Heh...

[pron]

i said that ctu/abt were right in hitting lor since lor used "friends" to suicide on them and everyone knew it. ctu was just defending themselves and they got abt to help since lor outnumbered them pretty badly. no one knew lor would just roll over and die so easily.

Then CTU should have gone for the suicider. There wasn't any talk of a retal--so this point is moot. CTU and ABT just didn't want to get FS'ed, and they decided to hit first. Don't hide behind a reason like "one of your friends outside of the nation suicided us, so we're gonna kill the nation".

i don't have a problem with playing outside the tag and joining up, don't really like it since it is kinda cheap shows that you don't think you can win straight up, but it is within the rules and doesn't over negatively affect the outcome. however i still think you lose that right to say you are continuing the war once the nations at war have dec'ed peace and are no longer at war. if you are going to be an extension of lor then you should be held by lor peace agreements right? if not then you are not a part of lor but also can't claim that you are hitting these countries b/c of the war with lor?

The only peace agreement was that LOR would not declare war on CTU or ABT. Cem's nation wasn't LOR. He may have been fighting on behalf of LOR, or may have jumped in later, but wasn't in LOR when he struck. That's like saying ABT is part of CTU cause they hit together.

what is his reason for not jumping into lor during the war?

We didn't call in any of our stockers because we lost 10+ in the FS, and only had 5 states in our nation. Also, the outside people weren't war ready so it would have been a day or two--hence why peace was declared as the war was over .