Originally Posted by
Rassputtin
Taken when? In 1939 after they signed a pact with hitler and the germans? Or Sept 17th 1939 when they invaded poland? Or do you mean in Nov when the soviets invaded Finland or 40 when they occupied the baltics, lithuiania, latvia and estonia?
Basically I guess what I mean is are you refering to the countries they were conquering while being in a pact and warmongering along side hitler, or do you mean the bit of help they were once Hitler broke the pact and attacked the soviets.....
Because if your refering to the countries they conquered while in bed with hitler........ then I don't understand the question. What about them? Should I be impressed they invaded poland, finland, lithuiania, latvia and estonia. That would be like the USA invading Guatamala, belize, el salvador etc etc. Not a very impressive feat.
If your referring to the bit of help in pushing the germans back..... i'm still not impressed. They weren't doing anything but moving backwards until the americans arrived, then they managed to stall the germans at stalingrad, and then slowly begin to repel them back. Like it or not without the usa stepping up, the whole of europe falls to the axis.
Most people don't know all that about Nam, they just know americans are jerks for fighting there. The result should not be all that is important. Because if I attempt to paint a beautifil painting to sell so I can donate the money so a child can afford an operation to cure an illness so he can live, but its not that great of a painting and doesnt raise enough money and the kid dies.
Does it only matter that I didnt raise enough money for the kid. Should everyone walk around calling me a jerk, saying I shouldn't have put my nose into the poor kids business anyway, what a Jerk I am............?
Wait for 5 years, sure they can wait. By then, the iraqi's will be just as well trained, and the infrastructure would be sound, and the economy would be thriving and I don't think the Jihadists would 1. be as inclined, as their country is doing great an americans are GONE. 2. the non jihadists would be better prepared and willing to deal with thier sorry asses.
The united states declared war in april of 1917. In January of 1917 Reich Foreign Secretary Zimmermann's telegram to Mexico urging her entry into war against the United States is discovered and translated by the British, and the germans resume unrestricted U-boat warfare against american ships in January and february. How and why do you see continued warfare as a sign that a negotiated peace would have been hammered out?
Secondly the notion that hitlers coming to power is the fault of the americans is ridiculous. Alot took place that brought hitler to power of which the americans had nothing to do with. Thats just reaching.........
Thats like saying most of the wars fought is the fault of the jews because had their religion not indicated a messiah, and Jesus Christ not have been dubbed the messiah and crucified, and christianity born, then none of the holy wars or crusades and what not would have taken place...... just a real stretch is all that is.
only if your gullable and niave
Whether Donald gave him good information or not its still not his fault.
Another widespread misconception. The president did this , or did that, or vote for this candidate he's gonna do this for us.
In truth, a president does very little. Matter of fact, most of the crap politicians say they are gonna do, they do not have the authority to do. Thats the whole point of our democracy and political system. It takes a majority agreement to get things done.
George Bush didn't declare war, the american congress declared war. George bush didnt spend 10 billion a month in iraq, the american congress did. George bush didnt raise taxes, the american congress did.
Never fails to amaze me.