Is US better?

[Warl0rd]

You mean my family wasn't born here? you mean my ancestors came here
on a boat and made this there home?

What he meant was almost all the population of US has origins in other countries, especially Europe.

How long can you track back your familly?

[Mr President]

i know what he meant.. i was being sarcastic.

We all came over on a boat and thanked the Indians for holding our land
till we could get here. then we gave them 25 acres and said here live on
this..

[Spetznaz_GRU]

CODES OF THE WEST

(authorship unknown)

ya think? gee what gave you the first clue?

See, this is why I'm saying that you're a retard. Nevermind. Cops are never that smart. Anyway, if the author is unknown, then how can you even track it back to history? I mean for all I know some dink could have written it to make the old west look cool and civilized. It's as bad as watching a john wayne movie.

You mean my family wasn't born here? you mean my ancestors came here
on a boat and made this there home?

Yes, it's not your country. I understand people migrate somewhere, but not by killing the native inhabitants and taking their land. So this makes it absolutely uncivilized.

keep trying...

And you say something about my comebacks? Mwuahahaha, you're the lames Prez, you're the lamest.

[ranger2112]

hmm, i know what my ancestors did to this country and its "original" inhabitants. of course they werent either. there are theories that they too migrated from other regions as well. o wait, my ancestors came here under different circumstances. i ask all of those non-Americans here, which one of your countries NEVER gained an acre of land through aggression or war? Which one of your countries has no violent history. NONE i would venture to guess. i know , yeah but look at us now we are so nice and no guns..blah blah blah. first your countries are MUCH older than ours so we have had less time. given our state of affairs and age and compare that to your countries at their same age...say a couple hundred years old and we are a lot less violent and aggressive. maybe our way of life or laws are different than yours and seem repulsive to you, the fact remains we ARE the big dog one the block and you are not. compare to this game someone said..the top nation will always get bashed.. so bash away ya'll.. i would rather be bashed for living here in the good ole USA vs living there!!

[Spetznaz_GRU]

Wait, don't bring Russia into this. I was talking about the West countries. Of course Russia isn't having a proper system right now, and I never claimed that. It would be weird for me to say: USA should be like Russia. You should always look up and not down. I was comparing it to countries like France, UK, Germany and the Netherlands. All those countries gave the lands (colonies) back to their people unless those people wanted to remain with that country (for example the Dutch Antilles). And none of these countries stood still in their development. None of these countries has the same gun laws as they had back then. All of these countries abolished the death sentence. Sorry Warlord, you can count Portugal in as well, because it's absolutely the same in this matter as the countries I mentioned.

[ranger2112]

Taiwan was only a few years ago. but the very lands the countries stand on now were won through aggression and war. u think France was always that big? Spain. **** no. that was over time. they are now a United country surrounded by one border, as are we. also, two thirds of this country was either bought or won from other countries...France-Louisiana purchase, texas won their ind. and later joined the union, Spain had entire chuncks of the west. this was how things were done. France, England and Spain conquered the natives of this land, the resulting union created into the United states was a by-product of that. simple as that

[Spetznaz_GRU]

Taiwan was only a few years ago. but the very lands the countries stand on now were won through aggression and war. u think France was always that big? Spain. **** no. that was over time. they are now a United country surrounded by one border, as are we. also, two thirds of this country was either bought or won from other countries...France-Louisiana purchase, texas won their ind. and later joined the union, Spain had entire chuncks of the west. this was how things were done. France, England and Spain conquered the natives of this land, the resulting union created into the United states was a by-product of that. simple as that

This is total bullcrap. Spain is one of the countries I didn't mention, because the Basque nation wants independence. All the other countries you mention (in Europe). France; all the states in France spoke French and had about the same culture. All of them want to be in France. England, same ****, N-Ireland is occupied to keep the peace. Spain used to be Catalonia and bla bla bla, but they still don't have the gun laws and their country has been created in the medieval times. That's when people threw their **** out on the streets. You wanna compare yourself to that?

And about the native nations being conquered by the ones you mentioned... The Normans taking England from th Kelts and Brits? Or what are you talking about? How long has this been ago? I don't see any Kelts having uprisings or the Burgundians have uprisings against France. How long ago did Wounded Knee occur? Exactly, not even 40 years ago.

[ranger2112]

my point is simple. QUIT TALKING ABOUT THE POOR INDIANS. yeah it was a crappy deal they got, but no country has clean hands in getting to their current status. PERIOD. i am trying to address your problems with us one at a time. (((for such a problem country we sure seem to have our fair share of people wanting to live here because it is actually safer))) most crime stats are centralize into certain regions giving the average crime rate a boost. the bulk of this country lives virtually crime-free(statistically speaking of course).

[Spetznaz_GRU]

my point is simple. QUIT TALKING ABOUT THE POOR INDIANS. yeah it was a crappy deal they got, but no country has clean hands in getting to their current status. PERIOD. i am trying to address your problems with us one at a time. (((for such a problem country we sure seem to have our fair share of people wanting to live here because it is actually safer))) most crime stats are centralize into certain regions giving the average crime rate a boost. the bulk of this country lives virtually crime-free(statistically speaking of course).

Crime stats in the Netherlands are centralize as well. And your argument that people want to live there is very poor. People from Afghanistan, Georgia, Armenia , well anyway all the Caucasus nations, old USSR nations (except for the Baltic states) and, China and Mongolia move to Russia too. So by your argument, this makes Russia a good and peaceful country. I don't think so. Try again.

At least we agree that you were sons of *****es to the Indians.

[ranger2112]

well, the original colonies which was the eastern part took their land, the french in central US took their lands there and the Spanish in the west did theirs...wasnt Mexico also loaded with natives too. I am sure their original language was NOT Spanish.