Battle for the Emperor of March title

[Visconte]

Since i am bored and noone wants to do a war topic this set for some reason even though there are already 3 or so dead i thought i?ll do it!

So..... whats up guys?http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/guns/big-machine-gun.gif

[Missionary]

i dunno but i died haha.

1. so the top guys spy op'ed ryan out of taking the top spot, ryan deleted his state.
2. pash got killed (not sure if he did any attacks lol)
3. andy AA'd the top guy
4. to counter these attacks the top guy and a few pit rats killed me
5. i gave up and started playing farmville where people are nice and potatoes grow big :-)

[MarineRecon]

1) they made an agreement that is to technical for you to understand but there was a glitch that wasn't agreed fully upon which than ryan did delete after he attempted to AA the top guy back

2) pash did attempt to hit the top guy so he had to die

3) andy blamed the top guy for spy ops on him so andy AAed him but that was a false accusation

4) because andy hid outside of a nation after his attacks in GDN/TDN, he was untouchable so Vinnie paid his price for him

5) Farmville use to be amazing lmao

[northbabylon]

1) IF they had a no hit pact, any hits should not be attempted by either state. If a no hit pact was in fact in place, any attacks on ryan is just low.

2) Yes, but this was after Ryan deleted his state in frustration. Working hard for the first week of the set, providing YOLO with NA just to have the top state join after running all set with little to no tax.

3) I still do.

4) I was outside of a nation when I completed the attacks. You could have found a way to hit me if you tried hard enough. Especially since I have 0 AR protection.

5) The music is soothing.

[zazibuzi]

Why am I dead?

[northbabylon]

because you are not in Yolo or LEM

So wrong place at the wrong time.

[MarineRecon]

again andy your false and making assumptions...

1) there was never a DNH in place between the top guy and ryan

2) pasha joined the nation a couple days before that all went down and was only on twice during that time to use turns so he didn't provide anything to the nation to help us as he was transitioning strats

3) in order to hit you we would either have to recruit low players and/or drop our networth low enough to hit you making ourselves vulnerable to others

[northbabylon]

1) according to the messages Ryan received, yes.

2) Ryan played enough turns to be 2nd overall a few days into the set. Playing in a nation with a tax. Must mean he played a good amount of turns.

3) As you can see, you are vulnerable regardless if you are in first or in 50th. If I was able to join Pashas nation as planned, a lot more damage would have been done. You had your chance at me when I finally did join his nation while war declaration was active. Instead of 3 SAs, you could have attacked and killed me.

[MarineRecon]

1) theres two sides to every story in which there are other messages you haven't seen im sure...and if there was a DNH Ryan was planning on hitting the top guy anyway so that obviously didn't mean much if that's your story...Ryan also told the top guy he didn't mind giving him the land and top spot because he didn't have the time to play a lot in the game to begin with so the top guy did what he had to do

2) correct I misunderstood your statement and thought you meant pasha contributed a lot of the NA/tech support but you should also be aware that I pretty much grabbed and than cashed majority of my turns to support Ryan

3) you left the nation prior to the declaration going through so we didn't have a chance unless we spent 5 turns per hit which would be a waste

[Mr President]

I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

[Visconte]

1) theres two sides to every story in which there are other messages you haven't seen im sure...and if there was a DNH Ryan was planning on hitting the top guy anyway so that obviously didn't mean much if that's your story...Ryan also told the top guy he didn't mind giving him the land and top spot because he didn't have the time to play a lot in the game to begin with so the top guy did what he had to do



First he had plans to take over the top spot and then he had plans to feed the other guy and then he had the plan to AA and grab the other guy and then he again had the feeling he should feed him? Seems like just 1 plan all along in the end.

Just adding some fuel into the fire:D

[MarineRecon]

like I said its technical on the agreement...so all you guys can make up your own stories which is fine it isn't changing anything...I know what both players were telling me in which both are guilty of their decisions, I was just the middle man sending the messages back and forth to each other...the top guy did some things he should have waited on first and ryan isn't innocent either with what he was telling me and then agreeing on with the top guy so as far as I know they both had their issues and it caused a bigger problem than it needed...certain couple people just want to instigate it into something bigger so they can get revenge through others like usual

[Superpasha69]

I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

Went to Bibury village yday and had a pint at local Inn

[Missionary]

What was the agreement?

[northbabylon]

Went to Bibury village yday and had a pint at local Inn

Ive been at work the last 3 days. Lucky yous two.

[Visconte]

By recent global news it seems you guys really want the estonians to come back together next set and kill the game for others again. Cant live in war, cant live in peace. Also really not nice to use UNoP guys to get rid of competition so you dont have to spend turns yourself.

[northbabylon]

By recent global news it seems you guys really want the estonians to come back together next set and kill the game for others again. Cant live in war, cant live in peace. Also really not nice to use UNoP guys to get rid of competition so you dont have to spend turns yourself.

Did someone say the estonians playing together killed the game? If anything they were NIPS only competition.

[MarineRecon]

at least now your guys will understand how they make others feel when they do it to them...and your kind words of saying we made UNoP do our dirty work was not the case, I was simply going to guide them and didn't want to be do it without being declared because somebody along the way would mention me coaching them and I didn't want to get called out on that...but again due to your kind words it made me change tactics and actually attack after I told my buddy what you said about us...we will gladly waste turns on them =P

[Visconte]

Well you made us understand how pointless this game is going solo. From now on i think it will be better to be the ******* and win than be the peaceful guy and just idle the whole round. Why were you "coaching" guys who have played already several rounds? Its not like they quit when they fail some attacks. You seem to do awful lot of "coaching" this round.

But do whatever you think is the the right thing, i may not understand it but seems like you can enjoy the next 3 weeks, there is noone to challenge you in here anymore.
Just dont expect us to feel any sympathy anymore starting from next round and i dont wanna hear anymore whining, coz it seems you guys do the exact same thing as we did as soon as you get your chance. And im sure its not just you, there are other people here too who just care about winning not the community, as you have blamed us last 2 rounds. And i completely understand. Just didnt expect such behavior starting right off from first "rehabilitation" round.

[Missionary]

This all from dying vis? Looking at the way the set was going you should have known you would be killed. Should have got involved and taken the initiative and attacked them.

You don't have to sit idle the whole set doing nothing. Play for the top spot without getting massively fed all set,that's what people were getting at.

[Superpasha69]

Well you made us understand how pointless this game is going solo. From now on i think it will be better to be the ******* and win than be the peaceful guy and just idle the whole round. Why were you "coaching" guys who have played already several rounds? Its not like they quit when they fail some attacks. You seem to do awful lot of "coaching" this round.

But do whatever you think is the the right thing, i may not understand it but seems like you can enjoy the next 3 weeks, there is noone to challenge you in here anymore.
Just dont expect us to feel any sympathy anymore starting from next round and i dont wanna hear anymore whining, coz it seems you guys do the exact same thing as we did as soon as you get your chance. And im sure its not just you, there are other people here too who just care about winning not the community, as you have blamed us last 2 rounds. And i completely understand. Just didnt expect such behavior starting right off from first "rehabilitation" round.

Vis does have a point, from what I saw and heard, you did a lot worst for the Community than EST did.

[MarineRecon]

its just funny that when the tides change and the acts they use on everybody else is done to them they suddenly get defensive and ***** and moan like everybody else...this is what the game has come to and why its not a gaming issue but a personality player issue and going to be the downfall of the game

UNoP may have played a couple rounds but they have no idea how to war so I was going to coach them with it because warring can be fun and is very important to the game

I don't like the tactics I was involved with this round but you guys needed to see what you guys do does to the other players of the game and maybe feel a little sympathy for the game and not your egos

[Superpasha69]

its just funny that when the tides change and the acts they use on everybody else is done to them they suddenly get defensive and ***** and moan like everybody else...this is what the game has come to and why its not a gaming issue but a personality player issue and going to be the downfall of the game

UNoP may have played a couple rounds but they have no idea how to war so I was going to coach them with it because warring can be fun and is very important to the game

I don't like the tactics I was involved with this round but you guys needed to see what you guys do does to the other players of the game and maybe feel a little sympathy for the game and not your egos

You were the main moaner about it, and we all agreed not to do it this set, and you now say that you wanted to do the same to show the others? are you a ****ign idiot or what? "others" all seen it and did it...lead by example not by doing the same things you complain about.

[MarineRecon]

nobody agreed anything...everybody is full of b.s promises that just say it to shut people up for the time being and then do what they want anyway...it was just another tactic the Estos were using and got beat at instead

I didn't do any feeding that I have complained about, that was ryans fault that it happened so go back to sitting there looking cool thinking you know everything

and leading by example I did for numerous sets against margus and what not but I cant be the only one who fights back because it gets boring, its going to be unpreventable at this rate

the idea of participating in it was to get an understanding of what the estos think when their doing it because if you don't get an understanding of the other persons reasonings than you will never solve the issue...maybe as the VP of Security you would have some actual security experience and understand what your doing so you can help better the game

[Superpasha69]

nobody agreed anything...everybody is full of b.s promises that just say it to shut people up for the time being and then do what they want anyway...it was just another tactic the Estos were using and got beat at instead

I didn't do any feeding that I have complained about, that was ryans fault that it happened so go back to sitting there looking cool thinking you know everything

and leading by example I did for numerous sets against margus and what not but I cant be the only one who fights back because it gets boring, its going to be unpreventable at this rate

the idea of participating in it was to get an understanding of what the estos think when their doing it because if you don't get an understanding of the other persons reasonings than you will never solve the issue...maybe as the VP of Security you would have some actual security experience and understand what your doing so you can help better the game

LOL, you are beyond reasoning with...

[Visconte]

nobody agreed anything...everybody is full of b.s promises that just say it to shut people up for the time being and then do what they want anyway...it was just another tactic the Estos were using and got beat at instead


what tactics are you referring to? we just said we wont be playing as a team this set. of course that doesnt mean we should be left alone or not attacked. i understand everyone can play however they like but what did you hope to gain by giving us the same thing we gave you last rounds. i just dont understand the logic behind it. kill all the states to stop the killings for next sets. uhm...yes... we totally wont be killing you for the next half year now.


also about feeding, we played half the round just like everyone else. the winner of the round last round(paju/worm) had 35% tax for 15 days. after that he jumped to first and stayed there, THEN we started feeding him. he fought that place out on his own. so dont say you are doing the same, you are just feeding the top guy from day 1 and its pointless for everyone.

[MarineRecon]

there is reasoning pasha...I just get the aspects of everybodys views so I can get an understanding of how others are thinking instead of basing my beliefs in my direction...you have to get an understanding of how everybody plays to make changes so everybody can be happy with or at least come to an agreement...everybody is to busy stuck on the my way or the highway route instead of trying to get in the mind of others and coming up with logical changes for the better of the game instead of their personal egos...maybe you guys should all make an attempt to change for the better of the game instead of sitting there round after round on a power trip bickering with each other and not doing anything to fix the game...its only a matter of time before enough people quit and president shuts the game down if nothing gets better!!!

[Visconte]

Umm....well everyone else tried to do excatly that this round but you and your band of pupils came and destroyed everything people tried to build. How do you not understand the subterfuge of your words.

[MarineRecon]

I understand my words clearly...it just blows my mind that this argument is done every round and everybody always says we wont do it again and than sure enough it is done again just in a different way but when this topic gets brought up it gets defended on constantly -_-

again for the 100th and last time...im not agreeing with my participation in it this round but im also not disagreeing with it because as I have said before these tactics piss me off even more by being apart of it compared to having them done to me...and along the lines, everybody in here is blowing smoke up everybody else's *** to make themselves look like they are better than everybody else when in fact everybody is just mad they got beat at their own game first and will continue to do it round after round instead of realizing what its doing to the game and instead make the game better for the future

I at least will have an understanding of why the Estonians do what they do to win and I will also have the understanding of what the typical new player or veteran player just playing to stay around feels about it when its done to them so I can make fair judgment decisions about it instead of sitting there with a one sided opinion and never getting anything done...continue with your bickering im done with this thread

[Visconte]

I at least will have an understanding of why the Estonians do what they do to win and I will also have the understanding of what the typical new player or veteran player just playing to stay around feels about it when its done to them so I can make fair judgment decisions about it instead of sitting there with a one sided opinion and never getting anything done...continue with your bickering im done with this thread


What are you going to do with that understanding now? You didnt understand it before this round and needed to ruin the game for alot of people(not just my friends) to understand something that 99,9% other people understand as common sense in most cases. You and your DaK guys kill for peace actions just dont make any sense whatsoever. Just admit you guys wanted to win and adapted our way to achieve your goal. Not some bullshit excuses to make YOU the good guy. There is nothing wrong in wanting to win, just stand by your words and accept the consequences of becoming a target for future rounds. Thats how this game is built. Every action has a counteraction and every win makes others wanting your head some more.


But be noted, the round is not over just yet.

[Missionary]

I've never participated in how the people who win sets win but I get how they do it. Being apart of it isn't the only way to understand it.

Also marine,no1 has done it this set apart from you. So I'm not sure what your trying to prove. People agreeded not to do it and no1 was until you ruined it......good work lol.

[Visconte]

hum...

[Superpasha69]

Marine, i stopped reading your replies coz they are full of shit, but from what others guys say...they are right...you totally killed your reputation.

[ph00ktastic]

So I got taken down as well, despite playing solo and not making any offensive actions whatsoever.
Congrats guys, enjoy the rest of the set without food and oil ;)

[Superpasha69]

So I got taken down as well, despite playing solo and not making any offensive actions whatsoever.
Congrats guys, enjoy the rest of the set without food and oil ;)

Now you know what it feels like when all the others guys feed the top state...oh wait, did I get some things mixed up? :?

[ph00ktastic]

Sorry, but I'm not following you.
What does feeding the top state have to do with killing one low-ranked farmer? Not to mention, top benefited from both my food/oil and extra land I was providing.

[Superpasha69]

Sorry, but I'm not following you.
What does feeding the top state have to do with killing one low-ranked farmer? Not to mention, top benefited from both my food/oil and extra land I was providing.

absolutely nothing, but that is the reason marine giving to everyone for killing them

[northbabylon]

Just fyi... nip/Za warred est, and other similar nations for a year mostly due to feeding. So to say your the only on standing up is silly.


As for phook. Before I attack too state, I wad attacked by spies because of my stick. At the point I had 0 SAs and not even a. Full bank. But according to a source, I was attacked because they were threatened by my stock. Can anyone elaborate on this?

[blaa]

Just fyi... nip/Za warred est, and other similar nations for a year mostly due to feeding. So to say your the only on standing up is silly.


As for phook. Before I attack too state, I wad attacked by spies because of my stick. At the point I had 0 SAs and not even a. Full bank. But according to a source, I was attacked because they were threatened by my stock. Can anyone elaborate on this?

I can elaborate on this.

Lets say I was choosing sides and I chose Lem/Marine. So when the top guy asked me to take care some of the states, I chose you because you had 0 spies. I then asked heyneken to kill you (he had enough turns), but he decided to build/cash for some of his turns so in the end he was roughly 150 turns short.

Later when I succesfully grabbed the top guy, he said that it was my elaborate plan all along:
*I made you AA him to weaken him
*So I could grab him!
Plus there was a third reason to kill me (which wasn't wrong):
*I shouldn't have grabbed the topstate mid war (after all, at that time the war could have gone either way)

I hope my restart can finish this set, I won't be picking sides anymore :D

[northbabylon]

I can elaborate on this.

Lets say I was choosing sides and I chose Lem/Marine. So when the top guy asked me to take care some of the states, I chose you because you had 0 spies. I then asked heyneken to kill you (he had enough turns), but he decided to build/cash for some of his turns so in the end he was roughly 150 turns short.

Later when I succesfully grabbed the top guy, he said that it was my elaborate plan all along:
*I made you AA him to weaken him
*So I could grab him!
Plus there was a third reason to kill me (which wasn't wrong):
*I shouldn't have grabbed the topstate mid war (after all, at that time the war could have gone either way)

I hope my restart can finish this set, I won't be picking sides anymore :D

What kind of threat could I have posed? lol I think I was on the 2nd page at some point lol.

[blaa]

Like you later demonstrated you succesfully AAd him.

[northbabylon]

Which was a result of those said attacks.

But granted I did tell marine since day 1 that I would attack top state.

[SoreGums]

so what was #163's deal (were they the OP?)
bit random attacking me and wasting turns I thought...

Thanks to the peeps who killed them, haha - so how about you declare peace on me then ;)

[Lord Burch]

Um guys, I must have missed something, but what the heck does this have to do with the title 'Emperor of March' I'm pretty confused here.