Induction of Nations in Hall of Fame

[kenshin44]

So I was wondering why it is that only USA is inducted in the hall of fame? I know that the inducted individuals are not necessarily retired players, but game changing players. By that same standard should not the other nations that have shaped this game be inducted. No offense to USA but as for being seen as a key game changer and to be recognized in the Hall of Fame, is not something I see. Especially if they are the only nation in there.

DAK, AF, E, LoR, SLOB, SKY, RO, EURO, WLF, are few nations I can think of that have definitely been game changers, and should be inducted.

[northbabylon]

I thought there were more inducted. They can't be an active nation though which is why lor and slob are not in that list. I could be wrong about that though.

Sky, wlf, ro, euro, dak and e are all good recommendations.
I played in most of those nations at least once, the one set I was in AF, we were warred by LOr.

[MarineRecon]

don't forget FED and whatever the nation was that tnova was a boss with lol remember Evil Noob...he was pretty awesome to

[MarineRecon]

there should be a system where players/nations get nominated and than voted on say every 3, 6, 9, or 12 months...and the top ones of each category move on but the nominations have to have legit reasoning to be added to the nomination card or whatever...the voting for being inducted could be a player based vote or staff only or a designated group that decides on the winner based off the reasoning behind each and history experianced

[kenshin44]

I thought there were more inducted. They can't be an active nation though which is why lor and slob are not in that list. I could be wrong about that though.

Sky, wlf, ro, euro, dak and e are all good recommendations.
I played in most of those nations at least once, the one set I was in AF, we were warred by LOr.

Yeah I think Nations should be inducted based off the merit of the impact they have had on the game as oppose to retirement of the tag itself. We do want to promote TAGs to stick around and grow to become famous, I believe we are aiming for an increasing as oppose to a shrinking player base.

As such it should be for new leaders to try and aspire like the old and new tags of this game to become prestigious. Not by playing the tag to retirement to get inducted into the hall of fame.

Our Hall of Fame for individuals, is based not on the fact of players retiring, as several still continue to play on. I think the Hall of Fame for nations should have new inductions for sure! And I think your right Andy it stands as for now for Tags that are retired, but as I state my point earlier. I think we want to promote people and tags to stick around and those that do shouldn't be forgotten. LoR for example may vanish for a year or months but make a come back every now and then. Other leaders may do the same or just are fantastic by themselves.

Prez, I think you should make changes this way people have more reason to make a name for their nation and this can result in a U turn from our current player base shrinkage!

[Missionary]

did half of those nations even play in NW? pretty sure a few of them havent, so are you talking about NW or WOW and NW?

i agree they shouldnt need to be retired but they should have atleast played NW lol.

[MarineRecon]

^ that is also a valid point...did all of those players play NW though than???

[MarineRecon]

I also don't think being inducted into the hall of fame should be based off achieving all the medals either...pretty easy to get a group of guys to support you and let you get all the kills or feed you to the top so theres really no skill in achieving them

[blaa]

I also don't think being inducted into the hall of fame should be based off achieving all the medals either...pretty easy to get a group of guys to support you and let you get all the kills or feed you to the top so theres really no skill in achieving them

lol

[KelpKris]

Umm... I won most of the sets with absolutely 0 feeding, counting those that have highest scores. And if you're talking about heyne this set, then I'm not aware that someone sold him units with minimum price or anything close to it. As far as I know he has bought almost all his units with close to full price. I have been back only for a few sets but it seems not much has changed since I stopped playing, because if it's "pretty easy to get a group of guys to support you" why is it that only Estonians win the sets? Last set there was feeding wars we didn't start but came out as winners. So you have to admit that there is little skill involved and yes, of course a lot of teamwork. Though to achieve the warring medals you don't need a group of guys, just 1 guy. Given the right conditions, that is a set when big nations are not warring, you and your friend have to create nations and "war" with each other - this has been done in the past and it has worked. As for getting the most kills, hasn't it worked like that in any nation, that one guy says that "hey, can I get the kills" and if his nation doesn't have too much jerks he does get them.

There were quite a few threads in the past where a netter got into war and it was said, that the name of the game is "Nation-WARS". Now I'm pointing out that the name of the game is "NATION-Wars", so you can't go solo and win a set all by yourself, you need to have a decent nation behind you. Now I'm not implying that you need to feed the top state, but more often than not you need to do sacrifices for your nation, but I gladly help my nation. I don't know about you guys, but it makes happier when my teammate wins a set rather than I finish say 10 spots higher.

P.S. I got all the medals years ago and have not yet introduced to HOF.

[MarineRecon]

you kind of made my point with it...im just saying there should be more to it than just the medals because like you just said its easy to get them...there should be more to it than that or harder to get

[blaa]

i dont have all the medals and i'm somehow there, so that's solved

[zaxZ]

Well, Ive only had the chance to watch Marine play for few sets. And I am amazed about his stocking neting skills and after todays morning- even Ali shat bricks cus wow, such warring ability. So my suggestion is that Marine should be in the HoF and Prez should remove us, Estonians, from there. Cus we surely make that Hall of Feeding. Teamwork and a little bit math skill doesnt play any role here anyways. And dont be now shy, Marine, in b4 "I dont care about that list". You deserve it clearly! And since Kris has won most sets of us, thats why Mr P. has not introduced him there. I mean, evil noob was just a noob compared to Kris.

[KelpKris]

Some sets are certainly easier than the others, however behind many of my medals there are countless sleepless nights or waking up abnormally early and I'm sure I'm not alone. So yea, it's easier if you know what you are doing, but at least for me winning some of the sets has taken a lot of time and dedication. While getting to HOF should perhaps not only depend on getting all the medals once, it's not like you can win a set by logging in 3 times a day for 5 minutes.

For that matter you could appoint players to HOF on an individual basis. For example a person who is exceptionally good or has done something great to community. What if a player hasn't gotten any of the warring medals or only gotten them a few times, maybe he is a badass netter, who has won a set for 9 times. Or maybe someone is great at warring, is on 24 / 7, kills as he pleases and is impossible to kill. Or maybe someone brought a lot of players to NW, quite a few of them playing to this day. The list could go on. So I do agree with you on that, getting to HOF should not be easy. But I also think that until you haven't won all the medals yourself, it's kind of hard to say how easy it is to get one medal or another.

[MarineRecon]

exactly how I see it kris, there should be more to it than the option of just getting all the medals...if I wanted a medal I would get one but I could careless about it because im not going to waste my time logging in at random hours to win a round or get a kill...that is also why I believe there should be more options for other people that are like that and play to help the game because its unfair to those players that do continue to play but not to achieve a medal

like come on now, how are andy and pasha ever gonna get in the hall of fame with their amazing noob skills they have lmao

[northbabylon]

Well if there is a hall of fame, a hall of shame why not a hall of noobs? Surely I'd be a unanimous vote for that.

[MarineRecon]

I wish max was playing...I use to always pick on him and terrorize his state the most...poor guy hated me but his rants after always made me laugh so I kept doing it haha

[KelpKris]

exactly how I see it kris, there should be more to it than the option of just getting all the medals...if I wanted a medal I would get one but I could careless about it because im not going to waste my time logging in at random hours to win a round or get a kill...that is also why I believe there should be more options for other people that are like that and play to help the game because its unfair to those players that do continue to play but not to achieve a medal

like come on now, how are andy and pasha ever gonna get in the hall of fame with their amazing noob skills they have lmao

I have nothing against andy and pasha becoming members of HOF until they don't get there by just playing the game. Because wouldn't you agree that it would be too easy?

[MarineRecon]

i do agree...which is why i said there should be other ways to get in

[Missionary]

I also don't think being inducted into the hall of fame should be based off achieving all the medals either...pretty easy to get a group of guys to support you and let you get all the kills or feed you to the top so theres really no skill in achieving them

i got like 2 of the medals and im in there so its not just about them.

and haha, i thought andy was in there :-P

[kenshin44]

There should be a hall of infamy! Surely I would be in there!

[northbabylon]

i got like 2 of the medals and im in there so its not just about them.

and haha, i thought andy was in there :-P

If you're there and I'm not, the voters have their priorities wrong ;) just kidding. You deserve to be there just as much as the next guy.

[Mr President]

The program was originally set up so after a state received 1 of each medal he/she was placed in the hall of fame. Each medal represents a certain section of the game and one needs not only to master all, but be a role person in the community.

For the nations, there use to be a committee who voted on nations that were nominated by the community. Some nations were selected but we never received the required information back, so they were not added. We are not going to just add a nation without the information.

As time went on and the community shrunk, the HOF was forgotten about. A few sets back I entered a few people in the Members HOF who I felt have been a plus for the game. Some of these people are the ones who stuck around. Who contently go out of their way to help the game, in many different areas. If you all want to start something up again for nations I'm ok with that. I would love to have more nations in the HOF.

I disagree that USA doesn't belong in the HOF. For 10yrs that nation was home for new players each set. We taught them the basics and the proper way to play. We brought democracy to the game and spilled blood on countless battlefields, fighting for what was right. I'm not saying USA is the only nation who did this or who deserves to be in the HOF. USA was nominated and selected via the committee. Please feel free to nominate more and we'll get them added. However, we need the history of the nominated nations as well. So hopefully those leaders are still among us.

And the original rule was, nations in the HOF must be retired. I think it might be time to reverse that rule.