NW Patriot Act (Suicide / Cheater policy)

[Mr President]

For many sets now there has been a huge amount of outcry from the community about cheaters and suiciders. Both equally hard to deal with from a admin stand point. As easy as some may think solving these issues can be, i once again remind you, it's not!

Since the game came back, i have vowed to take on the suiciding issue. Each set i bring it up and continue to ask people to put forth ideas. Though none of the ideas are solid, they are good ones. And the way i look at it, we AT LEAST need a starting point to work from.

In past polls, the community felt that Admins should not be involved in the suiciding issue, and most believed it was part of the game.. Well it seems now that opinion has changed. And honestly, i can't sit here set after set and watch people getting suicided. So as popular or unpopular it may be, admins will now intervene with the suiciding issues.

First, the definition of what a suicide really is. And basically it's simple. Someone who destroys someone else for no reason or logical/stratigical gain.

We can make it sound more fancier, but really, that is all it is. So now that we have defined it, it will now be against the rules to suicide.

Here is the admins part in all of this. Each suicide will be reviewed by both game admins. (myself & Tnova) and if both agree that is a sucicide then the suicider gets deleted and the suicided gets his/her state rolled back to the last backup they had. Unless he/she asks that it's not rolled back.

Open discussions about who should get there state back bla bla bla will be ignored if not deleted. All i want from people is either a PM or a simple post alerting us to who was suicided, and then we will look into this. If you seek a roll back you need to make a post in the Report Cheaters section of the forums. Anyplace else will be ignored.

Each case will be looked at closely. If it doesn't fit the definition, then nothing is done. Basically, it has to be a very clear that it was a suicide. Seeing Tnova and myself are active in the game, it's easier for us to keep track on who has vendettas against who, so if someone hits someone else in revenge, it's not a suicide.. It's a war! Also, it is advised that you don't cry wolf. If every week of every set you cry suicide, chances are your posts will be less important.. So please only report the ones you know are a suicide.

Also, as we move forward, things will be implemented to make it harder to suicide. I'll update this post as they are implemented.

If a member suicides often, they will be put on the three strike rule.. Read below for further details on the 3 strike rule.



-CHEATERS-

Well it's no secret that some of you seem to have made a career in cheating. And so far the worst that has happened is you lose your state. there is truly no way to 100% ban someone from the game due to proxies and other things, but we sure can make life harder for you. From this point on we are going by the 3 strike rule.

1st offense- Mistakes can happen. People may not know you can't have more then one account. I know i made 2 when i first started playing .. So each 1st offense case will be looked at closely. Punishment will be pink name in the forums and a stern warning.

2nd offense- Pink name in the forums, name added to the known terrorist list and your name will be highlited in pink on the socres sheet each time you play from the date of your second offense. No set time on when it will be removed. Guess it depends on you.

3rd offense- Your gone! See ya!

Your account will be banned along with anything else we can do to make sure you can't play. And though you may sneak back in, as soon as we find you, your gone again.. And we will keep doing this over and over. And trust me when i say, you will grow more tired of it long before we will.


These steps are by far the largest attempt we have taken to help control certain aspects of the game. I'm not a huge fan of an admin having his hands to much in the mix, but clearly something needs to be done. If perhaps things get more under control and cheating/suiciding levels decrease, then so will this patriot act.

This is only a starting point. As we grow and move forward, i am certain that changes will have to made to this act. But it's a starting point to work from.. And it's way over due..

Best thing to do is, not cheat or suicide..

[Hoebawt]

Cheers i dotn agree with the real patriot act but this one here is good

Mr P u should consider putting punishments on Natinos that allow 2-3 time offenders into their nation that still break the law

[-Z-]

so...


what if someone is in his/her own nation...


Say.... 2 friends (for example me and hoe) decide that we have been wronged by a certain nation or State.

next set we make a nation with the soul intention of warring that state/nation when the time is right.


We do so.



What is this?


Can only large nations goto war now>?

Z

[Will]

If you have been wronged then you have reason to hit.

[Mr President]

so...


what if someone is in his/her own nation...


Say.... 2 friends (for example me and hoe) decide that we have been wronged by a certain nation or State.

next set we make a nation with the soul intention of warring that state/nation when the time is right.


We do so.



What is this?


Can only large nations goto war now>?

Z

if someone hits someone else in revenge, it's not a suicide.. It's a war!

[Calvin74]

pres i really like that you are taknig a stand but it will make it interesting to say the least how suiciding evolves over time in this game

since it would also seem like when a large nation hits a smaller nation for no real reason that could be deemed a suicide and then you would have to delete all members (for example and i have no way of knowing the reason behind it but when EE hit SLOB if there was no reason then would you delete all of EE?)

[Green]

Can I be the first person to be considered for a rollback?

Cause, I logged in and was asked to make a new state. I went irl.

[Mr President]

It's really not that hard to tell a suicide attack from a reg war. Right now the game is small and this is manageable. Pretty much each set it's the same people who suicide anyway, so this really isn't going to be difficult.

What this really does is add a lot more work for us.. Work neither Tnova or myself have the extra time for.. So this will cut into time already spent on the game. So that means slower implements..

Suiciding hurts many areas of the game.. Not just states.

This is not something i really wanted to do. But it must be done. Our member base is small so suicides are highly noticeable. If we have 1,000 members, they won't stand out as much and this act would prob stop.

[Green]

It's really not that hard to tell a suicide attack from a reg war.

Killed without provocation doesn't count as suicide?

[Divine Intervention]

im all for stopping suicides and im glad that measures are being taken but i can't help that think that this will usher in an era of 100% infantry states...tbh reading this just made me understand that bit more why something earlier wasn't done. this is about as good as we can get with a solution yet there are still flaws..anyway..v.good to see things done and that admins are willing to take a stronger stance on the issues!

@ Green - SLOB is most likely all going to die with EE maybe losing 1-2 states. hardly suicide. just a BS war...but not suicide.