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    Quote Originally Posted by KLL View Post
    Technicaly Atheism can be considered a religion.

    Well thats the abuse of th religion. I don't really recall a passage i nthe bible or koran suggestign one should go and kill all non-belivers.
    The childrens crusade was just a case of thousands of kids going somewhere to do stuff, getting lost on the way and then get kidnaped and end up as slaves. Basicaly like your average school tour in Laos or pre-2000 Cambodia.

    A buddah is anyone who has reached the buddhist stage of englightenment.
    the happy fat guy is Siddhārtha Gautama and a prophet. It'd be like calling Jesus god

    on god in buddhism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Buddhism

    oh and mind you, buddhists are jsut as notorious at frighting wars as anyone else, however probably to an lesser extent because of religion.
    actually, the Koran is full of passages relating to killing the non-believers
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    - Baqara (2):190 - "And fight (qaatiloo) in the way of Allah those who fight you."

    - Baqara (2):193 - "Fight them (qaatiloohum), till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah's"

    - Baqara (2):244 - "So fight (qaatiloo) in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is all-hearing, all-knowing."

    - Nisaa' (4):76 - "Those who are believers fight (yuqaatiloona) in the way of Allah, and the unbelievers fight in the idols' way. So fight (qaatiloo) the friends of Satan; surely the guile of Satan is ever feeble."

    - al-Anfaal (8):39 - "Fight them (qaatiloohum), till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah's entirely."

    - al-Taubah (9):12 - "But if they break their oaths after their covenant and thrust at your religion, then fight (qaatiloo) the leaders of unbelief."

    - al-Taubah (9):29 - "Fight (qaatiloo) those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and his messenger have forbidden -- such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book -- until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled."

    - al-Taubah (9):123 - "O believers, fight (qaatiloo) the unbelievers (kuffaar) who are near to you, and let them find in you a harshness (ghilza)."

    - Baqara (2):191 - "And slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you come upon them"

    - Baqara (2):191 - "But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then if they fight you, slay them (aqtuloohum) -- such is the recompense of unbelievers."

    - Nisaa' (4):89 - "then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you find them"

    - Nisaa' (4):91 - "If they withdraw not from you, and offer you peace, and restrain their hands, take them, and slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you come on them; against them we have given you a clear authority."

    - al-Taubah (9):5 - "Then when the sacred months are drawn away, slay (aqtuloo) the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush."

    - Nisaa' (4):74 - "So let them fight (yuqaatil) in the way of Allah who sell the present life for the world to come; and whosoever fights (yuqaatil) in the way of Allah and is slain, or conquers, we shall bring him a mighty wage."

    - Muhammad (47):4 - "When you meet the unbelievers, smite (darba) their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads."
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    - Baqara (2):190 - "And fight (qaatiloo) in the way of Allah those who fight you."
    Doesn't necessarily mean killing. in fact very unlikely

    - Baqara (2):193 - "Fight them (qaatiloohum), till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah's"
    again, no mention of killing and it also is about persecution mainly

    doesn't mention killing anywhere except the following
    - Baqara (2):191 - "And slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you come upon them"
    no context

    - Baqara (2):191 - "But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then if they fight you, slay them (aqtuloohum) -- such is the recompense of unbelievers."
    again no context but clearly implies self-defense

    - Nisaa' (4):89 - "then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you find them"
    that one really is nasty, no context tho. might jsut aswell be a non-muslim saying that. especaiyl as there is no mention of allah, unlike the other ones where it jsut talks about "fight"

    i know people who studied the koran and they vouch for it.

    i tend to belive muslim fists i knwo rather than people on the itnernet citing uncourced texts that are translated

    its not untill you read the same text or book in two or three langauges till you notice how much gets lsot in translation

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    just be careful with all that sand, dont let it get in your eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranger2112 View Post
    just be careful with all that sand, dont let it get in your eyes
    i got glases

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    good one
    There is no greater sin than apathy


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    ooooo u gonna get it now
    There is no greater sin than apathy


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    Can a mod close this please, sorry I knocked on this door. Apparently intelligent discussion is impossible


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    wait, how is that picture any different than posting one of a kid riding a donkey in a thread concerning Mexicans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Chris- View Post
    Can a mod close this please, sorry I knocked on this door. Apparently intelligent discussion is impossible
    Done

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