lor vs NS

[Crimson Shadow]

he didn't get the sanctions/war he wanted so he quit. he couldn't take the fact that he got used and then beat by anton...hence the suicide.

Actually it was runbch that suicided, not Forkys. I'll give him credit for that.

Forkys just quit.

[Raul]

Even though I'm in NS...thats gotta suck for LoR. Had andy down to 29 land and couldn't finish the job

Andy is on in msn, we knew he was online, objective was not killing, althou it would have been nice
iam surprised we went so close to 29 land xD

[Crimson Shadow]

sucks for NS cuz we should have FSed lor last week.

Hindsight is 20/20

[Fangz]

would have been better to stonewall sooner. lor is not ever gonna have a problem coming up with kill turns. they will have a problem coming up with breaker turns.

[SoB]

fact is, war is too easy...doesn't matter whether you are 200mill inf-2mill ships or 80mill inf 1mill jets 20mill ships or 80mill inf 10mill jets and 5mill shps etc...i was talking to one of my nation members and we were discussing how back in WoW warring was much harder since people were n00bier and they were longer and it was tougher to kill states. but now, this game consists mainly of people whove played for ages, most of whom were leaders/had high ranks in their nation at one point or another and are 'vets'...warring is a well polished drilled routine: 19AAs, land drop till you grab 200, AR till theyre dead. its not tough anymore and doesn't take much time or skill and anyone can do it. we need to make it tougher to kill imo....would also mean that people have a higher chance of survival if they manage to stonewall. not much your state can do after being AAed and land dropped and ARed half way to death except becoming a land dropper yourself.

I think we should take a time out and seriously think about this suggestion.
Makes perfect sense as we dont have nations with a high count of members and nowdays literally a nation can be completely killed off on the FS due to low member count.
I seriously think this could be the solution to Nation Wars problem with players getting disheartened by warring nations randomly attacking. If the FS didn't completely cripple the opponent and the opponent had a fighting chance.

Take this Lor FS against NS as a prime example, a lot of us in NS in the top 10 blissfully unaware of a threat, netting this set, have been almost completely crippled with all the high netters (and in some respect the only powerful states in NS) looking for top 10 finishes all dead. NS really can't do anything about it now regardless.

Now if it was harder to kill a state and FS's were to hurt but not cripple nations there could actually be some fun in it for both parties, the aggressor and reciever. And not just the nation doing the FS while all the players in the recipient nation left feeling disheartened and angry for having their set ruined for no reason.

The one liner is Give the nation on the recieving end of the FS a fighting chance

[Fangz]

Hindsight is 20/20

i told andy to consider striking lor after they declared the 2nd time on PAIN.

[Dogma]

Andy is on in msn, we knew he was online, objective was not killing, althou it would have been nice
iam surprised we went so close to 29 land xD

Objective was not killing? What was your objective?? Wasting hundreds of turns to intimidate?

[Divine Intervention]

tbf, top NS states were stalked to hell. we had daily spy ops on all of the states (and each time they did jumps) including market intel with me working out how many turns you could use in one go with their available stock and jumping accordingly (which is why i wasn't afraid of #92 succesfully AAIng me when i first noticed him going 100% turns. worked out exactly how much $ he would have after sales and the max hed produce using those turns + money)...so if i saw that someone sold like 20bs worth to use 300 turns whilst in GDN i would have obviously jumped...their only chance would have been to sell after i went to sleep and jump before i woke up

[kanman]

@ Kanman - until you realize that the money that went on tech meant your NA would no longer protect you from jumping SOUL states which is when you start seeing your players lose 4-8k land as was the case when Lime and Jeff broke them..which would have happened much sooner had NS been waisting their cash on BM'ed tech. of course having 2-3 states being raped for 4-8k land and then raping them back all set is much than having big bad anton grab them for 1k every 36 hours

Depends when you sanction. A lot of nations drop tax mid round, I would just keep taxes up. Even if your tax is low, NS was in position to have a huge advantage on production to draw tech/na from compared to other nations.

For other states to jump in, they would have to do it at the beginning. Stocking states are not catching up to states that have been unhit for 3-4 days unless you just don't spend any time on your state. And if they got up there, it would be one or two soul states being grabbed by you and 5 NS. they won't be able to keep it up.

[Crimson Shadow]

Depends when you sanction. A lot of nations drop tax mid round, I would just keep taxes up. Even if your tax is low, NS was in position to have a huge advantage on production to draw tech/na from compared to other nations.

Noone wanted a sanction until after tax had been dropped, and even then it was only Forkys that was hellbent on having the sanction in place. After being told how much it was going to cost, Forkys lost most of the nations support for a sanction.


Anyways this topic is about the war, not NS choosing to sanction high or not.