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youngwebsolutions
01-02-2014, 06:13
You probably have heard about those coins last year...

I'v been quit lucky starting early with bitcoins, and was able to mine a few (decimals) of bitcoins (like .8 or somthing like that) currently one bitcoin is 750 USD. You can make the math for .8 of a bitcoin..
After this i'v been investing a bit on exchanges and personally i think this has a big future!

Since i own this server (where forums and nation-wars are hosted) I have the option to host here our own mining pool! In addition I paid already the server fees and we can do therefore a very cheap mining pool.

if we have enough interested people, who want to dedicate a bit of their GFX cards power to this nation-wars pool, we might be able to do things like this:
- draw more attention to the nation-wars game, by other miners who will join
- give away premiums to miners for the game?
- pay for premium accounts with e-coins
- make some money yourself (especially if you live in a country with low currency (electricity) costs. (like USA and eastern europe)
- build up the community a bit more.
- much more will follow later. options for e-currency are limitless

I have gathered a deep knowledge about this whole cryoptocurrency stuff, and are happy to join this knowlege.

In order to make this work, we need at least 7-10 people willing to get this pool working. (otherwise it will take too long to 'mine' the first coin)

Please let me know if you are interested.
(also i will need mr. p's approval for this, to have the game involved)

Let me know your opinions here, and i will see if it is an option to invest for me time and money to set-up a mining pool!

L P
01-02-2014, 18:45
Well, it's interesting but I don't think I'm smart enough to really understand it. If this goes forward just tell me what you need and I'll try to pitch in. :)

Margus
01-03-2014, 11:02
I am interested but don't know much about it... yet

youngwebsolutions
01-03-2014, 12:45
I will give full in dept help.. with 2 poeple sofar just interested, i will investigate on what to do next.

PS, would please advise your computer set-up?
only important thing here is: what brand and type of GFX card do you have:
e.g. AMD/ATI radeon 5970, or Nvidia gtx 270, etc

blaa
01-04-2014, 02:58
I'd help for the sake of raising the player count, but need to know more

youngwebsolutions
01-04-2014, 06:18
For the intereste people, I will come up with a simple explanation of crypto currency, but these links will provide some information as well (don't get too overwhelmed though, i had the same i heard about this the first time as well.. :)

http://www.megacoin.co.nz/ (one of the coins i would like to process to mine overhere)

Short explantion is easy words (i hope):

How it works :
I am going to take the example of bitcoin, but it is similar for the other crypto coins. (like megacoins)
A "miner" in our case will be a GPU ( video card ). When you put a miner on the network, it starts calculating MHs. As an example, an AMD 7850, will output around 270 MHs ( Mega hash / seconds ). There is nothing to do on your side beside the initial setup. Once it starts mining, forget about it, it will keep on going 24/7.
THose MHs of calculation allow the miner to resolve " share of works ". Those shares are the encoded part of the network , where the transactions are hidden. Most of the time, 99.99999 %, a share is useless. That is defined by the current " difficulty ". The difficulty changes overtime, adapts itself to the number of miners on the network. The more miners, the harder it is to find an hidden transaction in a share. But... sometimes... your miner find a " block " of transaction, in a share. When it does, it generates 25 Bitcoins. They directly end up in your wallet.
In order for your wallet to really have those 25 bitcoins, this " new block of transaction found " has to be validated by the network ( other miners ).
The main issue is : the difficulty. ( https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty ).
Because of numbers of miners on the network actually, it is nearly impossible for a " solo " miner to find a block. Remember that your miner is competing with the other miners on the network to be the first to find the block. To overcome that, people choose to mine in " pool ".
A pool is directed by a server who sends the " Share of work " to miners. When one block is found, the 25 BTC are dispatched between all the miners of the pool, proportional to the number of shares of work they solved in the current " block round".

Since megacoin is relative new, it is still reasonable easy to find a "block". Once our pool finds the block, we can divide the coins amongst the miners that join our pool. You can join at any momen, and stop at any moment. (our payout will be less of course, since your share of the solutions will be less, if you do not work all round long, payouts are proportional to you added work: e.g. if you solve 10% of the hashes, you get 10% of the revenue)

the coins will be transferred to your local wallet (a program on your pc) from where you can spend them (see the first link for locations where to spend), or keep them in your wallet (safe) and await further price increase, or trade and an exchange and gain more value by selling high, buying low. In order to make this game more attractive, we could make payments for premiums possible in megacoins. (need to to discuss with mr. P) or give nice bonusses to miners in the pool, like premimum memberships etc.

These coins are mostly mined by computer minded people, which is also the target of this game. When we have new miners comming to our pool, we just have to convince them about the nice part of this great game. Hopefully this will attract an new player base then as well..

more to follow later!

youngwebsolutions
01-14-2014, 14:55
I have worked last week hard on a nice website for mining..

You can test it out here: http://pool.youngwebsolutions.com
*Note, do not care about the slow performance, this is a test set-up, for proove-of-work. Once we/I decide this might work, I will rent an new server with cuttting edge speeds.. :)*

In order to know if we have enough people on-board to justify a purchase of server, and make sure we have enough hashing power to make coins in reasonable amount of time, I invite you to sign-up on this website.
http://pool.youngwebsolutions.com/index.php?page=register

type a username (e.g. joe)
type a password (e.g. 12345678)
repeat password (e.g. 12345678)
type an e-mail (no need for an actual e-mail)
re type your email
type a PIN (not very important, but required, eg. 1234)
type your PIN again (1234)
click on the red "X", to change it to a green checkbox
Finally click: REGISTER

Now you can login, with username and pasword submitted.

Now go to: My workers
type something for worker name: eg. "1"
type a password: e.g. 'x' (again this is needed for scripting, but password is not important!!)

now you are set to do some test mining!!

go to http://mc2.xwebnetwork.com/storage/guiminer-scrypt_win32_binaries_v0.04.zip and download this zip file
extract it to your harddisk (no install required, it is a portable program!!)

Open the folder where you extracted it to, and double click on the guiminer.exe
Use the following data:
Host: pool.youngwebsolutions.com
Port: 3333
username: your workername (with above example: joe.1)
password: your worker pasword (with above example: x)
Device: select your graphics card
select from GPU defaults, dropdown list your card type, otherwise go here for some examples: https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison
(this part can be finetuned later)
If you don't know, but thread concurrency to 3000, worksize to 128, vectors to 1, Intensity to 12, GPU threads to 1 (very basic settings, which work for most cards)

IMPORTANT: put use stratum to "YES"
now click start and see if miner connects. if so, you will see a value of KH/s appear in the bottom right corner,
Post this value in this forum.

Let it run for a few minutes, and go the website dashboard and check your earnings!!
**PLEASE NOTE, you are mining on a test network, earned coins are NOT VALID AND COMPLETLY USELESSS**
this is just a test and a calculation of how much GH/s we approx can generate

If we have enough people involved I will set-up a server for real coins!!

Mr President
01-17-2014, 11:20
This is interesting. I will look further into this.

I can see where it might attract new members and we can definitely figure out a way to incorporate this into our game if we gain enough interest.

youngwebsolutions
01-24-2014, 05:14
**Update**

Please note pool at earlier mentioned location http://pool.youngwebsolutions.com is now active on the live network. If you manage to connect you can start trying to get real coins!! Use the instructions earlier, but remember to apply good paswords this thime, since this is now a live dbase!!!

I will be on a holiday for about a week, and when i return I will transfer the pool as it is now, to a new server (much faster) and all progress will be saved to the new server as well.
I won't be able to help you out, since i only have tablet internet, but I will keep watching this topic.

My estimate is that with about 4 people joining we can get about 120 coins a day.. :) (divivded over the share % of every contributor)
Next steps then will be to promote this pool, get external members and promote this game on the pool (+ mr. will need to start accepting coins as payment for premiums etc)

Let me know your progress!

blaa
01-27-2014, 10:38
Bandwidth Limit Exceeded

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can't download the zip

youngwebsolutions
02-02-2014, 12:20
new month new chances.. it is working for me (tested a few minutes ago)
please try again..

I almost foun my first coins with just single mining.. Come and join the fun... :)

PS I will have all files later available here at nation-wars, to avoid messages like this in the future!

blaa
02-03-2014, 10:49
Now it said that this file is malicious and my browser stopped it.

youngwebsolutions
02-03-2014, 11:17
Now it said that this file is malicious and my browser stopped it.

I can confirm this file is safe, but the big lobby of banks and government convinced sever antivirusses to false postive almost anything bitcoin related. I can give you later 2night my proven safe copy, or you use this tool to scan the url (the file might have changed of course)
https://www.virustotal.com/
this site scans with several anti-virus scanners and checks the result of all of them. if one is paid to submit a false postive it will you show here.
PS I'll be in game on the chat to help you around if you want to, for the next 45 minutes

youngwebsolutions
02-03-2014, 11:20
if you pasted the url in the site above you can see 5 out of 51 scanners report this file suspicious. those 5 are not the best 5 scanners (like nod32, avast etc) and this file is safe therefore..
see full report here
https://www.virustotal.com/nl/url/a5adc42417c89f4ca9a7306fde821b70569efdd33fc93648e8 f7251d601d2e00/analysis/

blaa
02-04-2014, 10:08
Just wouldn't let me download it. Says its malicious and I can't click ignore or anything.

youngwebsolutions
02-07-2014, 06:21
Blaa: please visit my new site:

http://fst.nation-wars.com

sign-up for an account, then go the the getting started section. I assume you have windows, follow the cgminer for windows download.
this is command line miner (is better, but guiminer was ment for easier explanation, since guiminer is blocked by your antivirus, use the cgminer link instead)
the getting started is quite helpfull i think.

Depending on your graphics card, we might run into problems with that as well, but these are all fixable, Just let me know how far you get this time..
(ps don't forget to set-up a 'worker' after setting up your account

This site will also be the final produciton site, please make sure you use a good pasword!

blaa
02-07-2014, 08:26
Alright, I'll try that. But I'll be afk for a while (away from the country to be honest).

youngwebsolutions
02-09-2014, 11:43
The mining server is now officially online:

http://fst.nation-wars.com

All coins earned here are for real, and can be used to pay for online casino's, premiums at Nation-wars game, or exchange against bitcoins and/or litecoins

Quick start:
create an account: http://fst.nation-wars.com/index.php?page=register
after creating your account log-in and create an miner (worker) here: http://fst.nation-wars.com/index.php?page=account&action=workers

download the guiminder (including cgminer) here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5d7q6w6qe3xuh9/guiminer-scrypt_win32_binaries_v0.04.zip (this is my personal dropbox account and absolutely safe!)
extract to a folder on your Harddisk
Double click guiminer.exe
type in you worker credentials (as found on http://fst.nation-wars.com/index.php?page=account&action=workers )
select for quickstart the grahic card presets from guiminer)
click start and start receiving coins!

PS many things might break this quick set-up. It works the best for Windows 7 with AMD/ATI cards.
if you get stuck sent me a PM or post a reply.

You can invite friends, sent me there account details (and yours) an I will reward you with some free coins!!

youngwebsolutions
02-17-2014, 11:25
The first 96 coins have been mined already.. Looking forward to see some more miners!

youngwebsolutions
03-15-2014, 16:59
Today the official nation-wars mining community has been launched. Please check this topic on bitcointalk.org. I have heard already some interest towards this game, an hopefully we can make here a mutual benefit.
I would like to see you around sometime and please note, I'm fully available to help you in setting your first steps in the cryptocurrency mining business!!

Official announcement thread!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516906.0

As soon as we have some more members in the mining site, I will promote this game a bit more.. see you around soon!