Both of them still managed 200m+ NW, which is a better than what most non stockers could produce.
I'm not arguing that if there wouldn't have been suicides that they wouldn't have finished where they did. I'm just pointing out that stockers are doing pretty well and don't really need any extra help.
Either way, it isn't for us to argue what would have happened, we need to come up with ideas to make prems more valuable.