Massive Presidential Thread

[-Z-]

and im not sure if the democrats would do better..

I do not think the democrats would have ignored 911.


also they would not have capitalized on it to profiteer in Iraq.

I think they would have went into pakistan and afgahnistan if anywhere.

The economy under clinton was good...

Z

[Mr President]

1st I was trying to make light of things...

2nd i find it a touch hypocritical for u to call Hillary Evil (even tho I agree) when u are criticizeing my words... which were the same.

I mdo agree it is very possible for Palin to be Vice...

See In Canada... we have 4-6 contending parties.... not 2.

and parties form and reform and contest... a decade ago the Reform part took somthing like 20% of the national vote, that was only a 5 year thing...

just shedding some light on our system...


Im not sure what Canada does that is so horrible... people keep saying fix your own country... most of the things that trouble me about my country stem from amerikan policy.

it was when I was watching the republican Convention... and I saw Palin make alot of sarcastic remarks, and attacking Obama...

instead of saying anything about her platform... aside from Drill and war.


it was her sarcasim and jokes in the face of the situation the people of america faces that made me see her as evil.

Z

There is a difference. I have spent the last 16 years getting to know Mrs Clinton.

The reason i said something to you about this was cause Palin just came into the spotlight.. Nobody knows anything about her yet. Just bugs me when people say stuff about someone they don't know much about. Before any judgments can be made on her, lets see how she does when she does some interviews and one on one against Biden.. That is of course if he is still the VP in a few weeks.. I have it in the back of my mind that all of a sudden he won't be able to fullfill his VP duties and then Hillary will be the one getting it.

anyway, so your troubles stem from american policy? Well then change your policies so ours don't hurt you as bad.

And You didn't see Palin attacking Obama, you saw her defending herself from all the cracks that has been made against her. If they can dish it, they better be ready to take it. This chick doesn't mess around.

She has proven to have character. She fought off the oil companies.. That is a huge task. They come in and offer anyone else billions and they jump on it no matter what.. She didn't do that. She looked at the pros and cons and the cons out weighed them.. So she said NO!

and im not sure if the democrats would do better..

I do not think the democrats would have ignored 911.


also they would not have capitalized on it to profiteer in Iraq.

I think they would have went into pakistan and afgahnistan if anywhere.

The economy under clinton was good...

Z

The democrats wouldn't have totally ignored 9/11 only cause the people of this great land wanted revenge.. But they never would have gone this far to get it. Don't forget your buddy Clinton was president when they hit the towers the first time and we didn't do anything. And when Clinton was told about Osama, he pushed him off as a little threat. We had him back then, but the democrats didn't feel he was any major threat..

And it's not just the republicans who are profiting from the war in Iraq..

And the economy that fell in Clintons lap was from the reagan era.. Everyone knows you can't turn an economy the size of ours around in 8yrs.. You put things in play. Perhaps Clinton could have gotten the job done better if he didn't have to sit in court explaining why he felt the need to cheat on his wife in the office of the American people..

[Will]

I have heard Palin being compared to Margaret Thatcher, so I can understand why Z hates her.

[Xavior]

anyway, so your troubles stem from american policy? Well then change your policies so ours don't hurt you as bad.

I hope you are joking, because you know why exactly this cannot work.

[-Z-]

Palin Claims that the American Forces are In Iraq on a Mission from God.

Doing Gods work.



A day in Palins mind :

1: wake up, worship GWB, practice evil look in mirror for 2 hours

2: steal condoms from all local pregnancy and health centers and burn them all in a massive fire.

3: Think... What would jesus do... of course! bomb them all!

4: Worship GWB further.

5: Thank god for the distraction of Iraq

6: Kill a few dozen polar bears for fun.

7: Wish there was more war... maybe in India?

8: Drink 3 gallons of Crude Oil, and a glass of milk.

9: Mate

10: Sleep and repeat.







She actually thinks iraq is gods plan, and that US forces are doing the work of god.

Z

[Dogma]

and im not sure if the democrats would do better..

I do not think the democrats would have ignored 911.


also they would not have capitalized on it to profiteer in Iraq.

I think they would have went into pakistan and afgahnistan if anywhere.

The economy under clinton was good...

Z

you are a socialist, America DOES NOT WANT TO BE SOCIALIST

You read what you want into what you see. The Democrats have been in charge of every **** dollar this country has spent in the last 2.5 years. Are you that **** stupid to think that Bush can spend one **** dime without Congressional approval??? If you are, then you need to read about which you spek because you have no FUC*ING clue. Get a **** life man and stop trying to make USA like Canada, irrelevant in today's global society.


Your stupid *** replies just put youin my ignore list as I have no desire to read any more of you dumb as* shi* Posts

Every time you post, you show just how God dam*ed stupid you really are about American politics

[-Z-]

you are a socialist, America DOES NOT WANT TO BE SOCIALIST

You read what you want into what you see. The Democrats have been in charge of every **** dollar this country has spent in the last 2.5 years. Are you that **** stupid to think that Bush can spend one **** dime without Congressional approval??? If you are, then you need to read about which you spek because you have no FUC*ING clue. Get a **** life man and stop trying to make USA like Canada, irrelevant in today's global society.


Your stupid *** replies just put youin my ignore list as I have no desire to read any more of you dumb as* shi* Posts

Every time you post, you show just how God dam*ed stupid you really are about American politics

lmao, someone cant take a joke.


andnif america doesnt want to be socialist, why medicare,

why are the taxpayers paying 200B dollars to bail out fanny may and freddie mac?


Z

[-Z-]

seems I hit onto something that is real, and upsetting.[

Z

[SmarT]

palin also wants to inject schools with chirstian religion again, she actuals thinks drilling alaska will do something.

A. we wont see the results for 5+yaers
B. it wont really make any difference in our market except to make big oil richers. lets look at supply and demand

the price of an item is where teh demand and supply curve intersect, so when supply increase but demand doesnt the price will fall.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...oil-production

here is some oil production numbers per day.

now as americans, we pron wont drive less if we drill alaska, which would also lower price (driving less) since less consumption=more supply because of a decrease in demand; but since prices might drop some for a couple weeks or months, we would drive more. so consumption would raise, which means, the demand curve would shift causing the price to go back up. not really that future realistic idea. also as u can see on that page, saudi and russia are teh only countries that produce more then us, only by 2 mill bbd/day. so in reality, they have more effect on our gas prices then anyone else.

now palin also believes she is gods tool to use. that everything she does is gods work. now you can believe what you want, but kept them out of your public platform, our forefathers put separation of church and state for a reason.

now what is the republican platform?

heath care- personal responsibility, if you cant afford heath care because you don't have enough money or wouldn't get coverage, you are **** out of luck. btw under John McCain's plan, he wouldn't get coverage if he wasn't in the senate, which is free heath care paid for by us tax payers

war- all war is good, even the unjustified war in Iraq. for those that don't remember and Sadam had no WMD, he had no ties to Al Qaeda. bush knew he had unreliable intelligence, he know that Sadam had no ties with Bin Ladin and such. oh for those that dont know, Iran wanted to help us FIGHT Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda, they hate them worse then they dont like us.

economy- nothing needs to happen since its all good

immigration- lock em up and send em back, tear families apart and throw the american melting pot away

environment- rape, pillage and burn.

education- they would rather have private then public education

military- they are trying to privatize it

foreign policy- bomb bomb bomb anyone that doesnt agree with us

oh yah don't give me that sadam was a bag guy and thats why we took him out, then why are we not doing anything for darfur or w,e that country is or in sudan or burma,

and btw, the dems want out of iraq, but not Afghanistan, they want to get Bin Ladan and believe if we have one front war, it is more lucky since we could send more troops to Afghanistan and put more leverage on Pakistan.

[Dogma]

I realize that this is only one issue, But all you who think that the Democratic party is the new savior, read this.



Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some
> older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check
> out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to
> your kids. They need a little history lesson on what's
> what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or
> Republican. Facts are Facts!!!
>
> Our Social Security
>
> Franklin Roosevelt , a Democrat, introduced the Social
> Security (FICA) Program.
> He promised:
>
> 1.) That participation in the program would be completely
> voluntary,
>
> 2.) That the participan ts would only have to pay 1% of
> the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the program,
>
> 3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the
> program would be deductible from their income for tax
> purposes each year,
>
> 4.) That the money the participants put into the
> independent 'trust fund' rather than into the
> general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to
> fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other
> government program, and,
>
> 5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never
> be taxed as income.
>
>
> Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now
> receiving a Social Security check every month --
> And then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the
> money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
> away' -- you may be interested in the following:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
> Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
> General fund so that Congress could spend it?
>
> A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically Controlled
> House and Senate.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
> Deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
>
> A: The Democratic Party.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security
> annuities?
>
> A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
> 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
> Senate, while he was Vice President of theUS .
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
>
>
> Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity
> payments to immigrants?
>
>
> AND MY FAVORITE:
> That's right! Jimmy Carter and theDemocratic Party.
> Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to
> receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party
> gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a
> dime into it!
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the
> Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans
> want to take your Social Security away!
>
> And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe
> it!
>
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness
> will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not,
> some Democrats are awfully Sure of what isn't so.
>
>
> Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.
>
> AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY
> SERVING ONE TERM!!!
>
> The sun is in charge of Global Warming, regardless of
> what Al Gore tells us.