Peak Oil and the Decline of America

[-Z-]

Peak oil has been reached, and every day that we continue to depend on oil for all our production needs is another day we dig ourselves and our offspring into a hole.

Unless something extremely innovative is devised to save modern civilization from demise, INFINITE growth will Collide with FINITE energy and our way of life will collapse.

I am not sure if this will happen in my lifetime, but I feel it will, Once people understand the situation we are in, things will progress quickly. Life will become much more localized, a majority of city dwellers will perish due to food shortages, lack of fresh water and energy, and the looting and riots that these situations will cause.

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[-Z-]

And Everyone chooses Ignorance, or claims conspiracy theory, while disregarding actual facts.


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[Divine Intervention]

you havent provided any (backed up) facts or research, rather your interpretation of whats going to happen

[-Z-]

Umm... ok Anton...

For you and for those of you who pay no attention to what has been happening, and do not make any effort to look into such important issues until they are shoved in your face:

What is Peak oil?

"The term Peak Oil refers to the maximum rate of the production of oil in any area under consideration, recognising that it is a finite natural resource, subject to depletion."





Investors speak
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...12/26/8364646/

Geologists
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre..._campbell.html

Physicists Speak
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre..._end_oil.shtml

Bankers speak
http://www.texasmonthly.com/preview/2008-02-01/feature2

2005 was Peak Oil
http://www.princeton.edu/hubbert/current-events.html

Worldwide demand for oil will outpace worldwide production
http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/21/comm...umn_hays/hays/

WARS for OIL
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/1888/




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062301896.html

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...long_emergency

http://www.peakoil.net/




Graph: The Energy Curve of History
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/...veHistory2.jpg


All forms of modern technology are actually petroleum products!

"Petrochemicals are key components to much more than just the gas in your car. As of the year 2002, approximately 10 calories of fossil fuels are required to produce every 1 calorie of food eaten in the US. Source The size of this ratio stems from the fact that every step of modern food production is fossil fuel and petrochemical powered:

Pesticides and agro-chemicals are made from oil;

Commercial fertilizers are made from ammonia, which is made from natural gas, which is also peaking in the near future. Source

Most farming implements such as tractors and trailers are constructed and powered using oil-derived fuels.

Food storage systems such as refrigerators are manufactured in oil-powered plants, distributed using oil-powered transportation networks and usually run on electricity, which most often comes from natural gas or coal. Like oil and natural gas, coal too is peaking in the near future. Source

In the US, the average piece of food is transported almost 1,500 miles before it gets to your plate. Source In Canada, the average piece of food is transported 5,000 miles from where it is produced to where it is consumed. Source"










http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

[-Z-]

you havent provided any (backed up) facts or research, rather your interpretation of whats going to happen

aaaaaand everyone is still not caring.


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[Divine Intervention]

its not a topic that interests me massively ill admit (plus i have a massive essay to do on american healthcare underinsurance and rising premiums). im just trying to get you into the habit of providing research/facts when you make these kind of threads - back up for your claims/opinions etc etc

[-Z-]

its not a topic that interests me massively ill admit (plus i have a massive essay to do on american healthcare underinsurance and rising premiums). im just trying to get you into the habit of providing research/facts when you make these kind of threads - back up for your claims/opinions etc etc

well I appreciate that!

hopefully I have given enough sources there (a wide variety) to appease most people.

At least Anton makes a post about it! , no one else says anything, .


I care about it because it concerns the not so distant future of the human race.

Maybe it will not effect me in a devastating way (maybe It will), but my younger relatives will def. have their ways changed.

People will look back on this age and think that all humans now were incredibly stupid. and collectively we have been stupid.

We focus on profits and ventures of the next 5 years. while thoese very ventures will contribute to ensuring that future generations will not have the same opportunities as we have now.

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[Mahdi]

I'm safe roughly 75% of the food I eat is either grown or killed, without using pesticides. Tractors are used, but we also have the horses and the horse drawn plows for when the tractors break and having grown up in a very rural area aka bum **** egypt. I know how to survive on twigs and berries if need be. If push comes to shove, I hear humans taste like beef

[Piker]

There are plenty of oil fields all over the world, ie the huge one in Utah/rockies that is larger than the entire middle eastern field. Russia has oil shale that eclipses any known source of oil in total volume. The US and Russia are waiting for the Saudi's et. al. to run out of oil before they start building their infrastructure to rule the oil world for the next two hundred years...

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There are plenty of oil fields all over the world, ie the huge one in Utah/rockies that is larger than the entire middle eastern field. Russia has oil shale that eclipses any known source of oil in total volume. The US and Russia are waiting for the Saudi's et. al. to run out of oil before they start building their infrastructure to rule the oil world for the next two hundred years...

Yes they are just waiting. because thats what people do, they wait 200 years for power.
????????


There is no arguing that there is PLENTY of oil left.

but when U need to burn 99.9% of a barrel of oil in order to get 1 barrel of oil out of the ground then it becomes irrelevant.

The large fields that remain are under floating ice caps, thousands of feet of rock, or otherwise inaccessible.

America and Russia are not WAITING to gain power.



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