Diplomatic message to the USSR

[Soviet Russia]

USSR, Communism: Had a hundreds of years of ideological background, over-national, still exists in many forms such as in PRC

USA: A bunch on companies messing the world.

[Max Logan]

USSR, Communism: Had a hundreds of years of ideological background, over-national, still exists in many forms such as in PRC

USA: A bunch on companies messing the world.

Marxism only ddates back to 19th century 30ties...
Communism itself is only 20th century phenomena. The ideological basis you`re talking about is political science theory, I assume you don`t know, but you`re talking about Hobbs and 'The Leviathan', which in this context is a false, because it`s based on the contract theory and natural rights assumption, also Locke and Machiavelli wrote about it.

Socialism and Marxism, which lead to the idea or Communism is purely resulting of Industrial age. It has no ideological background. I`d suggest reading the Manifesto first, before you make such claims

[Max Logan]

And so that the working class doesn`t AA me or bomb me - the idea of classless society is nice and all, but it`s humanly impossible to do, at least, with 'humans' in it. As Marx and Engels never wrote about the society transition to communism, and Soviet Union showed how it`s NOT supposed to be done.

The idea is good, the method was wrong

[Mr President]

Obtain Spy ops? I think thats quite unrealistic. Who'd keep a list of the spy ops he did? Bwaaaarrr.

I think all that needs to be done to it is only show the last 24hrs or so. There is always some kind of paperwork for secret missions. So this op steals them :-) But having it show all the ones that were done might be too much. perhaps just the last 24hrs or so.. I belive that was suggested last set.

Leaders come and go but the difiance and courage of the proud people of USSR will stay forever

America is done with the negotiations. We have tried to prevent war but you are dead set on making it happen. Our hand has been forced. War is now imminent.


* America withdraws from the negotiation table. *

[Max Logan]

uh...war

[svend forkbeard]

America is done with the negotiations. We have tried to prevent war but you are dead set on making it happen. Our hand has been forced. War is now imminent.

* America withdraws from the negotiation table. *

And then we see the true face of capitalist peace, and their need cravings for the blood of the inocent

[svend forkbeard]

And so that the working class doesn`t AA me or bomb me - the idea of classless society is nice and all, but it`s humanly impossible to do, at least, with 'humans' in it. As Marx and Engels never wrote about the society transition to communism, and Soviet Union showed how it`s NOT supposed to be done.

The idea is good, the method was wrong

they did actually, amongs other places in the manifesto

"When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organized power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organize itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class."

poorly discribet and easy to attack yes i will give you that but they did... and as for the manifesto its from 1848... but before that there where Utopian socialism by amongst otherts Fourier and Owen. they worked with the ide of societies in which neither exploitation nor oppression were needed to maintain economic production.

just a little side notes

[svend forkbeard]

again...ok, history lesson:

1. The 'Victory quote' is said by Churchill, who was strongly against Soviet Union and had he not been replaced short before the war ended, D-Day would take place in Yugoslavia and USSR would never take Eastern Germany. And on top of that the USA president died.

i know it is From Churchill just rather like it. And lets not forget that a commen enamy can make good friends. As was the case of WWII

2. Social=/=Communism. Look it up, the difference is huge

Yes but there can not be Communism without socialism... the road to Communism goes true socialism

3. It was never about peasants. Peasants were fluffed over with common agriculture. but ok...

Well it was actullay in a pure form about peasant to, the USSR how ever to the point that only the city workers where strong enough to stand up against the supresser.... that being the dirence from other places like china that put much more weight on the peasents and fram work. back to basics

4. No enemy territory? I`m sorry, thats just...

really true?

5. USSR - 70 years, USA - 200+ and counting

So please, I warned you once. You`re, as Mr P said, ignorant, well he didn`t say exactly in those words. You should better read a real book, before typing out of your history books. Stop being an idiot, man up and be a leader...Jesus...

dinosaurs 160 million years, usa 200+ just because its be around for a long time does not make it perfect

Well let mr P said what he wants and you can talk for yourselfs.... ignorant, for having other belives, then you are ignorant? like the ignorant people that said the world might not be flat?.

And idiot really? thats uncalled for. have done nothing against you

[Max Logan]

they did actually, amongs other places in the manifesto

When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organized power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organize itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.

poorly discribet and easy to attack yes i will give you that but they did... and as for the manifesto its from 1848... but before that there where Utopian socialism by amongst otherts Fourier and Owen. they worked with the ide of societies in which neither exploitation nor oppression were needed to maintain economic production.

just a little side notes

you could atleast put the middle part in " " if you pasted it!

I did the year by heart, so you got me there. and Utopian Socialisms kick started only in 19th century, so, as I said, not that long...

[Max Logan]

dinosaurs 160 million years, usa 200+ just because its be around for a long time does not make it perfect

Well let mr P said what he wants and you can talk for yourselfs.... ignorant, for having other belives, then you are ignorant? like the ignorant people that said the world might not be flat?.

And idiot really? thats uncalled for. have done nothing against you

what have dinosaurs to do with political society???

And USA is not perfect, Democracy is not perfect. But as Roosevelt said, it`s the best form of government so far