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Divine Intervention
01-12-2013, 11:26
Enjoy expanding whole set long. Brilliant move on killing a nation with 4/5 players being n00bs (heck, even the nonn00b vet is a bit of a n00b :P :wub:). Couldn't handle them having them outnetting you? Gonna use some excuse that they were gonna help RO in some CS? You can argue for your war agaisnt RO as being a war to win #1 nation spot or w/e (in first weeek :mellow:)...fair enough we were on paper opposition....but NTG? really? thats low. And to accuse RO of being bad sportsman for not fighting back? What next? Are you going to go around and kill veeryone 1-2man tag as well? Is this what the great LoR is about? Ali seems like you should have stayed in vacation since you pretty much killed the game here. Your own members will prob quit in next 3-4 days as they get major *** bored as ****.

you talk of FA and sports man ship but did you display any here? did you show any consideration for the game? did you atleast give them a chance? heck even if they had full turns, an unapposed strike with no LoR online the maximum they could have prob killed was 8. That still leaves 10 players + of you guys to wipe them all back. but of course this is ignoring the fact that they were just trying to net to the best of their abilities. Is this fun for you?

p.s. i think the only people left now are the ex-USA states. Do you want me to provide a screen shot of my state overview to see that I haven't played one turn on my restart? Don't want you to randomly kill them too under some random pretence.

p.p.s the most hilarious tihng here is that you made your USA based players stay up till like 3am and your Euro based players wake up at like 7am to kill a bunch of n00bs? Someone needs to modify a "serious business" meme for this.

kenshin44
01-12-2013, 11:45
Enjoy expanding whole set long. Brilliant move on killing a nation with 4/5 players being n00bs (heck, even the nonn00b vet is a bit of a n00b :P :wub:). Couldn't handle them having them outnetting you? Gonna use some excuse that they were gonna help RO in some CS? You can argue for your war agaisnt RO as being a war to win #1 nation spot or w/e (in first weeek :mellow:)...fair enough we were on paper opposition....but NTG? really? thats low. And to accuse RO of being bad sportsman for not fighting back? What next? Are you going to go around and kill veeryone 1-2man tag as well? Is this what the great LoR is about? Ali seems like you should have stayed in vacation since you pretty much killed the game here. Your own members will prob quit in next 3-4 days as they get major *** bored as ****.

you talk of FA and sports man ship but did you display any here? did you show any consideration for the game? did you atleast give them a chance? heck even if they had full turns, an unapposed strike with no LoR online the maximum they could have prob killed was 8. That still leaves 10 players + of you guys to wipe them all back. but of course this is ignoring the fact that they were just trying to net to the best of their abilities. Is this fun for you?

p.s. i think the only people left now are the ex-USA states. Do you want me to provide a screen shot of my state overview to see that I haven't played one turn on my restart? Don't want you to randomly kill them too under some random pretence.

p.p.s the most hilarious tihng here is that you made your USA based players stay up till like 3am and your Euro based players wake up at like 7am to kill a bunch of n00bs? Someone needs to modify a "serious business" meme for this.


Are you planning to wage war on us? Scare away the only new people we got
playing? If this goes like I'm hearing, then we might just say good bye to
the new players, it's kinda depressing to have them warred out because
they're beginners.

Alphonso Sgroia
RE:

they are waging illicit illegal attacks. on our states. I was grabbed for over
2.5k land today alone with 6 attacks.

King Ali
RE:

Do you mind if I ask what's the amount of attacks that are not "illegal"?

Alphonso Sgroia
RE:

2-3 attacks in 32 hours is okay, or even 4

This is from one of my states

GA foundation(#271)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 480 Land /
480 Buildings 13:48:22-2013/01/10
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 494 Land /
494 Buildings 13:47:06-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 508 Land / 508
Buildings 08:42:46-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 524 Land / 524
Buildings 08:42:37-2013/01/10
GA Briu(#283)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 539 Land / 539
Buildings 06:43:02-2013/01/10
GA Briu(#283)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 554 Land / 554
Buildings 06:43:02-2013/01/10
GA unfortunate(#12)[Food] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 571 Land /
570 Buildings 23:44:10-2013/01/09
GA unfortunate(#12)[Food] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 588 Land /
587 Buildings 23:43:21-2013/01/09
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 605 Land / 604
Buildings 20:05:21-2013/01/09
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 621 Land / 620
Buildings 20:05:16-2013/01/09
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 640 Land / 639
Buildings 19:26:21-2013/01/09
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 659 Land / 658
Buildings 19:26:14-2013/01/09
GA ABCDEFG(#28)[ICN] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 677 Land /
676 Buildings 16:14:31-2013/01/09
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 696 Land / 695
Buildings 15:16:23-2013/01/09
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] NotYourPlace(#314)[LoR] 717 Land / 716
Buildings 15:13:29-2013/01/09


I believe your one state took over 4k land in 36 hours with 8 strikes, and
this is not an isolated case

GA foundation(#271)[NTG] MAGGIO(#5)[LoR] 475
Land / 149 Buildings 14:26:09-2013/01/07
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] MAGGIO(#5)[LoR] Defeat
/ $42.554.736 14:23:09-2013/01/07
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] MAGGIO(#5)[LoR] 488
Land / 153 Buildings 14:23:04-2013/01/07
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] MAGGIO(#5)[LoR] 502
Land / 157 Buildings 14:22:58-2013/01/07
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] MAGGIO(#5)[LoR] 516
Land / 162 Buildings 14:22:53-2013/01/07
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] MAGGIO(#5)[LoR] 531
Land / 166 Buildings 14:07:33-2013/01/07
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] MAGGIO(#5)[LoR] 546
Land / 171 Buildings 14:07:23-2013/01/07

GA foundation(#271)[NTG] SuckMyBallsKyle(#21)[LoR] 975 Land /
974 Buildings 00:55:27-2013/01/10
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] SuckMyBallsKyle(#21)[LoR] 1.003 Land
/ 1.002 Buildings 00:55:18-2013/01/10
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] SuckMyBallsKyle(#21)[LoR] Defeat /
$161.449.899 00:51:48-2013/01/10
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] SuckMyBallsKyle(#21)[LoR] 1.032 Land
/ 1.031 Buildings 00:51:41-2013/01/10
GA foundation(#271)[NTG] SuckMyBallsKyle(#21)[LoR] 1.062 Land
/ 1.061 Buildings 00:51:36-2013/01/10

GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 495 Land / 495
Buildings 09:31:41-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 510 Land / 510
Buildings 09:31:35-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 525 Land / 525
Buildings 07:48:53-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 540 Land / 540
Buildings 07:45:35-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] Defeat /
$95.316.271 07:39:50-2013/01/10

King Ali
RE:

I am sorry for that. I haven't heard about the new unwritten grab rule. I
will tell them to stop GA'ing your nation states more than twice per 36 hours.

Alphonso Sgroia
RE:

GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 511 Land / 504
Buildings 09:35:09-2013/01/11
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 526 Land / 519
Buildings 09:35:04-2013/01/11
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 495 Land / 495
Buildings 09:31:41-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 510 Land / 510
Buildings 09:31:35-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 525 Land / 525
Buildings 07:48:53-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] 540 Land / 540
Buildings 07:45:35-2013/01/10
GA Thiva(#123)[NTG] Kenshin44(#282)[LoR] Defeat / $95.316.271
07:39:50-2013/01/10

He attacked me once again. Taking 1k land.



King Ali
RE:

this #123 is being a real moron. He doesn't understand english i guess,
hasn't been replying any of my messages etc.

Alphonso Sgroia

kenshin44
01-12-2013, 11:49
Not that I really care to defend my case, we did what we had to. And we did it cause we wanted to.

Noobs or not noobs they are playing a game called Nation Wars. They are using attacks to gain 4k plus land in a way others are not.

P.S. I selected that time cause i was gonna be home late lol.

Will
01-12-2013, 12:17
Not that I really care to defend my case, we did what we had to. And we did it cause we wanted to.

Noobs or not noobs they are playing a game called Nation Wars. They are using attacks to gain 4k plus land in a way others are not.

P.S. I selected that time cause i was gonna be home late lol.

Sounds like you were well on the way to solving it diplomatically, yet you preferred to kill noobs. Way to go LOR :rolleyes:

Max Logan
01-12-2013, 12:21
This is from one of my states

I was wondering how LoR got so many states this set! Ali is back! :p

Divine Intervention
01-12-2013, 12:30
No matter how NTG n00bs behaved or what their leader did to annoy you there were plenty of options you could have taken:

1) kill only the leader
2) kill only the leader & perform multiple NA/AA attacks as a retal on the n00bs
3) kept performing NA/AA until they balanced their states...
4) GA farm the **** out of them...
5) any multiple combination of the above & anything else that comes to mind.

kenshin44
01-12-2013, 12:38
No matter how NTG n00bs behaved or what their leader did to annoy you there were plenty of options you could have taken:

1) kill only the leader
2) kill only the leader & perform multiple NA/AA attacks as a retal on the n00bs
3) kept performing NA/AA until they balanced their states...
4) GA farm the **** out of them...
5) any multiple combination of the above & anything else that comes to mind.

No matter how they behaved huh... lol

Think your mistaken us for the five man nation and them for the 15 man nation.

We gave options, we talked, there leader and i discussed, attacks happened again and guess what we want our land!

P.S. I think we helped those smaller nation states out, those NTG guys were od farming everyone 6+ times a day.

Also Anton there were prob 1000 more ways we could of dealt with it. But we dealt with it the way that best served our interest.

Will
01-12-2013, 12:43
Also Anton there were prob 1000 more ways we could of dealt with it. But we dealt with it the way that best served our interest.

And the way that worst served the game's interest.

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 12:48
coming from a few guys that care so much they didnt even restart.... Nice comments from the SIDELINES! You didnt even feel like coming back to avenge not ONE kill. Go back in your corner tail tucked between your twats.

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 12:50
P.S. I think we helped those smaller nation states out, those NTG guys were od farming everyone 6+ times a day.



+1

Will
01-12-2013, 12:56
coming from a few guys that care so much they didnt even restart.... Nice comments from the SIDELINES! You didnt even feel like coming back to avenge not ONE kill. Go back in your corner tail tucked between your twats.

Piss off maggio, I have never believed in restart wars, picking off little states and being killed over and over. It accomplishes nothing and is rarely any fun. What the **** happened to you? you used to give a damn about the game.

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 12:59
and I still do thats why Im so pissed you guys just gave up! Im super pissed that DEAD did all that pushing for change and quit!

NTG was hitting my state several times a day and was not listening to warnings, so they got what they got PERIOD.

Now your left defending the first few posts in this thread which was posted BEFORE you realized why they got killed.

Will
01-12-2013, 13:02
and I still do thats why Im so pissed you guys just gave up! Im super pissed that DEAD did all that pushing for change and quit!

NTG was hitting my state several times a day and was not listening to warnings, so they got what they got PERIOD.

Now your left defending the first few posts in this thread which was posted BEFORE you realized why they got killed.

You could have retaled the crap out of them without wiping out the tag. You'd have got most if not all of the land back, as well. Maybe even more.

Hedge
01-12-2013, 13:05
coming from a few guys that care so much they didnt even restart.... Nice comments from the SIDELINES! You didnt even feel like coming back to avenge not ONE kill. Go back in your corner tail tucked between your twats.


Piss off maggio, I have never believed in restart wars, picking off little states and being killed over and over. It accomplishes nothing and is rarely any fun. What the **** happened to you? you used to give a damn about the game.


ponders what you 2 people hope to achive with this silly debate of yours?

so we went away it didnt really hurt the game did it ?
Lor might have killed a new player tag well it might take away 4 new players from the game but again given the status of the games playerbase and the activeity of its community wich in reality consists of like 10 people here on the forums what was really lost?

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 13:10
You could have retaled the crap out of them without wiping out the tag. You'd have got most if not all of the land back, as well. Maybe even more.

if you restarted this set you coulda done something about it maybe joined up with them and took out a couple LOR states. I just dont think any RO states have ANY legs to stand on making opinions about this set what so ever. You gave up, didnt try, and now you want to criticize.

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 13:12
ponders what you 2 people hope to achive with this silly debate of yours?

so we went away it didnt really hurt the game did it ?
Lor might have killed a new player tag well it might take away 4 new players from the game but again given the status of the games playerbase and the activeity of its community wich in reality consists of like 10 people here on the forums what was really lost?

A few RO states are just being Dbags about it since they got wiped out and are still pissy about it. They wouldnt say anything positive about LOR in the first place, so I guess their complaining is to be expected.

Will
01-12-2013, 13:22
A few RO states are just being Dbags about it since they got wiped out and are still pissy about it. They wouldnt say anything positive about LOR in the first place, so I guess their complaining is to be expected.

What? I couldn't care less about being killed, nor that LOR hit us. I'm not attacking LOR for being LOR, I'm attacking them for killing noobs which in anyone's book is bad for the game, far worse than some vets taking a temp break.

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 13:32
They didn't appear to be noobs by far. Just because there tag said so doesn't mean its true.

Will
01-12-2013, 13:34
They didn't appear to be noobs by far. Just because there tag said so doesn't mean its true.

If they weren't, there is no way they would provoke LOR like that. No vet would be that insane.

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 13:36
I would agree with you about killing new players but lor did reach out and warnings were ignored. So at some point you have to defend your nation.

Will
01-12-2013, 13:40
I would agree with you about killing new players but lor did reach out and warnings were ignored. So at some point you have to defend your nation.

True, but IMO:

1. You should be extra-lenient with noobs.
2. If they still persist, only the worst offenders should have been killed or crippled. Killing the whole tag was excessive and detrimental to the game in the long run.

Max Logan
01-12-2013, 13:45
I`m for one happy you killed the NTG guy who kept farming me! Not that it`s a good thing, just saying!

kenshin44
01-12-2013, 14:25
And the way that worst served the game's interest.

LoR's interest is the game's interest.

We hold largest majority. Thus the interest of LoR is the Games Interest.

So by not doing what we did, I'd be unjustly treating the members of LoR, to an action committed by an outsider nation.

kenshin44
01-12-2013, 14:26
True, but IMO:

1. You should be extra-lenient with noobs.
2. If they still persist, only the worst offenders should have been killed or crippled. Killing the whole tag was excessive and detrimental to the game in the long run.


Efforts were made to vacate the tag of "innocent" players. They choose to remain.

Will
01-12-2013, 14:49
Efforts were made to vacate the tag of "innocent" players. They choose to remain.

No, I mean you let them stay in the tag, and kill the non-innocent states "Join us or die" is not "efforts to spare innocent players" in any reasonable estimation. You started a war when a retal would have sufficed.

Hedge
01-12-2013, 14:50
A few RO states are just being Dbags about it since they got wiped out and are still pissy about it. They wouldnt say anything positive about LOR in the first place, so I guess their complaining is to be expected.

well as far as i know there are no RO states to be dbags about it as well we took a break after being wiped out... wich you are upset about cause we didnt restart and apparently you think that is wrong to the community somehow. then there are complains about what lor did to ntg well you defend that action. well your complaints mentioned earlier are invalid becaue in the same way that what ro choose to do may or may not be bad for the game the same is true of what lor did...

Will
01-12-2013, 15:22
LoR's interest is the game's interest.

We hold largest majority. Thus the interest of LoR is the Games Interest.

So by not doing what we did, I'd be unjustly treating the members of LoR, to an action committed by an outsider nation.

....... Wow, just wow.

Dogma
01-12-2013, 16:36
wo
LoR's interest is the game's interest.

We hold largest majority. Thus the interest of LoR is the Games Interest.

So by not doing what we did, I'd be unjustly treating the members of LoR, to an action committed by an outsider nation.
This is by far and away the most arrogant thing I believe I have ever seen posted in these forums.

MAGGIO
01-12-2013, 17:57
Lol it was pretty bold. Lor really doesn't deserve this much flack for hitting ntg.

Dogma
01-12-2013, 18:14
Lol it was pretty bold. Lor really doesn't deserve this much flack for hitting ntg.

Bold? It was insulting.

Divine Intervention
01-12-2013, 18:18
The awkward moment when Maggio is convinced that a bunch of noobs who only last set were playing mixed strat managed to convince him that they r some kind of undercover vets cos he's so n00bie himself bless the little cvntlet that he is ::pitty::

kenshin44
01-12-2013, 20:10
wo
This is by far and away the most arrogant thing I believe I have ever seen posted in these forums.

Sadly your right, but it is the truth.

LoR players this round made up a good 40% of the community. The single largest majority, so if were talking about game interest. LoR 40% make them happy or the 5% of noobs from NTG.

I was never able to make that statement before due to a bigger community basis, one of the reasons I left, as I thought peace would help the game grow. In my time that I left all I have seen is the community shrunk to unspeakable levels.


P.S. Maggio, it's okay LoR always receives flack.

It's just much more fun trolling them, to get the reactions :P lol





Lol it was pretty bold. Lor really doesn't deserve this much flack for hitting ntg.

Max Logan
01-13-2013, 11:39
I`m sorry, isn`t it LoRs fault we`re at a point where 15 people (though your math is off by a mile) represent 40% of the game?
Ali, viets and the rest of them cheaters (not to confuse with Devil and Kanman as they`re OK) that got us where we are? A dead game?

The only truth here is that once again LoR is responsible for what is another loss for the game. Not that in matter to them, as Ali can easily make 50 more states to keep the game 'alive'! :)

Just my...what do you call it '2 cents'

MellonColly
01-13-2013, 12:51
Max you forget what happened in all the other sets before this? alright.

Will
01-13-2013, 13:07
Just my...what do you call it '2 cents'

Fifty pence :)

Divine Intervention
01-13-2013, 13:16
Fifty pence :)

Dear Will...you are clearly bourgousi. In these days of recession and austerity, we can only realistically expect to compensate someone no greater than a "penny for their thoughts".

kenshin44
01-13-2013, 13:18
I`m sorry, isn`t it LoRs fault we`re at a point where 15 people (though your math is off by a mile) represent 40% of the game?
Ali, viets and the rest of them cheaters (not to confuse with Devil and Kanman as they`re OK) that got us where we are? A dead game?

The only truth here is that once again LoR is responsible for what is another loss for the game. Not that in matter to them, as Ali can easily make 50 more states to keep the game 'alive'! :)

Just my...what do you call it '2 cents'

The viets and cheaters that played all left a long long time ago around 4 years back. The core LoR play legit, and for two years that I have been gone looks like the tag hasn't been doing much so I don't know if LoR can be blamed for the downsize.

I did think however before i went away for two years that LoR was a root cause for a lot of members leaving, as I rembz we killed the whole game that set. But like i said there was a long cool down period in which the LoR tag did not regain its complete strength.

P.S. on a positive note I brought in a newb :)

Will
01-13-2013, 13:39
Dear Will...you are clearly bourgousi. In these days of recession and austerity, we can only realistically expect to compensate someone no greater than a "penny for their thoughts".

Did you adjust for inflation? :P

MAGGIO
01-13-2013, 13:53
last set I was enthusiastic about ALI bringing old players back, and having a fun set making due with the much smaller player base. I joined LOR and have to say it was pretty AWESOME being in LOR strikes, and being accepted immediately into their nation with trust and privileges. Ali is trying to do something positive here... do something with your tired asses and most of you just rolled over, and now your criticizing? At least the dude is trying to liven it up a bit which is more than I can say for most of the players around here.

Im for this kind of positive resurgence in the game. I sure wish DEAD stayed around because they were doing something at least for several sets which again is more than most of you do. RO was doing some stuff last set, and Anton youve had some really good sets last year too. Hats off to all of you guys trying to shake it up a bit around here.

Will
01-13-2013, 14:01
last set I was enthusiastic about ALI bringing old players back, and having a fun set making due with the much smaller player base. I joined LOR and have to say it was pretty AWESOME being in LOR strikes, and being accepted immediately into their nation with trust and privileges. Ali is trying to do something positive here... do something with your tired asses and most of you just rolled over, and now your criticizing? At least the dude is trying to liven it up a bit which is more than I can say for most of the players around here.

Im for this kind of positive resurgence in the game. I sure wish DEAD stayed around because they were doing something at least for several sets which again is more than most of you do. RO was doing some stuff last set, and Anton youve had some really good sets last year too. Hats off to all of you guys trying to shake it up a bit around here.

The last thing we need is "livening up", when that results in one half of the game killing the other. A small war would have been ok, say 5 on 5, but this set? not helpful in the slightest. Then of course there is "how dare those noobs grab us, kill them too!" LOR-NTG war. It needs steady growth, not unsustainable warring. Several quiet sets of recruitment and training, with a few small wars.

SparksInLife
01-13-2013, 14:47
I don't know about anyone else but I thought this game would be really boring at the beginning! However, my opinion changed when Ali taught me how to play. The war chats are always amusing and everyone is friendly! If it weren't for the killing/warring and people at LoR, I would've quit a long time ago. I definitely think warring is fun! My teammates are also very awesome! :)

<3

PS - Don't bash Ali!

Will
01-13-2013, 15:19
Ali will be bashed as much as is necessary.

MAGGIO
01-13-2013, 15:32
The last thing we need is "livening up", when that results in one half of the game killing the other. A small war would have been ok, say 5 on 5, but this set? not helpful in the slightest. Then of course there is "how dare those noobs grab us, kill them too!" LOR-NTG war. It needs steady growth, not unsustainable warring. Several quiet sets of recruitment and training, with a few small wars.

I dont see you jumping up and down raising your hand asking to help do anything of the things you just mentioned. All I am seeing is you playing the blame game.

what would small 5 on 5 wars result in? what would planned out small conflicts result in? I am also not quite sure how fun "several quiet sets" would be for new players. I guess according to your thinking that because it is SO easy to kill states with this GA update that we should all just QUIT for the set and wait for it to go back. I think your being a little over the top about the NTG situation, blaming one instance on the downfall of the game, give me a freaking break! if they leave after being killed one time, then maybe they are not meant to be around.

Will
01-13-2013, 15:45
I dont see you jumping up and down raising your hand asking to help do anything of the things you just mentioned. All I am seeing is you playing the blame game.

what would small 5 on 5 wars result in? what would planned out small conflicts result in? I am also not quite sure how fun "several quiet sets" would be for new players. I guess according to your thinking that because it is SO easy to kill states with this GA update that we should all just QUIT for the set and wait for it to go back. I think your being a little over the top about the NTG situation, blaming one instance on the downfall of the game, give me a freaking break! if they leave after being killed one time, then maybe they are not meant to be around.

You're right, I don't recruit, largely because the places I visit online, you really don't want people from there, trust me. I will train anyone that asks for it though, and I'll answer questions from noobs. And while that may not be all that much, I do not attempt to make things worse either the way you people are, in your obsession with having "fun" at everyone else's expense. By your logic then, if a noob doesn't like "quiet sets" then maybe they also are not meant to be around? Contrary to popular belief, this is not a "war game" War is merely a portion of it. It's only become more prominent due to the low playerbase and the new changes. Years ago, LOR would have ended up on the wrong end of an alliance system by now, but with so few players, diplomacy simply doesn't exist in any meaningful form.

kenshin44
01-13-2013, 17:25
You're right, I don't recruit, largely because the places I visit online, you really don't want people from there, trust me. I will train anyone that asks for it though, and I'll answer questions from noobs. And while that may not be all that much, I do not attempt to make things worse either the way you people are, in your obsession with having "fun" at everyone else's expense. By your logic then, if a noob doesn't like "quiet sets" then maybe they also are not meant to be around? Contrary to popular belief, this is not a "war game" War is merely a portion of it. It's only become more prominent due to the low playerbase and the new changes. Years ago, LOR would have ended up on the wrong end of an alliance system by now, but with so few players, diplomacy simply doesn't exist in any meaningful form.

LOL this isn't a war game sorry just had to laugh at that.

Like seriously? lol it isn't a war game just a portion?

If a new player joins like the one I just recruited and sparks plays a game called nation wars, it isn't a war game.

I think this closes the debate. And as maggio said we don't need players around who will only play if they can net in peace. Do i think netting is important? Yeah of course I do, but it isn't a guarantee to anyone unless they an earn it.

LoR has been around for far too long has had its fair share of losses and victories.

And Will if you think this will drive away players, then DO SOMETHING. Recruit, get together a group of players and be like you know what LoR wants war we give them war, and then establish such a safety net that some new players can net forever in peace.

You know your not going to change our gameplay, but you can counter it with your beliefs.

We both can agree to disagree, so DO Something to make your point.

This war could have been for shits and giggles, if you think it is wrong whatever we did then stand up contact the "noobs" be like this isn't the end of it, we will extract revenge I will help you!

Again Do Something.

P.S. sparks don't worry Will is just jealous that I have a pretty girl in my nation ;)

Will
01-13-2013, 17:36
LOL this isn't a war game sorry just had to laugh at that.

Like seriously? lol it isn't a war game just a portion?

If a new player joins like the one I just recruited and sparks plays a game called nation wars, it isn't a war game.

I think this closes the debate. And as maggio said we don't need players around who will only play if they can net in peace. Do i think netting is important? Yeah of course I do, but it isn't a guarantee to anyone unless they an earn it.

LoR has been around for far too long has had its fair share of losses and victories.

And Will if you think this will drive away players, then DO SOMETHING. Recruit, get together a group of players and be like you know what LoR wants war we give them war, and then establish such a safety net that some new players can net forever in peace.

You know your not going to change our gameplay, but you can counter it with your beliefs.

We both can agree to disagree, so DO Something to make your point.

This war could have been for shits and giggles, if you think it is wrong whatever we did then stand up contact the "noobs" be like this isn't the end of it, we will extract revenge I will help you!

Again Do Something.

P.S. sparks don't worry Will is just jealous that I have a pretty girl in my nation ;)

Why would I waste my time or that of anyone else trying to extract revenge against a nation that by your own admission does not care about being warred or killed? It's clear that RO's decision to do nothing has pissed you off far more than any kills we could have made, since you now have nothing to do for the rest of the set. Well, Ali, As ye sow, so shall ye reap. I think I will remain inactive :)

Of course, you could always kill each other if you love war so much. Then you can show your noobs how to cs without breakers. I'll say this to you, Sparks, it's REALLY hard.

MAGGIO
01-13-2013, 18:10
im not for warring for fun at all. look at the scores sheet... see all the LOR states up top ATM. LOR is actually warring for one of the only good reason to war, which is to win the game.

im not mad you didnt restart, im disappointed which is just my personal feeling. it is a bit irritating that you make/hijack a thread about a war that didnt even concern you AFTER you didnt even try to play the rest of the set yourself. its just a bunch of garbage. all your trying to do is shit talk and go back and forth. get over it, its done, it was legit even though it may not have been done the way you wanted. no need to shit talk now about how bad it was for the game... the freaking states we killed didnt even bother to comment about it.

the old insults are just that....OLD, talking about cheaters and multies still? Get over it, and report abuses as you see fit.

kenshin44
01-13-2013, 19:09
Man this isn't about you warring and not warring, this about you complaining and getting into business that doesn't pertain you. But being that you felt what we did was so morally wrong to the noobs, then stand up and DO Something, now if you think boycotting works. Then all the more power to you man. Boycott all you want.

But don't fall under the illusion or pretense that you not playing or certain players not playing will effect us.

I don't want you to unnecessarily feel your important to us that much that we must kill you. You play or Not solely up to you, War or Net, we will figure out something to do. So play the game you see fit and don't do anything if thats what you think will bring results.

When I said DO Something, that's exactly what I meant, do anything you think you can do to stop us from doing such an "injustice".

Cause the complaining, really doesn't solve anything.

Right now my guys are loving the fact they are dominating top ten! Guess we do have some great netting skills :)

Dogma
01-13-2013, 19:48
I think that with the new changes there was an unexpected result. Wars definitely benefit the nation with the FS and making a CS is terribly difficult. By design, the nation that makes the most war attacks, has the most land in order to make its income.

LoR came back as LoR left, leaving death and destruction in its wake. Get over it or do something about it. Until we go back, it is what it is, the nation that hits first, wins.

MAGGIO
01-13-2013, 21:22
the nation that hits first, wins.

and that sucks... totally unintended I am sure of it.

take me back to the days of AAs and ARs. Kill bombmers, and tanks off and lets have some good OLD fun.

kenshin44
01-13-2013, 21:38
and that sucks... totally unintended I am sure of it.

take me back to the days of AAs and ARs. Kill bombmers, and tanks off and lets have some good OLD fun.

Amen to that

SparksInLife
01-13-2013, 22:13
Will, I thought I was the only girl here. :)

Max Logan
01-14-2013, 11:30
im not for warring for fun at all. look at the scores sheet... see all the LOR states up top ATM. LOR is actually warring for one of the only good reason to war, which is to win the game.

im not mad you didnt restart, im disappointed which is just my personal feeling. it is a bit irritating that you make/hijack a thread about a war that didnt even concern you AFTER you didnt even try to play the rest of the set yourself. its just a bunch of garbage. all your trying to do is shit talk and go back and forth. get over it, its done, it was legit even though it may not have been done the way you wanted. no need to shit talk now about how bad it was for the game... the freaking states we killed didnt even bother to comment about it.

the old insults are just that....OLD, talking about cheaters and multies still? Get over it, and report abuses as you see fit.

How quickly you change statements when you`re on the other side :)

MAGGIO
01-14-2013, 12:02
How quickly you change statements when you`re on the other side :)

I would have warred RO thinking they would have gotten me first. Im pretty sure I would have killed NTG too (given how it went down).

Im down for someone having a cause. I enjoyed DEAD's motivation for trying to make change in a game that needed some change (very upset they are not still playing), and I enjoyed being in LOR this set with their spark for enthusiasm.

I dont think ALI did anything that I wouldn't have done in-game I think the GA Update is what is the culprit here. If it was LOR vs. RO with old school rules then that conflict could have lasted for weeks (not knowing Vaili and Anton are very busy this set). RO has some top dogs.

I went to blaa and asked for a truce admitting that I was being an ***, and I asked ALI to join LOR because I wanted to try something new. I am very happy with those decisions, and I am very pleased with how LOR has treated me. In my short little time in there I have had ALOT fun working with them. Everyone was hating on me anyway, so I might as well have joined "the dark side".

kenshin44
01-14-2013, 13:27
You guys shouldn't bash Maggio for his view, that goes same for anyone else. Talk about different viewpoints and your argument, but not about the person.

Maggio is sharing his experiences, and his opinions and as such should be respected for it. You can't go say oh you didn't experience it right! Or your morally wrong, There is always two sides to a war. And depending on which side you sympathize with you will take their stance.

So just take a stance, on what you feel.

Dogma
01-14-2013, 14:40
You guys shouldn't bash Maggio for his view, that goes same for anyone else. Talk about different viewpoints and your argument, but not about the person.

Maggio is sharing his experiences, and his opinions and as such should be respected for it. You can't go say oh you didn't experience it right! Or your morally wrong, There is always two sides to a war. And depending on which side you sympathize with you will take their stance.

So just take a stance, on what you feel.

I think you missed Maxie's point for it was not long ago, Maggio was an advocate of "war for the sake of war" and that was what he was commenting on. Or maybe it was long ago, I can't keep a lot straight as far as time these days. It is had to do when you have 5 Saturdays and 2 Sundays in your week.

Max Logan
01-14-2013, 15:11
I think you missed Maxie's point for it was not long ago, Maggio was an advocate of "war for the sake of war" and that was what he was commenting on. Or maybe it was long ago, I can't keep a lot straight as far as time these days. It is had to do when you have 5 Saturdays and 2 Sundays in your week.

The first part. Guess it`s true, wisdom come`s with old age!

Hedge
01-14-2013, 15:36
hum still at it eh i'm still wondering what this debate is supose to lead to...
anywho as was stated in the other thred if you cant play you shouldnt by that way of thinking the way things look maybe i should let mr p delete my account as i wont have time to play the game in any sort of effective way in a forseable future ;)

MAGGIO
01-14-2013, 15:43
im always for a reason, but some of these "reasons" in the past X months have been criticized. There is really only two good reasons. 1 to win, and 2 to defend your state, land, or nation. to define the specifics behind each and every scenario has been challenging even for the best of us. lets face it we cant all just sit here and net. imo several sets of netting hurt the game.