Oslo and Utøya

**DBozMen** · 07-22-2011, 13:38

At this moment:

7 dead and 2 badly wounded in Oslo. (update: 11 badly wounded, 100+ people wounded by glass etc.)

Utøya has unconfirmed deaths

update: possibility that both acts are linked

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they now say there might be 20-25 kids shot death on the island Utøya

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Not sure if you can call this beter, but it seems the current count is 17 and it seems to be domestic.

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**DBozMen** · 07-23-2011, 05:38

80+ on that small island... this is just insane!

**CommunistCapitalism** · 07-23-2011, 07:16

What a shame. Although the guy who did it appears to be domestic, NYT reports that the "Helpers of the Global Jihad" are claiming responsibility for the attack.

**Soviet Russia** · 07-25-2011, 13:21

Originally Posted by CommunistCapitalism

What a shame. Although the guy who did it appears to be domestic, NYT reports that the "Helpers of the Global Jihad" are claiming responsibility for the attack.

ya, blame the Muslims

**Will** · 07-25-2011, 16:12

Well, judging by the guy's beliefs, from a certain point of view the muslims are to blame.

No Muslims in Europe = No reason for this guy to kick off.

**BeeNo** · 07-25-2011, 19:34

Originally Posted by Will

Well, judging by the guy's beliefs, from a certain point of view the muslims are to blame.

No Muslims in Europe = No reason for this guy to kick off.

is this a serious comment?

**Soviet Russia** · 07-26-2011, 03:23

Originally Posted by Will

Well, judging by the guy's beliefs, from a certain point of view the muslims are to blame.

No Muslims in Europe = No reason for this guy to kick off.

Can we say no Americans in the world, no reason for 9/11? What kind of logic is that

**Will** · 07-26-2011, 15:28

Originally Posted by BeeNo

is this a serious comment?

Somewhat tongue in cheek, but I would bet money that he will likely be proved correct within the next fifty years. His methods however have done no favours for the right in Europe.

**Will** · 07-26-2011, 15:33

Originally Posted by Soviet Russia

Can we say no Americans in the world, no reason for 9/11? What kind of logic is that

Stalin's Logic.

"No Man, no problem"

**Will** · 07-26-2011, 15:53

As for my own view, this guy is the European equivalent of a Tea Partier with a sociopathic streak. By all accounts he isn't insane, despite what his lawyer says. He planned everything to the last detail.

Of course, the governments of Europe are using this as an excuse to crack down even more on people's freedoms.

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