Equal treatment under the law

[Firestorm7]

so your telling me that you want to have a career in landscaping, fast food, or a bottom of the food chain job? I don't, that's why I went to college and challenged myself. If peole are fine with where they are at then so be it.

[Will]

raise the wages and you'll get the people. minimum wage of about 12$/hour would be a good start.

[Firestorm7]

Why pay someone $12/h when the job does not deserve the pay increase... anyone can do those jobs that's why they are not paid that much... besides janitors can make a good living....

[Xavior]

Why pay someone $12/h when the job does not deserve the pay increase... anyone can do those jobs that's why they are not paid that much... besides janitors can make a good living....

Where would we be if there was no City cleanup crew? No one to take your trash, no one to sweep the snow, salt the roads?

Yes, they are the "lower" jobs that few want. But they are essential to any society. It starts from the ground up. To say they deserve to be poor is totally ignorant and elitist.

Try thinking of the overall picture, and not just for yourself. Because you are part of the overall picture.

[mechdestroyer]

All those jobs do get good money, they probably deserve more too.
I know why illegals or legal immagrants work fast food. I worked at mcdonalds for 2 summers, it is bc you really dont have to know english. Break can be signed, # are fine but that is why. Working the cooks and stuff not the drive through or cashier. Same for farm work and gardening. You really dont need to know english.

So im guessing for the 50% tax after 100k you are not for equal treatment under the law?

You would be fine with politicians getting away with crimes bc they are politicians. Probably not.

Then why whould differentiate here and there. Doesnt the man who worked or hired people to make the 100k deserve his money that he made, same as the man working for 20k or less or more.

We all agree that people have the right to own property and to use and do with that property what he wishes. Other than things that infringe on others rights and liberty. Right?

That every individual also has the responsibility to give up a portion of that property to go to defence of this country. And that every individual in the eyes of the law is equal.

I think the problem is too many people when they make it big is to go public and make it a corporation. Then all that matters is making profits at any cost. It is illegal for them not to try to make profits. Removes the people from the process.

Then corporations have rights. I say no way they should. Only individuals have rights. Not entities.

[Zeonic]

I'll complain all I want about being taxed 50% when I make 100k... I worked **** hard for my money and took the time get an education to get to that point...

Have you considered the rising costs to get a good college education? Or the local situations where there simply isn't a good job market and $20-30k is the average for a family?

Nevermind also that minimum wage doesn't change with inflation.

[ranger2112]

first of all, how are we supposed to elect someone that will change things if NO ONE IS ON THE TICKET?? cant vote if their name isnt there.
Second, Will last time i checked communism failed and is now a bankrupt way of life..if u call living in China a life, then sure go ahead and immigrate
third, income taxes were implemented as a temp way for the govt to raise money that has never stopped. i am tired of working and not getting my full pay.
fourth, the BEST suggestion i have heard is make a Federal sales tax to go along with state and local and stay out of my paycheck. also paying SS should be voluntary...i have a nice 401k and other means of preparing for my older years.
lastly, a recession is coming, it cannot be avoided we must just weather the storm until things clear up. like the criminal oil companies stop raping us at the gas pump is a good start. i smoke and drink and would not blink if the increased taxes on those products instead of a necessity like petroleum

so there is my two cents worth.

[Zeonic]

Second, Will last time i checked communism failed and is now a bankrupt way of life..if u call living in China a life, then sure go ahead and immigrate

Except that, actual communism has never existed. Under Marxism, communism exists when class and state are dissolved. All countries claiming "communism" never went past the socialist stage and onto communism. They always reverted back to some form of socialism or capitalism.

[Xavior]

And just what is wrong with living in China?

You guys have been subject to too much western propaganda. Have you ever been to China? Ever lived there? Please do so before expressing your ignorant opinion.

[Will]

first of all, how are we supposed to elect someone that will change things if NO ONE IS ON THE TICKET?? cant vote if their name isnt there.
Second, Will last time i checked communism failed and is now a bankrupt way of life..if u call living in China a life, then sure go ahead and immigrate
third, income taxes were implemented as a temp way for the govt to raise money that has never stopped. i am tired of working and not getting my full pay.
fourth, the BEST suggestion i have heard is make a Federal sales tax to go along with state and local and stay out of my paycheck. also paying SS should be voluntary...i have a nice 401k and other means of preparing for my older years.
lastly, a recession is coming, it cannot be avoided we must just weather the storm until things clear up. like the criminal oil companies stop raping us at the gas pump is a good start. i smoke and drink and would not blink if the increased taxes on those products instead of a necessity like petroleum

so there is my two cents worth.

You think you have it bad with petrol prices? try living in the UK.

Petroleum cannot be truly considered a necessity for an individual. A decent public transport system would go a long way to reducing demand for it and in those cases where it is truly necessary the company should provide a tax deductible allowance for it. SS - Social Security I presume. Sure the rich may not need it but others certainly do. The person with 401k cannot reasonably complain about paying 10-20k to help people worse off. Tax rates in the US are obscenely low by European standards.

The US badly needs the following:

Improved public transport (Buses and Trains)
A true publicly funded national health service (from what I've heard medicaid is really crap)
progressive taxation to really force the rich to pay their way.

If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson could see the US today, they would wish they'd never rebelled in the first place.