Serious War discussion

**Vortex** · 05-17-2010, 17:02

Originally Posted by Soviet Russia

Althoug I have to agree with the thumbs up. Why do you make comments like
"why should I wait for a n00b from ABT to strike me"?? I think this shows a mentality. Im not gonna start a pissing contest who has the most sets or wars under his belt. But respect or acknowledgement towards other nations/players is something that is missing here in my opinion. Even if its your "enemy" when theyve done a great job are you too proud to say it?

**Soviet Russia** · 05-18-2010, 01:52

oh no I did not mean that. It was an example. And "waiting a n00b from ABT to attack" is meaningless (that was what I meant) because there is no n00b in ABT, that means, there'd be no triple SAs

**Xavior** · 05-18-2010, 02:11

When I first joined the game, I found that the warring aspect was an integral part which made the game enjoyable and allowed you to use teamwork to win. Without warring, you could pretty much play by yourself in a tag and jump into a nation when you have enough stock, but what is the fun in that? The problem now is that the constant risk we had before is gone. Before, many many players were doing ARs, GAs, AAs randomly to anyone they saw. If you did not have teamates to back you up and to retaliate, you could be overwhelmed very quickly.

There was a lot more random wars back then. My first serious nation CW, we were warred endlessly it seemed and we got our asses handed to us month after month. Yet I don't recall anyone of us quitting because of it. The mentality these days that if I die, I'm going to quit because this is a netting game is simply rediculous. When Empire wiped us out, we warred them back the very next month even though I think we got killed off again (maybe Max can confirm this?

). Revenge was fun, and war was what made me stay. I did not have a real 'netting' set until maybe half a year after I registered.

Whats changed these days? Honestly, I can't put my finger on it. No longer are alliances important in this game. When I was in Empire in the first few months of its existance , I was in contact with 5-6 other midsized nations setting up possible alliances or defensive pacts because everyone was under constant threat of war. If a big nation warred us, we had to be ready to call in our allies.

Another example. Farm Wars was a new nation back in 2003 led by Mystery Dave. It had 6-7 players in it, all new. MysteryDave posted on the forums one day saying that FW was being picked on by some US Navy Seals nation and they kept on being killed by them. I was FA of Empire at that time, and I arranged for Empire to come in and help FW. This formed a long lasting alliance and friendship betwen Empire and Farm Wars that lasted for years. It was during the same period where I also setup other relationships with USA (also new) and Hawkeye's nation (SB) and Foxhounds nation (later merged with Hawkeye's).

This would never have happened if you weren't constantly in danger of being warred whether by guys like LoR or Empire, or by noobs like US Navy Seals. So quite honestly, every time I see someone say, oh, you're killing my noobs, or you just wiped out my nation, I'm going to quit now, I think maybe its better for these players to quit. The less players we have with this type of mentality, the better in the long haul (if they don't quit, and they get warred again next year, won't they threaten to quit again?).

**Magalya2** · 05-18-2010, 12:57

In my first post , i have been a little like a devil advocate for a few things bad bad me

Sometime to push to the extreme bring reactions hehe

NW game is a forum community driving game somewhere and for me i was very happy to find such a great community when the game i come from have close

And true that we find in the forum the hard cores that have stick to the game and forum even in it's downfall after WoW close surely hoping for better days to come and it all honor you

And luckily Mr President is very close to NW members giving his heart for the game to make it work good and sometime it must be disheartened to read reactions or to see actions taken by few in the game that could possibly hurt it bad .

Grudges usually never bring good and true that with so many years being together in this game and forum , scars are there that can be hard to heal but with the community being smaller it become a MUST to make Peace and shake hands .

Leave on the side pre concepts and have FUN together playing a War game

For the newb i was and still is when i looked at the ''All State Scores '' and see the Top Netters , they become for me example and geee i would like to understand how they do so

I have much respect for them and if one is in my clan , with the ''View'' option , i am sure happy to be able to look at the way they build their State and i gave a look also at attacks they made without understanding how come they get so much lands with their attacks and not me

I would be ready to die for them if need be

I would not be too worry for newbies if a War breaks against the Clan they are in.

It is one crucial moment when leaders and vets in the clan they are in become even more teachers and supporters for them and depending on the attitude taken , can make the difference in sticking to the NW Game or leave

Each time there has been a War against the Nation i was in , it was time for me to ask ''What should i buy '' to help protect my State or to be more efficient in the War and my my How excited it can be

I do believe that when a State die and that we start a new one again , 100 turns is too low and i would like again to suggest that it increase to 200 turns at least making it more interesting to build back as fast as possible and be ready again to War ... and maybe die another time

I sure would like to see , like i have propose somewhere , the PINK thing identifying Terrorists in the ''All State Scores '' work and an option for anyone who would like too ,to War them till Death as they do a CRIME against the Nation War Lands .

A 1 turn cost per attack against Terrorists

Like we have Visits from Aliens bringing us surprise , if it was possible to code , i would propose to see Terrorist identify in Pinkautomatically ( if the suiciding is made using ''Illegal Spy Op '' if i can say so or ''Illegal AA , GA ,AR,BR ) since their actions were made in time of peace without any official War declaration .

It could happen when ever the Aliens would visit but at least their would be a possibility for everyone to know who they are and an Option to kill their State

Ohh and the ''Pink'' following them for the Set when they recreate a new State

Suiciding would become more ''At your own Risk and Peril '' and be punishable

Like they say : When we play with fire ... we burn

In an ideal world , there would not be any Terrorists actions but it seems it is hard to reach

We all share the same Play Ground bringing our personality and style of play

Attitude , Mutual Respect do make a difference

Lady Mags ☼

**Dogma** · 05-18-2010, 14:26

Originally Posted by Magalya2