because he had all of Domination to draw support from) who can consistently recruit /get as many people to play this game as I can. If I stopped playing I think maybe 10, eventually maybe 15 players would stop playing.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 13:57
Never backed down from my arguments. I said you could never commit suicide because you are a coward; not that you're a coward, because you don't kill yourself. Learn to make the difference. I know it's a subtle one, but try nevertheless. So, brave people don't have to commit suicide by definition, but they are the ones who have the possibility to do so. The cowardice people do not have that possibility; hence, they won'/can't commit suicide.

I love how you draw the line between people who are cowards and people who are disrespectful. Kind of lol'd there

I am not because I am? How is that an argument? I`m alive so I`m a coward. I`m coward because I`m alive. How does that work? Do I prove you wrong by commiting suicide or do I prove myself right by not? Seeing how your logic is based upon an assumption not actual fact, we can fairly say that you are not right, and seeing how you cannot bring forth a legit and logic argument as to why committing suicide is bravery, we can safely say, that suicide is cowardice. According to your own logic - brave people don`t have to commit suicide. Taking that in account and looking at the religious and social background of suicide - taking your own life is cowardice, while struggling and fighting is bravery.

Your entire logic is based upon - you don`t commit suicide, you`re a coward, cuz you`re a coward so you can`t commit suicide. it`s pure wordplay and as such an illegit argument.


I said it`s disrespectful to the people who lost their lives for suiciders to take their own life. Try to learn the difference, before you accuse me of not seeing it. I know it`s subtle one but do try it! You take 2 words in the same post and link them by your own imaginary and, as proven before, messed up logic. If we go that way I can say - you take Old French and argue the meaning of the word suicide, to make your case. 2 totally different arguments you place in the same line to make a point when you have NO more arguments or legit points to prove me wrong, so you have to make up facts. What a great argument!

Will
08-15-2012, 14:03
Still cowards. I understand martydom, to die fighting, but taking your life willingly is in my book cowardice. Life is beautiful and we all have but one. It`s disrespectful to all the people who die of illness and in accidents, to take your life while others were plunged from this world and would give everything to stay alive. Suicide is the greatest offense you could ever commit.

I take the view that your life is yours to do with as you please, which includes ending it when you please. There is no shame in it. Living is hardwired into us, so to hate life and yet carry on is to take the easy path. Summoning the willpower to overcome nature is certainly not cowardly.

Pretty much all the major religions oppose suicide. Why? my guess is that suicide = dying on your terms, not some priest's, not a God's. Yours and yours alone. You can't control dead people.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 14:04
Have you put any thought into how many members might have left because of you? But then again, like I said, you probably don't belong to that list.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 14:11
I take the view that your life is yours to do with as you please, which includes ending it when you please. There is no shame in it. Living is hardwired into us, so to hate life and yet carry on is to take the easy path. Summoning the willpower to overcome nature is certainly not cowardly.

Pretty much all the major religions oppose suicide. Why? my guess is that suicide = dying on your terms, not some priest's, not a God's. Yours and yours alone. You can't control dead people.

How is living worse then dying? Death is the end - no more opportunities, no more means to fix your life. Who`s stronger and braver - a person that wakes up 5 days a week to go to work, feed his familiy, finds time to go out with his friends, does sports, takes care of his parents - or a person that decides to to kick bucket and jump from a skyscrapper? How does dying take more bravery then living? Tell a hard working person that he`s shit compared to the guy that blew his brain all over the wall cuz he`s girlfriend left! Or tell the people that die from gunmen who attack schools every year that their life is shit, because the gunmen were the real heros and all the victims were idiots, cuz they didn`t think of it first.

I`m sorry, but that`s ****ed up!

heyneken
08-15-2012, 14:16
I am not because I am? How is that an argument? I`m alive so I`m a coward. I`m coward because I`m alive. How does that work? Do I prove you wrong by commiting suicide or do I prove myself right by not? Seeing how your logic is based upon an assumption not actual fact, we can fairly say that you are not right, and seeing how you cannot bring forth a legit and logic argument as to why committing suicide is bravery, we can safely say, that suicide is cowardice. According to your own logic - brave people don`t have to commit suicide. Taking that in account and looking at the religious and social background of suicide - taking your own life is cowardice, while struggling and fighting is bravery.

Your entire logic is based upon - you don`t commit suicide, you`re a coward, cuz you`re a coward so you can`t commit suicide. it`s pure wordplay and as such an illegit argument.


I said it`s disrespectful to the people who lost their lives for suiciders to take their own life. Try to learn the difference, before you accuse me of not seeing it. I know it`s subtle one but do try it! You take 2 words in the same post and link them by your own imaginary and, as proven before, messed up logic. If we go that way I can say - you take Old French and argue the meaning of the word suicide, to make your case. 2 totally different arguments you place in the same line to make a point when you have NO more arguments or legit points to prove me wrong, so you have to make up facts. What a great argument!

Are you for real? Can someone please tell me if I'm being trolled?

How can you not get the concept that you're a coward, not because you don't kill yourself, but because you just are. I brought an example, that you're a coward; thus, can't commit suicide. It doesn't mean that all people who don't commit suicide are cowards. oh my god.


Seeing how your logic is based upon an assumption not actual fact, we can fairly say that you are not right, and seeing how you cannot bring forth a legit and logic argument as to why committing suicide is bravery, we can safely say, that suicide is cowardice.

Seeing how your logic is based upon an assumption not actual fact, we can fairly say that you are not right, and seeing how you cannot bring forth a legit and logic argument as to why committing suicide is cowardice, we can safely say, that suicide is bravery. Poteito-potato.

And I said brave people don't necessarily kill themselves, but they are the only ones who have the possibility; unlike coward people.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 14:22
How is living worse then dying? Death is the end - no more opportunities, no more means to fix your life. Who`s stronger and braver - a person that wakes up 5 days a week to go to work, feed his familiy, finds time to go out with his friends, does sports, takes care of his parents - or a person that decides to to kick bucket and jump from a skyscrapper? How does dying take more bravery then living? Tell a hard working person that he`s shit compared to the guy that blew his brain all over the wall cuz he`s girlfriend left! Or tell the people that die from gunmen who attack schools every year that their life is shit, because the gunmen were the real heros and all the victims were idiots, cuz they didn`t think of it first.

I`m sorry, but that`s ****ed up!

For the last time: we're not saying ordinary people are cowards, we're just saying that people who kill themselves are not.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 14:27
Are you for real? Can someone please tell me if I'm being trolled?

How can you not get the concept that you're a coward, not because you don't kill yourself, but because you just are. I brought an example, that you're a coward; thus, can't commit suicide. It doesn't mean that all people who don't commit suicide are cowards. oh my god.

Seeing how your logic is based upon an assumption not actual fact, we can fairly say that you are not right, and seeing how you cannot bring forth a legit and logic argument as to why committing suicide is cowardice, we can safely say, that suicide is bravery. Poteito-potato.

And I said brave people don't necessarily kill themselves, but they are the only ones who have the possibility; unlike coward people.

And upon what to you base your fact that I`m a coward? Because I`m alive and cannot commit suicide. So per that logic we can say that every person in your mind that won`t commit suicide is a coward, and they are coward because they won`t be able to commit suicide. I`m saying what you`ve told a dozen times. Ask anyone to scroll back a few pages and they`ll see this - you said I`m coward and I won`t be able to commit suicide, then you said I won`t commit suicide because I`m a coward. You gave no grounds or reason as to way you think I`m coward, no reason as to should commit suicide in the first place. You just ASSUME it`s right, so it must be. So by your logic truth is true because it`s you OPINION. Since when do opinions count as facts and valid and logic arguments? Let me guess, it`s because you think it is! What sound logic. My argument came from a fact - you suicide me last set, so you`re a suicider. and suiciders are cowards because you didn`t openly declare you`ll be doing anything, blaa hid before his suicides, the suicider on Grim this set deleted after he killed him. SO based upon empiric facts we can deduce - suiciders are cowards. Straight facts, no assumptions.

Talk about trolling. Get some facts, not your personal opinions and then we`ll talk. Master... can I l.o.l. now?

P.s. you last line proves my point - you backed out saying it`s not necessary to kill yourself to be brave, while I`m a coward because I don`t kill myself, but at the same time you deny I have the possibility to do so, so by default I`m coward and you`re not because you have the possibility because you`re not me, so by some default you`re not a coward. Give me facts, arguments, not your opinion and assumptions of me.

Max Logan
08-15-2012, 14:29
For the last time: we're not saying ordinary people are cowards, we're just saying that people who kill themselves are not.

I`m sure Will said living a hard life and not committing suicide is taking the easy path - cowardice. so not committing suicide according to will is less brave then living and fighting.

Not speaking of you at that point.

Will
08-15-2012, 14:30
How is living worse then dying? Death is the end - no more opportunities, no more means to fix your life. Who`s stronger and braver - a person that wakes up 5 days a week to go to work, feed his familiy, finds time to go out with his friends, does sports, takes care of his parents - or a person that decides to to kick bucket and jump from a skyscrapper? How does dying take more bravery then living? Tell a hard working person that he`s shit compared to the guy that blew his brain all over the wall cuz he`s girlfriend left! Or tell the people that die from gunmen who attack schools every year that their life is shit, because the gunmen were the real heros and all the victims were idiots, cuz they didn`t think of it first.

I`m sorry, but that ****ed up!

The hell Max? what does a school shooting have to do with suicide?

I never equated murder with suicide. I said you had the right to end YOUR life when you want. If you want to live, that's fine. Do what you want as long as you're not harming others. If you decide that you have a shit life and you can't see any way to improve it, then as far as I'm concerned, jumping off a cliff is entirely acceptable in my book. The hard working man can do what he wants, but he has no right to look down on the man who blows his brains out. Can he read his mind? does he understand
what's going through his head? No. Some people get dealt good cards in life, others don't. Your future is rarely decided by you alone.

We all die sooner or later, so what does it really matter if you die from old age at 90 or jump off a cliff at 20? Your achievements (or lack of them) in life have absolutely no meaning to you once you die, and unless you do something pretty spectacular few poeple will remember you regardless of how you die.

Monty Python may be comedy, but it made some very good philosophical points.

"You come from nothing, you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!" - Life of Brian

heyneken
08-15-2012, 14:46
And upon what to you base your fact that I`m a coward? Because I`m alive and cannot commit suicide. So per that logic we can say that every person in your mind that won`t commit suicide is a coward, and they are coward because they won`t be able to commit suicide. I`m saying what you`ve told a dozen times. Ask anyone to scroll back a few pages and they`ll see this - you said I`m coward and I won`t be able to commit suicide, then you said I won`t commit suicide because I`m a coward. You gave no grounds or reason as to way you think I`m coward, no reason as to should commit suicide in the first place. You just ASSUME it`s right, so it must be. So by your logic truth is true because it`s you OPINION.

Yes, I assume you're a coward. In what world could I possibly prove that by facts? It's my opinion of you. Doesn't change my logical set-up.


Since when do opinions count as facts and valid and logic arguments? Let me guess, it`s because you think it is! What sound logic. My argument came from a fact - you suicide me last set, so you`re a suicider. and suiciders are cowards because you didn`t openly declare you`ll be doing anything, blaa hid before his suicides, the suicider on Grim this set deleted after he killed him. SO based upon empiric facts we can deduce - suiciders are cowards. Straight facts, no assumptions.

So, I'm a coward because I didn't let you know upfront that I would be attacking you? In a war game. And that's a fact by your standards? Do you have any idea how retarded that deduction sounds?


Talk about trolling. Get some facts, not your personal opinions and then we`ll talk. Master... can I l.o.l. now?

Could say the same, you have absolutely no facts. But read some of Will's post; imo he explains rather clearly why suiciders are not cowards. And didn't Anton already clear that the Tunisia guy was not me? C-c-c-can I l.o.l. now?


P.s. you last line proves my point - you backed out saying it`s not necessary to kill yourself to be brave, while I`m a coward because I don`t kill myself, but at the same time you deny I have the possibility to do so, so by default I`m coward and you`re not because you have the possibility because you`re not me, so by some default you`re not a coward. Give me facts, arguments, not your opinion and assumptions of me.

When did I ever say it's necessary to kill oneself to be brave?

MellonColly
08-15-2012, 15:10
jesus....you guys need to debate something better than this.

bunch of shit cloggin up the forums today help:::

Will
08-15-2012, 15:24
jesus....you guys need to debate something better than this.

bunch of shit cloggin up the forums today help:::

Compared to what usually gets talked about here? It's somewhat refreshing. Haven't had a good argument here in ages :)

MellonColly
08-15-2012, 15:33
Compared to what usually gets talked about here? It's somewhat refreshing. Haven't had a good argument here in ages :)

eh true :P

I will throw in my 2 cents. A suicider is a coward. Nothing in life is hard enough that you need to end it yourself. Theres always help out there. If you are at rock bottom, the only way to go is up


and if we are talking about suiciding in the game...still a coward. he can't compete so resorts to low tactics to get his way.

IMO what Blaa did this set was great. He declared at the start of the set he was making a nation to war. and you all got waxed until many of you ganged up on them.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 15:39
eh true :P

I will throw in my 2 cents. A suicider is a coward. Nothing in life is hard enough that you need to end it yourself. Theres always help out there. If you are at rock bottom, the only way to go is up

I guess I'm talking more about the actual act itself - how do you pluck up the courage to put a bullet in your head. It's absolutely true that if you're at rock bottom, then the only way to go is up, but try explaining it to someone at rock bottom :P

edit: melloncolly, there can be lots of reason why someone can't compete - lack of skill, lack of time, lack of friends to help out in a war etc etc, why do you assume that a person is automatically a coward?

MellonColly
08-15-2012, 15:47
I guess I'm talking more about the actual act itself - how do you pluck up the courage to put a bullet in your head. It's absolutely true that if you're at rock bottom, then the only way to go is up, but try explaining it to someone at rock bottom :P

lets just say I wouldn't want you talking me down from a ledge if you told me that what I was doing was very courageus of me :P

heyneken
08-15-2012, 15:52
lets just say I wouldn't want you talking me down from a ledge if you told me that what I was doing was very courageus of me :P

i would so totally talk you down if i wanted to! :sleep:

MellonColly
08-15-2012, 15:54
i would so totally talk you down if i wanted to! :sleep:

dawww :crying:

Divine Intervention
08-15-2012, 16:15
Have you put any thought into how many members might have left because of you? But then again, like I said, you probably don't belong to that list.

I honestly cant remember sets where I warred like the Made set. As i said, most of the nations I led were netting nations....many of them were set winning nations and got into the record books, that is before all the networths started jumping up and up with all the game changes. The only time I warred was usually as revenge for suicides/unwarranted wars against me, or to help an ally out in an unfair war. Made was a special set in special circumstances. What Im trying to say, is that I rarely went about ****ing up peoples sets....atleast from what I can remember...I havent played this game in a while...but I can look in NW portal and list the tags I can still see there and say whether they were war ones or not...putting that into consideration, with the fact that Im always trying to recruit people, train people and get people back out of retirement, id say that the overall contribution is positive :p Also, as much of a bad history I used to have with max (id say maybe a fifth of my forum posts were arguments with him on forums), I dont think he makes many people quit the game :P Hes a soldier, keeps slugging along, soaking up all the crap that people keep throwing at him :D Sure he winds somepeople up, but if that makes someone quit, well, babies then :D im sure theres as ignore list function soemwhere here :D




IMO what Blaa did this set was great. He declared at the start of the set he was making a nation to war. and you all got waxed until many of you ganged up on them.

I dont remember him declaring it was a war nation??? He said the name was just a historical homage to his Domi nation. But i dont remember him saying it was a war tag. Anyway, maybe he did, maybe he didnt. But this isnt too new. I made a nation once called Shock Value (basically a merger of my guys + some LoR people). I announced that we would democratically vote on who the targets would be. We got gang banged by Sky, USA and ICN that set :) Was a good war, I'm sure some of you remember it (the quote in my sig is from the massive thread about it).


Compared to what usually gets talked about here? It's somewhat refreshing. Haven't had a good argument here in ages :)

you miss the historical debates we used to have :D? i cant remember my stances back then, but I hope they were too pro communist. Ive very anti communist / anti goverment in general these days :p

Will
08-15-2012, 16:18
How times change:P I'm pretty much communist now.

Divine Intervention
08-15-2012, 17:17
when is eleet declaring peace?

heyneken
08-15-2012, 18:58
as soon as blaa sobers up

::LD::GrimReapr
08-15-2012, 19:45
Still cowards. I understand martydom, to die fighting, but taking your life willingly is in my book cowardice. Life is beautiful and we all have but one. It`s disrespectful to all the people who die of illness and in accidents, to take your life while others were plunged from this world and would give everything to stay alive. Suicide is the greatest offense you could ever commit.

This is the post I fully agree with you on Max.

heyneken
08-15-2012, 20:07
This is the post I fully agree with you on Max.

I agree, very profound. Teared up a bit when I read it :'(

Divine Intervention
08-16-2012, 01:51
as soon as blaa sobers up

well hes sober enough to browse the forums as I see him logged in....but not sober enough to declare peace? I know hes not the only one with F priv in eleet....?

Max Logan
08-16-2012, 03:08
Yes, I assume you're a coward. In what world could I possibly prove that by facts? It's my opinion of you. Doesn't change my logical set-up.

So, I'm a coward because I didn't let you know upfront that I would be attacking you? In a war game. And that's a fact by your standards? Do you have any idea how retarded that deduction sounds?

Could say the same, you have absolutely no facts. But read some of Will's post; imo he explains rather clearly why suiciders are not cowards. And didn't Anton already clear that the Tunisia guy was not me? C-c-c-can I l.o.l. now?

When did I ever say it's necessary to kill oneself to be brave?

You provide no facts, no logic arguments, you give assumptions as truths and you expect to make a decent argument out of it? You admitted you have no valid facts, no real background to base you logic upon, whilst I have a whole game history behind my argument, you own recent game history, blaas and this set suiciders, upon which I conclude that suiciders are cowards (you and blaa not declaring, jumping-hitting-dieing for no cause; this sets suicides on Grim, which I never said was you). Hence for you have no claim to make and have no argument, while I do.

Which means - your argument is false, and mine is not. Better luck next time!

::LD::GrimReapr
08-16-2012, 03:26
So in conclusion, people like grim, max, anton, devildog and other people with an iq below the legal retardation limit are actually the ones ruining this game. Why do you think the memberbase has shrunk to like 50 players? Duh.

edit: anton doesn't really belong to that list, I think he's pretty smart and witty etc, but I just dislike him yo.

If people like Max,DD and I are making members leave why did it pick up when we first came back and started all the ruckus? If its people like DD and I making members leave why hasn't it grown to huge proportions while we were gone Mr.Genius? If we are so disliked by the community an you and blaa are favored why is it that we have people asking to join us just to kill you 2 smart guys? I'm guessing it isn't because your intellect is over powering and making people jealous just because your smart. Maybe you should use that big brain of yours and figure out why so many people hate you.

Max Logan
08-16-2012, 03:39
We clearly livened the game up when we started to fight 'infantry hoarding'. Though for me it was more the thrill of warring as I`d consider myself a hoarder :p
But whatever our reasons we really made a difference and brought more life in game and on forums!

heyneken
08-16-2012, 07:22
You provide no facts, no logic arguments, you give assumptions as truths and you expect to make a decent argument out of it? You admitted you have no valid facts, no real background to base you logic upon, whilst I have a whole game history behind my argument, you own recent game history, blaas and this set suiciders, upon which I conclude that suiciders are cowards (you and blaa not declaring, jumping-hitting-dieing for no cause; this sets suicides on Grim, which I never said was you). Hence for you have no claim to make and have no argument, while I do.

Which means - your argument is false, and mine is not. Better luck next time!

You know that calling someone a coward is a subjective argument? I, neither you, can prove it. I attacked you last set - you call it suicide (whatever), but I don't see it as a cowardly action. You see it as that way, but you can't prove it, just like I can't prove otherwise. So maybe cut the bullshit and stop saying you have real facts. lol


If people like Max,DD and I are making members leave why did it pick up when we first came back and started all the ruckus? If its people like DD and I making members leave why hasn't it grown to huge proportions while we were gone Mr.Genius? If we are so disliked by the community an you and blaa are favored why is it that we have people asking to join us just to kill you 2 smart guys?

1. It picked up because I started playing again.
2. It hasn't grown to huge proportions, because all the members left when you were still playing before, and they don't wanna come back anymore. Also, it's a shitty game. Inb4 'why do you play it then?' I just do, deal with it.
3. Me and blaa are the 1%, and everybody hates us because they want to be like us - sexy, smart and overall awesome. You know how the saying goes: if you can't join them, beat them..or uhm whatever.

Max Logan
08-16-2012, 08:03
You know that calling someone a coward is a subjective argument? I, neither you, can prove it. I attacked you last set - you call it suicide (whatever), but I don't see it as a cowardly action. You see it as that way, but you can't prove it, just like I can't prove otherwise. So maybe cut the bullshit and stop saying you have real facts. lol

I do have real facts. And I can prove it. You DID suicide me last set without declaration and cause knowing you will die, blaa DID suicided twice last set without cause knowing he will die, the suicider on Grim DELETED himself after he killed him to. If we look back in NW history every suicider was a coward who could not have taken the fight to their target so they resort to suicide and get killed afterwards. Those are FACTS. All happened within the game, all witnessed by the community. Unlike your 'assumptions' and 'subjective arguments'. For someone who thinks so highly of himself, you really lack any concept of debate and argument. Sorry, but you`re getting more pathetic by the hour.

P.s. using ' lol ' at the end of every argument does not make you right/'cool' by default. It`s childish, do be a man.

heyneken
08-16-2012, 08:38
I do have real facts. And I can prove it. You DID suicide me last set without declaration and cause knowing you will die, blaa DID suicided twice last set without cause knowing he will die, the suicider on Grim DELETED himself after he killed him to. If we look back in NW history every suicider was a coward who could not have taken the fight to their target so they resort to suicide and get killed afterwards. Those are FACTS. All happened within the game, all witnessed by the community. Unlike your 'assumptions' and 'subjective arguments'. For someone who thinks so highly of himself, you really lack any concept of debate and argument. Sorry, but you`re getting more pathetic by the hour.

P.s. using ' lol ' at the end of every argument does not make you right/'cool' by default. It`s childish, do be a man.

Do you even know what the word coward stands for? It's a fact that if you attack someone without a war declaration you're a coward? So, I attacked you because I was afraid? Yeah, sounds like a legit argument. lol

Dogma
08-16-2012, 08:49
1. It picked up because I started playing again.
2. It hasn't grown to huge proportions, because all the members left when you were still playing before, and they don't wanna come back anymore. Also, it's a shitty game. Inb4 'why do you play it then?' I just do, deal with it.
3. Me and blaa are the 1%, and everybody hates us because they want to be like us - sexy, smart and overall awesome. You know how the saying goes: if you can't join them, beat them..or uhm whatever.

They do make medications for the condition from which you seem to be suffering. Also, counseling helps, they can do remarkable things with the delusions of grandeur you are exhibiting.

heyneken
08-16-2012, 09:15
They do make medications for the condition from which you seem to be suffering. Also, counseling helps, they can do remarkable things with the delusions of grandeur you are exhibiting.

Drugs are nwo, no thanks.

DBozMen
08-16-2012, 09:17
They do make medications for the condition from which you seem to be suffering. Also, counseling helps, they can do remarkable things with the delusions of grandeur you are exhibiting.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dogma again. :-(

blaa
08-16-2012, 12:58
here's a thought

if us taking out an inactive nation made (pun intended) anton&co hit us 24h later, because they are allies and whatnot. Then why didn't they attack us when we attacked DEAD in the first place?

they were planning to attack us all week long? makes anton look nice, because he sent me that cute message.

clip
08-16-2012, 13:21
We clearly livened the game up when we started to fight 'infantry hoarding'. Though for me it was more the thrill of warring as I`d consider myself a hoarder :p
But whatever our reasons we really made a difference and brought more life in game and on forums!

"infantry hoarding" is biggest suiciding reason. Thanks to this crap all this shit going on in there.

ukurasmus
08-16-2012, 14:47
"infantry hoarding" is biggest suiciding reason. Thanks to this crap all this shit going on in there.
I second! Me no like people telling me how to play this game. For me it is more than enough of a reason to go and kill the person who publicly declares here in the forums that he will attack everybody who has only infantry.

EDIT: Let me clarify a bit. If I get warred by competitors from top spot or dangering top spot then it is ok to use my weaknesses, but if the one warring me is of no competition then I consider this a suicide and will use all means to avenge ;)

Will
08-16-2012, 15:36
I second! Me no like people telling me how to play this game. For me it is more than enough of a reason to go and kill the person who publicly declares here in the forums that he will attack everybody who has only infantry.

EDIT: Let me clarify a bit. If I get warred by competitors from top spot or dangering top spot then it is ok to use my weaknesses, but if the one warring me is of no competition then I consider this a suicide and will use all means to avenge ;)

What if they're a stocker who could out net you?

ukurasmus
08-16-2012, 16:25
What if they're a stocker who could out net you?
If my opponent is first and I am a stocker capable of out netting him and he attacks me, that is OK, because we are both competitors for top spot. If my opponent was a top 20 player and I had enough stock to jump top 1 and he attacked me then that I would consider meaningless screwing of my set and I would avenge. If not the same set then I'd find a way to screw him and everyone involved the next or one after the next set.
Of course, if the top 20 player was in a nation with somebody who's playing for top 1, then it'd be a meaningful attack on me, because he is helping his nation mate reach top 1 and I find this pretty ok. Might respond with a war, but would not carry this on to any future sets.

Now to your question. If I was a 'hoarder' and there would be a stocker capable of out netting me, then why should the stocker attack me? He could just out net me and use me for land farming. If I was known as an aggressive player fighting my way to the top 1 and after the stocker's jump I would still be dangerous to him, then yes, it would be justified to knock me out of the competition.

But those not capable of competing for top 1 and then attacking the top players are just *******s ruining other people's set.

EDIT: Actually, I have already once explained here, what I consider meaningful playing. You might want to read the first post of this thread:
http://forums.nation-wars.com/showthread.php?94135-The-wonderiful-game-of-Nation-Wars

Divine Intervention
08-16-2012, 16:34
here's a thought

if us taking out an inactive nation made (pun intended) anton&co hit us 24h later, because they are allies and whatnot. Then why didn't they attack us when we attacked DEAD in the first place?

they were planning to attack us all week long? makes anton look nice, because he sent me that cute message.

well as I already said...at start of set I was at my countryside home. I wouldnt be able to lead a warchat even if I wanted to over here. I would have sent some states to help out...but DEAD got destroyed in 1-2 days...who was there to help? I have enough frustration trying to constantly refresh & reload facebook so i can chat to my gf...let alone having to constantly try and relogin to MSN to coordinate war. impossible. it literally is like playing on a 56k modem...except its wireless..and youre in the middle of the woods, 120km + away from city....you get the idea of what our internet / tv / phone connection is like.

when you hit WLF howveer...I was in the city (SPB - here ironically we have better internet connection than in UK). We arrived on Sunday because on Monday I had to go to the police to get my renewed Russian internal passport. We then stayed in the city till Wednesday because my auntie had her 2nd baby son and we wanted to welcome him into our home (theyre living at our place whilst we stay in UK)...however the release kept getting delayed and delayed...eventually from Tuesday to Friday. We couldnt wait that long and left to go back to our countryside home...

however dont worry...im going back to the city in a few days ;-)

dont worry there was no long term conspiracy to hit you. the last time me and dave talked was on the 9th of August. As I said, I had no plans to war you, why would i? i had a great set going, could have prob made #3...if goods were on PM. but what you did to WLF and Benji made me lose all faith in you. And its not that hard to get 3 guys to jump in with 200 + turns. I was telling my players to always try and play on 200-300 turns to be ready at moments notice. I know you could claim that this is fake but I can always upload a screenshot (later, uploading several mb files takes too long here):


09.08.2012 12:46:00 Dave williams Tony isssssssssss Great I'm going to Disney over my birthday in september
09.08.2012 12:46:05 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams then i have work starting
09.08.2012 12:46:23 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams disney world?
09.08.2012 12:46:28 Dave williams Tony isssssssssss Great Yea
09.08.2012 12:46:31 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams i went like 8-10 times
09.08.2012 12:46:32 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams when i was a kid
09.08.2012 12:46:35 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams and we lived in america
09.08.2012 12:46:42 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams water world (?) was amazing
09.08.2012 12:46:44 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams not part of disney
09.08.2012 12:46:47 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams but so great
09.08.2012 12:46:59 Dave williams Tony isssssssssss Great I've been there about 6-8 in the last 7 years
09.08.2012 12:55:55 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams u have kids?
09.08.2012 13:02:32 Dave williams Tony isssssssssss Great Yea 2 boys one is 13 the other is 8
09.08.2012 13:05:10 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams bet they loved it :P
09.08.2012 13:05:24 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams unless u were going just for yourself :D?
12.08.2012 20:52:28 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams **** this. Blaa declared on WLF and Benjoi
12.08.2012 20:52:38 Tony isssssssssss Great Dave williams Wtf. im gonna try and hit him tomorrow.


Then me and Dave talk about what to do with you, Dave suggests waiting till Thursday...clearly this was not an option for me since I was going to leave back to countryside by then...not to mention the fact that theres no way you guys would have continued netting peacefully afterwards...you are afterall cashers...warring without cashing (no readiness loss killing inactive stockers) is really damaging to set....you would have continued warring. Now lets see...who would have been next? USA or LoR who you claimed to like in your first set? Or the nation that is led by the person who foiled your plans to destroy WLF last time? .so I grabbed 2 player (180-200 turns each or so) and myself...and joined in the fun.

So yeah...I dunno if GRIM had any plans for you....if they did, they didnt involve me in them, so there was no conspiracy against you. Just your own actions bringing about your demise.

blaa
08-17-2012, 03:28
nice story about your life, stopped reading after "at start of set I was at my countryside home" just to skip to the part about my demise.

Don't worry about me my russian brother!

Divine Intervention
08-17-2012, 07:37
nice story about your life, stopped reading after "at start of set I was at my countryside home" just to skip to the part about my demise.

Don't worry about me my russian brother!

oh its okay, you dont have to read it blaa. just theres no point trying to paint me out as a bad guy. everything i said was true. you chose to hit WLF at the worst time possible for you. there was no conspiracy against you blaa. youre your own worst enemy.

blaa
08-17-2012, 09:24
oh good, i have weak enemies

Divine Intervention
08-17-2012, 11:32
oh good, i have weak enemies

heh. well you can look at it any way you want...but if you have some spare time, try and increase your grasp of english language rather than trying to be witty. You should perfectly understand that that phrase means that the reason why you get into trouble and **** up is because of your actions...not becaue theres some evil conspiracy to hate you.

blaa
08-18-2012, 12:09
you suck mooseballs

Dogma
08-18-2012, 13:26
you suck mooseballs

Is that anything like gooseberries?

MAGGIO
08-18-2012, 13:26
the reason why you get into trouble and **** up is because of your actions...not becaue theres some evil conspiracy to hate you.

+1

almanbulls
08-19-2012, 21:54
HOE? DEAD?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAAHHAHAHHHHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HHAHHAHAHA.
HOE AND HIS SAD LIFE.
HE WAS BORN. HIS MOMMY DIED. DOCTORS DIED. EVERYONE DID. HE USED THE INTERNET TO BLOCK HIS FACE. HE EATS
TWINKIES ALL DAY. HE LIKES MEN. EVERYONE HATES HIM. HE WAYS OVER 10000 POUNDS AND 4'10 CHUBBESTER AT AGE 42.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg
CHANGE THE PART TO LIVES WITH HIS MOM AT 42 TO NO ONE.

Max Logan
08-20-2012, 12:37
I like Hoe, he`s entertaining!

Achilles
08-20-2012, 18:49
HOE? DEAD?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAAHHAHAHHHHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HHAHHAHAHA.
HOE AND HIS SAD LIFE.
HE WAS BORN. HIS MOMMY DIED. DOCTORS DIED. EVERYONE DID. HE USED THE INTERNET TO BLOCK HIS FACE. HE EATS
TWINKIES ALL DAY. HE LIKES MEN. EVERYONE HATES HIM. HE WAYS OVER 10000 POUNDS AND 4'10 CHUBBESTER AT AGE 42.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg
CHANGE THE PART TO LIVES WITH HIS MOM AT 42 TO NO ONE.

Did i just hear a deathwish?

Dogma
08-20-2012, 19:06
Did i just hear a deathwish?

He has been begging for it all set. LOL Sure it may be obliged soon enough.

Divine Intervention
08-20-2012, 20:33
Did i just hear a deathwish?

sadly hes not worth the turns mate.

Dogma
08-21-2012, 08:25
sadly hes not worth the turns mate.

Agreed

MAGGIO
08-21-2012, 13:55
so who won this war? look at the stats, look at the scenerio and speak your mind...

Divine Intervention
08-21-2012, 14:45
so who won this war? look at the stats, look at the scenerio and speak your mind...

who knows, maybe eleet are planning a CS ;-)? stats could still change! i think it was a good effort on both sides. eleet did a v.good FS (even if it was against quite weak states early on in set) and had a good stonewalling effort multiple times.

MAGGIO
08-21-2012, 17:20
its weird because eleet declared peace instead of killing restarts, and then dead did the same thing...

the only reason why dead was able to get a good FS on the second go around was because eleet gave them a pass on the first... was that a good move on blaa's part?

its like saying "go ahead and hit me in the face" and then you get knocked out. does the knock out count because you let him hit you in the face? still got knocked out regardless meaning the outcome is what it is regardless of the journey...

personal thought it dead peaced eleet not because of being gracious but because of a possible threat elsewhere.

I was just looking at the scores chart and was looking at NW Killed, and avg NW killed and States Killed and was just wondering what is the qualifier here

ukurasmus
08-21-2012, 18:01
was that a good move on blaa's part?

Nope, should've kept beating the handicapped. It's called honor and peace treaty is something we respect, unlike some other people :D

heyneken
08-21-2012, 18:51
After we killed DEAD, Blaa said that he and DEAD came to an agreement of some sort that we wouldn't attack each other in this set anymore. I'm not sure how official that agreement was, but personally I was absolutely sure they would cs us. Can't trust those ****ers. :)

MAGGIO
08-21-2012, 21:56
unless it is stated on these forums for all to see then it cant be trusted IMO, and even then some are known to break the NAPs

reminds me of a fight once where one guy was on top of another and the guy on the bottom said "i give, i give" and the guy got off of him. once that happened the guy on the bottom got up and punched dude right in the face and they kept fighting. bottom line is he felt that it was no holds barred and the only way he was going to quit was to get knocked out or vise versa.

::LD::GrimReapr
08-22-2012, 01:31
After we killed DEAD, Blaa said that he and DEAD came to an agreement of some sort that we wouldn't attack each other in this set anymore. I'm not sure how official that agreement was, but personally I was absolutely sure they would cs us. Can't trust those ****ers. :)

This is what was said between blaa and
Myself I'm surprised he hasn't posted this yet.

Hello,

I am writing to you in order to make a peace.

We are not interested in prolonging this war any further.

Our peace terms:
If you accept, we will not declare to you in this set (unless u declare on
us, and i hope that wont happen).

Declare peace on us, if u agree. If not, please, lets negotiate, we can
work it out.

blaa
RE:

Hello,

I cannot declare peace for another 9 hours and 2 minutes as soon as I can I will declare peace.

Sparhawk
RE:

alright, so it's agreed.

Good luck for rest of the set.

I will declare peace now as a sign of good intentions.

blaa

I had no intention of warring you guys this set we got owned in the war.
Now on the other hand if you think I'm gonna stand by an watch you roll over my allies after you rolled over GRIM after 2 of us were suicided your crazy. We all knew you had Bratvia in your sights or you wouldn't have killed benji or cem seeing as how they were nation less.

blaa
08-22-2012, 01:39
we didn't suicide anybody in this set

::LD::GrimReapr
08-22-2012, 01:58
I second! Me no like people telling me how to play this game. For me it is more than enough of a reason to go and kill the person who publicly declares here in the forums that he will attack everybody who has only infantry.

EDIT: Let me clarify a bit. If I get warred by competitors from top spot or dangering top spot then it is ok to use my weaknesses, but if the one warring me is of no competition then I consider this a suicide and will use all means to avenge ;)

Let me clarify something. I would come on the forums and ***** about infantry hoarding and I would be told that if I don't like it do something about it. So I did. Now you ***** cause I'm telling you how to play. I'm not telling you how to play I'm telling you how I'm gonna play. You feel that me aaing someone that doesn't have ships is wrong cause it's a war attack outside of war. I feel the SA is a bigger war attack because not only do you kill my troops but you also steal my land to boot. If you wanna keep upkeep cost down to pillage me For land so you can get higher then I don't mind aaing you for my land back if all you have is infantry. You talk about that being suicide to me not having the proper defense or defensive units is suicide and inviting trouble. I told you months ago I'm not
Going anywhere so love it or hate it you dont wanna be AAed when just carrying infantry don't grab me for land.

::LD::GrimReapr
08-22-2012, 02:24
we didn't suicide anybody in this set

Nobody said you did. I personally think you had something to do with it though. Btw when will you respond or add DD or I to your msn we gave you both of our contact information for msn and you have not responded. He has also messaged you for trying to talk about peace but you will not acknowledge his messages.

ukurasmus
08-22-2012, 03:42
Let me clarify something. I would come on the forums and ***** about infantry hoarding and I would be told that if I don't like it do something about it. So I did. Now you ***** cause I'm telling you how to play. I'm not telling you how to play I'm telling you how I'm gonna play. You feel that me aaing someone that doesn't have ships is wrong cause it's a war attack outside of war. I feel the SA is a bigger war attack because not only do you kill my troops but you also steal my land to boot. If you wanna keep upkeep cost down to pillage me For land so you can get higher then I don't mind aaing you for my land back if all you have is infantry. You talk about that being suicide to me not having the proper defense or defensive units is suicide and inviting trouble. I told you months ago I'm not
Going anywhere so love it or hate it you dont wanna be AAed when just carrying infantry don't grab me for land.

And following that you expect to achieve peace with blaa? :D

EDIT: Long term peace ;)

DevilDog
08-22-2012, 04:30
And following that you expect to achieve peace with blaa? :D

EDIT: Long term peace ;)

Peace talks were offered for the benefit of those in your nation that may want to net instead of warring all of the time. Not us, so don't go acting as if we really give a shit if you ever get to net again. Anyway Blaa has decided to go another route apparently. Another thing who said anything about LONG TERM peace?

As far as what LD said where's the problem? What the **** did he say that's so hard for you to understand? I get the fact that even your "broken English" is broken but come on!!!

blaa
08-22-2012, 04:46
I have replied to your messages. I added you to msn (I'm the blaa7@myemailserviceprovider.ee if that wasn't a good enough hint). Life has come between me and nw lately, I'll try to fix it as soon as I can. I would write all about my life in detail, but I fear my life is no way as interesting as having a vacation with my mom in a forrest, so I'll save you from that.

Anywho.

You said SA is an incredibly hostile attack. This is where our opinions contradict once again :D. I made a post explaining why I think SA is a symbiosis between attacker and defender, I hope this post maybe explains why I strongly believe that SA is not a hostile attack. I believe doing SAs takes one skill, but receiving SAs at a tolerable level and not losing much land, is another skill, and perhaps even a more complex one.

Ok, not really a long post, perhaps I should try to do a better job next time, anyway, here's the post: http://forums.nation-wars.com/showthread.php?94179-Suicider-Suggestions&p=182678&highlight=#post182678

heyneken
08-22-2012, 05:23
Peace talks were offered for the benefit of those in your nation that may want to net instead of warring all of the time. Not us, so don't go acting as if we really give a shit if you ever get to net again. Anyway Blaa has decided to go another route apparently. Another thing who said anything about LONG TERM peace?

As far as what LD said where's the problem? What the **** did he say that's so hard for you to understand? I get the fact that even your "broken English" is broken but come on!!!

Implying we ourselves give a shit if we ever get to net again. We have proven time after time that we're the best netters :cool:

heyneken
08-22-2012, 05:26
#noobs #lowskill #yolo #dealwithit

::LD::GrimReapr
08-22-2012, 08:20
#hiney#mouth#poop#toilet paper# all clean now we can go about our business it's been taken care of.

Divine Intervention
08-22-2012, 08:46
I fear my life is no way as interesting as having a vacation with my mom in a forrest, so I'll save you from that.

hey dont make fun of me :p I havent been to Russia in 3-4 years, and this was part of the deal that gained me a trip to visit my best friend in Kazahstan and + another holiday after that ;-).

MellonColly
08-22-2012, 09:19
hey dont make fun of me :p I havent been to Russia in 3-4 years, and this was part of the deal that gained me a trip to visit my best friend in Kazahstan and + another holiday after that ;-).

i lol'd tho when i read what blah posted :P

heyneken
08-22-2012, 09:59
#hiney#mouth#poop#toilet paper# all clean now we can go about our business it's been taken care of.
You're doing it wrong. :blush:

Divine Intervention
08-22-2012, 10:25
i lol'd tho when i read what blah posted :P

i know no one cares about it, but if i didnt explain myself, blaa would be sitting there thinking that theres some great conspiracy against him. hey, were all close here :D after all most of us know each other for like 5+ years.

almanbulls
08-22-2012, 17:01
HOE? DEAD?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAAHHAHAHHHHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HHAHHAHAHA.
HOE AND HIS SAD LIFE.
HE WAS BORN. HIS MOMMY DIED. DOCTORS DIED. EVERYONE DID. HE USED THE INTERNET TO BLOCK HIS FACE. HE EATS
TWINKIES ALL DAY. HE LIKES MEN. EVERYONE HATES HIM. HE WAYS OVER 10000 POUNDS AND 4'10 CHUBBESTER AT AGE 42.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg
CHANGE THE PART TO LIVES WITH HIS MOM AT 42 TO NO ONE.
Great Quote. Clap Clap! I actually gave up this game because I had to go on a cruise and I would lose turns after 300 and bonus turns. Next round I shall be better.

MAGGIO
08-26-2012, 15:03
so its back on?

::LD::GrimReapr
08-26-2012, 15:16
its on like Donkey Kong!!

Divine Intervention
08-26-2012, 15:39
ooh last day strike. rightio! hope you enjoyed GAing 300m population. I knew you guys would do something like this.

Bright
08-26-2012, 16:09
It was all good until you posted "#yolo". You must now die.

heyneken
08-26-2012, 16:25
It was all good until you posted "#yolo". You must now die.

Hey, everybody dies, so no worries. #yolo

bigstink
08-26-2012, 16:27
So I hop back into grim to boost there networth and what do I get... Dead. This game is absolute shit and you can bet your sweet *** I will never be logging in here to play again. Thank you for ****ing up my best set ever. You can take your 40+ mem ber game and stick it. I I thought blizzard operated games in a ****ed up way but this game absolutely takes the cake. **** you NW!

MAGGIO
08-26-2012, 17:25
So I hop back into grim to boost there networth and what do I get... Dead. This game is absolute shit and you can bet your sweet *** I will never be logging in here to play again. Thank you for ****ing up my best set ever. You can take your 40+ mem ber game and stick it. I I thought blizzard operated games in a ****ed up way but this game absolutely takes the cake. **** you NW!

you lie!

heyneken
08-26-2012, 18:02
So I hop back into grim to boost there networth and what do I get... Dead. This game is absolute shit and you can bet your sweet *** I will never be logging in here to play again. Thank you for ****ing up my best set ever. You can take your 40+ mem ber game and stick it. I I thought blizzard operated games in a ****ed up way but this game absolutely takes the cake. **** you NW!

#tigerblood

MAGGIO
08-26-2012, 20:14
sucks it was the next to last day...given a few more days DEAD could have wiped out the rest of eleet i think.

Benjidatramp
08-26-2012, 21:33
Pretty lame to strike on last day of the set for nothing.... Only means bad blood will remain next set. But I guess neither nation were going to win the round.. Just means my restart will finish higher :D

MAGGIO
08-26-2012, 21:58
hey nothing is beneath the mighty blaa

off the record I can assume that DEAD left eleet AND icn alone for the remainder of the set so tehre would be no bad blood carried over....

blaa
08-27-2012, 00:12
ohhhh maggioo!!!!!

how is this strike for nothing? have a look at the nation scores page, we are leading in the 'most nw killed' category! so worth it.

MAGGIO
08-27-2012, 00:21
I did notice... so as it stands so far you have the most NW Killed and the most Kills. Unfortunately you had to wait till 36hrs left in the round. If you had the balllls you would have struck a few days earlier and let the whole game see who could have done what.

It doesnt hold as much weight when you play like that. I dont think you will see a lineup of non involved nations and players applauding you on this.

will it be worth it if you get all your members killed for the next few sets (if that is the case)?

::LD::GrimReapr
08-27-2012, 00:27
We had no intention of warring anyone this set but it is what it is. We will do what we can with the amount of time left and have fun doing it. Blaa has made it personal with GRIM the last 2 sets and that's fine with me. Blaa is the one that has the friends that like to net. We here in GRIM for the most part don't care. The gauntlet has been thrown down and we will answer the call. Let's get it on.

Divine Intervention
08-27-2012, 00:39
We had no intention of warring anyone this set but it is what it is. We will do what we can with the amount of time left and have fun doing it. Blaa has made it personal with GRIM the last 2 sets and that's fine with me. Blaa is the one that has the friends that like to net. We here in GRIM for the most part don't care. The gauntlet has been thrown down and we will answer the call. Let's get it on.

lol these guys are just massive trolls. look at them with their twitter hash tags. its a bit embaressing. im genuinly surprised these guys think that they will get away with this - probably thought they were being super sneaky when infact their intentions were well known, we were just feeling too sorry to wipe them out again. the only thing im sorry about is that Morodon will probably accept these guys into Sky next set and as a result will have to suffer for their actions when they get wiped out from their top3 attempts.

anyway, no worries, the night life of Almaty is good enough even on sundays to not feel upset about this ;-)

Max Logan
08-27-2012, 02:41
Guess it`s over for blaa and hiney, no more top finishes. cuz if DEAD don`t kill you, Anton will.

::LD::GrimReapr
08-27-2012, 03:04
Melloncolly and Kenneth are gonna get bored fighting each other for top spot all the time.

blaa
08-27-2012, 03:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x__9qYCNMQ

you reap what you sow

ukurasmus
08-27-2012, 04:02
lol these guys are just massive trolls. look at them with their twitter hash tags. its a bit embaressing. im genuinly surprised these guys think that they will get away with this - probably thought they were being super sneaky when infact their intentions were well known, we were just feeling too sorry to wipe them out again. the only thing im sorry about is that Morodon will probably accept these guys into Sky next set and as a result will have to suffer for their actions when they get wiped out from their top3 attempts.

anyway, no worries, the night life of Almaty is good enough even on sundays to not feel upset about this ;-)

Uhm, weren't you the one who striked us first? I believe this is a fact, everything else is just assumptions with only emotional proof. Plus, I don't mind warring you set after set - you, at least, are a decent opponent to fight with ;)


We had no intention of warring anyone this set but it is what it is. We will do what we can with the amount of time left and have fun doing it. Blaa has made it personal with GRIM the last 2 sets and that's fine with me. Blaa is the one that has the friends that like to net. We here in GRIM for the most part don't care. The gauntlet has been thrown down and we will answer the call. Let's get it on.
Too bad, unfortunately we thought we were in peace with you after the FS and therefore started our world dominance plan, but you decided to start messing around again. Take a look at those who are dead in DEAD now and figure out what they have in common ;)

you reap what you sow

Divine Intervention
08-27-2012, 04:34
Too bad, unfortunately we thought we were in peace with you after the FS and therefore started our world dominance plan, but you decided to start messing around again. Take a look at those who are dead in DEAD now and figure out what they have in common ;)

you reap what you sow

well Pedrow didnt do anything. im not too bothered that you guys killed me. Thats why i wasnt going 100percent ships and trying to get as balanced state as possiblle and stayed in DEAD rather than going back. If i knew Mart would be a dirty little liar though, would have gotten much more infantry rather than ships. the only thing that im surprised about is that you guys left it till so late. were you afraid youd get wiped out if you hit earlier? as i said, youre too obvious to be cunning (hmm...lvl8 infantry till last 2 days of set? lol come on)..

p.s. its not assumptions if you guys admitted it, not that it matters.

also, who aren't decent opponents? DEAD? well its hard to be a decent opponent when you get hit at start of set and get all your 5-7k land indy states GAed.

ukurasmus
08-27-2012, 05:01
well Pedrow didnt do anything. Tag jumped into our enemy

If i knew Mart would be a dirty little liar though, would have gotten much more infantry rather than ships. Well, shit happens, we thought we were in peace with DEAD too :D

the only thing that im surprised about is that you guys left it till so late. were you afraid youd get wiped out if you hit earlier? as i said, youre too obvious to be cunning (hmm...lvl8 infantry till last 2 days of set? lol come on). We took Maggio's advice of not giving our opponent much possibilities to retaliate

p.s. its not assumptions if you guys admitted it, not that it matters. I agree, it doesn't actually matter :D

also, who aren't decent opponents? DEAD? No comments

well its hard to be a decent opponent when you get hit at start of set and get all your 5-7k land indy states GAed. A little more infantry would help ;)

heyneken
08-27-2012, 05:11
I did notice... so as it stands so far you have the most NW Killed and the most Kills. Unfortunately you had to wait till 36hrs left in the round. If you had the balllls you would have struck a few days earlier and let the whole game see who could have done what.

It doesnt hold as much weight when you play like that. I dont think you will see a lineup of non involved nations and players applauding you on this.

will it be worth it if you get all your members killed for the next few sets (if that is the case)?

You jumptag-warred us and you're talking about balls? :cool: Anyway, I probably won't net ever again and just war you guys every set for the upcoming years, have fun PT:::

DBozMen
08-27-2012, 05:59
Come on! Warring on the last day..... Have some balls and do it 3 days before end, so they have the time to hit back.

Now it's just weak attempt to save your "great" warring round.

Max Logan
08-27-2012, 07:37
Uhm, weren't you the one who striked us first? I believe this is a fact, everything else is just assumptions with only emotional proof.

I`m pretty sure eleet started this first. but your facts must be more right then the game GE.

Divine Intervention
08-27-2012, 07:48
I`m pretty sure eleet started this first. but your facts must be more right then the game GE.

think hes talking about the set Made declared war on ICN + UB (whilst still being at war with USA at that point, i think? maybe not though). Either way, we didnt declare on 1 smaller tag at a time, like eleet did with WLF this set :-/.

p.s. ****, wanted to get the kill on Heyne with my 150 OOP turn restart, but left him on 8 land with no turns left :'(

Max Logan
08-27-2012, 08:46
think hes talking about the set Made declared war on ICN + UB (whilst still being at war with USA at that point, i think? maybe not though). Either way, we didnt declare on 1 smaller tag at a time, like eleet did with WLF this set :-/.

p.s. ****, wanted to get the kill on Heyne with my 150 OOP turn restart, but left him on 8 land with no turns left :'(

wtf do those sets have to do with this set?

Divine Intervention
08-27-2012, 09:12
wtf do those sets have to do with this set?

i dont know! but its their reason. as i said, i dont mind getting killed, i helped DEAD out and I stayed there to soak up any attacks that others might wanted to throw at them later on in set.

blaa
08-27-2012, 10:39
he meant that after our war with dead and wlf, u guys (anton) joined in, therefor techinally got a FS.

ukurasmus
08-27-2012, 12:59
I`m pretty sure eleet started this first. but your facts must be more right then the game GE.
Oh Maxie, my dear, you clearly didn't read/think enough again. My personal goal was to give a cold wind breeze to the tag jumpers. Unfortunately, some of them still remain to be taught. No hard feelings towards DEAD and their restarts :)

Max Logan
08-27-2012, 13:12
Oh Maxie, my dear, you clearly didn't read/think enough again. My personal goal was to give a cold wind breeze to the tag jumpers. Unfortunately, some of them still remain to be taught. No hard feelings towards DEAD and their restarts :)

I`m pretty sure you said they started and gave it as a fact. Whereby the real truth is eleet did the first declaration and FS of the set, hence, started 'it'. Whatever happened afterwards is meaningless to your statement and hereby, does not contribute to the statement that DEAD started 'it'. 'It' was started when eleet FSed DEAD earlier in the set. That`s a fact.

You can call me Maxie, dear, sonny, it still does not change the fact you were wrong. Again.

ukurasmus
08-27-2012, 13:15
I`m pretty sure you said they started and gave it as a fact. Whereby the real truth is eleet did the first declaration and FS of the set, hence, started 'it'. Whatever happened afterwards is meaningless to your statement and hereby, does not contribute to the statement that DEAD started 'it'. 'It' was started when eleet FSed DEAD earlier in the set. That`s a fact.

You can call me Maxie, dear, sonny, it still does not change the fact you were wrong. Again.

You do know that you're becoming annoying, my little troll :D


Too bad, unfortunately we thought we were in peace with you after the FS and therefore started our world dominance plan, but you decided to start messing around again.

See the AGAIN above? :D

Divine Intervention
08-27-2012, 15:14
#awkwardmomentwheneleethavemoreFSandstillgetownedi nCS.

sorry not sober, just happy to see more kills ;-)

YOU might have more NW killed, but honestly, after this round, no one is going to have a higher opinion of your warring skills. therehave been sets, where estos have owned in warring, but this wasnt oneof them.

MAGGIO
08-27-2012, 16:06
#awkwardmomentwheneleethavemoreFSandstillgetownedi nCS.

sorry not sober, just happy to see more kills ;-)

YOU might have more NW killed, but honestly, after this round, no one is going to have a higher opinion of your warring skills. therehave been sets, where estos have owned in warring, but this wasnt oneof them.

two cheap shots in the same set from eleet only to end up back firering to an extent on the heels of blaa suiciding last set. lol, what a joke of a leader and player. #nohonor

you might as well go back to suiciding next set blaa because you only put other members in danger when they tag up with you.

Max Logan
08-27-2012, 16:58
You do know that you're becoming annoying, my little troll :D

See the AGAIN above? :D

Don`t be so upset. Your mental capacity is sure to improve given time and proper education.

heyneken
08-27-2012, 17:51
two cheap shots in the same set from eleet only to end up back firering to an extent on the heels of blaa suiciding last set. lol, what a joke of a leader and player. #nohonor

you might as well go back to suiciding next set blaa because you only put other members in danger when they tag up with you.

Cheap shots? First attack on DEAD was a cheap shot? How? The second one was a cheap shot? How? You obviously had enough time to counter it, and that's a fact. The only cheap shot in this round was how bratva tagjumped to DEAD and gangbanged us. Won't call DEAD's lying to us a cheap shot, because it's just who they are and they can't help it. See you in the next set.

ukurasmus
08-27-2012, 18:06
Don`t be so upset. Your mental capacity is sure to improve given time and proper education. I was about to reply with something sarcastic again, but then I noticed that you're a Latvian :D

::LD::GrimReapr
08-27-2012, 18:19
Cheap maybe not in your book. When you attack or declare before the first week is up IMO thats cheap we always gave a week for upgrades. As I said in a previous post tho it is what it is and at the end of the day I don't care. Cheap shots lets talk cheap shots I was suicided 2-3 days in the set and so was Maggio. Did Eleet have something to do with it? Proven no, I can't prove they had something to do with it but its awfully funny 2 days later to be warred by them. So yes I fully believe Eleet was behind the suicides. I didn't lie to you I fully intended not to war you guys again that set but just as ICN did when Blaa was with them I wont let my Allies be systematically destroyed while I stand by. You cheap shotted WLF and were going for Bratvia next. Deny it all you want, you could see it coming a mile away. so Anton jumping into GRIM to help kill you was just his way of keeping his players that want to net safe.

#hineyretarded

Bright
08-27-2012, 19:34
#hineydead #yoloindeed #setisover:(

Dogma
08-27-2012, 21:19
hmmm interesting

MAGGIO
08-27-2012, 22:17
hmmm interesting

i think so too so ill be sending you a PM first days of next set.

heyneken
08-27-2012, 22:52
Cheap maybe not in your book. When you attack or declare before the first week is up IMO thats cheap we always gave a week for upgrades. As I said in a previous post tho it is what it is and at the end of the day I don't care. Cheap shots lets talk cheap shots I was suicided 2-3 days in the set and so was Maggio. Did Eleet have something to do with it? Proven no, I can't prove they had something to do with it but its awfully funny 2 days later to be warred by them. So yes I fully believe Eleet was behind the suicides. I didn't lie to you I fully intended not to war you guys again that set but just as ICN did when Blaa was with them I wont let my Allies be systematically destroyed while I stand by. You cheap shotted WLF and were going for Bratvia next. Deny it all you want, you could see it coming a mile away. so Anton jumping into GRIM to help kill you was just his way of keeping his players that want to net safe.

#hineyretarded

1) I have no idea who suicided you.
2) So it's ok to gangbang others, because you're "helping your allies", but it's not okey if ICN/LoR do it?

You can babble all you want, but at the end of the day you're just a lying hypocrite with a bad case of dysgraphia. zing

#lowskill #goeducateyourselfmaybereadabookorshitlikethatorgo andredomiddleschool #yolo

Divine Intervention
08-27-2012, 23:39
lol i dont see why eleet n00bs are complaining. 3 Bratva states were enough help for DEAD restarts to take you guys all out. How is it less of a gangbang or showing more balls if the whole tag had attacked alongside DEAD? would have simply had to satisfy their bloodlust by killing 44 and then you guys wouldnt have had any chance at all at a last day CS #reallydontunderstandyourlogicandreallyhatethatyou rmakingmeresorttoyourstupidasstwitterhashtagshitah well #yoloetc ><

MellonColly
08-27-2012, 23:42
The hash tags have become out of control in this thread. #realtalk #stop #LoUBitup!